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Metallica Fans Petition For Remix Of New Metallica Album, "Death Magnetic"

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According to Mark Fleischmann from HomeTheaterMag.com, thousands of METALLICA fans have signed a petition begging the band to remix its new album Death Magnetic, citing poor sound quality. So far the petition has gained over 13,000 signatures.

The petition states: "Death Magnetic is a fantastic effort from Metallica, however many of us are disappointed by the poor audio quality present on the album. Please sign this petition so that we can hopefully either get it remastered, or re-mixed, depending on where the problems occurred at some point, or to ensure that the next Metallica album does not suffer from the same issues, or get caught up in the loudness war that is ruining modern music."

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172 Comments on "Metallica Fans Petition For Remix Of New Album"

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1. LogAnarchy writes:

I heard on the radio that the guitar hero version sounds better than the actual CD. They actually played the GH version (or so they said).

# Oct 2, 2008 @ 8:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. Fuck_A_Name writes:

If the petition was for a reMAKE of the album, then I would sign it. A Remix alone could not save the majority of this album, although the snare drum IS quite annoying...

# Oct 2, 2008 @ 8:39 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. Ironhead writes:

^^^^ So, you are gonna be THAT guy aren't you...

# Oct 2, 2008 @ 8:53 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. Kalis_wrath writes:

*LMAO* This is too funny! Even the hard-core fans want a better mixed album?

# Oct 2, 2008 @ 8:59 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. Fuck_A_Name writes:

^^^^So you're gonna be THAT guy who calls me out for being THAT guy aren't you...

Just because i hold a commonly held opinion doesn't make it wrong.

Now Playing: Amon Amarth- Runes to my Memory

# Oct 2, 2008 @ 8:59 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. Cynic writes:

I agree FAN. I signed the petition a while ago lol, but just for fun - Metallica aren't ones to admit they're wrong. Anyway, the whole Death Magnetic production thing got me reading about the loudness wars in music and long story short, I believe since the compression and distortion was done before it was mastered it would need to be rerecorded. Though audiophiles can show me wrong there.

Now Playing: Hammers of Misfortune - "We Are The Widows"

# Oct 2, 2008 @ 9:07 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. v writes:

Aw, is metal getting too loud for people these days? Get some earplugs, p***ies.

# Oct 2, 2008 @ 9:49 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. alanmetalhead101 writes:

r u guys fuking Deaf??? the cd wasnt Heavy enough for you? just turn it up lol let the ear bleeding begin!!! METAL UP UR A$$!!!!

# Oct 2, 2008 @ 10:11 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. alanmetalhead101 writes:

um wats a hard-core fan??? please enlighten me, last time i checked this was a metal band it has nothing to do with hard-core fans it has METAL fans lol you must be lost this isnt wristcuttersunderground.com

# Oct 2, 2008 @ 10:13 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. DM725 writes:

SNARE SNARE SNARE SNARE SNARE SNARE

DEAR GOD!!!!! I can't even pay attention to the riffs!!

# Oct 2, 2008 @ 10:20 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. metal 87 writes:

the album sounds great why remix it

# Oct 2, 2008 @ 10:34 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. Fuck_A_Name writes:

the album sounds great why remix it?

Read post 10; that pretty much says it for me, (except for the songs that sucked, nothing can save the Unfogiven 3)

# Oct 2, 2008 @ 10:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. Kalis_wrath writes:

Alen, my grasshopper, hard-core fan refers to a fan that is very into a band. Example; I am a hard-core fan of Watain.

# Oct 2, 2008 @ 10:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. MetallicPunk writes:

Trust me people can petition all they want but Metallica is not gonna care and not gonna remix their new album again no matter how many fans want it to happen.

# Oct 2, 2008 @ 10:49 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. Fuck_A_Name writes:

^hey, people b****ed about the sh**ty albums and how non-thrash they were, and Metallica put out death Magnetic. It took over a decade for them to pay attention, but hey that just means we just need to b**** even MORE. i'm all for it. lol

# Oct 2, 2008 @ 10:52 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. ultradrummer writes:

how many DM albums have they sold now like half a million probably more 13,000 doesn't seem like too much

# Oct 2, 2008 @ 10:59 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. Emo_Hunter175 writes:

Man they should just pull Death Magnetic off the shelves completely. I thought they couldn't get any worse then St. Anger but wow was I mistaken Death Magnetic is TERRIBLE. They need to get back to how they used to be. Kill Em' All through the Black Album were five of the best metal albums made. Since then it has just been downhill.

p.s What the f*** is with that snare?

# Oct 2, 2008 @ 11:01 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. warlock writes:

Remember on the "A Year & A Half In The Life Of.." DVD, Bob Rock argued with Lars about the drums being too loud?? Well, I guess Lars got his way with Rubin. Just remix Lars' drums so they're not so f*****g loud & the CD will sound better!

# Oct 2, 2008 @ 11:08 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. Guttersniper writes:

I think Lars is trying to put his own little trademark on the newer albums... st. anger he made it the wet noodle syndrome, now its Super Snare time...... other than that this is a good album, i dont think it was bad sound quality, this is just how Lars probably wanted it

# Oct 2, 2008 @ 11:19 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. d writes:

the problem is that the compression was blown up +10 decibels which is about as high as it gets, the problem being that everything is being dulled and if you put the cd in a nice stereo system like most do it will start clipping(weird pops and cracks). Thus rendering the cd completely unlistenable. now if you rip this to your mp3 player and listen to this on earbuds or computer speakers or just some cheaper form of sound equipment then this will be completely unnoticed. By and large someone f***ed up in mastering or is a total idiot.

# Oct 2, 2008 @ 11:20 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. kclauss writes:

terrible cd

# Oct 3, 2008 @ 12:16 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. brettTHEjett writes:

SNARE SNARE SNARE

notably on 'the end of the line', 'that was just your life', 'all nightmare long', 'my Apocalypse'

the songs are really good...but i can't use my bose headphones to listen to them especially when i'm listening to all home is gone which is 100x the quality of sound. not to mention 100x the quality of drummer, but let's not get into that.

my Apocalypse is so horrible in the quality i honestly can't comfortably listen to it
SNARE SNARE SNARE

# Oct 3, 2008 @ 2:27 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. psythe writes:

Why is there so much snare?


Because it's a trap.

# Oct 3, 2008 @ 3:18 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. Verse writes:

I haven't heard it, because, well Metallica hasn't released anything worth listening to in my eyes since the Black Album, and that was a borderline album at best, however, being an engineering student I'd like to clear some sh** up ... First of all, the reason why the production would suck is cause the mixing engineerer doesn't understand how to record sh** at the right levels, peaks need to be f***ing below -18dbfs (since this was done digitally) ... If you f*** that up there's nothing you can do, guitars sound thin, bass sounds muddy and drums just sound like a wall of noise ... no matter how f***in good your mastering engineer is, that is the simple fact ... If the sh** sounds like it's distorting, it's cause it is, not cause there's distortion on as an effect, so it's too late, you'd have to re-track the whole friggin thing, and well ... who gives a f***. Metallica has released, how many CDs? you'd think they would know by know something was up in production stage.

# Oct 3, 2008 @ 4:51 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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25. BoltThrower writes:

Haha! Maybe they should mix it like Ride The Lightning. That was sound perfected. Or maybe they should just tell the fans to put Ride The Lightning or Master Of Puppets back on since it's never going to get better than that.

# Oct 3, 2008 @ 5:03 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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26. brettTHEjett writes:

^^^ i can picture lars saying something stupid like that

if you don't like it then turn on our good sh**.

# Oct 3, 2008 @ 7:41 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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27. ZT writes:

"to ensure that the next Metallica album does not suffer from the same issues, or get caught up in the loudness war that is ruining modern music."

Modern music f***ed itself in the a$$ with all this cut and paste crap *coughProToolscough*

If it's too loud, you're too old. Simple fact.

Besides, what's everyone b****ing about? The album sounds FINE. Shut the f*** up already. No one cares.

# Oct 3, 2008 @ 7:43 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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28. BoltThrower writes:

This is probably just another moneymaking scheme by Metallica--put out a new album that is mixed so badly that nobody can listen to it and after people buy up millions of these things remix it and then sell millions more. Now people bought the same crap album twice: Chaching...Chaching!!

# Oct 3, 2008 @ 8:49 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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29. deathbringer writes:

My wife who is not a metalhead by any means but likes old Metallica said on the first listen "I don't like it - it just sounds like a bunch of banging." So there's a comment from someone with nothing invested in it (expectations or Metallica fandom).

