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Judas Priest Guitarist K.K. Downing Retires From The Band

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British heavy metal icons Judas Priest have announced that KK Downing, one of the founding members of the band, has decided to retire from the group and as a result, will not be taking part in the group's forthcoming Epitath tour. A press release from the band reads as follows:

"It is with regret that Judas Priest announce that K.K. Downing has formally retired from the band and will therefore not be joining them on their forthcoming Epitaph Tour. The band respect his decision and naturally all wish him well.

"Having thought long and hard about how to proceed, Rob, Glenn, Ian and Scott uninimously agreed that they should go ahead with the tour and not let the fans down around the world.

"Fate also stepped in and delivered the perfect replacement - 31 year old British guitarist Richie Faulkner - he has blended into the band perfectly and is a great talent who is going to set the stage on fire!

"The Epitath tour will include songs from every Judas Priest album and also tracks they have never performed on stage, plus all the old favourites!

"With a new album due to be released next year, the Metal Gods are preparing to tour the planet once more - Heavy metal at it's best with lasers, lights, bikes and hellfire! It's a show not to be missed!"

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1. The_Avant_Garde writes:

So sudden and unexpected!

I actually had to look at my calendar a few times to make sure it wasn't April Fools day. Last album, last tour - something big must have went down for someone as integral as he was to the band to just leave.

# Apr 20, 2011 @ 6:19 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. Diamond Oz writes:

The thought of Priest without Downing is really weird. Gonna be strange seeing them at Graspop knowing they've not got one of their key ingredients of brilliance.

# Apr 20, 2011 @ 6:51 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. Runciter writes:

you have to be f***in kidding.
I hope this is just another misunderstanding, like when many of you assumed that there are not gonna be another album, cause without him, well, I dont want another Priest album...

# Apr 20, 2011 @ 8:19 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. WOLF7 writes:

Well this one came out of nowhere!

I wonder what made KK quit now when there are live shows scheduled? Very odd.

# Apr 20, 2011 @ 8:28 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. brandedcfh420 writes:

enjoy your time of peace and quiet sir. thank you for all the excellent riffs and songs that you helped create through the decades.
\,,/(**)\,,/

# Apr 20, 2011 @ 8:57 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. Stevereno writes:

I did the same as Avant Garde, I checked the date too! Too bad to see KK step away, I hope there isn't a serious underlying factor in his life that caused this.
Thank you KK, you are a king to Priest fans.

# Apr 20, 2011 @ 9:51 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. -Metal_Rapture- writes:

That sucks, I hope nothing bad happened in his personal life. Some people deserve to retire and have a break though and I'm sure he probably constitutes as one.

# Apr 20, 2011 @ 9:56 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. citrus_tea writes:

Amazing how "fate stepped in" and provided a fully prepped replacement. Sounds to me like this must have been bubbling around for a while.

# Apr 20, 2011 @ 10:20 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. Rychemn writes:

Now I'm really glad I saw them in '09......this is truly shocking news......can't imagine Priest without K.K......and anyone else replacing him, IMO, is a let down to the fans......why couldn't he just do this last show and be done with it......is there more to the story....Hmmm????

# Apr 20, 2011 @ 10:34 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. R10 writes:

This isn't news I wanted to wake up and read! Holy sh**! One of my all time favorite bands ! Tipton @ Downing were the template for dual guitarists in the early 80s. Was hoping to see these metal gods for one more go around before they hung it up for good. No I'm really kicking myself for not seeing em do British Steel in its entirety a couple of years ago!

# Apr 20, 2011 @ 10:44 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. duncan hills writes:

hmm... halford's continuing his career after this... and you don't go and see priest on their last ever tour to see ian hill and scott travis, you go to see halford, downing and tipton... and i can see halford another time... so i just lost half my reason to go see them.

# Apr 20, 2011 @ 10:51 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. Blindgreed1 writes:

Glad I caught them one last time when I had the chance.

# Apr 20, 2011 @ 10:52 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. spiral_architect writes:

i wish this was an april fool's day joke. i'm not concerned about the live shows, because i am not going to be seeing them live. my big concern is whether kk downing will be playing on the new studio album. if he's not it just won't be the same at all for me. i'd hate to think nostradamus was their true epitaph.

# Apr 20, 2011 @ 11:19 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. oz yanez writes:

no KK no priest that was the best part of priest!!!!!!

# Apr 20, 2011 @ 1:09 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. Snake Boy writes:

No! This can't be true. Replacing KK in Priest is like replacing Rudolf Schenker in Scorpions or Eric Peterson in Testament.

# Apr 20, 2011 @ 3:13 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. XxZxMETALHEADxZxX writes:

:'( NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

# Apr 20, 2011 @ 3:55 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. Cynic writes:

Is it just me who's assuming he'll still be writing on the album, just not playing the huge tour?

# Apr 20, 2011 @ 5:07 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. metallian666 writes:

K.K. IS METAL GOD.HE IS JUDAS PRIEST LIKE HALFORD AND TIPTON. HOLY TRINITY OF HEAVY METAL!
I CANNOT TAKE HIS DECISION.THIS IS HEARTBREAKING!

