Slipknot Frontman Corey Taylor To Record Solo Album
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Slipknot/Stone Sour frontman Corey Taylor has announced that he plans to enter the recording studio later this year, to record his first solo album. He claims that he has written around fourty to fifty songs so far and is choosing which he wants to be featured on the record.
Corey Taylor states: "It's something that I'd like to do purely for myself. It's something that I need to release before I can think about moving on to anything else… In both SLIPKNOT and STONE SOUR I'm slightly limited to how I can write and indeed what I can write about. The beauty of doing a solo album is that I can write whatever type of song I want."
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294 Comments on "Slipknot Frontman To Record Solo Album"
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4. writes:
yes slipknot sounds so sh**ty live ive actually seen them 4 times. only once since the vol.3 era though. as far as albums the self titled and iowa were sweet. after that blah.
same with stone sour, the first stone sour was nice and dark but the newest one was blah also.
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"Can't imagine this album being any gayer than the latest Slipknot album. He should have saved all the p***y crap for his solo album instead of crappily incorporating it onto the Slipknot album. Nothing will bring them back, they are officially done."
i have to agree completely with that statement, and this one as well.
"Does anybody even care about this album? Stone Sour blows d***, Slipknot has one good cd, and they suck fat dong live. I don't see a solo album being too exciting."
they suck INCREDIBLY live! i saw them last august headlining, and they were the worst band there! that drummer f***in BLOWS, f***s up every time he attempts his sh**ty blast beats... lol
this solo album is gonna blow more c*** then the latest slipknot album, and that's saying a lot lol
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Jake.Shall.Perish
"You guys have no since for good music. Slipknot's most recent album is their best one so far. They were going nowhere until they made that album."
ROFL, and you named yourself after that mudcore band all shall perish. Iowa WAS their best and ONLY good disc.
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13. writes:
Metal heads won't be into this at all.
In fact "metal heads" hate slipknot in general for the following reasons:
-DJ guy and media guy
-more than half the band members aren't even into metal.
slipknot is a GREAT band for those who don't need their taste of music to fit a specific genera. I'm into all sorts of metal, alternative, alternative metal, radio friendly 'hard rock'. therefore slipknot and subsequently stonesour is great music to me.
expect to hear alot of soft sh** in my opinion. CT does the softer songs best.
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Jake.Shall.Perish - "All Shall Perish is death metal btw"
No, no they aren't. Look me in the eyes while listening to Gorgut's "Considered Dead" or Morbid Angel's "Chapel Of Ghouls" right after listening to "Wage Slaves" or something and tell me they're the same genre. ASP are deathcore.
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Yeah man the first two were their best, and Subliminal verses was radio friendly, and better than most of the other radio friendly bands, but the new album sucks so much ass.
And I saw them live and was not disappointed, because they played no new stuff except psychosocial. but the way taylors voice blows out all the time, I'm not surprised people said they were bad. I was just lucky and he was fine the whole way through.
But yeah - solo album will be pansy a$$ sh**, and All Shall Perish is deathcore
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17. writes:
You could say good for him....Your all just p***ed off cause they don't make the music you wanna hear,i agree the new album is not the best...but The self titled a;bum and iowa kicked ass....But to call them all that sh** is f***ed up...Shame on you all...And grow up
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Irish/TX: Do you guys see what I mean now? Their latest tour here stateside was total crap. I'm actually glad to see that I was not missing anything or possibly losing what little mind I have left. lol. They were absolutely awful when I saw them in August.
JSP: I'm not going to argue over personal preference (because you have your tastes and I have mine), but I will side with Cynic on the ASP issue. Definately not Death Metal.
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Yeah Blind I know, I heard all about Slipknot's sh**ness because of vox problems, and other things, but thankfully it went well for myself. If the show had been crap I would not have been happy.
Maybe they try harder for europeans hahahaha
And VOTD - I've heard a lot gayer music than stone sour - It's not metal, its hard rock, and id pretty good for that category.
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A lot of myopic people pop up with the mention of Slipknot, Trivium, or HIM. I don't like these bands that much but apparently they're doing something right. I might take a listen just to see what it's all about. Check out Jeff Loomis' solo album! Now that's a solo album!
Irishmetal and That One guy!!!!!!! How've you folks been?
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Ooooo good luck. I used to love the cold but now it just pisses me off. Where are you from? I've been good, just trying to get into the studio so my band can actually do some decent recordings. First we lost our drummer then the week before we we're supposed to record our bassist's dad died. Guess some higher power is trying to save the world from hearing our poopy music. Haha! Oh yeah and nice avatar!
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I guess the only reason why I like them now is because I think they lacked a certain....eh....technical?....sound. Now it seems like they are focusing more on the instruments and how they are presented rather than on how the lyrics sound. Or on how many times Joey can hit a drum in a second lol.
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32. writes:
Slipknot's self titled was the only album that tickled my fancy... lol
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And VOTD - I've heard a lot gayer music than stone sour - It's not metal, its hard rock, and id pretty good for that category.
I got to say, Stone Sour is purely a money maker for Corey and his mates (sell out style), and I'm not going to slate you for enjoying their music, but it certainly isn't for me!
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Yeah its a money maker, but I still think it is good hard rock. Metalheads might not like it, some purely because its Corey Taylor, but I think he's got a good voice, at least whenever his throat is in decent shape.
But then again Stone Sour was around before Slipknot, and he just felt like goin back to do some different stuff. I don't care what he's like as a person, and even if it was just to make money at least it isn't complete crap like some bands put out, just because they have a good name from previous work.
I don't judge it as metal and can therefore enjoy it a fair bit. But obviously I prefer bands like Naglfar and Amon Amarth.
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You guys are trippers Vol 3 was a f***ing awesome album, new album isn't bad once it grows on ya. Learn to let things grow on you before passing judgement so quickly, some of my favourite songs took me a while to warm to- i actually think slipknot were suprisingly good live
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post 10 LMAO, im sick of pure idiots like you on this site, you have probally never heard all shall perish, and if you have you probally judged it straight away like "oh this is deathcore" cause your another fag that has to stick a label on something, chris storey from asp is a amazing gutarist
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Yo acacia, he wasn't saying that ASP are crap, he just said that they aren't death metal. AND THEY AREN'T. So get a clue. Cynic did not once say they were bad, even if he thinks they are, which I'm not sure of. He said they are deathcore and they are. Believe it or not, these labels exist so people can tell which type of metal they like. Dur dur duuuuuurr.
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Too true Blind Greed. Music wouldn't exist without some sort of catalyst to inspire an individual. All shall perish is generally deathcore but they don't want to be pigeon holed as such since they incorporate other styles of music as well.
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Couple of things. I personally think Vol. 3 was their best, but Stone Sout is just Ok in some spots.
Drew said: A lot of myopic people pop up with the mention of Slipknot, Trivium, or HIM. I don't like these bands that much but apparently they're doing something right. I might take a listen just to see what it's all about. Check out Jeff Loomis' solo album! Now that's a solo album!"
I like all of those bands, and I think I'm pretty f***ing metal. You are correct sir, Jeff Loomis is a f***ing monster!!!
I think this album is going to hit around different things, but I won't be waiting in line to buy it. I'm so far behind on music, I don't even have Blind Guardians' newest....and that was 2 years ago!!!
Is it just me, or have we had a great influx of new members in the last 2 months?