But seriously, anyone who can't hear the production issues - bad mix, too loud=clipping - isn't listening to it on anything decent. To me, not only are the snares too loud, but they seem to make a "splat" sound when turned up loud. Not sure if they're clipping or it's just the tone/sound of them. The remix I heard from the guitar hero version sounded WAY better, and besides a new mix used the Black album snare sample.

# Oct 3, 2008 @ 9:23 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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30. brandedcfh420 writes:

last night i was at a local metal show. the band i am a roadie for, the lead singer and i are always smacktalking talking eachother over metallica. he is a metalli-sheep through and through. i even call him one. but its all in good fun. but last night he brought in the new metallica cd for the sound guy to play for every1. THE INHUMANE TOURTURE I HAD TO GO THROUGH.!!!! I WAS FORCED TO SIT THROUGH THIS PILE OF SH1T. EVEN THOUGH I HATE METALLICA WITH EVERY DROP OF BLOOD IN MY BODY, I WILL SAY WITH AN OPEN EAR AND AN OPEN MID THAT IT WAS BETTER THAN ANYTHING SINCE THE BLACK ALBUM. NOT SAYING I LIKED IT OR ENJOYED MYSELF WHILE MY EARS WERE BLEEDING FROM THE ABUSE, but it was refreshing to hear the speed elements back in the mix. but, alas, i still think metallica sucks and this cd is thier tombstone!!!

# Oct 3, 2008 @ 9:36 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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31. zMETALlica writes:

Everyone better sign this!

Boltthrower: that's why you don't buy it after hearing it sound like crap on their myspace, music video, etc. I don't blame Metallica, I blame the stupid fans for that.

To the people saying it sounds fine: you are the problem with music fans these days. You probably are already deaf. if you want it louder use your volume knob, noone will rob you of that, we're talking about it being too loud in the sense that it is a wall of distortion. listen to master of puppets. it's a perfect volume. it's "quiet" so it makes you want to crank it and when you do it sounds amazing. now go do that with death magnetic.

here are a few sites to read up on why too loud is bad:
http://mastering-media.blogspot.com/2008/09/metallica-death-magnetic-stop-loudness.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gmex_4hreQ

If you aren't convinced then you are the source of the problem with today's music being too loud. and deathbringer also made a good point. if you just listen in your crappy ipod headphones you probably can't even tell the difference between a 96kbps mp3 and the cd version. invest a tiny bit of money get some REAL speakers (not headphones). you'll hear the difference. or maybe you aren't listening loud enough in general. music is meant to be played loud, not quietly.

# Oct 3, 2008 @ 9:40 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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32. citrus_tea writes:

Fans are entitled to their opinion and to listen to music how they want. Audiophiles with expensive stereos don't necessarily have a monopoloy on good (or bad) taste.

# Oct 3, 2008 @ 10:51 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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33. citrus_tea writes:

monopoly!. Fingers are faster than my brain (not hard)

# Oct 3, 2008 @ 10:53 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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34. KF writes:

"EVEN THOUGH I HATE METALLICA WITH EVERY DROP OF BLOOD IN MY BODY..." Dude, you have Issues.

# Oct 3, 2008 @ 11:26 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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35. brandedcfh420 writes:

no i do not have that korn cd...lololol

# Oct 3, 2008 @ 11:57 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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36. That_One_Guy writes:

My car stereo doesn't seem to have all the issues that most stereos have, because I've turned the treble down some when I put in "Death Magnetic". It seems perfectly listenable then.

# Oct 3, 2008 @ 12:17 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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37. Cr4wf0rdTxJ1ng0J4ng0 writes:

you're all f***ing babies. You b**** and b**** and b**** about how Metallica needs to return to what they were. They need to riff and solo more. They do that, and it's still not good enough? Maybe it sounds like sh** because everyone bootlegged it for everyone else. I've listened to this album on at least four stereos turned up as far as I could take it, and I think is sounds fine. All you f***ers want to do is complain. You all got a great album and you should be f***in' thankful you unappreciative bastards got that.

I'm not signing this petition.

# Oct 3, 2008 @ 2:26 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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38. KF writes:

That was so funny! Man! How do you come up with it? Fag!

# Oct 3, 2008 @ 2:31 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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39. Jenny writes:

Wow. OK it's like this: I loved Metallica because they were great in the beginning, but overtime some albums just killed it. I still love Metallica to this very day and I'm sick of people bi+ching about them. Some people need to quit whining and get over some things. I do not think they should go back to their old stuff because it wouldn't make any sense for them to do that now anyways. As for the new album, I liked the riffs and the songs were decent, and I think a remix isn't a bad idea. Just think, if the fans are the ones that are asking for it, then I say do it.

# Oct 3, 2008 @ 3:00 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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40. ZT writes:

"I'm not signing this petition."

Me either.

# Oct 3, 2008 @ 3:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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41. b.bristowe writes:

"no i do not have that korn cd...lololol"

that made me lmao.

I don't mind this disc. I think the quality could have been improved. But whatcha going to do (besides sign the petition). My only complaint about this album is DEFINITELY kirks solos. He plays the simplest stuff to fast and sloppy.

# Oct 3, 2008 @ 4:45 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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42. brandedcfh420 writes:

like i said i was forced to sit through it last night. dam fukers were all laughing at me while i was in misery...the speed on some songs was great. the overall energy of the cd is good, but its nothing that will make me buy it. r.i.p.

# Oct 3, 2008 @ 6:30 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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43. ATTILATHEHEN writes:

Money-Hungry-ica needs to pony up the$$$ for a competent sound engineer-They are out there,and these filthy rich Metaljackeroffers can cetainly afford one.Shame on you for being cheapskates when it comes to what you regurgitate to your fans concerning your'product',especially when you can afford the very best.If your"bottom line"means more to you than your fans listening pleasure,your'fans'won't be listening much longer-only a diehard imbecile would continue to buy your stuff.Did your commitment to quality go out the door after your 1st gazillion?

# Oct 4, 2008 @ 5:04 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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44. XWigglesX writes:

"Money-Hungry-ica"....come on man that isn't even funny. Go to the BMTH thread if you want real lols hahah

# Oct 4, 2008 @ 5:32 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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45. wilco writes:

blalblalbla
well you really think they are going to redo the album
king lars is way to happy with his product
and if they are going to do it we will have tp pay some more money becuase its a special editiion
i do think the album is not bad at all
the snare drum is kickass i think
even i am bass person
if you look at the snare drum on st anger that was a piece of crap so i think but who the f*** i am
it not bad at all

now playing mac 11 and god shuffeled his feet
power metal band from holland
check them out

# Oct 4, 2008 @ 6:16 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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46. wilco writes:

have to say jenny is right
we need to stop b****ing about metallica
they will never go back to the old days
and have to say they are much beter than some newer bands around nowadays
like the whole scandinavian music sceene
they are a bunch off copy cats

# Oct 4, 2008 @ 6:24 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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47. brandedcfh420 writes:

wilco, do you have to hit return after everything you type out. its ok to make a whole paragraph.

# Oct 4, 2008 @ 11:18 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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48. iEATbabies writes:

were going to re re re record it in the heaviest and deepest part of the ocean; THE MARIANA TRENCH!!!!

# Oct 4, 2008 @ 1:02 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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49. ZT writes:

"they will never go back to the old days "

You're right. With families, age, and the fact that the 80's are never coming back have something to do with that. That's life.

The 80's are over people. They are never coming back. They're gone forever. Get over it. Move on with your lives.

In English, that means shut the f*** up already.

# Oct 4, 2008 @ 2:46 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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50. duncan hills writes:

i'm a metallica fan through and through, don't hate me
i am not such a fan of the mixing, but what are you gonna do? they havent added bass to ajfa, or redone the snare on st anger - they should do those before remixing death magnetic, cos frankly they need it more
go on youtube and listen to "blackened w/ enhanced original bass" - that is what they ought to do with ajfa, and then they should get to work on dm.

# Oct 4, 2008 @ 3:28 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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51. murder667 writes:

i have only heard cyanide and the day that never comes and i think it could have sounded better but its a huge step forward from st anger...that sounded like sh**

but hey. i must say i actually like those 2 songs. lol. i cant say that about any song on st anger lol, and im actually thinking about buying the cd....HOLY sh** never thought id say that lol.

so i guess i wont bash them.