# Apr 20, 2011 @ 5:29 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. RAC writes:

For me the twin axe attack of Glenn and KK is what made Priest, it was their signature! Without any one of the big three (Rob, Glenn, KK) there is no Priest!

# Apr 20, 2011 @ 5:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. Trendkill91 writes:

This sucks! I'm not going to be able to see them in full! goddamn it!

# Apr 20, 2011 @ 6:08 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. MetalMattUK writes:

Going to see them play live in July on there final tour yes this is bad but im still going to see them live

# Apr 20, 2011 @ 6:23 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. Nunya writes:

he couldn't have waited until the end of their last tour?

# Apr 20, 2011 @ 7:06 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. silvermountains writes:

A true sad day indeed, as he leaves Judas Priest. The whole band done basicly as they wrap up there final tour. Seriously a sad day for metal, and a sad day for music lovers. Enjoy your life KK you deserve nothing but the best. \m/

# Apr 20, 2011 @ 8:14 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. That_Metal_Dude writes:

its really hard to believe this knowing how much of a Big part this guy plays in the whole Legacy of a band like Judas Priest.... sad news to hear today. I wish him nothing but the best... \m/

# Apr 20, 2011 @ 8:55 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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25. hellrat writes:

CRAP!!! Just fvckin CRAP!!!

don't make no sense without knowing reasoning behind, but in any case, its fvckin CRAP!!!

NP---Bloodstone---SFV

# Apr 20, 2011 @ 9:12 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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26. Necrovomit writes:

well atleast he got to retire. everybody else has been droppin over dead lately

# Apr 20, 2011 @ 11:06 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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27. HE HE HE HE writes:

ONE DUDE WHO TRULY DESERVES TO BE IN HALL OF FAME.....WAS NEVER A HUGE FAN OF JUDAS BUT RESPECT THEM AS A BIG INFLUENCE ON ALL MY FAV BANDS.

THIS JUST IN METS SUCK HA HA HA HA HA

# Apr 20, 2011 @ 11:17 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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28. Vinny the Metalhead writes:

To quote Rob Lowe in Tommy Boy:

"Not good.

Now Watching: Tommy Boy (with Chris Farley and David Spade)

# Apr 20, 2011 @ 11:53 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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29. hellrat writes:

oh god Vin, I fvcking LOVE that flick!!

of so many excellent parts, my favorite is when Paul poppes that kid makin faces at im through the bus window :)

I been watchin T-Boy at least 2-3 times a year since that fvcker came out!

NP---Chattahoochee---Alan Jackson

# Apr 21, 2011 @ 1:53 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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30. BoltThrower writes:

I've listened to Priest for years now as more of a casual fan, but how much did Downing contribute to Priest as compared to Halford and Tipton?

# Apr 21, 2011 @ 2:37 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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31. WOLF7 writes:

Citrus_tea #8 and Nunya #22 both have very valid points.

What, he just walked away from the band he's spent some 40 years with, just like that?

Doesn't add up.

# Apr 21, 2011 @ 4:55 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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32. true metal fan writes:

fking finally! about time he realised the pension would support him.. he was definetely on the way out, if he was ever truly in. one of the most overrated bands and guitarists. This is a fine example of how disloyal these 'metal' band members are. who cares.

and why would anyone see them when the almighty AVENGED SEVENFOLD are headlining summer slaughter? true metal at its exceeding brilliance, which priest failed to create. and im pretty sure syn gates ( <;3 ) hasnt just turned his back on this band like this old-timer. true metal is loyal. this guy was not. work it out. judas priest sucked, suck, and will continue to suck.

# Apr 21, 2011 @ 5:14 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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33. jp patches writes:

Im sure he has a good reason - i hope its nothing serious and wish him the best.

# Apr 21, 2011 @ 5:22 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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34. dlutkin writes:

f*** you True metal fan Avenged sevenfold couldnt carry Judas priests jocks! Black Sabbath and Priest invented heavy metal you f***ing retard!

# Apr 21, 2011 @ 5:42 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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35. true metal fan writes:

pretty sure itd be priest wearing the a7x jocks ya knob

# Apr 21, 2011 @ 6:48 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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36. dlutkin writes:

there wouldnt be an avenged sevenfold d***head if Judas Priest hadnt invented Heavy Metal. Why dont you ask A7x if they agree with your ignorant statements. Your not old enough to know what the f*** your talking about. You havent heard enough of this kind of music to have an educated opinion. So shut your mouth!

# Apr 21, 2011 @ 7:06 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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37. Piratellar writes:

The f*** you on about TrueMetal?!

Argh this news sucks more than a pornstar :( :( The tour this year will not be the same without him, its Priest man! Keep it metal KK \m/

# Apr 21, 2011 @ 8:06 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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38. RAC writes:

true metal fan: A7x just plain sucks and in the talent dept they couldn't even carry Priests audio wires! Priest will always be known as one of the most influential metal band while A7x in the future will be known as just another band,

# Apr 21, 2011 @ 8:27 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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39. brandedcfh420 writes:

TMF doesnt know TRUE METAL!!!!!!! anybody claiming gayvenged lesbianfold is a great band is trully delusional!!!!!!

