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Tool Frontman Puts Winery Business First

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World Entertainment News Network is reporting that TOOL frontman Maynard James Keenan is planning his touring schedule around his new vineyard's harvesting and bottling because he insists on being part of the process. The eccentric rocker launched Merkin Vineyards in Sedona, Arizona last year and his first attempt at winemaking, the limited edition Primer Paso, has been a sellout.

And now the wine connoisseur is hooked on his new hobby and insists on scheduling all records, promoting and touring around the winery's most important weeks.

He says, "The guys know that I've gotta be in Arizona for the harvesting and processing, and then I'll need to be back there again for the bottling. We'll be working our touring schedule around it."

Keenan plans to release a 2004 Nagual de la Naga and a 2004 Nagual del Sensei, as well as a new Primer Paso under his Caduceus Cellars trade name later this year.

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1. madmetalman writes:

puss eeeeeeee

# May 7, 2006 @ 10:47 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. RememberMetal? writes:

Wine is awesome...Wine hangovers are the worst though....Noone would call him a p***y if it were Scotch or Bourbon.

# May 8, 2006 @ 12:14 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. Scorched_Earth writes:

Ok-high end wine can go for up to $600 a bottle and he's a p***y for tapping that market??? Yea-he should have gone for Light Beer...

# May 8, 2006 @ 9:33 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. HolyShit writes:

yeah, he should make a fine red wine, like mad dog 20/20

# May 8, 2006 @ 10:42 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. razor writes:

what a fag

# May 8, 2006 @ 10:58 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. inhatredofme writes:

yea very intelligent, call someone a fag because they are running a business, making a ton of cash and all while still writing music and touring....yea what a dumb thing to do because money really sucks.

# May 8, 2006 @ 3:16 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. Scorched_Earth writes:

LOL-that rocked, inhatredofme, my thoughts exactly...

# May 8, 2006 @ 4:45 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. Night_terror987 writes:

well to tell you the truth...he should at least think about his music first than do all the other sh it later. Because the reason most of the world likes him for is for his music not because he created a fyckin wine. I'm not goign to say he is a pu$$y because making money is a good thing. But I will call him a pu$$y for deciding to create a wine that I will never buy. All I drink is liquor!!

# May 8, 2006 @ 5:20 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. Eschatological_Humor writes:

I love how simple people are, that the slightest notion of someone they idol interested in something that the 'hardcore' believes is lame or gay can incite hatred towards said person/artist because the ignorant sonofab**** wants to fit in to a certain category. I think as one becomes older and develops taste in more aesthetic arts; as their mental pallate can pick up more and more flavors of talent and intelligence, they begin and continue to discourage labels and niches, and most importantly, other people's opinions of themselves and their interests. I also think that the same can be said of these people that psychologists say about homophobes, which is that the one who openly and billigerantly bashes a certain group that they think is beneath them is really just trying to hide their blatent affinity for those people (or to draw attention from their membership tattoo). Anyone who knows anything beyond the lyrics, knows that Maynard is a fruity bastard to begin with. Let's be honest here, the guy has the right screws loose. He is extremely intelligent as far as I've seen, and also down to earth (I wonder if he's a Gemini...) which is a verbally lethal combination with an active and motivated mind. Now, I don't know the details of his winery entrapenuership, but I do know that you don't have to make $600 bottles of wine to make money. Infact, that's exactly the route you'd take if you wanted to throw away your life savings, because not everyone can afford that kind of coin. What makes a good wine? TASTE. Not reputation, not a fancy label, and not an ad campaign backed by Budweiser promising beautiful women and superhuman sex. My girlfriend and I spend no more than $14 for a 1.75liter (half gallon) which is right above that crap that Julio & Mason make on fifth ave. It's not Arbor Myst, and it's certainly not Don Juan Expensivo, but it tastes FANTASTIC and its a nice change from beer once in a while. I'll leave this dissertation at this: Those who know can't explain; those who don't cannot understand. All we can ever hope for is our individuality. There will be free microscopes at the door. Happy hunting.

# May 8, 2006 @ 5:21 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. Opeth Suck!!! writes:

I don't think it's stupid that he's doing it, I just think it's kinda weird that he's revolving his vineyard around his career.

# May 8, 2006 @ 6:06 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. Scorched_Earth writes:

Nicely put Eschatological_Humor. The $600 bottle was what one of my clients who's a collector had-something from 1982 (even he said it didn't taste like $600 worth-LOL).

It's so weird that anyone COULD have a problem with this...! The guy just turned 40, Tool only puts out 1 record every 5 years-maybe he wants to have other intrest-why would anyone fault him for that?

I guess if you've bought the myth of the rock stars who immediately is rich forever because he put out a record-or even better, the rock star who shows up in someones where are they now file and everyone laughs-that idea that his only station in life is to entertain you. Maybe he has other interest...why is that wrong?

I can't believe anyone would call someone a 'fag' (or anything else) because they are trying to make a successful business...?

# May 8, 2006 @ 6:54 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. jnsguts writes:

i agree with ya'll eschat & scorched. the music industry is fickle, at best, and you have to have other projects on the back burner, just in case. as for splitting the winery responsibility with touring, i'm of like mind, if you want to be sure sh** gets done right, you got to have an active part in doing it, and if that means comprimising and scheduling so that you can still be a part of both, then so be it. and if some people can't deal with that, oh well. don't hate on someone who is doing what they feel thay have to do because it does'nt set with standards you hold them to, instead of standards he holds himself to. and really, if you had a chance to talk with maynard face to face, and you said "f*** your wine, you got to put out more music because it's what I want you to do, what do you think he'd say?? HIMMM!!!!