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After watching there last video with them flipping there guitars around like Britney Fox or Cinderella, i almost p***ed myself in disgust.......i wish Jim Groce was still alive, id rather hear another album from a good folk singer then Coreys BS......
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47. writes:
Hey acacia - Well for a starters I've never heard any deathcore/metalcore that I've liked, so when people start mixing them in and calling them death or thrash metal bands (genre's that I'm a fan of) I get pretty f***ing miffed to say the least.
So when people mislabel bands they waste my time and money when I check them out. Would you agree that God Forbid is metalcore? If so, then listen to All Shall Perish, JFAC's demo, Suicide Silence, Cryptopsy's new album, Through the Eyes of the Dead ETC. followed by a God Forbid song.
It's quite obvious the first few are very similar in style and differ from God Forbid - hence to whack them under the same label of metalcore is a sh**ty description for potential fans. So instead of typing out a god-damn essay like I am now to describe the sound, we collect them under a handy banner called Deathcore. If you take such umbrage from it in terms of a particular band (like JFAC new stuff), perhaps you might add something on like "deathmetal with touches of deathcore".
If deathcore doesn't exist, then what do you call the similarities between all those aforementioned bands?
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Americanpatriot1: I like all of those bands except HIM! I don't hate HIM, they do what they do well it's just not my cup of tea. People are just narrow minded when it comes to these bands because they don't understand how anyone could hate their favorite band. On the other side of the spectrum, people can't comprehend how many people love their least favorite band. Metal heads are by far the most passionate when it comes to their music.
Cynic: Whats that image you're using for an avatar? It looks strangely familiar.
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I have a love hate relationship with slipknot, hate most of their sh**, but love some. Stone sour on the other hand is a GREAT band! I think he should stick with just stone sour! I think a solo album would be cool.
P.S- Most on here hate slipknot or stone sour because they A) get radio time ( which you are out of your f***ing mind if you think radio time is BAD! We would be in alot of trouble if it wasnt for radio, imagine if radio never got invented, music travels through radio so others can hear, makes bands money, not a bad thing) or B) You all think your heavy bullsh** is the best and if a band doesnt have annoying guitar solos or gay lyrics about dogging religion or death that you cant even understand then its bullsh**. Your a FUKING joke!
"Its deathcore, no its metalcore, no its mudcore, no its blah blah blah! Shut the f*** up with your bullsh** genres!!!!!!! Its metal or its rock, country or southern rock, rap or R&B. Its that simple,
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KORNDOGG Your point a) is not true at all, that's a false stereotype, a straw man arguement. Also point b) is pretty much the same thing, you're attacking an easy to defeat phantom persona which doesn't exist on these boards. And if that phantom does exist, why don't you point them out instead of flinging insults into at some "you-know-who" stereotype.
Here let me rephrase for the truth - most people here hate Slipknot or Stone Sour because a) they think their music is sh** watered down metal or b) they think they've gone down hill and think Corey Taylor is an a$$hole.
And lol at the hypocrisy on genres - Rock and Southern rock is ok, but not metal and metalcore?
And yes Drewbacce my avatar is from Mercyful Fates' "Don't Break The Oath" album - kill for it!
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Because sub-genres as you call them are f***ing stupid. And cynic- metal and metalcore makes absolutley no sense, most people would be able to tell the difference between rock and southern rock( garth brooks-country, lynard skynard-southern rock)! But as for metal and metalcore, besides idiots who put these stupid genres together nobody could tell the difference. Once again, metal is metal, and the fake points you keep making about watered down metal does not deny the fact that metal is metal, some harder than others, rock is rock. You wouldnt sub-genre rap music, or any other type. So metal should be the same.
P.S- lets sub genre rap for fun shall we- gangsta rap, racist rap, intellectual rap, bling-bling rap, death rap, rapcore, LOL!!!! Sounds f***ing stupid as does your bullsh** metal genres.
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Well blindgreed, of course korn is metal! And let me ask you a question......What makes a singer who had something terrible happen to him beyond his control and vents through his lyrics( which is what music is about) so gay? So your telling me if a kid gets molested and finds a way to release the pain of a f***ed up childhood that makes him gay? Its called emotion which most bands you listen to probably dont have, so before you post something idiotic about someone is gay for something beyond his/her control that happens to them. Take a minute to think it out, and korn has probably helped thousands of kids or adults who have been raped or molested actually get through it, so if thats gay than your a f***ing idiot!
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Always liked the first album better than Iowa, but I have a tendency to always prefer the album I hear first. After listening to the self-titled album for a while, I got over it, heard Iowa and I was pretty bored with Slipknot in general by then. They have two, maybe three good songs on each record. But I listen to them maybe once a year. Even less often for Stonesour. I don't even care at all about Taylor's solo crap.
Blindgreed, I thought Korn's song 'Daddy' was their most metal song of their catalogue. It was confronting, heavy, raw, powerful, and had real emotion - REAL hatred and REAL bitterness - behind it, something most metal bands can only dream of having. Korn stopped being worth listening to, for me, when they brought out Follow The Leader. When they started moving towards hip-hop.
I would much rather listen to a song like Daddy than a song about decapitation or wound-sexing or how crap politics is, or whatever you consider to be 'metal' lyrics. Gimme something REAL anyday.
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^^Im glad im not the only person on here that thinks daddy was korns most powerful song! I still like korn because when i like a band enough, i can change my tastes right along with the way they change. Just opening my mind to something different i guess. I would be disappointed if a band put out the same sound every album. But thats just my opinion.
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KORNDOGG: You said "gay lyrics about dogging religion or death" Yes, I beieve lyrics about being sodomized is far gayer then anything Slayer or Dimmu has ever done. Furthermore, I don't just listen to metal; I make it. Yes I write about darkness, death and the loss of "God" because I firmly believe that the world has had enough Christianity shoved down it's throat by now. By definition that is not "GAY". Sodomy, is much closer to the definition of "GAY". The next time you throw around words in a feable attempt to argue or insult someone, maybe you should look up the word first so that you don't end up looking like the villiage fvcking idiot. I've met JD and trust me, he could care less about the kids or adults who were molested and what they're going through. He cares about album sales and his next hit.
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65. writes:
KORNDOGG you are horribly wrong - so everything's metal huh? Manowar are the same as Deicide? Disembowelment are the same as Cynic? Darkthrone are the same as Korn? Err, f*** no. But go on, I'd love for you to try and explain Darkthrone are the same as Korn.
Go on. Tell me Korn are play the same type of music as Darkthrone. I need a good laugh. And how come you ignore all my points about genre's being descriptions of bands for fans etc - not very fair in an arguement to ignore someone's points is it?
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Ok mister f***ing technical, i know what gay means you f***ing child! You have no point, your an athiest who thinks making music about death and destruction is more important than making music about real f***ing life. Get a clue, typical metalhead. And as far as Jonathan davis goes, ive met him also, seemed nice to me. But i dont f***ing no him personally. And im sure me being as big of korn fan as i am, that he and other members care more about the fans than anyone in almost any other band, listen to 4U, or other songs where they describe how much the fans mean. Im sure when you met him, he told you " I just care about my next hit". Watch interviews, do your research before you dog someone in a band that you also do not know!
And why is Korn brought up for a comeback by almost everyone on here, korn sucks, korns sh**, korns gay. You have no valid points at all! Korn is just one of hundreds of bands i listen too, but thats your only comeback whenever you are mad. Come up with something new. PLEASE!