# Apr 21, 2011 @ 9:03 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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40. PANDA writes:

Damn.. well that blows /:

# Apr 21, 2011 @ 11:08 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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41. james hetfield writes:

maybe because ole robbie tried to stick it in em

# Apr 21, 2011 @ 11:22 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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42. Mario writes:

KK is quite old now and i think with the years he was just geting more tired and now is his time to quit with metal and music at all.Its awful that such a musician is quiting.Judas will never be the same, never absolutely never.Its such an awful thing.Ill miss KK so much

# Apr 21, 2011 @ 11:29 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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43. ZMA writes:

TMF......obvious troll is fvckin' obvious holy sh!t....... If that dude honestly thinks Judas Priest sucks and KK Downing wasn't loyal for ya know......30 someodd years then I might as well put a baby in a meatgrinder cause it doesn't get more stupid then that.

Anyway, this is almost more upsetting then hearing their breakup news. Like others, I'm also happy I saw 'em back in 09. That show was amazing. I always thought Downing was such a great guitarist. If anyone has the anniversary edition of British Steel with the live dvd on it, he rips up the guitar on Victim of Changes. I teared up watch that epic solo he did.

This is my favorite band of all time and it's really upsetting being around to witness their final world tour. I'm happy to say I was alive at this time to see them put out some amazing music though.

# Apr 21, 2011 @ 1:20 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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44. R10 writes:

Hey ZMA;thought you'd eventually weigh in on this topic. Your lucky you saw em on that B Steel Ann. Tour! I shoulda said f*** it and called in sick! It was a Monday show here. I bought that 30th Ann. B. Steel just for the DVD actually. Seen the mighty Priest 6 times;including with Ripper;so ill just have to see em with out Downing next time. Sucks but oh well.

# Apr 21, 2011 @ 2:07 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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45. ZMA writes:

Yea R10 this is definitely big news for me. Glad to see you finally became a member. You're lucky though man, I've only seen them twice. I'm still absolutely seeing them no matter what, I can't miss this opportunity. How were they when Ripper was fronting?

# Apr 21, 2011 @ 2:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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46. R10 writes:

Oh it was awesome ZMA to see the band that turned me on to metal in a mid sized club!The Avalon in Boston cap 1600! Met and chatted with Rip;sighned my CD! Took some great pics of my idols Tipton@Downing before security warned me about flash pictures. These guys rank right up there as my all time favorites dude! Can not miss em next time! Yea I said f*** it @ joined up. I've been throwing my opinions out there too long as a non member I guess!

# Apr 21, 2011 @ 2:33 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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47. ZMA writes:

Good sh!t R10. That must've been a great show. I agree with you about them being favorites. They seem like really nice guys, all of them. I met Ripper multiple times at NAMM and I know he's a nice guy, we chatted about Priest, and his Beyond Fear stuff, and it was just all awesome.
I really hope this new guitarist they've got can deliver. If they like him though he must be good.
Yea bro, that's how I thought about it when I became a member. Now we're all like some fvcked up cyber family haha.

# Apr 21, 2011 @ 2:40 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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48. true metal fan writes:

@36 You dont know me well enough to have an educated opinion. So shut your mouth!

and no, i stand firm and restate that judas priest suck d***. youd think after thirty odd years he would be loyal enough to stay in hia band, but he wasnt, reflectingsigns that he never truly respected his own band enough to see it through till the end. thats not me talking, its his actions.

and as for the fa**ot fat-sh** trolls saying the pinnacle and pioneers of modern rock/metal sucks, well all i can say is its time to come out of your cavefrom the stone age of music and be swept away by the current metal agethat bands such as sevenfold are leading. true metal is only beginning to be discovered, and i wholeheartedly embrace the dawn of true metal as it has been evolving over the last ten years or so.

# Apr 22, 2011 @ 12:26 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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49. -Metal_Rapture- writes:

^^^
Epic Troll Post!!!!!!

# Apr 22, 2011 @ 12:41 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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50. true metal fan writes:

^^^ epic di<;khead who cant find a counter-argument

# Apr 22, 2011 @ 12:49 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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51. Mavei writes:

Who the f*** are avenged sevenfold? Some nu rock band? Wtf is this?

Judas Priest invented heavy metal. Period. Their albums are timeless and KK/GT never fell off after years of reinventing how true metal should sound.

# Apr 22, 2011 @ 1:13 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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52. hellrat writes:

"Come on y'all grab yer bamboo poles, we're headed on down to the fishin' hole...gonna catch our supper on nothin' more than Chicken Scratch & Honey

don't need no lures, don't need no flies, don't need no fancy baits on ice...just good cold beer and warm sunshine, and some Chicken Scratch & Honey

Chicken Scratch & Honey darlin', Chicken Scratch & Honey...don't worry Darlin' and don't think twice, 'bout Chicken Scratch & Honey..."

hey! my new tune here is fvckin HEAVY eh????

y'all fvcks take the Intertardz WAY too fvckin seriously :)

# Apr 22, 2011 @ 1:30 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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53. brandedcfh420 writes:

TMF is just another scene kid who thinks that anybody over the age of 30 is ancient in the music business. typical faceless internet troll mentality to talk smack and actually think you are relevant in the world today!!!