# May 8, 2006 @ 7:31 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. kale writes:

f*** him, he's a p***y. The first post was right. f*** him right in the ear with a big rubber d***.


p***y

# May 8, 2006 @ 11:24 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. in F U C K I N G flames writes:

I really could care less what he does with his spare time. All I give a sh** about is that his album comes out on time (which it did), that I get that album (which I did), and that his tour comes to my town (which I'm not sure about, I'll have to check on, but I'll be really f***ing p***ed if it doesn't). Maynard can do whatever the f*** he wants in my opinion as long Tool keeps putting out killer material. I can even tolerate the 5-year interludes.

# May 9, 2006 @ 12:11 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. RememberMetal? writes:

Anyone who thinks anything negatively about this is shortsighted and childish.

Tool isn't going to be around forever....

Maynard himself says he can't picture himself prancing around the stage like geriatric peacock(*cough*Mick Jagger*hack-cough*)...pardon....

When Tool is finished ( I give them one more album tops) Keenan will need other projects and not all (maybe any of them) will be music. I drink Makers Mark, Crown Royal and various brand of Scotch almost exclusively but I'm prone to getting a glass of Reisling from time to time....Anyone who dosn't see the good in wine as an intoxicant is obviously still caught up in shots og Jager and warm beer big brother bought for them.

If I had the capitol to start a whiskey or Bourbon industry I would but I'd rather be an author....

That probably wont't be happening. But I if I were to become Stephen King I probably would at least entertain the idea of having my own Bourbon distillery.

So Maynard likes wine....

# May 9, 2006 @ 1:37 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. psythe writes:

still havnt acquired a taste for wine, but my first thoughts when i read this was "awesome!", not "wine? that's gay! shut up and sing already!". i dont think i could respect myself if i said something like that. and yeah, if i had the capitol, i would more than likely start my own irish scotch whiskey brand. just for the fun of trying to get the whiskey just the way i like it. beer's terrible, jager's ok, bundaberg rum kicks arse, and i could drink vodka or tequila till sunrise (dont like drinking in the daytime). whiskey's still my favourite beverage, though.

# May 9, 2006 @ 4:13 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. RememberMetal? writes:

amen brother psythe!

# May 9, 2006 @ 4:31 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. |DimmuBurger| writes:

Tool !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Priest !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

# May 9, 2006 @ 10:01 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. jim writes:

it all makes sense to me. tool is a sort of rock you need to use your brain to understand and enjoy. a good wine is something you need time and a some what intelegent tounge to enjoy. the fact that he's picky about specific parts of the proces shows dedication to a final product.

# May 9, 2006 @ 4:10 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. BodomFan writes:

damn straight, people shouldnt hate on Maynard cause he makes wine. i think thats badass, if you can make great music and have other buisness on the side, why the
f*ck not?

# May 9, 2006 @ 6:03 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. JT writes:

Check out the website (http://www.caduceus.org). Very cool stuff. I'm into white wines right now...just cause it's so damn hot...and it's kind of refreshing...but if I could get my hands on some of this, I'd pick it up. The cellar isn't but 10 hour drive for me...maybe a summer trip.

# May 9, 2006 @ 6:28 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. bassmaster! writes:

that's f***ed up! what a sell out choosing wine over his band and fans. I am a BIG TOOL fan and I think this is the gayest thing I have heard! TOOLS concert tix are over priced too! that pisses me OFF!

# May 9, 2006 @ 7:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. RememberMetal? writes:

selfish ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

# May 9, 2006 @ 8:46 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. JT writes:

correct ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

# May 9, 2006 @ 9:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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25. jnsguts writes:

damn, post 22, why is it so hard to see that he's not selling out, he's protecting interests. he could have said to hell with touring or recording until the harvest was over, but he didn't, he comprimised in order to do all, spending an equal amount of time with each. any one with even a little sense would see that he's putting forth the effort.

# May 9, 2006 @ 10:08 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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26. jnsguts writes:

damn, i forget to HIMMM!!!!

# May 9, 2006 @ 10:08 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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27. psythe writes:

say Maynard were making the wine in order to make more capitol to support the band, hmm? what then, bassmaster? is it still 'gay' or 'selling out' then? is it still 'fvcked up'? you need to relax, dude. and as for ticket price, i live in Australia and we hardly EVER get a good tour come this way. i would pay my entire family for just ONE ticket to a Tool concert.

# May 9, 2006 @ 11:36 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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28. BiC writes:

i think im gonna go make some wine and spike it with LSD

# May 10, 2006 @ 5:34 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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29. Eschatological_Humor writes:

Wow, I have to be honest. I'm just not used to intelligent or rational people on a metal site. I'm not saying they don't exist, because obviously they do (you know who you are, and thanks for the likemindedness), I am just pointing out the overabundance of adolescent thinking that litter chatboards and chatrooms alike. Just to add my cent to the already-stated, anyone who thinks that music is an artists entire life is probably 46-34=. They are obviously not aware that the human brain is unique because it can multitask and plan ahead.The must also not be able to comprehend that one day their very own little brain might want to do something other than pose as a douchebag for their spinal cord. I'm sure that one day (like 40 years from now) when they're alllllll growed up and moved out of mommy and dada's house, they'll want to get a job, maybe even venture into some form of entrepenueralship(i know i spelled that wrong, but I don't have time to spell check before this thought leaves me....by the way, that word means 'work for yourself') and get out of the 'Man's' pocket, like any self-respecting American should. I've gone off on a tangent here, but the fact remains: the guy in question is getting old, and I agree, probably has one good album left in him. I mean hell, he's doing APC at the same time, cut the dude some slack children. Things don't magically appear on shelves for your overconsumption. They take hard work, dedication, confidence, and patient fans. Not to mention the f***ing cutthroat politics in the music industry. I'd like to see the ones saying that the only thing that matters is that TooL puts out an album every year for their enjoyment put their thoughts, feelings, and hard work; the day after day practice, the recording, the editing, the adjusting, and the lack of a social life outside of said career, and then see how you feel when you get pennies on the dollar for each cd sold, specially now that you can download it for free these days. Tell me you'd be content with b****y fans and a 3% cut on your music sales and I'll chop my balls off and mail them to you. You know nothing. You are a sheep. Think for yourself. And try, try, OH try! to use that mystery sponge for something other than sopping up chemical waste and pornography. Again, I'm really glad to see that there are more thinkers on this subject than children.

