Machine Head Members Robb Flynn and Adam Duce Enter Therapy

Band Photo: Slipknot (?)
Machine Head's frontman Robb Flynn has posted a lengthy update online. The post reads as follows: "Drank my first sip of the Sizzurp the other night, I gotta say man, I was lovin' the Sizzurp. If you're not a wigger like me, and don't know what Sizzurp is, Wikipedia that shit, the explanation is hysterical. New wine I'm digging too, The Prisoner by a winery called Orin Swift out of Napa ($35)... good shit! Loving Chopin Polish Potato vodka too, kinda hard to find, but rockin'!
"Hope everyone had a cool holidays and New Year's. The fam and I had a good one ourselves. Had my wife's 16 family members and my Mom for some Christmas dinner at our house... ham, scalloped potatoes, some green beans, and lots of egg nog and XO Cognac... mmmm, man... sprinkle a little pumpkin spice on that shit... fuckin' great!
"We're out with METALLICA right now in America (that's right bitches! Main support to METALL-I-FUCKIN'-CA in America!) and we're super stoked about it! Most of those shows have been pretty sweet, so far Washington D.C. was hands-down the rowdiest crowd, with Milwaukee and Newark #2 a close second. They usually let all the Met-Club people in early and they have been treating us really well; very receptive to what we're doing, and it was cool starting to get to see and know some of them after a while. Tons of them went to multiple shows and manned the same spot on the barrier night after night. The stage is cool too. Having played in the corner of a room for over half of my life, it took some getting used to playing in-the-round, or, 'in-the-rectangle' if you wanna get technical. First night in L.A. was a disaster, but after that we got it down. We definitely command it now, and we *have* to command it. If we don't, it's so easy to just get lost up on that giant stage, and lose the attention of an audience who, for the most part, have never even heard of us. THE SWORD dudes are cool, had a couple good hang nights with them. Kind of a weird vibe on the tour as a whole though, but stage crew and Metalli-camp is totally fuckin' cool.
"We are loving the banners all you Head Cases have been bringing! In fact, there's been so many cool banners (Flynn's Brew Crew was a personal fave), we've reinstated the banner contest just to see what you guys got! Go nutz Head Cases!
"After this we're off to Europe to with Metallica until May which is gonna be face-melting!
"SLIPKNOT tour was amazing! I really can't go on enough about it. 10 1/2 weeks with Slipknot, man, I've wanted to kill some bands after two weeks, but after 10 weeks with them, I miss all those dudes already. Japan fucking ruled! Eight truly amazing shows! The crowds there are out of their fucking minds! And despite the Loudpark Festival being a technical nightmare of biblical proportions for us (I played the majority of the show without a guitar), the crowd was jaw-droppingly brutal! They chanted 'Machine Fucking Head' for 15 minutes after we left the stage!? Scotland, Manchester and New York City, you better watch your backs, you have new rival in the circle pit department, and they may have already stolen the crown... zang!
"First time in New Zealand was killer, and Australia was incredible as always, with Brisbane setting the bar impossibly high for the rest of the country. The fuckin' hillbillies in Adelaide killed it though... you hillbillies are awesome! Perth was pure drunken Halloween insanity with girls onstage dressed as witches rockin', showin' us a thing or two on the Git-Fiddle, and stagediving! Fuckin' blast!
"And Europe was equally amazing! Our good friend Henning Gulli was there to document all the shenanigans in both Oz and Europe.
"Slipknot dudes were great to hang with, had some fine drinking nights with Joey, and a couple of really good ones with Mick. Corey's birthday was a blast, and it's just gotta be said, Jim Root is the fucking man! Their crew was awesome, solid dudes all around, and really went out of their way to take care of our crew. The CHILDREN OF BODOM dudes rule! Those dudes had it rough opening up some nights, but they went out and killed it every night man! Awesome band, Phil and I had a couple of unforgettable drinking nights with them blasting N.W.A. and Ice Cube until ungodly hours of the night drinking Jameson's Whiskey and Grey Goose vodka. Alexi and I visited the Marshall Amplification Factory to meet Paul Marshall and Co., and got to try out their latest amps. The Kerry King one really stood out to me. Great distortion, great definition, it's a good fuckin' amp.
"The tour ended a little abruptly, as we reported Phil collapsed again, this time in Sheffield. It had been happening a bit on this last tour, most dramatically in Paris where, for no apparent reason at one in the afternoon, he collapsed face first into a wooden table and broke two glass ashtrays on his chest and had to go to the hospital. For the most part none were public or onstage, so they weren't publicized, but we're very concerned, worried, and a little scared about what's going on. It's confusing. And because it's so random, frankly, it seems dangerous. The doctors he's been seeing, in my opinion, haven't been doing enough, and the advice they've given him is ridiculous. But he seems to be feeling good, and it hasn't happened since then, which is a great sign. He's working to change his habits and to be a little healthier (eating, exercise, stretching) but other than the first few days out, his habits haven't really changed much. *ahem! cough!*
"Adam (Duce, MH bassist) and I have been going to therapy. Yep... going to therapy, to work out our bullshit. And oh how we *needed* to do this... lemme tell ya, after 17 years of being in a band together, touring together for a large majority of that time, we've accumulated a lot of shit between the two of us that's either been put off or swept under the rug, and frankly, it all reached a boiling point on the first night in Paris on the Slipknot tour. To summarize briefly, after a massive two-day-long fight, I quit the band. I was gonna be on a plane the next day and as far as I was concerned, I was never gonna see the dude again for the rest of my life. That next day he came by, and we agreed to try and sort it out... to try therapy before it all fell apart. Because it was falling apart. We agreed that the band meant more to us, that our friendship meant more to us, and that neither was something the two of us (four of us, for that matter) wanted to lose. All-in-all it's going okay. We both bring a LOT of baggage to the table, as, frankly, we're both pretty fucked up. While it isn't new for me (I did two years of fairly intensive therapy back in '98, and more before The Blackening), it is new to him, and we still have a lot of work ahead of us... but, we're working at it. We don't want to lose this, and after all we've been through, to lose this band, our friendship, now, would seem like the hugest of failures.
"On a lighter note... this February 12th marks the the two-year anniversary of touring behind The Blackening, and this August 8th marks our 15th anniversary as a recording artist. Wow! It's amazing that we've survived this long. That we've prospered this long, making this kind of music, on our own terms, on our own [often lonely] path. We've watched three musical trends come and go, and for some reason we weathered all of them only to come out stronger. It's incredible when I really sit back and think about it.
"As a man named Dickens once wrote, 'It was the worst of times, it was the best of times'...
"Ain't that the fuckin' truth.
-Flynn"
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56 Comments on "Machine Head Members Enter Therapy"