# Apr 22, 2011 @ 10:08 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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54. true metal fan writes:

yo retard, looking at your dp i would guess you wish you could be faceless..

anywhom, the internet is not used to anomynously post smack talking sh**. maybe its a median through which one can express their opinions to a wider community? your ignorance is further demonstrated in your respect for this man leavinghis band after thirty years. you believe hes been loyal. truth is, he couldnt remain loyal to his very own band he founded, unlike music of todays society, contrasting the likesof avenged sevenfold, metal masters.

also, age discrimination is a fail of an argument and yet again portrays your stupidity. you say im faceless and anonymous then imagine that you know my age demographic? well you contradict yourself. maybe forumming isnt your kinda thing. but thats ok, some of us just fail at things.

oh, and im 35 by the way. the differnece between us is that ive walked out of the cave and interacted with society in the last ten years.

# Apr 22, 2011 @ 11:19 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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55. Rychemn writes:

Ok, TMF....I'll give it a shot......you say "Priest" is an overrated band.....in all my 30 years of listening to JP....they never ever had much air play, unlike ax7, and are now only getting on the radio, and I've listen to radio stations all over america since the 70's....not Sirus satelitte stuff......secondly, bands like Priest and Sabbath ARE the pioneers of metal as we know it...even Iron Maiden (formed in '76).....these guys were doing things in there day that know one else ever heard of.....Metal music has been evolving for way more than the last ten years son......that is why we have a web-site like this one...to learn more and more about the music we love so dearly!!!!!


N.P.......Tyrant.......Judas Priest.

# Apr 22, 2011 @ 11:32 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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56. brandedcfh420 writes:

and so have we. we just choose to not listen to boring poser bands like a7x or other scene bands!! we choose to listen to metal that has balls and not vaginas!!! and being 35 doesnt make you a music expert, especially saying that a7x is a great band!! all it does is make us laugh at you!

you say u r a "true metal fan", list out your fave bands so we can see just what "metal" you say is "real metal"!!!!

# Apr 22, 2011 @ 11:46 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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57. WOLF7 writes:

I don't even wanna get into the Priest vs A7x thing. Thanks to the easter holidays we got plenty of trolls / kids typing all kinds of bullsh**.

On the topic, there definitely must be something wrong. It's really difficult to understand why K.K. would walk out with shows booked when Judas Priest have announced their retirement anyway. Seems very odd. Something's off here.

# Apr 22, 2011 @ 12:00 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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58. R10 writes:

Does seem odd giving that they announce a replacement at the same time as his leaving the band. Could be health. I mean he's gotta be 60 to 62. Will be strange seeing them without KK but it was also strange seeing them without Halford in 98. Hey Rychemm how was Maiden in Florida? Got an e mail the other day announcing 3 New England dates for Queensryches 30th anniversary tour in August. Stoked! Won't miss the mighty Queensryche this time!

# Apr 22, 2011 @ 12:14 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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59. Rychemn writes:

Maiden was great, as usual.....didn't care for the venue (St. Pete's time forum)....their stage set up was smaller than last summers....and the sound levels, at times were off...like the band being louder than Bruce's singing.....I found out afterwards....people who saw the Ft. Lauderdale show too...like it a little better......but overall......Awsome!!!!!.....as for Queensryche.....working on seeing them here in D.C.....with my older brother.....yeah, R10....you won't be disappointed.

# Apr 22, 2011 @ 12:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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60. Blindgreed1 writes:

Well now... How fvcking precious is this? A scene kid trying to compare apples and oranges. Let's just sum this up as quickly as possible so that nobody gets hurt okay? Judas fvcking Priest = Metal Godz. A7X = trendy hard rock band. Nuff said... NEXT!!!

# Apr 22, 2011 @ 12:39 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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61. brandedcfh420 writes:

.........................waiting for rebuttal......................

# Apr 22, 2011 @ 3:46 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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62. ZMA writes:

Alright.....I'm gonna put my say into this because this is fvckin' ridiculous. I like to think I'm pretty well versed in all kinds of music, and I firmly believe that while TMF is attempting to either troll, or actually make a point, dude doesn't know what the fvck he's talkin' about.
First off, there is no TRUE METAL....... Saying that is retarded. I don't know why everyone keeps saying that.
Priest is metal, so is Avenged Sevenfold, so is Cannibal Corpse, so is Beneath The Sky, and The Human Abstract and Slipknot etc. It can keep going. All those bands are metal. I see no true metal band in that list.....I just see a bunch of metal bands with different sub-genres. It's all real, and it's all true. You can be a metal band and just suck massive d!ck, but you're still metal so what's the fvckin' problem.