# May 10, 2006 @ 5:40 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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30. spinaltat writes:

I absolutely agree with Eschatological and a few of you other sensible people. I cannot believe that people are bad mouthing the poor man. He is a man first with a life and an icon second. have any of you selfish people in parts on this thread actually thought that he is trying to protect his finances to make a good life for his son.... no probably not cause that would be using your brain wouldn't it

# May 11, 2006 @ 4:20 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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31. Scorched_Earth writes:

Nicley put Eschatological_Humor, some of the post are obvilously from children or people who think 'rockstar' means that you live in a castle that pays for itself. I actually wonder what the other guys in Tool do for money-they are pretty inactive....merchandise can only go so far....

# May 11, 2006 @ 5:52 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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32. slayerdisciple writes:

thats pretty cool tho im 16 and cant drink it (legally anyway) but all the people rippin on him for doin wat he wants to do is ridiculous how would u like it if u were a big time musician and bein criticized for doin somethin outside of music, jesus its just wine no need to get all p***ed bout it

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33. bassmaster! writes:

I just think hisband should be his main focus. I got a little caryed away on my last post. he isent a sell out TOOL is a good band, but I think he is chooseing his wine over his band.

# May 11, 2006 @ 7:24 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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34. Scorched_Earth writes:

bassmaster! -

Who are we to judge that? If he wants to put his business ahead of his band, he can do that! We as fans lose nothing. My overall point is that it's his life, he has put out a product that we enjoy-we don't own him and he owes us nothing. If Tool never drops another record, what is he supposed to do? The wine company is his retirement and yes, it has to be more important than Tool cos Maynard has a kid to feed. Remeber 'Hooker with a p***s'? He was dead on with that one...

All we really know about him is what he's sold us...

# May 11, 2006 @ 9:55 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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35. Linkin Park Killa writes:

Don't hate the dude for having another passion other than music. He's not going to still be singing at the age of 60. Plus he did his job for us by putting out a f***in album. Enjoy the album and shut the f*** up!

# May 12, 2006 @ 2:44 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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36. Eschatological_Humor writes:

Damn Scorched_Earth, I was going to put that last line in my last post, 'All we really know about him is what he's sold us..." but I got so carried away with the rest of my rant and forgot. I got a little split in my side reading it though, awesome! And hooker with a p***s, indeed. I'm glad to see that there are at least a handful of people willing to show their intelligence on this subject, or at least not bash the guy for being human. Funny how the people that posted all that stuff about Maynard being a p***y and how wine sucks and basically what got us all on this rantage haven't posted again, yet. They had a lot to say, they had a lot of nothing to say, we'll miss 'em. So to add the last comment I have on this already exhausted and slightly frustrated, not to mention sad slew of rhetoric thus, I'll leave it at this:

FUUUUUUUUUCK YOU BUDDY, FUUUUUUUUUCK YOU BUDDY
(of course to the children who think that TooL is their personal jester)

# May 12, 2006 @ 5:02 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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37. bradispissed writes:

i honestly could give a rats a$$ about maynards personal life...


although he should focus on his current employment and cater to the people who make his wine business possible


and it's now official: tool fans f***ing wig me out. creepy lot you twats are

# May 12, 2006 @ 5:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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38. RememberMetal? writes:

your one of us if memory serves brad....

If you appreciate Tool you almost have to be mentally ill. It's a prerequisite....

# May 12, 2006 @ 5:50 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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39. bradispissed writes:

i quit the addiction long ago


i stop when the music does...

# May 12, 2006 @ 7:12 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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40. Eschatological_Humor writes:

And now we know why record companies are allowed and sadly encouraged to continue promoting and birthing one hit wonders. Fly-by-night passengers such as bradisp***ed on the 'gimme-more' section of the 'i-love-goo goo dolls express'. I hate fans.

# May 13, 2006 @ 7:30 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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41. Holcroni... writes:

Eschatological_Humor needs to go outside and throw a ball around... dude, this is the net, let people have their meaningless (Sp?) rants....

# May 13, 2006 @ 9:19 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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42. bradispissed writes:

i guess this pissant isn't aware of who the f*** he is judging...if you've purchased and/or supported the music community even as half assed as i have i would at least respect your idiocy.

i've driven a hundred miles to see an opeth show. i own mulitple split 7" lp's from bands that would offend a mongoloid like yourself by name alone. i support new releases from bands like enslaved, gojira, necrophagist, vital remains...etc by actually purchasing them.

and it's not just metal. i paid 60 dollars to buy the vinyl for lateralus after it went out of print.


and some dime a dozen jackass with a hard-on for tool (a band whose music i actually love) is going to generalize me as a kdfm hits radio station junkie...go f*** yourself.

we share opinions here regardless of the occasional pretentious d*** stain's narrow minded point of view. mine aren't like yours because mine are rational.


you know f*** about music.

# May 13, 2006 @ 9:41 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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43. holcroni writes:

wow, listen to bradisp***ed, sounds like someone takes himself a little too seriuosly. Please remember, everyone is a critic, so are you, nobody is right or wrong is the world of musical interpretation, now go outside and get some fresh air.