# Oct 4, 2008 @ 7:23 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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52. Jenny writes:

Wilco: Thanx for agreeing w/ me. Where can I find material form the power metal band you suggested on post 45 ?

I dunno what to say...I've heard some people complain about the sound quality on the radio, but I talk to some other people who have the album and they think it's just fine.
The article says: "So far the petition has gained over 13,000 signatures." And that's when this news first came up ! I'm starting to wonder if more people have signed it... Obviously the masses have a reason for coming up with this petition in the first place, right? If the band decides to remix it, then they might get more money out of it.

# Oct 4, 2008 @ 9:59 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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53. VO writes:

Let's get to the heart of the matter. Death Magnetic could and should sound better regardless of how you feel about the music. Most real fans of this band just expected to be blown away! Especially after coming off the ping's, ring's and ding's of St. Anger. It's very obvious to me the Rick Rubin association made very little impact on the overall sound quality and production of this cd. The Black Album is still the Lamborghini recording for Metallica. I'll even take the production of Garage Days over Death Magnetic. Again, the real fans expected to be blown away both by the song's and the production and it just didin't happen. It would be cool to get another take, but I wouldn't hold my breath on it! The sad part is a finanacially they could do it at a very small loss. Hey, does anyone recall on St. Anger the did a remix of Some Kind Of Monster? They even rarranged the track to and it sounds a lot better! I think the movie inspired the idea, but it was also on the heel's of complaints made about the sound of St Anger.

# Oct 5, 2008 @ 3:32 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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54. modernrockwankery writes:

if you've ever been in a rehearsal room with a metal band, the production of this record is pretty much what it sounds like...not a whole lot of dynamic, just loud and raw. that's what metallica have said they wanted since at 'garage days', and rick rubin's approach seems to fall right in line with that. how is everybody all of a suddon a producer/engineer?
also, financially, it would not be a small loss...it would be massive. this isn't as simple as an alternate mix for the radio or a soundtrack (skom remix WAS done during the same sessions intended for the movie that would follow the record).
they've already almost hit platinum, and probably a million or two more have been pressed. keep in mind warner bros. has to put up the money for this, not metallica. if anyone should be petitioned, it's warner bros. think they'll sink that kind of cash into remix/remaster/pressing millions of copies all over again?
look...this is the best record in 20 years from metallica. just enjoy the fact that wrote an actual metal album this time.

# Oct 5, 2008 @ 12:39 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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55. brandedcfh420 writes:

well just do what L.O.G. did!!! let the fans remix it, since they seem to know so much about what needs tweaked or turned up or down...!!

# Oct 5, 2008 @ 2:41 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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56. bbristowe writes:

"it would not be a small loss...it would be massive"

Except for the money they would make off of a re-issued copy...

# Oct 5, 2008 @ 7:14 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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57. wilco writes:

brandedcfh420
well f*** me i am just a european have to think what i write in your english
jenny i will send a copy to you if you want
or look on there website mac11 if you cant find it type
type john stam mac11
on google

# Oct 6, 2008 @ 7:27 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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58. brandedcfh420 writes:

no i wasnt talking bad on you. was just saying its ok to write out a whole paragraph.

# Oct 6, 2008 @ 8:23 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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59. VO writes:

When i said it would be a small loss, I meant in terms of the value of a cd itself. A cd being repressed on this level couldn't be worth more than 10 cents, maybe a quarter??? My point is the massive wealth of metallica could sustain a reissue easily. The problem with that is they would have to find enough fault in whats out here now. As an idea they could simply redo it then reissue the redo as a trade for anyone who wanted it. Doing it this way we all still get what we started with. Again, this cd has some cool moments on it but the final mix is bad. Even crazier for me is remember all of the fly on the wall crap???? Most of us were thinking since many of those clips were released in poor quality we just assumed the final mixes would be awsome. ASSume we did!!
Again, Metallica would have to agree with this notion were all right and they were wrong, personally I don't think they will. Does anyone out there believe the cd thats out now sounds exactly like it should?? Put your best example up!! Here's Mine!! The intro to Broken, Beat, & Scarred. The drums are even distorted!! Also, isn't it interesting that Unforgiven III may be the only track that sound like it should.

# Oct 6, 2008 @ 9:24 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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60. Cr4wf0rdTxJ1ng0J4ng0 writes:

really. you guys complain too much. You think when MoP came out, people were running it through all kinds of audio software whining about the "clipping"? This just goes to show how spoiled music aficionados really are nowadays. You whine about the music, then you get good music so you complain about the mixing. If you're all such golden-eared mixing prodigi, then why don't any of you have a license to mix? You think your remix will save the world, but you won't work hard enough to get a degree?

Seeing the way you people b**** and gripe about this album is what's ruining the album for me. A buncha spoiled f***ing a$$holes. I'm tellin' you, yoiu're lucky you got an album as good as DM in the first place. And sorry, but Rick Rubin is the f***ing king. Plus Lars doesn't give a f*** what any of us think, so you might as well learn to live with it. Just because you get a ton of people to put their email address on a list doens't mean anything's going to change. Why not start a band of your own since you know so much about music? Or would that be too much work?

Clipping. You babies have been searching from day one to find something with this album to complain about. Either listen to it or don't listen to it. They're not on Roadrunner, so a remixed re-re-release remaster is pretty much out of the question.

Another good point? Beggars can't be choosers.

# Oct 6, 2008 @ 9:27 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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61. VO writes:

Another valid theory...maybe they realy don't hear as well as many of us do anymore??? Seriously, Death Magnetic should sound so much better than it does. It's just that simple. I love this band but they've changed a lot and not alway's for the better. Progressively, this band has always sounded a little better each cd out but recently that hasn't been the case at all. I think the main point is, none of waited five years for this one. We expect the best from one of the very best groups of all times!

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62. VO writes:

Being on Roadrunner has nothing to do with this!!! D.M. was poorly mixed and mastered. That is a fact for many of us out here, Just like many found fault with the sounds on St. Anger. This is not a case of whinning or begging!! When youre known for a certain level of consistent quality and that changes of course people will complain. I agree with the notion that a reissue would be unlikely, but EVERYONE NEEDS TO LOSE THE NOTION THIS COULDN'T BE DONE, REGARDLESS OF LOSS. THE PRINCIPLE OF ANY CHANGES MADE TO DEATH MAGNETIC WOULDN'T BE DECIDED BAVSE ON WHAT IT WOULD COST. THIS WOULD BE DONE ONLY IF SOMEHOW METALLICA AGREES WITH THE MANY WHO ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THE SOUND OF THIS CD.

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63. brandedcfh420 writes:

hey all metalli-sheep:
just accept the fact that metallica has reached the end!!

# Oct 6, 2008 @ 10:01 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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64. VO writes:

I think a lot of this difference in opinon has to based on personal experiences with this band. Heres another Death Magnectic odd moment.....Intro: The Judas Kiss???? Sounds promising but it almost sounds like it was sampled instead of played. Why does lars sound like he's rolling his tom's backwards? Compare that intro to Sad But...both similar in arrangement but thats where the comparison ends. Sad But.. punches you in the face, very clean and very crisp!! Judas throws a decent punch but minus the power or the clarity. Who have I just p***ed of now??

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65. bbristowe writes:

lol crawford. Holier then thou.

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66. ZT writes:

"Again, Metallica would have to agree with this notion were all right and they were wrong,"

Ha, don't worry, it's ok to dream.

# Oct 6, 2008 @ 12:47 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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67. ZT writes:

"hey all metalli-sheep:
just accept the fact that metallica has reached the end!!"

Hey douchebag, you can get off your soapbox now. Just accept that fact that no one gives a f*** about you.

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68. rutz writes:

although its better than st anger and i agree the sound could be better. this is just pathetic. what a bunch of losers. you are that worried about the sound of cd that you start a petition.

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69. wilco writes:

branded
i know man i dont care hhahah
well maybe your right about metallica mayb they need one more album
o yeah i think they still kick a$$ will see them next month in europe

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70. Cynic writes:

Nope Crawford, even despite the unlistenable production (you don't need to be a producer for your brain to tell you something sounds like sh**), the music was sub-par. The last song was good and so was parts of TDTNC, but all in all I've got better music to listen to, no point in wasting time with a semi-nostalgic groove metal disaster. All these comeback thrash albums from the giants (Testament, Overkill, Metallica, Exodus etc) have been relatively rubbish, Slayer was the only one to put out well with the half awesome Christ Illusion. Megadeth are still holding in somehow as well.