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Cynic- I never ignore a point, because you didnt make that point. You never said that in post 54 which is the only post to me from you besides your last. Once again, think before you type! And i will describe to you right here what i think- For one- no band sounds the same, none, zip, zero. Some sound similiar but not the same. So to your question, no korn doesnt sound like darkthrone, but korn also doesnt sound like staind, or deftones, or anyone else they are catagorized with. But it doesnt mean that you have to come up with some stupid name for each band does it?
Once again, I make points, remember that for the next time you same "korn sucks" because your out of good points. And fans dont need genres, i like hundreds and hundreds of bands and i do just fine without catagorization of them.
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KORNDOGG: As usual you jumped to a conclusion, and as usual you are wrong. I do fvcking know him and the rest of the band much better than you assume. I don't need to do research or watch interviews because I have spent a considerable ammount of time with each of them. I do know him and I will dog him if I feel the need to in order to make a point with a window licker like you. In addition, I also write about life experiences and will agree with Psythe that they do make the best lyrics. What I don't agree with is boneheads like yourself who go around labeling everything they don't like as being gay. In closing, i'd also like to say that I am not at all angry and I don't hate Korn.
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Your first post responded to my post to acacia about genres telling me to "Shut the f*** up with your bullsh** genres!!!!!!!" - so I take that post to be part of the argument. I ALWAYS think before I type - don't be so judgemental.
So how is it valid to group country groups seperately from rap groups, but not metalcore groups from metal groups? Is it ok to say death metal and black metal? Or is that too far? Point of this paragraph - you've created a slippery slope scenario where there is no valid point to draw a line and say "this is ok for a genre, but this is too specific".
"remember that for the next time you same "korn sucks"" - Quote me where I said that? Again, I'm a real person not some stereotype that you pretend everyone who likes death metal must be.
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KORNDOGG - I lost interest in Korn a long time ago, but you on the other hand are a persistent a$$hole. I used to hate you, but you've got serious balls (size is negligible) to come on a site where Korn is hated universally and defend them till the very end. *Respect*. THAT is metal, you piece o' crap!
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Bruno....you're an idiot. How the f*** could ASP even resemble anything close to emo? They are death metal. Just shut the fvck up dude. All you are trying to do is start sh**.
QUIT USING THESE STUPID f***ING LABELS/SUBGENRES. It's bullsh**...truly bullsh**...
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Korndogg: I'm curious....could you do me a favor and name 25 of these hundreds of bands you listen to? Bands you consider metal, preferably. just a request. you can tell me to f*** off if you want, but I'm just curious about something...
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I'm myself, sorry if you don't like that. Death metal is a sub-genre of metal is it not? Same as deathcore?
It saddens me when people deface the genres I love. Sorry if you thought I was trying to act superior or anything else, but metal is pretty sacred to me. Again, I pose the same question to you as I did acacia in post 47.
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"Hey acacia - Well for a starters I've never heard any deathcore/metalcore that I've liked, so when people start mixing them in and calling them death or thrash metal bands (genre's that I'm a fan of) I get pretty f***ing miffed to say the least."
Right there yuo stated that it was a genre. Not a sub genre.
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Rock, sometime around the 70's/80's spawned both Punk and Metal.
Punk, spawned Hardcore Punk, and eventually grindcore.
Metal spawned death Metal as well as black and thrash metal
Hardcore, emphasizing breakdowns and heavily down-tuned guitars, merged with death metal, whcih emphasized guttural vocals, along with technical and fast guitar work, to create deathcore, which relies mainly on a combination of intense guitar work, guttural vocals, heavily down-tuned guitars, and breakdowns.
I'm no the biggest expert on All shall Perish, or whether they actually are or are not deathcore, but the genre exists. Considering some death metal bands use breakdowns on occasion(Decapitated), and some hardcore bands do occasionally showcase some technical skill(Sworn enemy), it's easy to see why the labeling of some bands as deathcore may be on shaky ground, but the genre, blatantly, blatantly exists. early JFAC and Salt the Wound come immediatley to mind. Try no to stupidly deny it's existence. I might as well deny the existence of country music in it's differentiation from Rock; (I ignore the genre of music anyway lol) but why would I want to be so ignorant?
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i for one think that korndog has a strong point....most people wont even admit to likeing korn for whatever reason (being "metal" or not is problly the biggest one) so i salute korndogg for at least sticking with his guns....korn really is simplicity at its finest i think with very talented musicians....jon davis definetly has strong lyrics but alot of people dont get it which is ok. the thing that gets me the most annoyed is when people bash other people for likeing certain bands - "like i get with likeing bfmv". its fine if you dont like the music but you really cannot say the music sucks just cuz you dont like it...or thinking head is a dumbass for leaving the band to follow christianity (not saying i support Christianity) but its his decision...i dont think korn is metal anymore, but i bet there in the rock n roll hall someday.
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Now your arguing semantics on two levels. a) I call sub-genre's genres interchangably, just like you might have a sub-hierarchy inside a hierarchy, the inner is still a hierarchy itself. b) What is and isn't a sub-genre is pretty subjective, so it doesn't really matter. I can drop this but if someone responds or brings up something new, I can't help but respond. It's a built in response, too much Manowar I suspect :P
But you might like to consider the fact calling death metal a genre unto itself lends to the absurdity of saying "I'm a metal fan" being illogical - because then you would have to say "A metal fan? That means nothing, you're either a fan of black, death or thrash metal or a combination of the three".
I don't mind being civil, but please do truthfully ask yourself - are you really p***ed off because you feel those genres have negative connotations, whereas you love the bands that are often given those labels? i.e., no-one ever complains about being called funeral doom metal.
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The problem is : WHY does it piss you off? Labels help people find music similar to their tastes. I for one cant stand Power metal, mainly for the high-pitched vocals and flamboyantly happy guitar work. so If I see a band being labeled as Power metal, I know not to waste my money on their cd.
If someone were to reccomend a prog-death band I had never heard of, it would interst me heavily, because that specific sound is something I'm always on the lookout for.
So why do you hate labels so much? I for one would rather sift through agenre Ilike and find ten-fifteen bands I find amazing, as opposed to sifting through hundreds of random bands and finding 3 that i liked, and 30 I found not that bad, and maybe one that I found to be awesome.
I just dont understand why the hell it's such a problem?
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^Agreed. Furthermore, Korn's ''Life Is Peachy'' was a masterpiece. It was completely outta control, without any f***in regard for anything at all. It was cathartic rebelion at its finest, with a subtle hint of vulgarity, immaturity and childish humour executed perfectly. It was a genuinely f***ed up record. The self-titled was okay and FTL/Issues had some catchy, groovy tunes. But after that they sorta watered it all down with Jon Davis taking centre stage. The raw energy was replaced by a robust sound and whiny vocals (We all know how Jon does his gayass operatic "AAAAWWWWWWWW PAAAAAIN...nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn on Untouchables and beyond.). In the past it used to be "FOck YoOOO!!! PONK a$$ BIIIITCH!!!!" and "Whynchuu gethef***oUTTA MA FAAICE! NOW!"..which was waay more entertaining.lol. So, my point is, yes, people bash each other for liking bands. But its loads of fun, so who cares?