Alright I'm gonna say this right now, Avenged Sevenfold is a great fvckin' band. If they were bad their newest video wouldn't have 14 million views....... They're a California modern metal band. It's like a newer version of Metallica in a way considering they have influences from them. I don't really like M Shadows vocals but the band is amazing. The Rev was a phenomenal drummer and he was influenced by that machine Mike Portnoy who was great on their new album, you can't beat that ya know? And Synyster Gates knows his way around a 6 string.
I don't know why everyone is talkin' about scene sh!t bein' related to A7X. You wanna talk scene listen to Black Veil Brides that's as scene as it gets.

Ok enough of that, Anyway if KK Downing is the founder of the band, then he can choose to leave whenever the hell he wants.
He's 59 R10 so yes health might have something to do with it. Could be family problems. Or maybe he just honestly doesn't wanna do it anymore. And after more then 30 years of playing with Priest I can understand that.
But the whole loyalty thing is absolute nonsense. He was in the band he started for almost 40 YEARS!!!! If that's not loyalty I might as well go shoot up a walmart right now because the world has gone to sh!t.

To close this, I love all types of metal. Judas Priest is without any hesitation my all time favorite band and I'll always stick by them no matter what going on with the band. I'm still lookin' forward to the world tour and I'm still lookin' foward to the next album. Hail fvckin' Priest............

# Apr 22, 2011 @ 6:20 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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63. ZMA writes:

Damn......long comment is long. That's not getting read lol.

# Apr 22, 2011 @ 6:21 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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64. brandedcfh420 writes:

"Priest is metal, so is Avenged Sevenfold"

matter of opinion.........

"I don't know why everyone is talkin' about scene sh!t bein' related to A7X"

becasue the scene kids are claiming they are the greatest.....typical trendy mainstream band that tries to be something they are not....METAL!!!!

# Apr 22, 2011 @ 7:28 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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65. zeplica writes:

well put zma. i too am a huge priest fan and have seen them perform their first tour in the usa and most of them since. being 56 years old i will miss kk but will enjoy the last tour. it has to be either medical or personal but we will find out soon enough. lets just hope he gets to ENJOY his retirement.

# Apr 22, 2011 @ 7:32 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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66. R10 writes:

Quite a long winded rant ZMA. But I did read it all. You make some decent points about metals so many sub genres. I Tend to like a little from each of them. Not sure which one A7X falls under. I have noticed that most people who love A7X who comment on this site tend to make bogus and false statements of their superiority;and tend to be defensive@hostile about it. Not many younger fans of metal will ever get Priest;they've had a 40 year career. But they are pioneers and that should be respected

# Apr 22, 2011 @ 8:04 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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67. ZMA writes:

brand It's not a matter of a opinion it's an absolute fact. They are a metal band.

I'm not tryin' to argue or nothin', but like, they started out as a metalcore band with heavier screaming and slowly changed to a more modern heavy metal style during their career. I mean he's even gone back to that sort of style of singing on their new release. But in certain ways they've always kinda stuck towards that metalcore style and over the years went more melodic. They've won multiple awards at the Revolver Golden Gods Award shows as well as headlining and they've played mainstage Ozzfest alongside Disturbed and Hatebreed.

I've never really put a connection between scene kids and AX7. But that's only because I don't give a sh!t about scene kids. But I guess they're giving them a bad rep because of it.
Anyway I think those are some pretty hard facts that proves that they are definitely a metal band. Like I said I'm not trying to make this into a big argument this is just all the stuff I've seen about this band over the years and they've always been connected to the metal scene whenever I've seen them. I guess it's honestly whatever though. I still like 'em heh heh.

zeplica I wish I could've seen Priests first US tour. That must've been amazing. I totally hope he enjoys his retirement. I really think he deserves it. He's been performing for crowds for so long. This is definitely well deserved.

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68. ZMA writes:

Yea R10 that whole thing just irked the hell outta me I guess. I know AX7 fall under some category of metal like I just said but eh.
I like them, but I'm not like those d!cks who talk about AX7 like it's the greatest thing in the world. They're just a good band, that's it. I only get hostile when facts are messed up.....but that would be for anything. Or if someone talks sh!t about Priest heh heh.

I don't try and get into sh!t like this unless I have an actual fair amount of knowledge. It's just good that the regulars here including yourself R10 have a vast about of knowledge, so the discussions are really interesting.

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69. brandedcfh420 writes:

"They've won multiple awards at the Revolver Golden Gods Award shows as well as headlining and they've played mainstage Ozzfest alongside Disturbed and Hatebreed."

golden gods awards are pathetic overall....mainstage ozzfest doesnt mean anything except a band name to get the kiddies and their money in there. doesnt make them supergods!! as you stated, im not trying to argue either. just voicing different viewpoints other than yours.

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70. ZMA writes:

Yea but at least someone's trying to have a decent metal award show in the U.S. I think it's a pretty good. Could be way better though.
I don't really look at it that way. I've always thought Ozzfest was a great show. The lineups never seem to disappoint. But yea I don't think they're supergods at all.
Well everyone's entitled to their own viewpoints.
I guess it's really whatever.

