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Trivium Tagged As Revivalists and Plagiarists

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LESSON ONE for all aspiring bands out there: if you think you’re good, make sure you tell as many people as possible. Just ask Florida metallers Trivium.

When the quartet signed with Roadrunner in 2004, they supported the release of their second album Ascendancy with interviews in which they confidently voiced their desire to be one of the biggest bands in the world. Think Metallica, Megadeth and Slayer, they suggested, and one day you will also think Trivium.

Not surprisingly, the notoriously suspicious metal world reared back, took one look at the young upstarts - frontman Matt Heafy was all of 19 when he made the claim - and laughed. Until, that is, they heard Ascendancy and its classic thrash metal stylings, the likes of which turned them into genuine stars in the UK, where they recently performed in front of 80,000 people at the Download festival and supported Iron Maiden.

“All the other bands that were around and that were getting pretty stale were pretty shocked [by what we said],” Heafy says triumphantly. “But now they see we’re still around and hammering away, and all the disbelievers, they’re not really saying anything any more. We haven’t really seen anything negative since [just-released third album] The Crusade came out.”

Heafy’s first taste of metal came in 1998 when a friend gave the-then impressionable 12-year-old a copy of Metallica’s Black album. Amazed at its technicality, aggression and catchiness, he delved into the band’s back catalogue, devouring both it and any albums released by the band’s late-80s/early-90s thrash peers. Not surprisingly, when he started playing guitar and formed Trivium, what came out was a noise that owed a debt more to the bands of yesteryear than it did Korn, Deftones and Limp Bizkit.

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1. Diamond Oz writes:

Can I ask is this just here to cause another arguement between everyone on here?

# Jan 17, 2007 @ 1:21 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. dmasa writes:

probly and let me just start it....... 1)cocky fags 2) they forgot to mention the part where piss was thrown at them when they opened 4 maiden and 80,000 MAIDEN fans 3)r u f***in serious? years from now they will still just be that sh**ty metalcore band that stole metallicas sound and no 1 will remember.

# Jan 17, 2007 @ 3:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. metal2death writes:

this was only put on to piss people. everyone knows that trivium blows d***

# Jan 17, 2007 @ 3:45 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. 6-Wretched-6-Soul-6 writes:

Trivium are an embarressement to metal and no doubt some emo fags will start an arguement and we will have to annihilate the c***s.

# Jan 17, 2007 @ 4:17 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. RememberMetal? writes:

At Metalunderground we feel that every thread is posted with the hope of meaningless online confrontation....How else can one convince a stranger that their favorite band is total sh**?

Kidding..sorta.
I still stand by Trivium as a good "introductory to metal" band, especially for last two generations who had grunge, nu-metal and screamo dumped in their lap.

I feel lucky to have had Metallica, Megadeth and Slayer be highly visable when I was in grade school and Tool and Pantera when I was in middleschool and starting highschool.

It's hard to take someone whose been listening to pop radio all their life and hand them a copy of "Tomb of the Mutilated" and expect instant adortation....I laughed my a$$ off the first time I heard Deicide because at 11 years old; I wasnt ready for that yet. I couldnt and still don't take Deicide seriously because of it.

A true metal head in the making will find their way from Trivium, Killswitch, LOG and ShadowsFall to Behemoth, Meshuggah, Unlord, God Dethroned, PxDx, Zyklon etc....

Hell, I started with Aerosmith and AC/DC at age 3. If my parents can be trusted, I would bang my hands on the tray of my high chair and shake my head left and right.

# Jan 17, 2007 @ 4:17 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. Diamond Oz writes:

D'aww!

# Jan 17, 2007 @ 4:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. Loudawg writes:

Triviums first 2 albums were okay but that new one sounds like Sh@#, it sounds like an old metallica cd if metallica would have sucked. Its an insult to them and fuc@# their careers.

# Jan 17, 2007 @ 5:25 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. broken face writes:

trivium r fags end of story !!!!!!!!

# Jan 17, 2007 @ 5:32 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. metalmayhem writes:

everytime matt heafy opens his mouth, a horse should kick him in the balls.