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f***-A-Name- I will name a few, but not all are metal, i like alot of rock too! And each and everyone of you can make fun if you choose
Korn, staind, seether, 3days grace, breaking benjamin, slipknot, stone sour, manson, RATM, NIN, Tool, Metallica, Hellyeah, mudvayne, disturbed, cold, adema, ten years, nickleback, theory of a deadman, godsmack, pumpkins, zombie, five finger death punch, droid, signal, papa roach, linkin park, blue october, and a hell of alot more. If you want to use genres, then i guess im more nu metal, which yall already knew. But i like everything, some harder and even country and rap. I love music. Its just that simple.
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Hey KORNDOGG, considering Blindgreed1 is in a band called Blind Greed and he has toured with a lot of bands, I suggest you do your research first.
On genres I said my piece and Cynic elaborated on it perfectly. You need sub genres to find out what you are listening to, and JSP stfu, just because deathcore has negative connotations to some people doesn't make every deathcore band bad. And I repeat ASP is deathcore.
On Korn, I used to listen to them, but I now listen to heavier stuff. I don't bash them because I really don't care about them.
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It's pretty clear where Korndogg's allegiances lie, but maybe, just maybe we can turn him on to some better stuff.
Slipknot, manson, NIN, Tool, Metallica, mudvayne, pumpkins were the only ones on that list that I like, but hey, that's just me. I think this guy walked around with a 24 hour hard-on in the early 2000's when the whole "Nu-Metal" thing was in it's heyday. Thank God that little movement died. Even the whole "metalcore" thing is getting a little generic. Suicide Silence anyone??? Give me a break.
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KORNDOGG: Once again, you jump to conclusions. I'm not going to argue this with you anymore. I have spent quite a bit of time with Korn. Had dinner with them, hung out and partied on many occasions over a ten year stretch because my little brother is part of the Korn family. What you see in your little interviews is exactly what their publicity team wants the fans to see. Musicians that truely care about their fans. The reason behind this is because they owe their fortune and fame to that "caring" image. However, that fortune and fame is only as valuable as their next hit (which by the way is not ever going to happen again). JD didn't need to say it. It was plainly obvious. You obviously worship Korn, so I will spare you all of the dirt and behind the scenes reality BS that was going on in that band because I honestly don't care to even go into it, but I will say this: The only thing that Korn fans are to Korn is a paycheck. If you can't wrap your head around that and understand it then we are done here. Furthermore, Cynic and FAN and anyone else who favors sub-generes are exactly right. Your hero's in Korn identify themselves as Nu-Metal so there you have it. End of story.
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gez i love reading over these and getting a laugh, yes slipknot have gone down hill on the heavy side, and only about 3 to 4 songs on their new album(s) are good to the metal fans after doing such good albums to start of with, but its the road they picked.
I mean i am from aus i seen them play with machine head a few months ago (machine head very good band) and slipknot only played 2 songs from all hope is gone, 2 songs for vol 3 and the rest were from the heavy albums, so they know what the fans like to hear.
as for the list that KORNDOGG has of all these bands some of them are just rock, and i dont care what anyone says linkin park are not heavy metal they are rock wanabes, yes they have some good songs but they are too much about the media to care about the music they write.
so i am not taking any sides because yes they may class as metal and are good to listen to from time to time but they could of took a better path then what they did
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There's actually books on this. Read "Sound of the beast" by Ian Christe. He hosts a show on Sirius Liquid metal called Bloody Roots about the different sub genres of metal. "His last one was on funk metal which was pretty interesting." :p Metal is the core genre and like a family tree it spawned a swarm of other genres taking influence from elsewhere.
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I can't believe how people like Jake.Shall.Perish and KORNDOGG can be so offended by sub genres that they turn it into a borderline war. Its been ahile KORNDOGG since the days of coco and Red Devil (I went by slayerdisciple then). Still the intolerant, bordering bigotry, bastard I see.
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^Lol I bet.
BTW KD and Jake your arguements about subgenres is ridiculous, its just like saying that main genres are stupid. Its all music right? Who cares if its rap, or rock, or country, or ambient etc. its all music. Why stop at music? Why do we group organisms? They are all organisms who cares if they are animals or plants or fungi etc. Think before you post.
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We live in a society that communicates via language. By the fact that humanity began to create music, the need for descriptive musical terms arose. Music, however, is a fluid art, constantly evolving and changing as society progresses (or some might argue "digresses"). Many bands today would be un-definable by terms used, say 100 years ago due to technological advances or newly created styles of music. Therefore new descriptive terms have been created using the language medium. While these terms are never the be all, end all of a bands sound, they are simply society's way of trying to descibe in a shorter form what we are hearing in comparison to existing musical genres or in the case of some, non-existing musical style. Music will continue to evolve and language will continue to find ways to classify it. These terms won't always encompass what a band is all about, but we need these short descriptive phrases to portray the ideal in a convenient manner during conversation.
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Just to re-iterate though, my last post was in no way an insult to anyone. While these labels are really just short words which help us understand what type of music a band creates, they in no way portray all the subtle nuances a band might have. I can probably count on one hand the number of bands I think can be fully and completely classified by a music label. Hell, at the advent of thrash music, I remember Metallica telling Hit Parader they didn't like being called a "thrash" band. I myself don't see the labels as insulting or limiting. I figure if the very words we speak are altering to somehow describe a bands sound, is there really any better form of flattery?
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Netro: I'll bet you and Cynic could (in case you haven't already) have some very deep intellectual conversations with each other regarding metal. Both of you are very intelligent and express yourselves effectively on these boards. I would like to be the fly on the wall once you two got going. I'm betting I would learn a thing or two. lol.
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Irish, I agree that chicken and bacon sandwiches are, in fact, very nice. Though I myself prefer a slice of ham and some swiss instead of the bacon. Although I hold no animosity toward those who prefer bacon, as we are all children of this earth who must eat. It is good that we have a food such as sandwiches that can bring us together as metal fans, though we might be different in our choice of ingredients.
God what windbag I am :)
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Fried turkey breast thinly sliced with 2 slices of pepperjack, and a thin sliver of mustard on the sweeter variety of multi-grain bread is the way to go for me. If you haven't tried that, you're missing out. Ask you local deli if they carry that, and give it a go. That's some good eating right there.
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119. writes:
The Taliban know they're right too... just thought I'd point that out.
On the other hand, post 87 = correct. and brilliant. and fantastic. and reminded me why I used to love Korn - "Whynchuu gethef***oUTTA MA FAAICE! NOW!" hahahahah I love it :D
"Why stop at music? Why do we group organisms? They are all organisms who cares if they are animals or plants or fungi etc." - wait, who DOES care? Toads are people too! Weeeeeeeeee! :P
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"ALL SHALL PERISH formed with the intent of not being labeled with the restricting monikers of "death metal", "hardcore" or "metalcore"
If that's what is being argued, that's straight from the horses mouth.
"Death metal is an extreme subgenre of heavy metal. It typically employs fast tempos, heavily distorted guitars, deep growling vocals, morbid lyrics, blast beat drumming, and complex song structures with multiple tempo changes."
That might be a quick and easy definition, but next we have the roots of the music itself.
"Building off the speed and complexity of thrash metal, death metal emerged during the mid 1980s. It was mainly inspired by thrash and early black metal acts like Slayer, Kreator and Celtic Frost. Along with the band Death and its frontman Chuck Schuldiner (who is often hailed as "the father of death metal"), bands like Possessed,and Morbid Angel are often considered pioneers of the genre. In the late 1980s and early 1990s, death metal gained more media attention as popular record labels like Earache Records and Roadrunner Records began to sign death metal bands at a rapid rate. Since then, death metal has diversified, spawning a rich variety of subgenres."