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71. brandedcfh420 writes:

not saying ozzfest sucks, as i have been to 3. was just sayin that mainstage bands are just the big names to get most of the people there. stage 2 is always better action, but mainstage is good too!! it just needs to get back to its roots in terms of bands booked! it went from really respectable to laughable some years!!

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Oh yea I definitely agree. Second stage is always insane. I didn't really like last years lineup on main stage. Motley Crue were good, but they bore me after a while, and I'm not a huge Nonpoint fan. Devildriver was great, and Halford's band was tighter then ever best band on main stage for me. Ozzy gave a good performance also.

Out of all the best on second stage last year, Kataklysm absolutely killed it. At least on that show they did. Their set was great, and their mix through the P.A. was perfect. After Kataklysm, Kingdom Of Sorrow came out and fvcked the speakers up because they were turned up way too loud and it never got better after they left. It ruined Drowning Pool and Black Label Society because of that.

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Nah Z...7vaggiefolds ain't METAL bud, they're a commercial corporate puppetshow that makes poor 'use' of cliches that the general dumbed-down pop audience they are appealing to can swallow and feel ok about

It ain't real, or true, or genuine, or of any redeeming quality WHATSOEVER with regard to the context and philosophy of what is METAL music and culture

The 'musicians' themselves are overrated pop icons, the 'awards' they win are given out by a capitalist charade entity seeking to fabricate an illusion of relevence and authority by means of attempting to identify itself as METAL via association with the proven Fathers of the heavy metal genre, the legacies of whom are proven and undeniable in ALL of music (even if their current material is crap); and by association with contemporary, thinly guised pop acts that exploit the above mentioned 'metal cliches' within their music's general mass-appeal paradigm...it is an ingenious sales pitch that 'validates' both the Charade itself and the millions of idiots foolish enough to subscribe to it

Nothin but an insidious marketing strategy that makes a marionette out of any and all whom would give it ANY merit...in short, a JOKE, a mockery---and one that I and my METAL brethren certainly do not appreciate

Also, I don't really care what the others in the Vaggie7-UpPopfold are or aren't capable of, but I will tell you that their 'vocalist' ain't even a two-bit hack...nah, Shadow Boxer is of bottom-of-the-slag-heap ability, and REALLY and TRULY has absolutley NO business being behind a microphone...in ANY capacity. He's even got the medical records to prove it to those who can't hear it with their own damn ears

If you like the Lil' VaggieVengers, fine, god be with you...but please don't EVER come on here and try to sell me a shoddy cartload of this FALSE metal pop BULLSH!T

And its nothin personal, I'd say the same to ANYone that tried such tricksy business on here...but MUCH less diplomatically of course ;)

Now that there is a rant!

NP---Freewheel Burning---Defenders of the Faith

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74. true metal fan writes:

actually, shadows simply chose to stop screaming for a while to explore new territory with his band. misinformed rant? i think so. and im not trying to sell ya anything.

you jst reinforce my point, hellrat, that you guys need to step out of the cave once in a while. you think sevenfolds pop mate, then you need some fixing.

branded you say mainstage is for the big names, suggesting sevenfold are one of the big names, and i respect you for havin some manner of recognition towards that. those who just use their opinions to say the band is gay or the fans are gay just come off as idiots wit nothing constructive to say, contributing to the reason metal fans are thought of as thick.

back to my point, i cant see why this guitarist would shun the band that has shown him the highest level of loyalty all these years. and golden god awards are one of todays alternative rocks pinnacles and i congratulate sevenfold on their outstanding effort in getting four awards.

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75. R10 writes:

Good rant HR. Good song too ! I'm confused to how and why A7X got added into a thead on KK Downing and Priest. Ah well f*** it ill just stay in my cave.

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76. WOLF7 writes:

Same here, I have NO IDEA what the hell A7x has to do with Judas Priest. Like comparing Shelby GT500 to a Mitsubishi Lancer Evo; a classic powerhouse to the new kid in town.

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77. R10 writes:

Good point Wolf! Or the 67 RS SS Camaro 396 Big Block compared to a tricked out Honda Civic. Ones a classic the others a umm.... You get the point.

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78. NightWolf1476 writes:

Wish you all the best K.K. thanks for all the years of great metal your solos will be missed the blazing speed they had you showed them how it is done on the PAINKILLER album my favourite out of the Priest releases \,,/ horns \,,/ M.T.T.G.

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79. brandedcfh420 writes:

TMF: thats all theyll be....a name for peoples money! im not saying they are not skilled in their craft, but they r just another hard rock band trying to fit in where they dont belong: in the metal community, just my opinion!!

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80. hellrat writes:

I wasn't talkin to YOU, True Moronic Fvck, and you don't have a fvcking point...