5. writes:
Machine Head breaking up would hurt my heart, literally.
I've been into Machine Head for a LONG time, one of the first bands I ever got into. I couldn't see myself listening to metal if Machine Head was never around.
Its known that when you are with someone so much, you start to get sick of each other (Lamb of God is an example, Killadelphia.) but, there is nothing wrong with getting therapy for it.
7. writes:
Exactly. Everyone in Machine Head are GREAT musicians, and if any of them were replaced, It'd be weird, but especially the voice of Machine Head, Robb. I can't see anybody doing what he does. His voice is real unique to me, and very powerful.
I just hope Machine Head works out all issues, and stays together. We need some more albums!
8. writes:
Davidian: I know these guys. They will survive this. I'm sure everyone in the camp knew that if Rob left; all was lost. Trust in the mighty MFH my brother. They aint goin anywhwere anytime soon. Phil's health worries me more than anything right now. "He's working to change his habits and to be a little healthier (eating, exercise, stretching) but other than the first few days out, his habits haven't really changed much. *ahem! cough!*". Phil needs to stop fvcking around and get himself into shape so that he's there for the long haul.
9. writes:
Blindgreed - Hell yeah man. I was just saying, if they were to break up real soon, I'd be effected pretty bad. But yes, trust in the almighty MFH. :D.
Hopefully Phil is starting to get better, I haven't seen Machine Head since their tour with Lamb of God, Trivium, and Gojira. I'm hoping they come back to Virginia soon.
11. writes:
Well, they really are sitting down and talking it out. Just with a professional surrounding them.
I mean, it sounds real p***y like and everything, but therapy can help. It saves marriages, and being in a band is like being married really. Haha.
But seriously, therapy is basically just sitting down and talking it out, you just do it professionally. Therapy is great as long as you have a great therapist.
12. writes:
im saying why have some1 who is "professionsl" there, wasting every1's time. i mean all any band needs to do is just sit and talk it out. them and noone else. DAM NOW THE METALLICA THERAPY TREND IS HERE. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUK! WHOS NEXT? WAIT, LETS GET ALL THE EMO BANDS TO GO TO THERAPY!!