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71. VO writes:

Here's another idea that could be even less of a hassle for everyone who thinks Meatllica would some how become broke and end up voting Obama/Biden this year with the rest of us "poor" folks!!! How about they do the remix and isuue it online. The only challenge here would be to find a way to limit the downloads to accomodate original purchasers only. This would eliminate the repackaging and shipping aspect of it. Most importantly the updated version gets out and a few people would be a little happier. Thats all for this day in whinning and complaining about the sh**ty sounds on Death Magnetic! See yall at the million dollar a night Death Magnetic Tour!! Man, I sure hope they don't don't use boom boxes for PA or megephones for mics this time out??? A lil silly sarcasm is just what we all need just thought i would do my part.

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72. VO writes:

Damn there I go renaming the band again...meatallica...not too meaty on death magnetic!!

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73. brandedcfh420 writes:

ZT, ill stay on it forever....!!!!

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74. kallah writes:

More metallidrama? Jesus f*cking christ

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75. thepumpkin2 writes:

So called Metallica fans are unbelievable every time they release an album "the Fans" have to find something wrong with it. Yet the cd is somewhere near the top of the charts and they continue to sell out shows around the world.Before it was "Oh st. anger sucks only their 80's albums are good and now people are complaining about the sound of the album. Can't you people be happy that Metallica finally have a new album out and this one actually sounds closer to their old stuff then st. anger did. You all are a bunch of morons.

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76. Cynic writes:

"How about they do the remix and isuue it online." - Well another reason (apart from the fact they'd lose money remastering an album and releasing it on the net) would be they'd have to admit that they're wrong. And I mean hell, how long did it take to admit St Anger was garbage?

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77. bat2112 writes:

Huh? The sound is awesome on this album. St Anger-Garbage, yes. But the sound Death Magnetic is perfect in my opinion. It's like this album is what the natural evolution after Justice should've been...

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78. Jenny writes:

Some people out there think this: "You guys should be happy that Metallica came out with a good album, so stop complaining." Yeah, I'm a fan, and I am very happy that the material is good, and I'm sure I'm not the the only one. The songs on the album are great. But that's going off topic just a tiny bit. People that are asking for a remix are STILL fans: It has nothing to do with the material on the album: it's the quality of the album is all...I mean, it's cool if some people say that the album sounds fine, but some people don't agree with that.

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79. bbristowe writes:

We're still fans but we expect more from a band who has put a lot of effort out before and then slacks off. I'm not asking for another MoP cause I'm sick of that album but I have heard of a lot "lesser" bands who have put together a better disc than this one.

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80. MAW writes:

You guys are all f***ing stupid for crying about the mix/production. If they wanted it to have MOP mix they would have. They will not do a remix album one month after a much-anticipated release. Seriously, the fact that this petition exists shows that Metallica fans take sh** way too far, and i'm a 20 year fan. This is a very good record, period. Hammet shreds your face off and thats what I wanted anyway/ f*** this sh**. And brandedcfh420 is a dipsh**, f*** that guy.

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81. footprints writes:

who F***ing cares the albums out just deal with it

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82. brandedcfh420 writes:

MAW writes:
And brandedcfh420 is a dipsh**, f*** that guy.


why thank you extra bunches for saying what we already know....lol...looks like i made another "metalli-sheep" angry...baaaaaaaa baaaaaaaaaaa baaaaaaaa little sheep...you can say what you want about me, i trully do not care at all.....i hate this band i love watching the metalli-sheep get all mad and try to defend their dying gods.....i will not stop sh1t-talking this band, so sit back and lets party...what else you got maw?! speaking of dipsh1ts, what kind of name is maw? are you honoring your mother on this one with "maw"? get out of her basement now and get a life...

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83. thepumpkin2 writes:

Metallica fans are some of the most close minded people. I've never heard of another band being as criticized as much as Metallica for everything they put out. People always say that their only good albums are their stuff from the eighties. But if you want to talk sellout then look at the difference between the first and second album quite a difference.People should be happy that Metallica is still around after all they have been through. Bands have broken up over way less.

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84. Cr4wf0rdTxJ1ng0J4ng0 writes:

What's up with all the people over on the Slipknot threads, when I talk about how f***ing gay their new album is, all anyone can say is "It's on Billboard and it's sold a trillion copies, so that should tell you how good it is." Why isn't anyone talking like that over here? Where are all of you at? What, noone can adhere to one standard? How typical. This album sold assloads, and, judging by many comments, you're admitting that doesn't make it a good album.

Seriously. Lars doesn't care. Why would they spend time remixing something and releasing it to a bunch of unappreciative a$$holes? They put everything they had into DM and obviously it wasn't enough. What makes you think that you deserve a remix? You didn't even like it in the first place, and a remix is going to be a waste of their time becasue there'll be scads of a$$holes waiting to detract the remix and soon enough there'll be a email list of crybabies (read: petition) who want a remixed edition of the remix. How can you call yourself Metallica fans when you're never happy with what they release? If you were a fan, you'd buy the album, listen to the album, and love the album. If you were truly a Metallica fan, what they release would be good enough for you. But instead you have to whine and complain like something's going to get done.

If you want a remix, I suggest you learn how to play Guitar Hero.

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85. ZT writes:

Damn, for once, you speak the truth, Crawford! Good show, mate.

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86. ZT writes:

One thing i'll never understand though, is why people have to make personal attacks on those who like a certain band? Because it's "fun" or "cool"?

For example, some people I know love Necrophagist like no one's business. I, on the other hand, think their MUSIC is f***ing boring as f*** and nothing but a bunch of mindless wankery bullsh**, BUT, I have no ill feelings towards the bands members themselves or their fans...can't we all just keep our egos in check and respect others opinions in REAL life?

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87. murder667 writes:

well if they do remix it, it will be re released with one bonus song from st anger and it will cost 30 dollars lol

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88. brandedcfh420 writes:

even i, prolly the biggest metallica hater here, say DM is better than post black albums. but its not making like them anymore...

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89. Cynic writes:

Good point ZT I'll never get that either. Plus, calling a band member gay/whatever across the internet automatically makes you 10x a child/retard than they will ever be.

Crawford, I agree that yeah a remix would be pretty pointless if you didn't already like the album. But the below is bull...

"How can you call yourself Metallica fans when you're never happy with what they release? If you were a fan, you'd buy the album, listen to the album, and love the album."

That's just being a (hate to have to borrow a term from branded but) total mindless sheep. If an album is sh**, no amount of fandom is going to make me think otherwise. I've bought it, listened to it, but I'm not going to love everything they put out - St Anger is a good reason why. Yes I am truly a Metallica fan, they will always be my favourite band - but I'll be damned if I'm going to get on my knees and praise an album like this when there's so much better.

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90. brandedcfh420 writes:

its ok cynic, you can use the word anytime u want!!!

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91. SHREDDER13 writes:

The only thing I have to say about Metallica, is that their current album doesn't get me going like their early albums did. To be honest, I don't really care about Death Magnetic. Also, for the people who favor Metallica's modern music?...that's fine with me. I just personally can't stand anything beyond MoP. Well...with the exception of a few songs from Justice. That's pretty much it.

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# Oct 7, 2008 @ 5:31 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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92. deathbringer writes:

Well there have been plenty of articles online about how and why the trend up increasing the amplitude/loudness of the CD recordings over time has negatively impacted the quality. Here's the wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war

Here's a piece on Death Magnetic in particular: http://www.thedeciblog.com/?p=852

Educate yourself Crawford. I'm a fan too. I had realistic expectations and overall like the album and would pay money again for a properly mixed album. Some other albums I enjoy that are recorded noticably too loud include a couple by Vader and Himsa's latest. Just because you don't care or can't hear it doesn't mean it's not an issue or area for possible improvement.

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93. getalife writes:

ha i just love it.... all you idiots complaining about this "loudness war". if you want britney spears to jump out the speakers more than metal bands then keep complaining. metallica finally give everyone what they want and you whinge about that. they can't win. at least they have that "we do what the f@#k we want" attitude so they can sleep at night instead of worrying about morons with nothing better to do than complain that their ears are to sensitive.

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94. GMAN writes:

You guys are missing the real issue. James Hetfield's voice is terrible. Why the hell does he have to sing. The last good album in my opinion is Justice even though there is no bass on it. At least James didn't sound like a fag. Rick Rubin should have punched him in the face, told him to forget what Bob Rock told you, force fed him a bunch of beers and sent him out to get into a fight before they recorded. The album is poorly mixed but there are some good thrashy riffs and solo's but James sucks and he will never get it back.