# Jan 17, 2007 @ 6:44 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. RememberMetal? writes:

metalmayhem

you mean like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7X8abXU3oU

# Jan 17, 2007 @ 7:08 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. blakscorpion21 writes:

to post 5, you assume that everyone who gets into heavy metal will eventually "move up" to bands like deicide and cannibal corpse. i totally disagree with that, i have listened to metal for a long time and dont ever see myself listening to that. every time i listen to a cannibal corpse or similar bands i find myself laughing at how pathetic it is. the lyrics are terrible, the vocals suck, the guitars have no melody, and the drumming is just double base constantly. it is just my humble opinion that this music sucks balls, sure ill get flamed for that but i dont care. i prefer to listen to 80s thrash(slayer, kreator, metallica, exodus) modern american(log, trivium, all that remains) and european metal(in flames, children of bodom), some black metal(satyricon, emperor), and of course the classics like sabbath, priest, and maiden. listening to metal is not about "moving up" to more extreme bands, its about listening to music that you like.

rant over.

# Jan 17, 2007 @ 7:40 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. Cynic writes:

This article is PROPAGANDA and is obviously out of touch with the metal community.

"Don't, don't believe what you see
Don't, don't believe what you read
No!!!" - Max Cavalera

"Choice control
Behind propaganda
Poor information
To manage your anger" - Andreas Kisser

PS blakscorpion21, don't listen to Deicide and CC first, try mid period Death, Carcass, early Cryptopsy, Nile etc. CC and co are big names because of shock value and hence notoriety. Try the less beaten path and you may enjoy yourself.

# Jan 17, 2007 @ 7:57 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. RememberMetal? writes:

Cynic
It only comes off as pro-Trivium because it was lifted from another news site.

blakscorpion21
Moving up is not what I meant, though it is more or less what I said...

I find the whole Modern American Metal movement to be a boon to metal. Simply by existing, those bands provide an inroad for fans to discover bands that struggle to exist at all. Furthermore, I actually enjoy Shadows Fall and LOG.

Metal especially the darker, less polished stuff, is inherently difficult music.

It took a progression of understanding and appreciation for me to accept bands that made little or no use of melody or traditional song structures....Especially when my grasp of music was relegated to late 80's early 90's Mtv and rock radio.

I see Trivium as a good spring board because I'm watching my 14 year old cousen, who was into Korn and My Chemical Romance last summer, move in to Trivium and KSE over the holidays. He's now playing Dimmu Borgir and scaring the hell out of his parents.

He is also learning to read music and play piano and guitar.

s'funny stuff, especially since I'm being held accountable.

Taste is everything though and you make many great points.
I think the hardest pills to swallow in metal end up being the best ones. If I've learned anything about music in my 25 years it's that some of the best bands sounded like sh** to me the first time I heard them.

# Jan 17, 2007 @ 9:09 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. metal 'ed writes:

If your new to metal or believe everything you read you'd think trivium were the second coming.All these mall metal bands like trivium,avenged sevenfold,or bullet for my valentine have been hyped up in the english press and now the american press is having their turn.Nothing wrong with confidence but their interviews tell a different story,more like arrogant and egotistical.To compare themselves to the greats is a joke,these guys are posers and their music sucks.Leave it to the music business to throw crap at a wall and hope it sticks.

# Jan 17, 2007 @ 9:29 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. Cynic writes:

I definately agree with you post (I think I just wanted to use some classic Sep lyrics haha).

"If I've learned anything about music in my 25 years it's that some of the best bands sounded like sh** to me the first time I heard them."

Funny that eh? The first time I heard my (tied with Metallica) favourite band Cynic I just didn't get it. It was a year later that I decided to give them another spin and after 3 forced listens of an mp3 something clicked.

# Jan 17, 2007 @ 11:05 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. Cynic writes:

*your post RememberMetal?

# Jan 17, 2007 @ 11:06 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. Skript writes:

Remember metal. if your cuz was listening to my chemical romance you shouldn't of let him keep breathing :P

# Jan 17, 2007 @ 11:56 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. StabbingTheDrama writes:

Hey Skript, it seems that he's out of it so I think he'll be okay. :P

# Jan 18, 2007 @ 12:12 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. Alex.... writes:

Wow, ever since Trivium is mentioned on Metal Underground everyone starts to b*tch about who is better than who O.o that they wanna be just like Metallica and so on. If he was given a Metallica album at 12 and just loved it he obviously looked up to them and made an album that sounds close to Mett..., Nobody cares if you dont like it, dont listen to it and shut up.