# May 13, 2006 @ 11:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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44. slayerdisciple writes:

just got the new album it is f***in sweet lateralus is still my fav

# May 14, 2006 @ 12:30 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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45. Eschatological_Humor writes:

<;---critic

# May 14, 2006 @ 9:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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46. Eschatological_Humor writes:

It's been raining for a week. Not usually fair frisbee weather in New England. *wink*

I think we've all lost the point of the initial thread, which is that artists, and even famous artists have other interests besides pleasing us at every sounding of the prayer bell, and when their artistic steam begins to show signs of dillution, they might decide to seek out the profit in those interests to secure their future. For instance, I read years ago that Maynard, pre-Tool, had a Feng Shui business in LA. Fact is, younger minds usually cannot comprehend this fact of life due to experience, or lackthereof. Opeth for example, specifically Mikael Åkerfeldt, is now after all this time seeking a side project (and for anyone who's read this site in the last month) with Dream Theater). I believe music is an outlet, an extreme place for one to go and vent out all creative frustration; to let their soul speak in ways their pragmatic mind could never allow. Viva Reverie! My initial posting to this topic was to educate the little ones of this fact, and add a little 'heads up' to them that life is about to become complicated, and will never cease its tangled web of a course until the breath becomes a corpse. I, too, take my rationale seriously. I see things as I know them - cynically. People see an artist. I see someone who is ALSO artistic. Usually artistry duals intelligence, or is a result of.
bradisp***ed, I'd like to say that I understand that the net is a strange beast, and that plain text, without the yahoo smileys, is entirely difficult to properly digest and emotionalize, therefore, I may have taken your last comment before my bashing out of context (pun intended), and for that I apologize. It's no easy task discussing opinions when everyone is all p***ed off, and honestly, I'd rather have just that - a discussion. I don't necessarily agree with everything your last comment implied, but that is what's so wonderful about the human brain; individuality. Anyway, I have some new cd's to listen to.

By the way, anyone who hasn't heard One Man Army and the Undead Quartet should buy their album immediately and play it at high volume, preferably in a residential area.

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47. icecoldtoolfan writes:

tool is the sh** and as for manyard he really brings us some of the most amazing sh** we've ever heard jus to read that even one lazy motherfcuker can say sh** about someone they admire is beyond me but manyard keep doin your thing and most of all everybody jus keep rockin

# May 21, 2006 @ 8:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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48. killingtime420 writes:

To respond to multiple posts:

#42 - being such a fan of music, you like many of us self-proclaimed, should know that the real money isn't in a record sale, it's in the touring profits. Record purchases don't help a metal band for sh**. Because both you and I know that despite the wave of popularity it's receiving - it's still a floundering genre in respect to the pop-bullsh** that's all over the radio.
How much do you think your record purchases of Enslaved and / or Necrophagist albums helped them? I'm going to bet very, very minimally. Odds are they still have to hold down day jobs. The music is a hobby, the way it should be (read some Adam Smith - especially stuff about productive and unproductive labor).
Also your "holier than thou" attitude... that should really be dropped. Unless, of course, you wish to come off as a prick.
And it's KMFDM - "Kein Merheit Fur Die Mitleid" (No majority for the pity - nonsensical, yes).

Esch. Humor - you seem like a rather intelligent person. I've nothing negative to say in regards to your posts. They're well thought through. I especially like that comment about becoming older and witnessing your palate broaden in regards to aesthetics. Very nice, very true.

Wine is good. If he made a Pinot Grigio, or a similar type of white wine I'd drink it, no qualms, no matter.

Sometimes I think the problem is that people create (or are force-fed) celebrities, these persons become cast into a particular mold (like many of those in a romantic relationship), and if that person were to change or express an interest in something that was far-removed from what you had once thought they were - you get p***ed. So what Maynard likes making wine? So what he likes to drink it also, I'm betting?
#6 nailed it - "money sucks". Sarcastic as it may be, it's also true. We need that means of exchange, people are corrupted by it, people consider it their "god", will kill for it, will break themselves morally for it.... we're of a pathetic lot.


So here's what you do! Don't IDOLIZE. People are people are people are unpredictable and f***ed up.

And news, hell... don't get me started on the garbage the paparattzi manage to gather. Belive little of what you see and even less of what you hear. A skeptical disposition may serve you well in life.

Pardon my ramblings.
I've had a few.

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49. psythe writes:

well said.

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50. Eschatological_Humor writes:

Good show, touching on things that had yet been left out, killingtime. I love the phrase 'far removed' used as an adjective. Really puts the context on the head of a pin; undeniable description. I think you're right on all fronts there - I caught the elitism from #42 as soon as he mentioned obscure bands. Everyone has what they consider 'obscure' artists in their collection. I could, and so could half the people in here, name a handful of bands that the other half would have never heard of otherwise. What about Einstürzende Neubauten? Anyone ever heard of them? God, there is so much damn music out there, and no one will be able to name it all, or own it all. I tried, trust me. lol. And as long as there are options in the music world, there will exist these subcultures and rivalries. And for some reason, fans take on this (as killingtime put it) holier than thou attitude, like there's a prize waiting at death for the guy with the most hardcore collection of artists. Yea, there is a prize...it's called death. And everyone wins. If you want to see a sad example of elitism, log in to a Metal chat room in Yahoo, and just watch. Watch the levels of this digital caste system fluctuate and the energies explode. If you own anything close to an objective perspective, you will be able to pick out the elites and the young kids, the noobies and the wise who truly discuss music at its core, not a bunch of textheads shouting, 'Pudvayne sucks!' 'metal is gay!' Trust me, I've spent far too much time rotting in those rooms. It's a little embarassing actually. I guess what I'm saying is that music is something that hits the human being on so many levels; you have the auditory, which transcends to the soul; you reflect the message and there is a connection; you see the band live and there is breathed life upon screaming word, and you love them, you hate them, you want to be them. There is a complex identity you share with artists whom you love, and it evolves as such to become a belief. And we all know what the true nature of beliefs are.
For those who don't, there is a quote that I've ammended to suit my life, and its this: "If you want to keep friends, never discuss politics, religion, or music". And for that simple reason, they are all beliefs. You cannot discourage one's belief, but an idea, a thought; maliable. Beliefs are what keep us moving forward; beliefs are what hold us back. We as a people need to learn to pick and choose our beliefs as well as dictate within ourselves, which ones of those are expendable, which ones matter most, and which ones are holding us back. I'm really sick and tired of tradition and fads, and I'm REALLY just bored with everyone wanting to be better than everyone else. It's a ridiculous race, and no matter what, you will never be the man. There will always be someone above you that you have to answer to. Maybe that's where the fervor stems from, the sense of being held down, I don't know. Just be happy with yourself and keep your aura thin enough to invite friendlies in, and thick enough to keep the snakes out, keep the metal playing, but never, NEVER stop thinking. It's all we have left in this world.