I would like to say that there is nothing new under the sun. All music is an offshoot of existing music.
"Genre: A class or category of artistic endeavor having a particular form, content, technique, or the like."
Death Metal being a style of music could therefore be called a genre.
"Sub-Genre: A subcategory within a particular genre."
So logic dictates that Death Metal, being a derivative of an existing musical genre could therefore be classified as a sub-genre as well.
And finally...
"Semantics: The meaning or the interpretation of a word, sentence, or other language form.
Semantics is commonly used to refer to a trivial point or distinction that revolves around mere words rather than significant issues. Therefore no one is wrong here, and no one is right."
Can we all get back to being cool now? Sheesh.
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Sorry if that sounded harsh. Just hate the bickering. I like to think I get along with almost everyone here, and sometimes it's like watching my brothers fight, know? I know I come off as a psuedo-intellectual prick at times, but I hope everyone understands I have a good sense of humor about myself as well. Just had a rough day, I suppose. Ahh well, sorry everyone :(
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OMGOMGOMG. I actually ROFLMAO at this entire thread. It all started as a meaningless stab at ASP, because, I personally, think they haven't changed a bit. Still writing the same riffs, still gargling the same monotonous sounds.
I read most of these posts until they all sort of droned on and meshed together.
Here is what I learned
1) Metalcore is gay
2) ASP is Death Metal? But Behemoth ______?
3) No one likes KORNDOGG's opinion
4) ASP are still lame
And kudos to netro for walking the line.
P.S. For the record, every genre is pretty well a farce as most modern genres were creating by fusing a wide variety of music together. Think of rock as a fuse of Country and Blues. Either way, moot point as your all wrong and I am the great all knowing one. BE GONE!!!!
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I concur with the last statement concerning cynic's review of (Ob)Servant. And I thought I was the only one who noticed the Nile-leaning sound on the album. lol
And the part about the sandwich. and well, pretty much everything else you said too, but especially the sandwich...
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If you think Coreys gay hate what hes doing with slipknot or stonesour well good 4 you but who really cares what you think his lyrics and vocals are f***en mean wow hes singing more now so its gay lol F@&K OFF!!!!! you's just dont f***en understand sh** just cos you want him to scream and write twisted f***en lyrics doesnt make it a good cd listen to the complete packet of whats going on everyone knows thought sh**...listen to aoud of bands out there its about the sh** they go thru in life and deal with its the way it is it bring honestly and heart and feelings to the f***en music and if you dont like it F@&K OFF DONT LISTEN they wont give a f@&k what you think go get a f@&ken life and you try do what Slipknot and Stonesour do you wouldnt even get F@&ken close
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Its funny most of you speak of the nu metal movement as if it has left. Let me be the first to tell you that nu metal has more fans than any other metal out there, so if nu metal has left. I feel sorry for the sad pathetic bands you all adore. And if nu metal "movement" as you call it does fade, at least they had a movement, which is more than you can say about your little bands, and your sub genres.
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I think there should be a study done about the connection between nu metal fans and mental retardation.
Also: Corey Taylor's not a good vocalist because his technique is all wrong, but he has a nice, mellow tone when he's singing in a clean manner. I think if he underwent some training, perhaps he could be something... but other than that, he's horrible, and this album probably will suck.
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On an ignorance chart, you're off the f***ing scales KORNDOGG. But responding to you isn't interesting in any way unlike someone like Jake.Shall.Perish. The difference being, I now understand you're too ignorant (stupid? I can't tell) to ever look at anyone else's view. I may as well go yell at a chimp in the zoo, hell that'd actually be a lot more fun.
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This is by far the greatest thread I have ever read in my entire life.
If you guys don't mind, I'm going to go eat a bag of Potato Chips. Specifically speaking, a bag of "Chedder Cheese Potato Chips."
I am not a fan of Slipknot nor Corey Taylor so, I will say nothing at all.
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The beauty of Korndogg, is that he is a member. He's not some anonymous jag-off that will leave when p***ed. That tells me he's going to keep coming back for more and more punishment. So aside from maybe Linkin Park and kinda sorts Korn, where are all of your little rappy-sh** bands today?
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Where are my bands? Well lets see, rage against the machine is nu metal, and they still sell out places ten years with no new music! Staind, papa roach, seether, slipknot, mudvayne, disturbed, nickleback and the list goes on, are still selling more albums and selling out stadiums. I understand that some bands i named are more rock, but i consider all bands of that era nu metal, even without the rap! Those are facts, so instead of bashing it cuz you hate it. Since you asked me. Wheres your facts?
Staind-illusion of progress- sold 91,800 first week
Nickleback-dark horse- sold 177,000 after 2 weeks
Korn-untitled- sold 123,000 first week
Papa roach-paramour sessions- sold 101,000 first week
Mudvayne-the new game- sold 151,000 first week
Disturbed-Indestructable- sold 253,000 first week
Point- the nu metal rock bands will always be around, with millions of fans. The music may change up a bit, more rock, less rap, or with a different style, but its still nu-metal and you all hate it!
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You basically just insulted Seether, which is one of my favourite rock bands. Don't you dare add them to your pile of sh**ty nu metal bands.
Also, being a Canadian citizen, I can say I'm truly ashamed that Nickleback are from here. I hate them to death for flooding us with c***ry rock bullsh**.
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Where are our facts?
Christina Aguilera's Debut - 252,000 in first week (pretty good for a debut too)
Brittney Spears new album - 505,000 in first week
Backstreet boys Millenium - 1,134,000 in first week
..etc
Hope you see the ridiculous flaw in your reasoning there KORNDOGG.
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Staind-illusion of progress- sold 91,800 first week
Nickleback-dark horse- sold 177,000 after 2 weeks
Korn-untitled- sold 123,000 first week
Papa roach-paramour sessions- sold 101,000 first week
Disturbed-Indestructable- sold 253,000 first week
None of these bands are metal dumbass. sh**ty, mainstream, easily digestable, fit for finnicky folk, rock. All that shows is that there are far too many stupid people. See Cynic's facts and the same rule will apply. And you're right, I hate it.
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LOL, ok cynic you are exactly right with those album sales. I agree. But what are we discussing here? You need to choose one side of this argument. When you said that the nu metal bands are done, or over. I just pointed out that they are not! Would you disagree? If you think they suck, thats your opinion and thats fine. But dont say that nu metal is over when bands still sell that many records. You cant have it both ways, so choose!
And american patriot, once again- korn is metal like it or not, staind started out as nu metal( yes they have changed into more rock) but their first two albums tormented and dysfunction were nu metal! Papa roach- same thing, rage- same thing. So like i said, some bands i named are more rock, but they still fall into that catagory. And say what you want, thats your opinion, but those bands i named are some i like, which doesnt make me stupid, my opinion! Even though i hate bands like slayer, they are talented musicians, just with real stupid f***en lyrics, and on your point of me not listening to other views your wrong, any band that i bash i have done my homework on, I always listen to a band before i talk sh**!
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There is no winning an argument of opinions, so thats why i throw album sales out there. Because we were discussing the nu-metal era being over. Fact is that most bands like rage and korn will go down in history as changing music as we know it, and either your all jealous or p***ed about the bands you like will not fall into the greats!