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95. BoltThrower writes:

Man, I'm glad I made it down to post 94. That was some funny stuff!

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96. Cr4wf0rdTxJ1ng0J4ng0 writes:

Yeah, I don't give a sh**. You're all being touchy-ass crybabies. So let me get this straight. If you're a true fan, your opinions are something special to the band? They hear their fans don't like the album, so they're gonna remix it? YOU'RE ALL BEING SPOILED a$$holeS. Just because you're a fan doesn't mean anyone in Metallica gives a sh** about you. You bought the album, and that's where them giving a sh** stops. Now they know that you're so f***ing stupid that you'd buy TWO copies of what you're calling a BAD album. You're a goddamn idiot. I don't care what kind of elite golden ears you think you have, but anything is going to sound like sh** if you jam it in your Teddy Ruxpin and turn him all they way up to 11. You want to b****, and this day and age leaves everyone with something they can b**** about. Post 94 is more on point. If you're complaining, complain about he sh** that deserves to be complained about. James Hetfield is a lead singer who can't sing. And that to me is more of an issue that "Ooohh, I turned my stereo all the way up and DM sounds like sh** and I can't figure out why" Maybe your speakers are junk. Maybe you're stuffing a million-dollar album into a thirty dollar Coby CD Shelf system.

Fans aren't supposed to act incendiary toward the band they're supposed to love just because they don't like the mix. You're not a f***ing fan. You're a spoiled a$$hole who wants more than they deserve. You want more, go start a f***ing band. Nobody on Earth cares what you want. Maybe you should quit wasting time listening to Metallica. If you're a typical "fan" of Metallica's, you've probably been doing nothing but COMPLAINING LOUDLY since 1991. That means it's been 17 years since you really liked a Metallica release. And since they were only around 8-9 years before you started b****ing, maybe you should realize that Metallica was always heading in this direction. The good albums are because of Cliff and Mustaine, and they aren't coming back.

When I'm a fan of a band, I like everything that band releases. I swear allegiance to a band, and I swear to stick to it, regardless of what direction they take their sound in. You people are shallow and cold-blooded to gripe the whole time DM was hyping up, then when it comes out all you can do is complain about the mix. I think that proves that YOU HAVE NOTHING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT. So you have to make sh** up. If you turn your stereo up all the way with a f***ing Metallica CD in it, it's not going to sound great. Nothing would sound good up that loud. You people are pricks.

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97. deathbringer writes:

No, I think you are confusing fan and "fanboy." Fanboys are the ones who engage in arguments with the "haters" while the regular fans can have actual discussions about valid points.

And how would you know how loud anyone is playing anything? I actually have to turn my stereo down a couple notches to listen to the Death Magnetic at the same level as other albums and it sounds WORSE either way (same volume setting, equaly actual volume, or lower).

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98. Cr4wf0rdTxJ1ng0J4ng0 writes:

I just don't know what the f***ing fuss is all about. Every album has mixing flaws. I don't hear it. Maybe it's because I'm not itching to complain about something I've been waiting forever for. What is b****ing going to get accomplished? The album is there and if it sounds like sh** to you STOP LISTENING TO IT.

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99. brandedcfh420 writes:

dam crawford its midol time again....lol....

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100. Cynic writes:

Crawford, if you were aiming post 96 at anyone (you did use the word "You're not a f***ing fan"), try using their username instead of flinging insults at imaginary foes.

"When I'm a fan of a band, I like everything that band releases." - I agree with deathbringer, that's a fanboy not a fan. I'm a Metallica fan, I love their work and because of pre-black album they're probably my favourite band. But I'm not going to force myself to listen to albums I think are rubbish because I liked a bands previous output.

And I did stop listening to it, about after the second spin. I actually don't understand why you're so infuriated. The mix in general (loudness is only a part) is one reason why I don't like it, but apart from that I just didn't think the material was any good. Does that sentence me to be flamed?

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# Oct 9, 2008 @ 4:21 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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101. bbristowe writes:

"Nothing would sound good up that loud."

contrary to popular belief, or CTJJ belief

Kataklysm - Prevail. nuff said.

"When I'm a fan of a band, I like everything that band releases. I swear allegiance to a band, and I swear to stick to it, regardless of what direction they take their sound in. You people are shallow and cold-blooded"

When I spend money on a cd, I want to enjoy it. Not mindlessly plug it until I make myself hate it.

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102. bbristowe writes:

Ah, also. Your saying Metallica doesn't care about our whining and horsesh**...so...Why are you sticking up for them....if they don't care that is.

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103. brandedcfh420 writes:

uhoh, i see some flaming about to go down between ctjj and bbristowe....

# Oct 9, 2008 @ 4:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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104. bbristowe writes:

only a few questions :)

# Oct 9, 2008 @ 4:46 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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105. Cynic writes:

Kataklysm? Seriously? I think they're one of the most banal metal bands out there, I hate that sort of middle of the road modern death metal.

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106. Jenny writes:

It's not like us fans are complaining because we want someone to care (nor do we need the band to care), we are giving an opinion because we have the right to critique and/or complain. Fans have the right to stick to a band no matter what: just because we have a complaint doesn't mean we stop loving them. I still love Metallica.

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107. brandedcfh420 writes:

good point jenny..

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108. Jenny writes:

^Thanks man :) By the way, that applies to any band, not JUST Metallica. But in this case, it does apply. I understand if you personally think Metallica is dead: I respect you anyway.

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109. bbristowe writes:

Im only talking about the song Prevail just cause it's catchy, groovy and can only be listened to loud. I didn't like the rest of the album at all.

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110. Cynic writes:

Oh right that's fair enough, I think they have an album called prevail too.

Well people always talk about the "loudness" of Red Hot Chili Peppers "Californication" album which is one of my all time favourites so I guess it's negligible if the musics great. So I think there's a lot more wrong with the production of this than just the loudness. I'm no expert in any respect but the mix seemed wrong to my ears, Hetfield's vocals just blur into everything else.

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111. ZT writes:

Rock 'n Roll was MEANT to be played DIRTY and LOUD. So you lose all this other pointless little sh** when you play loud. Boo hoo.

Listen to Emerson Lake and Palmer if you want all that technicality crapola.

# Oct 9, 2008 @ 8:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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112. bbristowe writes:

The loudness factor really doesn't bother me too much and a few of the riffs I actually like quite a bit. Not like old metallica but a new spin on things and a foot heading in the right direction. But there IS something that I don't quite like about it. I don't know whether it needs more gain or less bass. Or maybe there is just too much mid. To me it sounds almost as if they recorded the whole album with the front pick up only, with a broken emg. Maybe dave snuck in again and poured beer on the amp.

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113. coldiem writes:

You know, it's threads like this that make me realize that people around here sure f***ing complain a lot, and don't do a whole lot else. Whenever there's a thread about some not-so-popular band that has a couple people saying "Hey, this band rocks" you'd be lucky to see more than 5 posts total. But whenever a Metallica, Trivium, Avenged Sevenfold, etc thread pops up you're looking at 100+ posts of people whining and complaining endlessly. Why bother?

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114. coldiem writes:

I was thinking I should point out that I was being sarcastic in my last post, but also trying to make a point. The threads with the most activity are the ones where it's not much more than a yell-fest to see who can scream the loudest for or against whatever the topic is (pun may or may not have been intended). Anyway, I'm just saying... there seems to be a lot more focus on the negative rather than the positive.

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115. citrus_tea writes:

Now playing: Death Magnetic.
Sounds fine on my cheap-ass creative system.

# Oct 10, 2008 @ 8:06 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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116. VO writes:

It's very interesting how some of us get this and many just don't!! Death Magnetic like St Anger five years ago seriously lacks in overall production. Kill em all sounds exactly like it should. I've never been a huge fan of the of the drum sound on Ride T.L. but the material on Ride supercedes any flaw or miscue in production. Master is the perfect combination of true Metallica sound! Everyone can be heard on it and the production is awsome. Justice may lack in the bass player clarity but it's not a big deal because everyone else shines. Then we get this masterpiece Black album!! There is nothing wrong with this cd...Song wise, production and performance this is an awesome album!! Load and Reload are both great sounding regardless of how you see the material. It's not whinning to question WTF happened to the quality of Metallica in terms of the studio?? Any smart listener knows when they're hearing great tunes with a sh**ty production!! Death Magnetic has some very good material on it but the sound and production are not equals.