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51. psythe writes:

excellent post - but damn, dude. use paragraphs!!!

# May 25, 2006 @ 9:18 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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52. Panteralizton writes:

I'm a creepy Tool fan, not obsessive, just creepy, and yes the new album is pretty f***in' awesome.

# May 25, 2006 @ 9:30 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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53. Incredible Holt writes:

In regards to post 50...I took a psychology course in college that touched on the way the brain reacts to certain stimuli. Spoken word stimulates certain parts of the brain while instrumental sound(music) stimulates others. When you place them together and create a song with lyrics, your brain is all over the map with sparks and stimulation. Like life, music seems to find a way...as if it were meant to be. There is more to it than just playing instruments and singing. I think it goes far deeper than that. Just try to imagine a world without music. It's terrifying. All of this may be common sense but I just thought it was pertinent.

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54. psythe writes:

it's kind of common sense, but i don't think anyone else would have been able to explain it quite so well. and 10K Days is a winner of an album.

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55. RememberMetal? writes:

I like it but I definitely prefer most of their other albums, theres just certain aspects of it that rub me the wrong way vs Aenima, Lateralus and Opiate....all three of which I find to be very focused and essentially perfect albums....Not so with 10K Days but it's still a good record with a few excellent songs.

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56. Eschatological_Humor writes:

RememberMetal?, I share that chafing feeling. Like I said to my girlfriend, the new album sounds like old TooL nostalgia layered on top of Lateralus during an APC hangover. And not the good APC; it's the eMotive APC, which is lacking, to say the least. And yes, I understand that it's a cd full of covers, plus a remix and an original, but personally, I like the original vs. 'Counting bodies like sheep to the rhythm of the war drums', and I don't like that when I listen to 'Passive', the only thing going through my head is "Damn, Trent Reznor just can't get away from simple lyrics, can he?" I don't know, it's just getting old. I like the guy, but the same sits with NIN. Older is better. I'm not against bands getting to their happy spot and telling the world about how wonderful it is to be them, because change is the essential human element seperating us from common beast, but it is sad for us fans to hear a good band go bad. I've said it before in so many words, that it's not really about us, it's about them, and I stick with that. Good for Trent that he's older now and happy, wealthy, and the same for Maynard now that he's finally venturing into some of his pallatatious hobbies, doing the wine thing, and winding Tool down so that it's not a sudden STOP. Ease is the best form of change. Evolution at work. Very respectable.

I can handle the new album, and there are probably 4 songs I can really get into because the music is undeniably Tool. It F-N rocks. The lyrical content however, is not quite as subtle or creative for a Tool Song. More current events related, which is....definitely not original.

Incredible Holt, have you ever watched that show Angel? I watched the last season of it because I was living with a fan of the show, and ended up getting into it. You just reminded me of something. Well, if you haven't seen it, there is a green demon, who is an ally of Angel, and his 'special power' is that he can see directly into peoples soul. Read them like book, but only if they sing. Most of the time he's hanging out in karaoke bars. That's what I always think of when I think of heartfelt music, or music that we can relate to as an individual.
Someone put their soul, their bare, naked soul into their art, and had the balls to share with the world. And we listen to this music, we hear it, feel it, breathe it, and we are enamoured by it, and I tend to wonder, do I share something with the artist? Is there a common fiber we share, and underlying thread of similarity that binds us? And then I understand why it is that everyone takes a personal hit when someone that doesn't like that particular band says so boldly. Because in a way, they are being insulted as well, and the fight or flight mechanism kicks in. And here we have the structure for this and millions of other debating threads.

Enough paragraphs?
*chuckling*

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57. Incredible Holt writes:

Hey Eschatological, I'd like to thank you for teaching me a new word. The complexities and hierarchies of theology never cease to amaze me. I never have watched Angel enough to understand what is going on but I do remember surfing the airwaves and seeing the green demon you mentioned. I get enough of the WB network when my wife makes me watch Charmed (so I let her think as I am checking out Alyssa Milano..just kidding, my wife knows that Milano is on "the list"). I like the thought put into the green demon character from your description.

I sum up 10K days by saying that Vicarious, Jambi, the Pot, Rosetta Stoned and Right in Two are masterpieces. Gotta go...closing time...get back to you later

# May 26, 2006 @ 5:33 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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58. bradispissed writes:

i have to take the 10,000 days side of this and say that musically i don't think undertow era riffing could've been blended more masterfully together with the ambient sounds of the latter albums. i think this album is top notch and damn near perfection. it maintains the edge that lateralus kinda lost (save for ticks and leeches) with the atmosphere of an aenima. it's brilliance is within the fact that songs like rosetta stoned and the pot are so different from anything previously released but sound so greatly signature. i think this album is perfectly balanced


as far as the lyrical content. i much rather prefer the lyrics to the opiate/undertow days of the more radical tool. the abstract imagery of aenima and lateralus were blatant attempts at a piper at the gates of dawn style. i thought syd barret was writing the lyrics to most of lateralus. he keeps his words grounded but still makes you think outside of the box which is what takes his lyrical ability to a whole new level. personally i can't stand the mindf*** bullsh** lyrics like in the grudge. my favourite lyricists have always found a way to express their point without trying as hard as possible to be deeper than the next song. cantrell, cornell, patton, anselmo, vedder...etc.