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Oh you funny funny people. Who gives a toss about genres and sub genres? If you like something then great, if not then either a) appreciate it if it has some musical merit and let it be, or b) just be honest and say it's not your thing and again let it be. Criticise if it is truly horrific, otherwise shut your mouth. Ive been listening to rock and metal my whole life and I couldnt give a crap what people think about the bands I like and listen to. I prefer to appreciate the musicians as people, coz at the end of the day thats what they are - human beings. Corey is a great singer/songwriter despite his well publicised vocal issues. I have seen Slipknot and Stone Sour live and I couldnt fault either performance, but thats just my personal experience. Yes it is disapointing when bands go watered down and commerical but what happens to bands who dont sell enough records? Oh yeah they dont get to record anymore. There is a fine line between credibility and commercialisation. Music is self expression and regardless of genre or "sub genre" should be respected... at least to some degree.
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"There is no winning an argument of opinions"
In all honesty one of the best things said on this thread. But you are in a forum which is predominantly metal fans. I myself won't put down the music, but I will always prefer a band such as Slayer or even Cannibal Corpse over Korn or Staind. The problem here is that most people on this forum are of the same opinion. You can talk volumes about all the aspects of the music you enjoy, and that's great that you enjoy it, but the fact remains that this is an argument of opinions as you said. I won't call your music stupid or obsolete, but I would like to have the same courtesy extended. If we could leave it at that we would all get along great despite our differences in musical tastes.
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BAHAHAHA! Sorry about my hair being like it is. I guess I should cut it because I get too much p***y.
Drew, it is not factual. A manner of genre is more opinionated then factual. There are too many different things to be put into consideration about genre placement. Bands can change their sound throughout their career possibly CHANGING their genre. SO, ALL OF THE GENRES SHOULD BE MORE GENERALIZED in my opinion.
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Well that's true....to some extent. I won't pretend to be a music scholar or something. What i'm having trouble figuring out is if bands like Atreyu.....*shutters* and Mudvayne changed their sound to sell more records? Or was it just a natural progression for those bands?
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^^^ Spot on Korndogg - Mudvayne still have their sound they have just evolved a little and thankfully dropped that makeup crap years ago. Not sure about the new album as haven't listened to it as yet. As for Atreyu, they changed their sound and their record label because that is the direction the band wanted to take - again, progression.
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Progression can be a funny thing. I know I hear alot of people who prefer the older sound of Mastodon and feel that the band has "sold out". I for one appreciate the direction the band is going in, it might seem easier on the ear in that it's not as harsh a sound, but the technique has slowly evolved to make the band more "progressive" to use a cliched term, yet a very signature sound that isn't always easy to discern to todays pop-friendly listeners. Yet Metallica lost me when they released the Black Album and therefore becoming more radio friendly. Not to put down anyone who disagrees, I just preferred the machine gun riffs and longer, more complex song structure to the slower crunch and less gritty vocals. While this change has worked for both bands I doubt it was ever an easy decision.
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Jake.Shall.Perish - "A manner of genre is more opinionated then factual."
Well think about it like this - I think genres become more opinionated as they get more specific, the ratio between opinion and fact (probably wrong word) changes. i.e., saying Britteny Spears is death metal is not a valid opinion. It's probably a brain injury. But whether Evoken are death/doom, or funeral doom is very much up in the air. But no-one ever minds, because they are very similar. However, the difference between calling ASP deathcore and death-metal is pretty big, and less opinion oriented just like the Britteny Spears categorization.
Hmmm I think Drewbacca's right about opinions - If I say, "In my opinion, the team will definitely win on Saturday" and they lose, then the opinion was wrong. Or is that an incorrect sentence? Or are we going to descend into the hell that is a semantic arguement? (please say no!)
@KORNDOGG - "When you said that the nu metal bands are done, or over." - umm, no I didn't, but no big deal on thinking I did. I have no problem whatsoever with Korn. To me they're no threat to the things I love so I have no animosity towards them. You should be more open minded about bands like Cannibal Corpse too - think of an ignorant opera fan listening to Korn and saying it's sh** just because they are narrow minded.
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The thing is Cynic, is that you aren't taking into consideration the fact that deathcore is the mixture of DEATH METAL and hardcore...please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm just stating the obvious, like you when saying Britteny Spears is not death metal. The thing about subgenres (btw, thats what I meant to say in post 168, not genre) is that they vary based on the band and how they change over time....and people's OPINIONS. The thing about how the opinion on the "game" was wrong, is actually wrong in itself. Opinions are based purely on faith. Just think about, I know you must be a little skeptical at that at first haha. Giving your opinion is basically telling that you are putting your faith on your ideal. An opinion can NEVER be wrong, just mistaken. How you stated the "opinion", i.e., 'Hmmm I think Drewbacca's right about opinions - If I say, "In my opinion, the team will definitely win on Saturday" and they lose, then the opinion was wrong.', then that was giving a false hope of futuristic 'wants'. It would be a statement that is given out of observation, not out of belief. If they would have used the word think, then I wouldn't be arguing about this. I can't ever remember giving an opinion about something and not using the word think. Understand? If not, then it is probably my fault because I tend to ramble and mix sh** up. My mind is quite the wonder when I'm drunk bahahaha.
Also, a semantic argument is all I've been fighting about hahahahaha.
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Yeah I don't really understand, but I'm not fussed. And yep deathcore sure is a mixture of death metal and hardcore. That's why it fits All Shall Perish so well. But opinions... I mean that's just another way to say "I think". And if I say "There's no way you can fit 15 McNuggets in your mouth" and it turns out to be wrong, I'd say "hey dude I was wrong about that, here's a napkin".
And also I agree on bands progression. That's why I say things like "hey check out the black metal band Emperor - their earlier stuff is pretty necro stuff but later they got more technical and progressive." Genre's are just nifty descriptions.
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Oh mine is just amazing. It has 300+ preset tones! All of them are pretty sick, and the best thing is that I have a floorboard also, so I don't need any unnecessary pedals when on stage. It's all right there at my disposal. I just got the brand new Tube amp they released...I don't know the name right off the top of my head..but it's NICE. For some reason I prefer their tone over everyone else's.
I'm starting to get into a band called Yyrkoon, have you heard of them?
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Heard the name, death metal or something? I'm sure I saw something about them in a magazine. Yeah pedals aren't really my thing, I just prefer amps that give you the power you need. Sometimes you see bands with a massive board of pedals and the guitarist sits there and fiddles with the whole show, it's like "f*** man try focusing on that fact you write sh** music before twiddling with that" haha. A pet hate I guess.
Oh yep, I think when I get some stability in my life and have more time to write and play I'll invest in one.
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You know, I think i have figured out the main reasons why we dont agree alot. Here they are-
1) Most of you are musicians, i am not. I just love listening to music, I mean I used to play bass, but never took it very far.
2)I can be a d***
3)I am really into lyrics that mean something to me, I like some kick a$$ instuments too, but mostly lyrics, and i believe most of you are into mainly instruments.
4)When i see change and progress, most of you see selling out( which is fine, thats your opinions)
Thats just a couple. Just saying.
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Yeah it would be a great idea. And I completely know where you are coming from, I myself have never dabbled in the "pedal arts" because I don't see the need to have that many different effects. If you can't play the sound you are going for with skill/talent, then you shouldn't be up there. That's the thing I dislike about distortion (even though I still use it, but only after I perfect my sound), it hides so much.
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Do I like slow music? LOL! I'm watching Sunn O))) on youtube!!!