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117. Cr4wf0rdTxJ1ng0J4ng0 writes:

So wait...I'm not a fan because I refuse to waste my time criticizing a band that's not listening? I guess it must be more honorable to nag endlessly about something you can't change. Hmm...my bad.

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118. citrus_tea writes:

VO, you make a good point. But production quality is very subjective and drastically affected by the stereo equipment used when listening.
Most of the time I listen to music either at my PC or in the car where the level of compression used in the studio does not make such a big difference to the overall distortion.
In truth I am more concerned at the quality of Hetfields vocals, which even lost in the mid-frequencies, cannot disguise the fact that his voice is not what it was.

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119. C.M writes:

This story is scary indeed.. it's like we are living the age of the clones : many kids today are caught in a f***ed up system which is around >; training a guitar solo in their bedroom, running to youtube to post it, making a band in 2 days and think they aready exist in the music industry because they are on MySpace, and so on...

But to back to the subject : this is very disapointing to see that today, one metal fan thinks he can dictate the band he likes, just like if this kind of music HAS to have only one and same sound for everyone, one particular production, the same ways to make a guitar solo ( just like if a solo was not the musician expressing himself though notes but a demonstration of the last guitar plans on Internet ! ), and this goes on endlessly.. This is indeed disapointing knowing that rock'n roll in general is a music expressing a certain freedom, many seem to forget it today, that is alarming.

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120. That_One_Guy writes:

Contrary to most people in this thread, I actually agree with just about everything Crawford said. If you don't like it, simply don't listen to it. If you paid money for it and don't like it, sell it to a used CD store or something like that. I just get kind of tired about everyone complaining that Metallica can't do anything right. At least "Death Magnetic" is a huge step-up from "St. Anger". Metallica changed their sound to please their fans, and that still doesn't seem to be good enough for anybody. Just my opinion, though.

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# Oct 10, 2008 @ 1:31 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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121. VO writes:

Ok Citrus, good point but I'm using great stereo equipment! It's the end product man! You can play any song on the black album even if its on an old casette tape, it will still sound good. Good enough for the listener to realize it will only sound better on cd and even more pwerful on a large system. What happened to the black album didn't happen to D. M. That One Guy...Metallica hasn't changed anything for anyone but themselves. Thats the point I have no reason to ever believe what we get musically from any band is done from the idea "the band changed for us". Were getting all that these guys have! It' no question these guys do what the hell they want. In the case of D.M. they dropped the ball on the mix and mastering phase of the project. I'm not dictating anything I expected better from these guys. Are you guys deaf..or something??? Listen to King Nothing..opens with a sweet bass riff..then builds itself into a nice fat charging groove. The performance, sound of individual instruments and final production all match!! That track should make us all wonder....is the absence of Jason to blame for any of this.....???? You could argue all day about him being inaudible on Justice but he was fully redeemed live on that tour and his playing on The Black cd is flawless.....My point here is some of you must think that if the song if fast maybe it doesn't matter how well it sounds in the final mix! It does matter. The tune should still sound great regardless. Bring it on I can do this in my sleep...They should have kept Bob Rock. Hate me now!!!

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122. Cynic writes:

I'm guessing you just ignored my post then Crawford because you're still talking to some invisible straw-man - It makes it a lot easier to see what you're trying to say if you quote the person you're responding to.

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# Oct 10, 2008 @ 6:38 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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123. Old mans child writes:

Ok... i used to think metalunderground and blabbermouth were good ways to keep up with the metal scene. I mean i could find out release dates, what the band is doing, tour dates, find new bands that i can enjoy, and read other peoples opinions. Well now every time i get on these sites i just become ENRAGED with what all you p***ies are saying. I mean you sit and bash metallica because they are not what they used to be, well things change, i think DEATH MAGNETIC is awesome. But i didn't start typing to give my review of the cd, i am typing to let all you losers know that, the metal scene which used to dominate this planet is DEAD. Metal is DEAD. Its whiney little b****es like you, who killed it. I mean every time i go to a "metal" show i cringe at the bands that open up and i think to myself "THIS IS WHAT METAL HAS TO LOOK FOREWARD TOO?" "THESE BANDS ARE SUPPOSED TO CARRY THE TORCH INTO THE FUTURE FOR MUSIC?" I mean seriously this is what metal has come to, a bunch of POSERS who dont know anything about good metal, i've seen alot of the same names above me bash great bands like PANTERA, SLAYER, TESTAMENT, KREATOR, EXODUS, MEGADETH, METALLICA, CANNIBAL CORPSE, SIX FEET UNDER. These bands are METAL, if you call yourself a METALHEAD these are the bands you listen to. Just the other day i met a guy at the record store(yes real metal heads buy the CD, they dont download it) he saw i was wearing a Dimmu Borgir shirt and i guess felt the urge to come give me his opinion on what he thought was good music. I told him how i felt about the music scene and then he had the nerve to say that Trivium is in the same league as the forementioned bands. I lost it. This f***ing guy supports a band that uses the death of an ICON like DIMEBAG DARRELL to propel their career into superstardom? i mean come on "oh lets use Dime's guitars on stage, oh lets play Pantera songs during our show. ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? THIS IS WHAT METAL HAS TO OFFER TODAY? I'll end on this note right now, bands like trivium, bullet for my valentine, as i lay dying, killswitch engage, between the buried and me, black daliha murder, and so on are not METAL they are one little broken word...CRAP

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124. Cynic writes:

Well that's fair enough, but next time have the balls to (as I said in the post directly above yours) direct your comments towards users instead of the ambiguous "all you p***ies".

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# Oct 10, 2008 @ 7:44 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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125. OldMansChild writes:

i could have directed my comments toward users, but my comment goes to EVERYONE who needs a wake up call on what the f*** reality is!!

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126. Fuck_A_Name writes:

Oldmanschild, i think if you really talked to 90% of the people on here bashing metallica's newalbum, youde find that the majority of them hate those bands you called crap, and with a few exceptions, listen to the bands you praised.

The reason they bash metallica, is because a lot of us are dissapointed in our heroes these days. Master of Puppets may have been one of the greates metal albums ever, but somehow Metallica also managed to make St. Anger, one of the sh**tiest "metal" albums of all time in my opinion.

If anthing, you should at least be proud of the fact that most of the real metalheads on here aren't sheep that love a bands material regardless of it's quality, we try and look at things for the most part, objectively.

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# Oct 10, 2008 @ 8:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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127. VO writes:

RIP~Death Magnetic!! A lively album, dead on production value. Full of distorted drum sounds and protool chop and mix disasters!! I'm willing to retire all of my piss and moan....Join me friends.
Death Magnetic leaves to mourn a world full of "Wannabe Drop Out Sound Engineers!!!(MYSELF INCLUDED)" In it's after life you are more than welcome to come out and support The Death Magnetic World Tour. On the road the all of your complaints can and will be redeemed. On stage Death Magnetic will get its due night after night....Millions and Million's of Dollars Worth Everynight!

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128. deathbringer writes:

Unfortunately many people, especially younger people, tend to view things as black and white (I know, I was the same once). "If you don't like it, don't listen to it" for example. I like many of the songs, but am just very disappointed with the poor production. There's really no excuse from such a seasoned band with millions to blow on top-notch production. I still listen to the album, and have mixed feelings about it and some of the songs, primarily due to production - I had realistic expectations for the album itself.

The sad thing is that most of the comments against Metallica here have been on topic and to the point of the production. So it's not even a case of the "haters" "bashing" the band. Yet the Metallisheep still come out and bash anyone who has something slightly negative to say, no matter how well reasoned, making the label of "sheep" all the more appropriate because they can't accept anything dissenting from their high opinion of everything the band has ever done. So it really bugs me to be told to "shut up" or "don't listen to it" because someone doesn't agree. Burying your head in the sand is your perogative, however.

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129. Jenny writes:

I'm young and I never bashed like that...I never see things black and white.
I completely understand what Deathbringer is saying. If anybody wants to see the really pathetic arguments, check out the Metallica fan site where they discuss the album. They have no idea how to back anything up. All it is is pretty much the things Deathbringer mentioned.

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130. brandedcfh420 writes:

hey deathbringer, glad to see ya use the term metallisheep...