# May 26, 2006 @ 6:15 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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59. killingtime420 writes:

Damn, now this is how music should be discussed.
After wading through the sh**-talking, elitist simpletons the water is clear and freedom exists to cover all aspects positive and negative of a particular work. Hopefully some idiot doesn't come in with his three word, syntactically and/or semantically incorrect phrase "tool sux u r gay".
I have a theory... keep the posts long and simple minds will be deterred from attempting to read them. Or maybe make them short and complex so as to make the intricasies ungraspable....

To #53 (in regards to #50): to dig deeper.
Spoken word involves at the very least three particular cortical structures and their associated pathways: Broca's Area, Wernicke's (Ver-nick-ah) Area, and the Arcuate Fasciculus.
Broca's Area is primarily for producing speech, it is closely positioned by the motor cortex at the dorsal side of the frontal lobe above the lateral sulcus (auditory cortex). Damage to it is, however, inconsequental to motor tasks associated with speaking (ex: writing is unchanged).
Wernicke's Area is used for understanding the speech or sounds others produce. Located partially in the parietal lobe, and partially in the temporal lobe at the dorsal end of the auditory strip.
The Arcuate Fasciculus is the go between, transcortically tying the two together.

Sight reading music (the speech centers are quite a bit related to reading, but that gets broken into whole word recognition and phonetic reading, yadda-yadda) involves a visual cortex and the left (dominant in language also) occipital-parietal cortex. When visual info is associated to auditory info the aforementioned stimulated areas expand on PET's, fMRI's / MRI's or other mechanisms used for measuring cortical activation.

All of this plus the Limbic system (for the subjective experience of emotion produced by either the music or the lyrics), plus probably a hundred other little neural pathways such as the motor skills, muscle memory and tonus to actually play an instrument agglomerate into a handy little package, which as stated - we seem to be fitted for.

Esch.H. (#50): Were you once a philosopher?
Death: the ultimate prize. A place in the dirt, where nothing matters anymore, not even ones extensive collection of "good" (ahem) music.
I enjoyed your adopted mantra. Religion is probably the worst thing to talk about w/ anybody (yet it's done in philosophy all the time... ), politics... we'll since nearly everyone hates Bush I guess there's common-ground for b****ing and agreeing (I didn't vote, so I will do neither. I have not the right) and music: who's better than who, and because I listen to them does that make me better than you? No.
How we love to bicker over the most insignificant things.
There seems to be a fading sense of empathy ("I like... oh, you like... that's cool. I don't though" - then you explain). Maybe people think that if they tried to explain it cooly and rationally they'd be ridiculed. It's as if everybodies one word discription of themselves is "unique" and no one could ever understand why.

I also note that you're a fellow New Englander. Salud!!! *raises glass of scotch*

As for the album: I had it for maybe 3 days, then let a friend borrow it, and haven't gotten it back, thus I'm not too familiar with it yet. My comments upon this topic shall be suspended until the time has become appropriate.

Pardon the long-winded post.
Hopefully it was somewhat informative.

# May 26, 2006 @ 7:57 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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60. Incredible Holt writes:

**********Entertainment Poll (just for $hits & giggles)**********
Top 2 albums all time:
1.TOOL - Ænima
2.Pink Floyd - Darkside of the Moon

Top 2 lyrics from said albums above (respectively):
1."I'm praying for rain! (Ænima)
2."The sun is the same in a relative way but your older (Time)"

Top 2 horror movies all time:
1.TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE
2.Evil Dead I & II, Halloween, Phantasm (I know, I cheated)

Top 2 guitarists all time:
1.SRV
2.Hendrix

Top 2 drummers all time:
1.Neil Peart
2.Danny Carey

Top 2 vocalists all time:
1.Maynard
2.Layne Staley

Best MMA fighter:
1.Wanderlei Silva (the axe murderer)
2.Bas Rutten

That's it for now...feel free to carry this on or add to the list.

# May 31, 2006 @ 12:53 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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61. bradispissed writes:

all i have to say is that freddie mercury and chris cornell are so far beyond any other vocalist in the history of the rock genre that you should be castrated for putting maynard above them.

best rock album is definitely between zeppelin IV and who's next.

best horror movie has got to be cannibal ferox and/or jacobs ladder.


best drummer is buddy rich


god damn dude you just put a bunch of pop culture bullsh** on your list

# May 31, 2006 @ 2:01 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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62. Incredible Holt writes:

Jacob's Ladder? you've got to be kidding me. That's not even horror...it's sci-fi. And if Texas Chainsaw is pop culture, then Jacob's Ladder is yesterdays news. Tim Robbins naked in a tub, ooohhh, scary.

I'm with you on Cornell, I altenate between ranking him and staley (who have more raw talent while Maynard has a great vocal style). I'm partial to TOOL so that's that....but Freddie Mercury? How is that not pop? One catchy jingle after another. Did i mention GAY!!!

I was contemplating the who and zep IV (by far their best) as well but i happened to list MY favorites. So, my point is that I am not too far off from your list.

So thanks for the castration Brad-piss-pants. Go jump in an ice bath with Freddie Mercury if that's your cup of tea. Or maybe start ranting and raving about more obscure bands that noone gives 2 sh!ts about to make yourself look more knowledgable. I think your just compensating for your short-comings personally. Come back when your balls drop piss-pants. Did I say piss-pants yet?