Dipsh!t like you represent what is wrong with music today...fans of every new goodamned trend, and the overall homogenization of distinct signatures from any genre that can be opportunistically exploited into this melee of 'user friendly' meaningless POP garbage you advocate

Now get the fvck outta my METAL cave, ya bubblegum goddamned fool :)

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81. hellrat writes:

Big R, it was the Troo Moronic Fvck that slithered in with the substanceless 7Vaggiefolds fvcking drivel...and ha! just noticed his cute line about groundhog Shadow's 'screaming'....that jackoff fvck trashed his feeble vocal chords trying to make them do what they cannot, never could do, and NEVER fvcking will be able to

that fvcking pvssy would do better with the mic shoved down his goddamned throat....hear he's a pretty expert gargler anyway ;)

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82. Rychemn writes:

HOLY SH#T.......this thread is getting way off topic.....let's face it gentlemen.......we all will always have different views of what metal really is......but the main point is to always keep it alive!!!!!! \M/..\M/....FOREVER!!!!!

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83. brandedcfh420 writes:

well the troll is the one who fkd it up!!

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84. true metal fan writes:

pretty sure i clearly demonstratedbmy point, hellrat. i think your lack of understanding and awareness makes you te moron...

and on your earlier point branded, i think hellrats the faceless troll here. bet ya couldnt stand up to a scene kid let alone me ya dimwit. saying vagina and name calling doesnt mean youre big.. infact, it usually means the opposite. my eight yr old son often calls people names, and hesno biggun. but i guess we all start somewhere.

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85. sonictherapy writes:

KK Downing quit for personal reasons. Check out KK Downing's Steel Mill page....

http://www.kkdowning.net/home.html

# Apr 23, 2011 @ 1:34 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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86. R10 writes:

Figured I'd lumber back out of the cave and add just a few more things. TMF why would you come in and sh** all over this thread? Your right about one thing dude I am kind of a caveman. I don't listen to the radio;so I really wouldn't know what's in to be honest. I couldn't tell you who won Golden God awards. I love metal and take it pretty seriously and hate to see it sh** on. Do you even like J Priest? And S Therapy: I might be wrong but I heard it was a money issue;internal band issue. Sucks anyway.

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87. hellrat writes:

Ha! Troo-Boi, you should really wipe the dribble off yer chin before ya come sputtering in on here...you run yer frothing flapper, but ya don't say much besides

As far as the reference to the disappointing news that a Totally Mindless Fvck like you actually has progeny, well, your kid's unmanaged penchant for name calling or other behaviors you disapprove of is really not his problem, but rather a reflection of your piss poor parenting skill and influence...as for myself, yes I DO find it mildly entertaing to sling insults of whatever amusing capacity at blowhards like yourself that have clearly illustrated meriting ZERO respect

Now, unless you can come up with something meaningful to convey concerning the topic at hand, then run along now, Bubblegum Bop....yer snoodle-slurper butt-boi buddies have been left wanting of your attention and services :)

Thanks for update Sonic...

NP---Exciter---Stained Class

# Apr 23, 2011 @ 3:07 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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88. R10 writes:

Spot on assessment HR. The gentleman carelessly forgets about his above posts like #32 ;believe he brought name calling in to it. No he drags his 8 year old child into this ? Hmmm. Hey how bout that guy post #65 56 years old;seen Priest about every tour and respects the genre! Kudos to him! I'm washing my hands of this thread and knuckle dragging my way back to the cave!

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89. hellrat writes:

10-4 Brother, good call...but I will say that of all places that should have remained a Lil' Venger Free Zone, I would expect that THIS would be it

fvcking trundling POPcorn trollios always gotta stick their sh!t stained piglet snouts in where ever they can and start their goddamned squealing :)

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And drinkin a Yeller Jacket Long Neck!

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90. R10 writes:

Hear ya HR. For me its a respect issue. I don't see what this fella has to gain by coming into a serious thread popping off at the mouth. I really don't care about A7X;and if he likes em good for him. Add something to the thread or stay the f*** outta it. Hoping the dude gets lost@ doesn't come back. I really don't want to read any more snarky crap. ND:Silver Bullets. On sale 10.99 a 18 this week. Cheers dude!

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actually, its more of a reflection on the choice of rebellion faced by children in society as they grow older. by using offensive language they believe themselves to be somehow superior to their surroundings. you can tell me to keep on topic sir, but im not going to let you finish an unrelated point incorrectly.
but i guess i should commend you on coming up with different acronyms for tmf...

anywhom, priest were never good. from that era, metal wasnt really any good, in all honesty. slipknot was one of the first legendary metal bands, along with ff. the disloyalty of kk reflects the common attitude of the era - they didnt truly care for their music either. they were the true marketing products. even among you people bands like maiden suck today. why are they still playing? to fund themselves when they do runners on their bands.

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92. hellrat writes:

ah yes Professor, indeed! good ol' childish rebellion... the poor boy--- can't be expected to be much better when his own father stands proudly as the ass-hatted Poster Child of such unflattering antics, now can he?

Regard your own example, both here and otherwise, and may you seek well to improve the pitiful lots of both yourself, and your unfortunate son...or would you rashly choose to continue the Idiot Dynasty by example, of which you are the standard-bearing Clown?

tick-tock, tick-tock....what now then matey?