21. writes:
i agree with 14.......... brandedcfh420 is just like a f***ing moron ..... why do u show your hatred of tallica here ???????? it's all about machine head not tallica.... it seems you have issues and u really need therapy instead of Robb......... f*** u i read some of ur bullsh**ty opinions and they all suck ..... go out and stand in front of tallica fans and shout u hate this band cause u are jealous about their success and they rape your b****ing a$$ for that ...... it seems that james fingered u and that made u to say sh** like this..... f*** u and f*** tallica..... who cares about your b****ing???? you are just running down to the toilet.....
22. writes:
I respect Robb and his bassist for seeking help. Everyone eventually needs to talk about their problems, and I find nothing wrong with band members seeing a psychologist or psychiatrist. In my eyes, Robb Flynn is the man...if I ever get to talk to him, I will thank him for being so cool. Long interview - but very insightful. I think it would royally suck if Machine Head broke up..at least they are trying what they can do to keep the band together.


25. writes:
Bruno: Lol!
Dozer: branded has every right to his opinion regardless of how you or anyone else feels about it. He stayed on topic with the story and voiced his opinion. He didn't come here to bash Metallica, but that's what you are going to turn it into. branded is a lot of things, but a moron isn't one of them. I am however starting to wonder about you though.
27. writes:
Having worked in Child Psych for 4 years I know what can go on in these type of sessions. I would take 2 old friends at each others throats over a Family Session anyday, but it's still very hard at times to get out what we need to get out. Alot of the time things go unsaid and unresolved when some people try to work this stuff out on their own. Especially 2 toughguy, rockstar egos. And it is never easy to be faced with a list of one's own flaws laid bare for all to see.
While I feel therapy is often overdone and can very quickly become a crutch for dealing with ones everyday issues, in small doses like this it can really help to better the situation. I'm assuming Adam and Robb have already tried to hash it out a bit and came up short. Maybe this will help them get out what they can't always portray to each other on a daily basis. I wish them luck, cause this kinda sh** is not always easy, even with someone to help guide you through it.
29. writes:
Some people just need to accept that they need help from someone else besides themselves; if the two men wanted to just solve it by sitting and talking it out, they would have done that a long time ago, and they would have made some progress if they did so effectively...but they didn't. The first step is acceptence and they have taken it. It's still not going to be easy, but I wish them much luck as well.
And I agree with all of post 27


32. writes:
Machine Head is alright i mean there mediocre at best but i hope they work things out. they may not be MY style but they've always been machine head and they dont seem like they've ever given way to trends for financial benifit and thats something i respect and i hope they keep flying the machine head flag for a while.