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63. psythe writes:

dude, have some respect - Freddy Mercury was literally a musical genius - and that's not a personal opinion, either. here's a personal opinion: Freddy Mercury had one of the best, if not the stand-alone best voice out there, in any style of music. Bohemian Rhapsody alone clearly proves that. and sure, the guy was gay - whoop-de-doo. hooray for caring. I don't. As for Cornell, I'm not a fan of Audioslave, simply because I think Cornell ruined the style that Rage had going so well. But he's out of this world in Soundgarden. And Maynard is one of my favourite current singers. No, scrap that, he IS my current favourite singer. I love the old bastard.

I didn't find Texas Chainsaw OR Jacob's Ladder particularly scary at all. Though, does a Horror movie necessarily have to scare? the name "Horror movie" suggests that it simply evokes horror, and it is quite possible to be horrified but not scared. So perhaps Bradisp***ed didnt mean Jacob's Ladder was 'scary' in the way that current hollywood "horror" movies are supposed to be scary (btw, they'r not - completely predictable).

# May 31, 2006 @ 4:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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64. Incredible Holt writes:

I like bohemian as much as the next guy but you can't tell me that it does not fall into the category of pop culture which makes brad a hypocrite. I do respect his vocal range and creativity and blah, blah, blah.

Check my posts, I'm not one to go blog bashing but this brad cat just likes to stir the pot and i was having a little fun.

Can we please stop elaborating on Freddie Mercury. Anyone could fill this page with a list of "musical geniuses" so lets jump off the label wagon.

"Nothing really matters, anyone can see..."
How's that for respect?

I was just goofing around with the list while I was at work. No need to be high strung.

Just wondering, has anyone seen a TOOL show outside as well as in an arena? Completely different shows. Outside seems like a magically raw TOOL circus while the arena show takes on a more intimate approach. Is that the same elsewhere?

# May 31, 2006 @ 4:52 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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65. bradispissed writes:

wow...i guess these bands our obscure to you but actually common knowledge to people who have progressed past their mickey mouse drum kit and kdge radio station.


your musical idiocy is stunning. no understanding of technique, pitch, or vocal control. but whoa dude did you hear cold and ugly, maynard can really belt it out.


if you really had the slightest clue of musicanship your list wouldn't appear as if it was taking off of i love the f***ing 90's...pretentious twat

# May 31, 2006 @ 5:26 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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66. Incredible Holt writes:

Wow piss-pants, you must have been typing fast because most of your post was illegible. Did I get to you that bad?

Your such a f*cking hypocrite guy. You boast about pop culture while stroking Queen who sold out to Wayne's World. At least you don't see TOOL doing American Idol or lending tracks to "pop culture" movies.

Also, you go on and on about ambient this and masterful that when describing TOOL in your posts above but then blast Maynard every chance you get. You've got issues piss-pants.

I love the 90's huh? I seem to recall that Texas Chanisaw was released in 1974...Darkside of the moon in 1973...then there is Hendrix and Rush...need I go further. Time for mommy to change your diaper piss-pants. Pardon me while I look up "idiocy" and "musicanship" Johnny trembles.

# May 31, 2006 @ 5:52 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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67. psythe writes:

he's not blasting Maynard. he's saying there's better singers out there. he's saying Maynard's not quite as good in his opinion (however learned that may be) as in yours (see other brackets).

# May 31, 2006 @ 6:40 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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68. jnsguts writes:

hmmmmmm, should i or shouldn't i???? i'll reserve my judgement for a while....lol.....HIMMM!!!!

# May 31, 2006 @ 8:14 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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69. RememberMetal? writes:

Incredible Holt

Brad sort of lives up to his name from time to time so you have to excuse him.

He picks on your love of the ninties but then some of his favorites lyricists (cantrell, cornell, patton, anselmo, vedder...etc) are very much of the 90's.....

There are indeed "better" vocalists than Keenan...who is a favorite of mine.....but there should be a sharper context for -better- before you 2 start tearing eachothers flesh off....As you're both very bright, informed and clearly capable of ripping eachother new a$$holes until your both covered in them.

There are dozens upon dozens of opera singers that could embarass any of our favorite singers.....But they don't exactly sing songs like "Prison Sex", "Rusty Cage" or "Midlife Crisis"....or "f***ed with a Knife" for that matter..heh.

My favorite vocalist you ask, why that would be Seth Putnam of Anal c***.....kidding....sort of.

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70. psythe writes:

hahahah, Putnam is a crazy motherfvcker! I love how much he proactively sets out to be offensive, whereas most bands will do anything to come off as inoffensive. which is good proof for why major record labels suck.

my favourite singer is

- wait for it -

i'll give you some clues;
fantomas
peeping tom
mr bungle
faith no more
tomohawk...


did you get it yet?

# May 31, 2006 @ 9:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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71. RememberMetal? writes:

I've said it a million times, and I shall echo it now: "Mike Patton is not of this world"....

No mere earthling can do what it is he does....On any level.

I'm not so much into Peeping Tom though I must admit I've only heard some of the songs once....I'm on pins and needles for the next goddamn Tomahawk though and I happen to KNOW that the guitarist has written a million songs for Patton and the rest of the band to sift through.

Wish there was a way of knowing the progress with them at this moment.

# May 31, 2006 @ 9:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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72. psythe writes:

yeah, if I had been listing his bands in preferred order, Peeping Tom would have come in last.

the next Tomohawk is going to be AMAZING. i don't need any article from you lot to tell me that. although, I would LOVE for one of you to randomly post "Tomohawk Release Date: One Week" or something right now. I think I would actually literally orgasm. spontaneously.

# Jun 1, 2006 @ 6:41 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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73. Incredible Holt writes:

RememberMetal - Thanks for breaking the monotony. I can't ignore hypocricy, e.g. my previous jabs at brad (he drew first blood).

I'm right there with you on your opera analogy. I like the way you think. Maybe my list would have been categorized more accurately by claiming "FAVORITE vocalist" because that is where I was going. Semantics really. I've never been too big on labels. I think they're tearing this world apart. Never did any good for race, religion or politics. The more we label something, the more we divide sides which puts one on the defensive. Once you label something, it just IS and never will be the same again. One should have an open mind, not narrow beliefs.