# Oct 11, 2008 @ 7:24 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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131. brandedcfh420 writes:

oldmanschild really needs some midol!!!! look dude, we come on here and voice our opinions as to what we think or feel about a certain band and the music of said band. i supported metallica from 1984 till they began sueing every1 they could find the slightest thing to sue about. if thats what a band has to resot to, then they no longer have any love for their fans. so many times in so many articles lars and co. showed just how delusional and in love with their own voices they trully are. sure they are millionares and can do wtf they want, but does that make any better than any other band that actually gives a sh1t about their fans and the quality of the music made? just because you are a sheep does not mean what you say or think is any better than what we think or say here. you did what we have done, voiced you opinion. JUST BECAUSE WE DONT LIKE METALLICA DOES NOT MEAN WE ARE NOT TRUE METALHEADS!!!! looks like you may have some delusionality yourself. i know im smacktalking, but so did you. calling us pu$$ies because we dont like your has-been, still trying to be, metal heroes!! baaaaaaaaaaaaa baaaaaaaaaaaaaa punka$$ b1tch metalli-sheep!!!!

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132. Chuck_of_Perdition writes:

its pretty simple really, the entity known as metallica, like all things in life, has evolutionated!
its imposible to expect another MOP or another AJFA....its like if someone ask us to be exactly like we were 10-15 years ago!...it just will not happen.
so all we have to do is take what they can offer and if i like it then i like it, if no then i dont fvcking like it and thats it...i'm not gonna spend amounts of hours asking myself why they're not like in the old days and all that stupid and nostalgic behaviour.
if someone wants the old metallica then listen to master of puppets all day long.

and as far as the new album getting remixed...well its not gonna happen.
like was said on post 14, metallica will leave things as they already are....like with and justice for all, they never remixed it and left the bass sound untouched.
i personally liked death magnetic, i think it is a new era of the band and with some ups and downs as far as the songwriting goes but is ok for me....specially ''that was just your life''

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133. brandedcfh420 writes:

Chuck_of_Perdition writes:
its imposible to expect another MOP or another AJFA....its like if someone ask us to be exactly like we were 10-15 years ago!...it just will not happen.

daM, another dumbass going with the "we expected this to be like master of pupopets.."..NO WE DID NOT!!! LARS SAID THEY WERE TRYING TO GET BACK TO THE PUPPETS FEEL...WELL, THE B1TCHES FAILED MISERABLY..ok, how many dumbass metallisheep are going to keep saying if you want the old sound and feel then listen to the older stuff. IF GERIATRIC-TALLICA HADNT SAID THEY WERE GOING FOR AN OLDER FEEL, THEN NOONE WOULD HAVE EXPECTED AN OLDER FEEL TO THE NEW CD. BUT AS IS THE CASE THESE DAYS, THE BRAIN DEAD METALLISHEEP HAVE TO LICK THE BALLS OF THEIR SHEEPLE SHEPHERDS AND BOW DOWN AND DEFEND THEM AGAINST ANY KIND OF NEGATIVITY. WELL, GO BUY SOME LUBE, LOCATE LARS AND HIS MERRY BAND OF HASBEENS AND LET THEM ASSRAPE YOU SOME MORE. yes im sh1ttalking again but o well. im only pointing out what was said from the metall-camp, not the fans.

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134. ZT writes:

"JUST BECAUSE WE DONT LIKE METALLICA DOES NOT MEAN WE ARE NOT TRUE METALHEADS!!!! looks like you may have some delusionality yourself. i know im smacktalking, but so did you. calling us pu$$ies because we dont like your has-been, still trying to be, metal heroes!! baaaaaaaaaaaaa baaaaaaaaaaaaaa punka$$ b1tch metalli-sheep!!!!"

Yup, just another elitist.

# Oct 12, 2008 @ 12:50 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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135. brandedcfh420 writes:

ZT, refering to me or him??

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136. Chuck_of_Perdition writes:

you're so stupid brandedcfh420...just look at what you're writing...with your stupid comments its clear that you are the real dumbass in here.
first, in many interviews hetfield has stated that rubin told them to think and basically act like back in '85 and he said it was impossible, and what they tried to do is to get the aggression back and the solos and just another good metallica album. you say the failed miserably, well what the f*** do you expect in new metallica album huh?? crazier solos, faster songs, shorter choruses, what??

there seems to be a lot of idiots complaining and sh** about it that evidently cant go on with their miserable little lives anymore...you're so pathetic.

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137. Chuck_of_Perdition writes:

i think its a waste of time even answering you, but whaterver...
you gotta be one of those douchebags talking crap about metallica and calling everyone a metalli-sheep and i'm pretty sure you're all f***ing day long listening to them!
if its hard to admit get some help on being true to yourself or somethin' lol

# Oct 12, 2008 @ 2:54 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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138. brandedcfh420 writes:

blah blah blah...true to myself heh...im not the one holding on to the metalli-craze. i let them go. i do not own 1 damn cd from them. why is anytime some1 talks bad on metallica, metalli-sheep b1tches like you have to come out and act all bad a$$ about a band thats been a sinking ship for years. all we are doing is voicing our opinions, just like you are doing. i never expected them to get the old feel back. all bands change their music with age. every band changes the formula up somehow. all you metalli-sheep just cant stand when something is said about your fave bands, whoever that band is. so go on and keep talking like you are some1 of importance. ill just laugh at another metall-b1tch who cant stand that some1 said something bad about metallica...waaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaa..he called me stupid and a dumbass....o my feelings are hurt...lol..its just a website dude. we have every right to post what we want, as long as the admins allow it. and i am noticing ol deathbringer getting to point where he is beggining to see the metalli-sheep as little sheeple as well. baaaaaaaaaaaaaa baaaaaaaaaaaa baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, mary had a little lamb...baaaaaaa baaaaaaaaaa baaaaaaaaa....i listened to the new cd, thought it was better than any other post "black album" cd, but just didnt get into it. even though i hate metallica, i listened with an open mind. it was good to hear speed elements back in the mix, but its too late. metallica has lost millions of fans over the years due to their changing of the recipe. but like i said, all bands change it up somehow...but why do little metalli-b1tches have to attack the metalli-haters for voicing their opinions. go ahead and hate us for our personal, free choice opinions that you yourself are entitled to.

# Oct 12, 2008 @ 3:17 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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139. Chuck_of_Perdition writes:

and who told you i cant stand a negative comment about them??
when sh** anger was released there was nothing good to say about it, but now its a different story.
i just posted what i think about the whole situation and you started writing me back, i was like ''wtf...whatever hahaha lol''

well whatever man, i guess you're right about the voicing of opinions
who really cares about what you think about metallica, if you hate em or not i guess is ok but why do you even post in a metallica topic anyways...pointless.
metallica is not my favorite band by the way but i like their new album

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140. Cynic writes:

Paragraphs people paragraphs! I refuse to read posts without paragraphs, jesus.... and seriously branded do you not get tired of saying the same thing over and over again? I don't even bother to read your posts anymore.

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141. bbristowe writes:

Meh they'll never do it. But I think it would be cool if they did. Anyways, thread locked LOL. I wish.

# Oct 12, 2008 @ 7:54 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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142. brandedcfh420 writes:

well, cynic, everytime some metallica fanatic tells us that we are pu$$ies, or if we wanted to hear an older feel, then listen to older metallica. well, if the masses had not been misled by lars and co. then the sheeple wouldnt have been expecting an older feel!!

# Oct 12, 2008 @ 8:37 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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143. brandedcfh420 writes:

and i honestly could care less if you read them or not. doesnt affect me at all!!

# Oct 12, 2008 @ 8:37 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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144. Cynic writes:

Yeah but the difference is we all know that having a flame war with them won't make them cordially reconsider. I guess I just don't get the fun of calling someone gay over the Internet.

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145. Fuck_A_Name writes:

^that's cuz ur gay

# Oct 12, 2008 @ 9:33 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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146. brandedcfh420 writes:

uuuuuummmmm, i never called any1 here gay..just sheep...

# Oct 12, 2008 @ 10:01 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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147. Cynic writes:

The gay thing was not specific it was an allusion to the wide variety of insults you make.

# Oct 12, 2008 @ 10:14 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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148. brandedcfh420 writes:

ok, fair enough, but as long as they insult us hates, then i will be insulting the braindead, sheeple...

# Oct 13, 2008 @ 7:38 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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149. Chuck_of_Perdition writes:

damn you're so braindead! lol

# Oct 13, 2008 @ 9:23 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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150. brandedcfh420 writes:

hey man, its hard work to be this braindead!!...lol

# Oct 13, 2008 @ 9:26 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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151. Jenny writes:

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...