Well I know you were meaning non-metal by slow, but I listen to tons of doom metal, Disembowelment, Burning Witch, Trouble etc.
But yes slow non-metal music, classical music, Radiohead, as above I'm a huge John Fruciante fan (from the Chili Peppers), David Bowie, My Bloody Valentine, ambient music etc.
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For slow music I prefer progressive bands like Porcupine Tree, Yes, Rush, Pink Floyd, and I have to list Opeth. Absolutely my favorite band.
I am a big fan of singer/songwriter and folk styles. Also some bluegrass and Appalachia as well. Simon and Garfunkel, Jillian Welch, Harry Chapin, Jim Croce, Dan Fogelberg, and James Taylor. Cat Stevens has been an idol of mine since I was very young. Name an Outlaw country artist and I'm a fan.
My wife exposes me to alot of classical music as she is a violinist. I'm not always certain of what I;m listening to, but i know it if I like it :)
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Two years ago I'd have said Cannibal Corpse were the most overrated and average death metal band there is - I was wrong. When I was 15, I hated black metal. Point is, people hate what they don't understand - I did. It takes years to understand extreme metal, it's not something that happens overnight. You feel like you don't understand the gore and lyrics etc, so it's easy for you to hate Cannibal Corpse. Again all I say is that it takes serious time to understand these bands, just like an Opera singer would feel about Korn. You no way have to like them though, just respect that some people understand them like you do Korn.
Damn I second King Crimson, Rush and Pink Floyd. Though I only like "The Wall", I reaalllly like it!
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I think what it is with me is that it's very hard for me to find the "middle ground" of music interesting. I think why Opeth is my favorite band is that they are in both extremes. Either brutal death metal or clean, melodic and folk-ey. I rarely hear anything on the radio I like. I prefer bands that are a bit off of the mainstream in their musical direction. Even with a band as well known as Pink Floyd I tend toward the weirder more experimental albums such as "Umma-Gumma". Music that might not appeal to the casual listener. I've never been one for songs with a hook or popular song structure. I have heard most of Staind's stuff, but it never really appealed to me enough to pursue it.
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No, Man, I definately agree. Some folks just want to play music and not push the envelope or try to break new ground. I'll tell you, there have been times I played with any band be it punk, blues or classic-rock, folk, country, just for the love of playing. I even do some of my own techno beats just to create. Sometimes just to be playing music is enough to make you happy, and if people like it and you can make a living, so much the better.
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Hmm, I didn't know we were getting so technical! haha
I also like...
Pink Floyd, Thin Lizzy, Within Temptation, Colin Hay (If you like the show Scrubs, you will know some of his stuff), TSO, Zeppelin, Northern Light, Skyscraper....I also like grunge...like Soundgarden and Tool. They are technically 'slow' considering the other bands I listen to haha.
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Example-
Staind-4 walls off of tormented
"The thoughts in my mind command my lips to say i hate you, the thoughts from my mind command my hands to cut your silky flesh.
"The thoughts from my mind command my feet to stomp your head, the thoughts from my mind have one question, when will i be dead!
Staind- illusion of progress
"I cant live without, All i think about, all i want is you, your all i dream about, i cant live without, all i want is you.
The things i do, what i go through, and all i say when im away, and what i make and the sh** i take is something you already, already know!
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I think the only radio band I can listen to is Tool. Oh and Alice in Chains. Beyond that Staind and Soundgarden are tolerable. It has really hard for me to listen to artists that use a traditional song structure (always exceptions) but we have Emperor's In The Nightside Eclipse (in particular Into The Infinity of Thoughts) to thank for that. Now I have a trouble listening to anything that isnt progressive or bands that don't follow traditional song structures (like I said there are exceptions). Bands I've really been listenin to lately are Rush, Pink Floyd, Tool, Cynic, Emperor, Porcupine Tree, Radiohead, Bathory, Sunn O))), industrial Sameal, Earth, Lustmord, Opeth, and the new Enslaved album.
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"i tried to give cannibal corpse a try. Man thats the worst sh** ive prolly ever heard" - scary, Korndogg and I agree again! I can't stand that band, man! I enjoy other DM bands, but never could get into those guys.
"I have a trouble listening to anything that isnt progressive or bands that don't follow traditional song structures (like I said there are exceptions)" - I can listen to, and somewhat enjoy anything. But I won't really, REALLY get into a band unless they're progressive or use unusual song structures. For me, progressive/technical/complex/unusual is not only the icing, but half the cake as well.
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TOG- Right on dude, I agree. That is cool that you like the Cure. I never got into them but I always respected the atmosphere they created with albums like Desintegration. I loved the song that they contributed to the Crow soundtrack- which is my favorite soundtrack of all time.
Don't worry, I like the Police and have already gotten a little sh** for it but most people here are cool- unless you have an attitude problem like some of the other posters (which you don't).
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Bruno -- "Burn" was such an incredible song, I always felt it deserved a place on one of their studio albums. Actually, that whole soundtrack was great (except I think there's a couple songs or so that I usually skip). A lot of people hate The Cure though, so it's no big deal. I just personally think they're a very talented, focused group of people who can create a very dark (at times), atmospheric piece of music. Maybe I'm over-analyzing this, though. Also, I like The Police too. I like a lot of "alternative" and other non-metal music, but my first love will always be metal, lol.
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Wow man weird - I've just been getting into the Cure like the last week. Listen to it while walking to work, great stuff. Pornography and Faith are my picks. While we are spitting out random non-metal, anyone like The Doors, Velvet Underground or Joy Division?
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244. writes:
Wow! you folks have been chattin it up! I'm glad a consensus was reached though.
Korndogg: I think Ra was one of the best bands to come from that era! It's like a guilty pleasure. The newest album black sun is currently my favorite cd! My musical tastes come in intervals. But I can always listen to some opeth.
Netromancer: Do you know any folk bands I might like? I know Michael Akerfeldt is heavily enfluenced by folk and was wondering if I might like it too.
JSP: I must apologize for the rudeness, sometimes i'm a twat on these threads.
It's just nice to talk to people who love music as much as I do!
Guitar gear freaks check out uberproaudio.com. It's pretty interesting to see what everyone else plays.
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Drewbacca - if your a guitar/gear freak..? check out my profile..!! I'm a fanatic when it comes to gits and other associated toys ;-)
Shredder - Certainly there is nothing wrong with a little CCR..!!
Bruno - WOW, seeing one of Dimes last shows is a cool memory..!!
I seen Metallica on their MoP tour in June of '86.... which was what, about 6-8 wks before Cliff B. was killed in the bus crash..?
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I actually know someone who met Dimebag, he was my old guitar teachers father. It was about a year before he died. He actually gave him the guitar he used on stage that night. The person actually had no idea who Dime was. They were in a bar at the same time and one of the waiters came over and said that a big rocker just came in and he said well go ahead and buy them a round for me. So then Dime and the rest of Damageplan (I believe) came over and had beers with him.
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Jake - I've actually seen Divine Heresy live and I didn't really like em'. I mean from the songs that I've heard, Dino's guitar work does not come at me good. Although I can say that the band as a whole, certainly has an extreme amount of energy onstage.
Godlike - Yep...you can't go wrong with a little CCR every week or so. They have so many great songs!