35. writes:
bbristowe writes:
It's tough to talk about your problems with your bandmates if the problem is surrounding those in your band.
well, its better to talk it out amongst the members and not bring in some lame a$$ head shrink who learned everything from a book, who will charge them out the a$$ to tell them that they need to talk it out amongst themselves!!!
40. writes:
Wow, i can't imagine a Machine Head without Flynn... im so glad they're working it out, it would suck to see the band disband after 17 years together making some of the best metal music out there...
Therapy does work though, but only if the therapist is any good. It's like sound with a band. a band is only as good as the soundman, some goes with the therapy and therapist.
Now listening to: Darkitecht - Adagio

41. writes:
First off, f*** you brandedcfh420. You try being in a legendary metal band for over 15 years. I never want to know whta it would be like if Machine Head broke up. Not just broke up, but broke up because of Robb leaving the band. They're my 2nd favorite band (only Pantera beats them in my book). They're soooooooo important to my life. I hope everything gets sorted out and that they continue to make great music and tour their asses off so I can see them. MACHINE f***IN' HEAD FOR LIFE!
42. writes:
metalhead and if they breakup what are you gonna do?? your life is gonna end , your girlfriend gonna leave you with your best friend, gonna loose a job get evicted from the house then a mental breakdown and pow you're gonna shoot your idols psycho!!!!
on a lighter side Rob has a good taste for alcohol "Loving Chopin Polish Potato vodka too, kinda hard to find, but rockin'!
" oh yeah f***ing good one :D
44. writes:
Wow, that was pretty bold & open hearted of Founder guitarist Robb Flynn to express his inner feelings both good & turmoil: that was really heavy news & surprising 'cause every band for sure have disagreements but to physically fight one another well that put me on edge/frighten "freaked" me out there. It's hard seeing such strong level headed Master musicians Flynn & Bassist Duce (that's a big dude/I hope he didn't hurt Flynn too much..'smile or each other too much. That's scary!) fighting each other due to what ever build up behind it: well it's healthy that they seeing a therapist for their renegard ways & they realize just how important their band MACHINE HEAD means & "all" the hard works they the four of them put into it & continue to do so. Much encouragement to them in their therapy help & "healing" all the way around. Peace & Godbless!

45. writes:
I really think with some of the issues these guys would have generated over the years, that sitting down and talking, wouldn't do sh*t. Therapy gets to the root of the problem and gets all of the residual problems out on the table so that they can be dealt with. I really respect robb and adam for doing this therapy because i know they will come out stronger for it. But I really lolled when i thought of metallica's therapy, but the difference here is that machine will produce an awesome album after therapy.

46. writes:
well cynic i think it might be diffrent with machine head. when metallica got a theapist i thought it was lame because i was hoping they fail, collapse and quit and we never hear of them again. Machine head on the other hand is lame. and sometimes a therapist IS good b/c it acts as an arbitrator so they can say what they want and work things out without getting in fist fights or end up yelling and saying i Quit. infact i think thats exactly what happend Before they got a therapist. the therapist is a result of them NOT being able to work things out between themselves ergo-they got a therapist.
47. writes:
That's all fine and good that the band members are going to therapy and working on thier issues. I just don't, I repeat DO NOT want to see a documentary about it! Please keep your therapy private. Some Kind of Monster was a terrible thing for Metallica to do. What a bunch of cry babies they were. I'm just now respecting Metallica again with Death Magnetic.
50. writes:
Beautifully stated - Net! Yes - I work in a clinical field, so therefore, I have nothing against someone seeking counseling, especially if both parties care about one another. Good point, yes, Machine Head, as band has been together since at least 1996(?), so it is important for them to talk about their troubles with one another. Being cooped up together for over 9 years, can affect anyone. Not mention Robb going through some heavy shxt with his family. I get into arguments with my friends, and we don't spend near as much time together, as a group, like Machine Head. I may not agree with some things said on here, but, yes, everyone makes very good points, and I respect your opinion.
56. writes:
haha branded i was wondering how you were going to someone incorporate metallica into this one as well. ok you dont like them, fine but stop trying to push your opinion onto everyone on this site in every article possible! you have such a negative opinion about everything. stop trying to follow the metal stereotypes and dis anything that isnt 'hard' or 'tough' ..you consider so many things 'unmetal' its so lame. ok have your opinions, but for f***'s sake you're getting so repetetive.
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1. Davidian writes:
Well, atleast they are trying to work out their issues.
Machine f***ing Head without Robb f***ing Flynn... I hope I never see that day. :(