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152. BanjoMan writes:

everyone needs to quit b****ing...of course metallicas music isn't going to be just like their older stuff....that was in the 80's, this is 2008, and because of that, everyone overanalyzes the quality of it, when back in the 80's you didn't NOTICE it. Damn I miss those days

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153. That_One_Guy writes:

Damn, branded, everything with you is "metalli-this" and "metalli-that". You're really over-using "metalli-"...

# Oct 13, 2008 @ 11:36 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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154. brandedcfh420 writes:

yea TOG, maybe just a bit....but o well....

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155. Chuck_of_Perdition writes:

hahaha i guess everyone is ok now...lol

# Oct 13, 2008 @ 5:20 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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156. Cynic writes:

Well here's a hint as to not get into fights, don't open a Metallica thread with a comment like "JUST FUKING DIE ALREADY YOU WORTHLESS PILES OS DOGSH1T!!!!" (actual quote there) - and then perhaps you won't get called an a$$hole. Try do things like, well I don't know, not throw personal insults at band members you know nothing about and focus on the music.

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# Oct 13, 2008 @ 6:27 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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157. Cynic writes:

Oh and Chuck_of_Perdition is an awesome name haha, every time I read it I instinctively sing the chorus but replace the Ghost with Chuck - "Chuck of perdition! A saint's premonition's - unclear"

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# Oct 13, 2008 @ 6:41 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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158. bbristowe writes:

I just want to set one thing straight for most people here. Not picking any names BRANDED. Just messing.

I feel that old metallica '83-'91 was f***in golden. But I, for one, have NO INTEREST in another MOP or AJFA. I like a few if not most of the riffs on DM BUT I in no way expected them to sound like Damage Inc.

All I would want if for them to remaster the album. Odds are they could possibly remaster it digitally if they recorded it properly. Fear Factory did it, why can't meatallica.

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159. bbristowe writes:

lol Metallica*

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160. brandedcfh420 writes:

bristowe, neither did i. but it trully doesnt need to be remixed. it was a 6 of 10 in my opinion. i listened with an open mind and ear. good riffs, good solos, great speed sounds...but it doesnt make me put the cd in my rush out and buy it list.

cynic, i will call the band what i want. not trying to fight with you on this one man, for real. its an open forum, and every1 is free to post what they want, as long as the admins allow it. HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU SEEN OTHER MEMBERS HERE TALK MEGASH1T ON BANDS THEY HATE. i dont see you trying to lecture them as you are with me. it just got to the point where every other day there was something new on metallica suing some1 else and the band talking their delusional minds off about sh1t that made them sound retarded. but o well, we are all a metal loving family, with different likes and dislikes on certain bands in the industry.

# Oct 13, 2008 @ 7:21 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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161. Cynic writes:

I don't lecture others because they're often not regulars, and don't blame it on MU for posting news on Metallica. The point is a massive amount of users have taken umbrage at what you say because you're either insulting them (post 63 for example) or making ridiculous insults at the band.

Just don't ever wonder why it's only you that everyone flames, the "metalli-sheep" rhetoric is a thin veil to the fact you've got no ammo left but swear words and paragraph-less rants. I mean, no-one flamed you for post 42 did they, I'd just like to see more posts like that.

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# Oct 13, 2008 @ 7:55 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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162. brandedcfh420 writes:

im not blaming MU for the news on metallica. i was saying thats what made me begin the hatred of them.

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163. Chuck_of_Perdition writes:

Cynic writes:
Oh and Chuck_of_Perdition is an awesome name haha, every time I read it I instinctively sing the chorus but replace the Ghost with Chuck - "Chuck of perdition! A saint's premonition's - unclear"


hey thanx!!! i do sing it that way all the time too!
i friend of mine actually one day just sung it that way while listening it and i fvcking loved it ever since lol!

# Oct 14, 2008 @ 5:13 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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164. ZT writes:

"I mean seriously this is what metal has come to, a bunch of POSERS who dont know anything about good metal, i've seen alot of the same names above me bash great bands like PANTERA, SLAYER, TESTAMENT, KREATOR, EXODUS, MEGADETH, METALLICA, CANNIBAL CORPSE, SIX FEET UNDER. These bands are METAL, if you call yourself a METALHEAD these are the bands you listen to. Just the other day i met a guy at the record store(yes real metal heads buy the CD, they dont download it) he saw i was wearing a Dimmu Borgir shirt and i guess felt the urge to come give me his opinion on what he thought was good music. I told him how i felt about the music scene and then he had the nerve to say that Trivium is in the same league as the forementioned bands. I lost it. This f***ing guy supports a band that uses the death of an ICON like DIMEBAG DARRELL to propel their career into superstardom? i mean come on "oh lets use Dime's guitars on stage, oh lets play Pantera songs during our show. ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? THIS IS WHAT METAL HAS TO OFFER TODAY? I'll end on this note right now, bands like trivium, bullet for my valentine, as i lay dying, killswitch engage, between the buried and me, black daliha murder, and so on are not METAL they are one little broken word...CRAP"

I agree with you on some points earlier in your post, but then I got to this section above, and I have to say that this is the a-typical metal elitist attitude. So Trivium use Dimes' guitars and this and that. Dude, who gives a sh**. Just enjoy the music and let others do the same, regardless if it's your taste or not.

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165. ZT writes:

"I am typing to let all you losers know that, the metal scene which used to dominate this planet is DEAD. Metal is DEAD."

Well, if you mean dead in the commercial sense, than yeah, its deader than Julius Cesar, but metal isn't "DEAD" per se. As long as there is some young, angry chicks 'n dudes who want to piss people off and play louder than hell, Metal will always be alive. Don't be so negative, now. ;)

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166. Txmetalhead writes:

Skinlab is a hundred times better than new Metallica(Load-St.Anger)...and they are actually cool people. I have the new metallica album, however, I haven't even heard it yet. Machine Head are great too. That is fukkin' thrash you can depend on. I still can't believe how good Skinlab is. Groove metal with thrash...awesome.

# Oct 14, 2008 @ 6:51 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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167. Txmetalhead writes:

Hell ya - metal will never die. We won't let it! Metal is life, for me.

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168. Txmetalhead writes:

For the record - Old Man's Child - I only listen to Pantera, Kreator, and Six Feet Under. So, in your eyes, I guess I ain't a true metalhead...yep..more elitist bullshXt talk. Most of the band you listed are thrash, and thrash is not favorite type of metal. Metal is more than thrash, dude, get a clue.

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169. ZT writes:

"Groove metal with thrash...awesome."

I hate labels like a mother, but Groove metal is where it's at for me. I love it.

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170. That_One_Guy writes:

Txmetalhead, Old mans child doesn't really know what he's talking about...... he just thinks he does.

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171. BludgeoningSpawn writes:

Having heard the Guitar Hero remixes and the vinyl, and being a consumate vinylholic with only a low mid-range system and a cheap set of cans (so not a jumped-up audiophile by any stretch!), it is obvious to me that the released mixes are poop and the GH3 mixes what the album should sound like.

The released mixes are poop due to the clipping, as is being pointed out by those who seem to be getting flak for pointing out the truth.

I like my metal loud. Turn this album up and all you get is crappy noise - digital artifacting - it's like zooming in on a poor quality JPG picture taken on your mobile phone or something - it's truly horrible.

Turn up the GH3 mixes, and it's great - it wants to go louder - it dares you to crank it up all the way until your ears bleed the way they're supposed to.

Death Magnetic is a great return to form, for those of us who judge Metallica by their music and not their often stupid actions - it could also be a great album, again, to those of us that like this sort of thing.

Not an expert, just someone who enjoys music. Don't mind me.

/fetches coat.

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172. Audio Pro writes:

Didn't read all the posts, but "Verse" has it wrong in post 24, that's not the problem. The album was simply over-maximized or "L2'd" to death, and that is why it sounds so compressed and so distorted, they went for a generally louder mix, but compromised sound quality. If you can't hear it, don't worry, it is because you probably are used to it nowadays, everything is maximized, or "slammed" and it sucks for music, but TV commercials love it. There is a remix floating around on the net that kicks the crap out of the original release. I thought it was funny that the band releases an album & a pirated remix outshines their best efforts, while Lars is sitting there saying there is no problem with the mix, yet the petition to remix has hit 13000 now & would grow more, except not too many people really care, now that they can download the better mix for free.

The Album was good, but the mix was high school amateur. I could do much better.

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