# Jan 18, 2007 @ 10:18 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. Scorched_Earth writes:

I just want to know what kind of nasty bastard would wrap a ballon around his slong, pee in it, likely spill the urine on himself while tying it, travel with it-at the risk of it popping, go throught the trouble of sneak it past security, to get into a show and throw it at a band?!??! I wouldn't do that to Coldplay-and I HATE Coldplay (and any other mimic band-you hear that Oasis?...maybe they didn't hear me-anyway)-why would anyone do that!??! They're just a bunch of kids trying to make a living!

# Jan 18, 2007 @ 12:02 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. Diamond Oz writes:

Scorched Earth you've just found that kind of person... and he's posting this!

# Jan 18, 2007 @ 1:08 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. dmasa writes:

first they are a bunch of kids that are c***y and second u would b 2 big of a p***y 2 do it anyway

# Jan 18, 2007 @ 3:23 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. Scorched_Earth writes:

LOL! You are a man amoung men, Diamond Oz....Please tell me you would do it to Coldplay...

# Jan 18, 2007 @ 3:25 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. Diamond Oz writes:

Oh f*** yeah I would! At least Trivium have got some f***ing talent and to be fair Trivium aren't boring! Bands like Coldplay and Bloc Party are top of my list. Sorry dmsa but no I'm not. I've thrown a nice cold bottle of Diamond piss at HIM before. And they deserved it I think we can all agree on that! Who the f*** came up with the idea of putting HIM on after Anthrax? Bad idea!

# Jan 18, 2007 @ 3:38 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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25. RememberMetal? writes:

Trivium have alot going for them in terms of skill, their ideals and inspirtations. They just have some traits that are underdeveloped or just flat out suck (lyrics, some of the vocals, and being painfully derivative).

Trivium need to grow up a bit is all....I'm not at the point where I feel the need to catch them live or buy an album anywhere but the used rack, but I am cheering them on.

I'd like to think they could become a Metallica for their generation.....They're better at metal than A7X and MCR.

# Jan 18, 2007 @ 5:09 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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26. UNKNOWN writes:

TRIUVUM IGOT 1 of ur alumbums from christ (ember to inferno) And it sounds nothing like metalica. NOTHING LIKE METALICA aloth there not good i am aguring how they could be as remotly as closes a metilca mkay.

# Jan 18, 2007 @ 7:19 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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27. Lou Dawg writes:

Replying to that Alex... coment, you're an idiot, trivium's first 2 cds were good, but that new one sucks balls and you suck balls

# Jan 20, 2007 @ 5:19 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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28. Alex..... writes:

I dont like the new one that much either so f*** off

# Jan 22, 2007 @ 10:29 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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29. His_Own_Demise writes:

I think Trivium are just a bunch of rich ppl that all want money, glory and greed just like that band a dozen furies its like wtf with ppl these days with Trivium going all were death metal we do these solos I would love to see them pull of a show with a tribute to Death or something like that rather :D then after that they need to keep thier rears in gear for real shows instead of just blabbing about solos that dont even matter music is about passion not money

# Feb 7, 2007 @ 12:10 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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30. the antihippy writes:

^^ you could really use punctuation his_own_ demise.

trivium arent really that bad, their vocalist can actually sing pretty good. it's just that metalcore is such a boring genre. but each to his own i guess.

# Feb 7, 2007 @ 4:14 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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31. Scorpion69 writes:

question? If you had to listen to Trivium Or A7X which would you choose and neither is not a choice, however blow my brains out is an answer. and to post 5 LMAO!!! the first sentence sums it up

# Feb 7, 2007 @ 12:40 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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32. slayerdisciple writes:

i gurantee that everypost after mine would say trivium over a7x, i would pick trivium

# Feb 7, 2007 @ 2:03 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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33. Diamond Oz writes:

huh

# Feb 9, 2007 @ 8:07 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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34. ZT writes:

1998? damn, I just realized I've been listening to metal longer than this dude, and I'm YOUNGER than him!

# Feb 13, 2007 @ 7:32 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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35. ZT writes:

The Black album wasn't THAT technical. Just thought I'd point that out.

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