Ha!

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93. true metal fan writes:

doesnt take a professor to work that out.. and hey, at least ive had sex.

and its people like you calling fans names that metal fans get the tags of dumb and thick-headed. then again, youre barely a metal fan.. i mean, priest? come on!

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94. brandedcfh420 writes:

i mean a7x ?? come on!! stop liking trendy wanker bands whos majority of fans are teeny boppers who scream like justin beiber fans!!!

# Apr 24, 2011 @ 8:49 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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95. ZMA writes:

Alright I'm back.
I don't know why this has to be so freakin' complicated and why this thread has gone so far outta wack.

hellrat I totally loved your rant about AX7 good stuff. But literally it's just a bunch of friends from California that decided they wanted to be in a band and get big. And they did get big so more power to them, at least some of them can play and play well at that. I really could give a sh!t less what awards they've won and where they've play really. They're just another band.
This thread only went off the beaten path because of TMF and his retarded views towards both bands, and metal in general. Well that and the fact that everyone including myself fed the troll. I guess I'm still feeding.

But anyway to say Slipknot were the first legendary metal band is ridiculous. That bands been dragged through more sh!t then Charlie Sheen.
And disloyalty? 40 motherfvckin' years yo!! The guy played consistently in the band HE CREATED for 40 years with the core lineup staying mostly the same with the exception of drummers being replaced. Which is understandable because drumming is a hard job.
When I see Corey Taylor with a six octave vocal range then I'll agree with that.
Judas Priest mastered the duel lead guitar style they've been best known for. As the times have changed they've always stepped up their game. When the glam movement hit big, they answered with Turbo. And when they thrash and death metal movement hit big they answered with Painkiller. Back when they reunited they proved they still had what it takes with Angel Of Retribution.
You need to respect your elders dude. Without Black Sabbath and Judas Priest. Slipknot or AX7 might not be around.
I know wikipedia isn't exactly the best place to get truly accurate info from but literally on Slipknot's page in the first sentence in their style section it says this:
"Slipknot draw influence from an array of styles and bands, most notably including hard rock and heavy metal bands such as Kiss, Black Sabbath, Slayer, Judas Priest, Korn, Metallica, White Zombie, Led Zeppelin and Beastie Boys."
I appreciate the old so I can appreciate the new. Metal is stronger then it's ever been, but it wouldn't be possible without the founding fathers of this amazing genre that we're all here for.

But really I've said all this sh!t and it's not gonna register. This troll thread will continue onward regardless.
I'm happy to know that at least regs like HR, R10 and branded will take in what I have to say and come back with something worth reading.

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96. R10 writes:

Good stuff ZMA! A little respect eh? sh** all over those who paved the way? Hmmm. But you got it right TMAs looking for a reaction;he obviously got it. Confused to why he had to voice his claims on this thread though. Not much more I can add guy;other than all hail the mighty Priest! NP:You Got Another Thing Coming; Priest!

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97. brandedcfh420 writes:

yea zma, he says those fruity nonsense statements then tries to make himself sound so intelligent, yet has to bring his child into the discussion to make himself seem even more retarded!!!

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98. ZMA writes:

Yea I don't really understand that either R10 but it's whatever. Not much can be done ya know?

branded, I'm just glad I wasn't on when that stupid conversation came up about the kid. You R10 and hellrat handled that sh!t like a boss though.

Guess that's it for the time being until the trolls come back for feeding.
In the mean time the only priest I hail is Judas Priest. Hell yea.......
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99. Mashui writes:

Gonna miss him on the next album, it won't be the same. I never got a chance to see them live either.

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so... uh you guys like hip hop?
already missing kk

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101. Nunya writes:

Seeing them now would be like a preeschool without any staple guns

# Apr 25, 2011 @ 7:39 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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102. hellrat writes:

Good Lord! Tediously Monotonous Fvckoff just can't follow through, eh?

Anyway, appreciate your perspectives Z-man and big R...and sooner or later another dumbfvck trollio with end up with a bigger beast on the end of his line than he bargained for ;)

i don't mind sandbagging these bottomfeeders...no, not at all :)

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103. yourmomsdildo writes:

great just great, KK downing leaves JP,
Jeff Loomis leaves nevermore, and somewhere cc devill is still sucking as bad as he ever did.

I demand justice.

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104. hellrat writes:

^Ha! ya YMD, fvckin injustice indeed...hard to believe that the coke slut, frosted-mopped soccer mom with the nasal ciggie voice is still strummin the strings, ain't it?

figured that fvckin goofball woulda keeled over or 'saw the light' LONG ago :)

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105. metalfinger writes:

I'm pretty much depressed al the time, but now I'm really depressed...best of luck KK

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106. wilco writes:

damm shame he is jp

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Thank you,Mr. Downing,for all the years of music and memories. I wish you the best of luck in the future,and know that fans around the world will miss you deeply on the forthcoming Priest tour.This is like Zeppelin without John Bonham, some people CANNOT be replaced. Again,best wishes in your retirement! \m/ \m/

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