I would never sit here and claim that MJK has the best voice on the planet. I prefer his vulnerable style but can think of much greater talents. I'm definitely down with some Mike Patton.

I guess I should get some work done. I produce remember the 90's episodes for VH1...jk

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74. bradispissed writes:

well sir if we are to continue with the lame nicknames then i think it's only appropriate you dawn one yourself. so from here on out you shall be known as the incredible gaping hole. it's only a natural progression from piss and sh** humor to gay jokes.

and i think that queen songs are used in vocal competitions like american idol because of the quality and use of the vocals in the music. the same reason people judge their voices to a certain standard of excellence from singing songs by sinatra, tony bennet, and nat king cole. you see, the incredible gaping hole, zz top records are played just as frequently on classic rock stations but i really don't think anybody could give two sh**s to sound like billy gibbons.


so in conclusion glory holt i will not be taking you seriously from this point on when it comes to musical discussions as it seems fairly obvious your knowledge of music is based upon what other people have shared with you.


p.s. pattons best vocal work: mr. bungle - thunderball

# Jun 1, 2006 @ 6:48 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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75. Incredible Holt writes:

Are you still talking piss pants? You really described me to a tee. We can't all be born omniscient like you. I'd like to apologize to eveyone, let's all bow down to brad-P.P. the God of Rock...the guy born with all "knowledge of music" ingrained within. Queen still sold out (by definition)...just accept it and move on. Isn't there some British rock site you could surf you limey bast@rd!

It was fun slapping you around for a while but you just keep coming back with the same lame smack. We can continue this dance if you'd like but I have a feeling your growing attached.

So, for the record, you win. If being a "gaping hole" (which is your first original thought yet) puts me into a category you are not, I'm there.

That should wrap this up, to the pleasure of most on this page, I'm sure.

# Jun 2, 2006 @ 9:36 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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76. bradispissed writes:

and i have the feeling you just typed all of that bullsh** without really saying one damn thing...


and it's not that i'm the "god of rock"...i just wear the crown of thorns.


later glory holt. it's always a pleasure to watch the ja rule fans come on the site and talk music

# Jun 2, 2006 @ 3:32 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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77. Incredible Holt writes:

"Oh no you didn't" just go all martyr on us (crown of thorns?). Is that Ja Rule enough for ya?

"Get off your f*cking cross, we need the f*cking space, to nail the next piss-ant."

I honestly appreciated every bit of smack you had to deliver until that Ja Rule crap. Real let down. Let's not lose sight of the common thread here. We are all Tool fans right? You know the last thing I would throw in my player is simpleton rap fluff. I think we have run this spat into the ground...though you should know by now that I've always got one left in the chamber.

The fact is that I am a huge TOOL fan and the short part of the day I get to listen to music (drive to and from work and whenever my wife is shopping or whatever) usually consists of Ænima, Lateralus, Undertow, 10K days & Opiate. I mix in a little Opeth, Pigmy, Soundgarden, Alice, Norma Jean(not good vocals but serves its purpose), Deftones...but that's just my preference and a lot has gone unmentioned. I'm always searching to expand my music collection. I appreciate classics too...own 11 Pink Floyd CD's, all Zeps studio recording box set, B.O.C., Rush, CCR, Hendrix etc. Again, these are just my favorites and I'm not tryiing to make any statements here. Just defending the Ja Rule claim.

Someone mentioned Vedder earlier...F.Y.I. I saw him and his supermodel wife at the 4 seasons in Maui while I was on my honeymoon. He was only a few feet away and on his cell phone the whole time. I snapped a few photos and he had security come down and ask me to delete them. My camera coincidently did not cut on and I still have them. It was a little embarassing but I documented my whole trip while I was in hawaii and he just happened to be a part of it. It's not like I sold the shots or anything. It really was harmless fun. I have a good zoom on the camera and after laying in the hawaiian sun, your vision gets hazy. I wanted to zoom in to make sure it was him and he caught me.

Sorry for ranting. Oh yeah, glory Holt has a catchy ring to it...thanx.

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78. bradispissed writes:

you always have one in the chamber as you say...


then i must tell you my brain is always jacking off. so i'm more of an anti-aircraft gun


at least you like opeth...it's a good start

# Jun 3, 2006 @ 2:53 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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79. KORNDOGG writes:

BRADISALOSER, DID U JUST MENTION JA RULE ON A HEAVY METAL SITE?
SERIOUSLY,STOP SMOKIN THE CRACK,GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR a$$ AND QUIT MAKING A FOOL OF YOURSELF,YOU SAID MONGOLOID AND JA RULE IN THE SAME DAY..............................f*** YOU BRADISAc***

# Jun 3, 2006 @ 3:12 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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80. KORNDOGG writes:

FAMILY VALUES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GET IT STRAIGHT OR GET IT STRAIGHT TO THE HEAD...........................

# Jun 3, 2006 @ 5:01 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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81. Incredible Holt writes:

Here's something on topic for a change...if it hasn't been mentioned above, the website for MJK's wine company is http://www.caduceus.org/. Like all websites Maynard has ties to, this one is well constructed. Check it out if your interested...by the way, does anyone know how to get ahold of a bottle without actually being in the vineyard?

# Jun 5, 2006 @ 8:36 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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82. Incredible Holt writes:

Since posts stop after one month....

"The snake behind me hisses / Sooooo Long, I wish you well / I JUUUUUSSSSTT want to start this over / It's just, not enough, I need more, nothing seems to satisy, I just want it, I just need it, to breathe, to feel, to know I'm alive / Remember I'll always love you, even as I, tear your f*cking throat away, It will end no other way, IT WILL END NO OTHER WAAYYYYY!!!! / Be Patient.

Hope to see you guys in 5 years!

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