\m/ "Cocaine" by Clapton \m/
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255. writes:
AFI! Nice. I kinda liked 10 thousand fists by disturbed as well. I wouldn't dare tell any of my close friends though haha! There was some smack talk between the guitar player from Disturbed and the guitar player from Dillinger Ben Weinman. The singer greg too I believe. Dillinger members claimed to have seen members of disturbed onstage earlier in the day before a show practicing stage moves......If that's true then I think that's hilarious. Dan from Disturbed responded by saying that's what the big boys do when you headline arenas.........I'll just leave it at that.
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Jsin - what's up with you and wishing all of us a Happy James Earl Ray Day? hahaha
Shredder - Haha I guess it does shock some, but I do like them quite a bit. Perhaps I'm biased because the first CD I bought was their album Sing the Sorrow.. but I still treasure it to this day. It's a great album.
I guess I have another confession... I love the Stray Cats.
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Drewbacca - actually, I was quite impressed with the stock PUs in the Turser, but the tuners were a little cheap... a decent set of Grovers later and its a decent guitar for the money I paid for it..
( I bought two of em for $300 a couple years ago..sold one a day later for $200 and Im thinking of selling the one I have left now..)
The first thing I did tho, was to completely strip and sand the finish off the neck.... leaving it just the bare maple with a few thin coats of Tru-Oil gunstock finish... Now it has that ultra smooth feel as found on most old Kramers, Charvels, Jacksons, Ibanez etc..!!
I personally hate the feel of a finished/painted neck.... gets too sticky and gummy way too fast..!!
Ever noticed Zakk Wyldes Gibson LPs..?. They all have raw maple necks... there is a reason for that... they are so much smoother to play on....waaaaay faster \m/
Ive done this to every guitar I own.... stripped and sanded the necks if they are painted..!!
You can see pics of the guitars Ive stripped and customized on myspace... and thats found through my email address listed in my profile..!!
IN - nothing wrong with the Stray Cats... Brian Setzer is an amazing guitarist..!!
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260. writes:
Wow, so much old stuff coming up that I like. I have 2 or 3 Doors cd's, and a few SRV cd's as well. "The Sky Is Crying" is one of my faves. I like alot of Pink Floyd, and a bunch of others. I like old Miles Davis, Billie Holiday, Duke Ellington and some classical like Beethoven, Mozart, Wagner, and Chopin. You can't be all metal all the time. I grew up on country and cajun music, so I still like alot of that. George Strait is the man.
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I've heard of that before! But I always just dismissed it since i'm lazy. :p That sounds a lot better than the slick necks. I like the set necks but I always wondered why I played better on my maple bolt ons. Thanks! I updated my profile with all my goods if you wanna take a gander.
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267. writes:
Once upon a time I downloaded and Atreyu cd. Then deleted it. I pretty well prefer to listen to Greg Howe, Govan, Nevermore, Aghora, Allen Holdsworth, Shawn Lane, Satch and the likes. Basically any group with an amazing lead player.
NP: Jeff Loomis - Devils Theory
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Nu-metal bands are still alive - Nothingface, Spineshank, Dry Kill Logic, to name a few. All have yet to release an album. Korndogg, I actually agree with most of your statements...nu-metal is still around, just not a prevalent, as it used to be. Most of the bands are defunct. i.e. - Motograter
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273. writes:
Corrosion of Conformity is one of my all-time favorite bands. And before anyone starts asking, No I didnt like them before "Blind". Not much of a punk/hardcore fan. Blind, Deliverance, Wiseblood, America's Volume Dealer, Live Volume, In The Arms of God. All kick-ass albums.
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275. writes:
Going back a bit... Journey DOES rule, but The Cure are f***ing brilliant.
Going forward, Corrosion of Conformity - heard one song, hated the sh** out of it, havn't heard anything else since. I could well be missing out on something good, but those guys definitely aren't at the top of my check out list. Nothingface, Spineshank (personal fav) and Dry Kill Logic are all great. Sevendust weren't bad back in the day, I think (?) they're still going. I'll put it out there... I like Hedpe... please don't hurt me hahah :P
Now Playing: Jimi Hendrix - "The Wind Cries Mary"
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276. writes:
Ok, so has anyone ever heard the debut album from "the Cars"..??
That was one of my first albums as a kid.... for being as far from metal as it is, that is one helluva piece of work..!!
And yes, I agree Journey was and still is an excellent band.... and oddly enough with this new singer they've discovered... They just might be onto something big again..? Check it out on Youtube...they finally found a decent replacement for Steve Perry from the Philipines.... The guy is AMAZING.... he does a better cover of Steve Perry, than Steve Perry could manage lately..!!
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Yes - when I was making my very small nu-metal list - I forgot Sevendust...I can't believe it. I also failed to mention American Head Charge. As for Stone Sour - I have only liked the self-titled album...it was great! Good vocals, good lyrical content, heavy for a rock-alt. metal album, cool guitar riffs (Jim Root) of course. In fact, I am going to listen to it tonight. The 2nd stone sour album was way too commercialized..several of the songs ended up on the radio. The first album was better, IMO. If Corey wants to put together a solo album - I will probably buy it.
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From the outside looking in on the Slipknot argument, its funny. I love Slipknot and feel their latest is their most creative album. However, its hard to keep passion for a band that not only has retards for members, but their fans are even worse. Slipknot fans, these days, consist mainly of high school kids that think its the heaviest thing around. I mean sh**, I was a senior in high school when Iowa came out, trust me i used think the same way.
Also, whoever said the thing about Christianity being shoved down our throats, dead on. There should be an opposite to everything and Death and Black Metal brings us that. Although I REALLY do enjoy some Christian metal bands as well like As I Lay Dying.
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280. writes:
heh, well that makes us even, Tx - I forgot American Head Charge. Me and me mate used to love jammin out to Stonesour's debut back in highschool. Havn't listened to it in years, but he's still into all that sort of stuff. I didn't even bother listening to their second album. Jim Root isn't entirely terrible tho.
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282. writes:
corey is a little miget with a 40 foot ego!....his voice is f***ing terrible!...his ego is fu**in way out of line...a solo album?...f*** spare me the pain of this self serving sh** disk!...vol3. best slipknot...why?...because rick rubin had a hand in it!...and corey hated what rick was doing, so i love it even more!...f**k corey taylor!
284. writes:
Rob halford probably. Everybody's all on is d*** these days...hehe
I have yet to check out stone sours debut, but the second album, i think legitimatly had some good stuff on there. Lyrically at least, i thought corey had made vast mature improvements. Sillyworld and 30/30/150 certaintly caught my attention. Although looking back on that album and the majority of songs on it, while looking at all the insanity that I listen to today...that cd wasnt as great as i thought it was haha
Now playing: Lamb of god- In Your Words
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korn is one of the best bands ever just like slipknot and five finger death punch all of slipknots songs are love songs so wats wrong with korn singing about life if slipknot sings about love!!!!!!!!! exactly u guys are f***ing idiots so shut the f*** up unless u make a real point faggets. i bet none of you guys have ever heard of dope or mudvayne have u??????????????? exactly f*** all of you KORN IS THE sh** SO f*** OFF
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I just feel bad that poor kornb**** will be yawning all through homeroom. It is kinda late for the poor lil' guy. He probably won't even have the strength to act embarrassed when his Mummy kisses his cheek as he leaves the mini-van. Awwwwww... Sometimes life is so haaaaard...
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292. writes:
completely off topic, but i need some insights, and couldn't think of a better place!
i just wrote these songs down that i wrote. go over to purevolume dot com / davefbrownell to check out some of myy stuff :D lol unfortunately i just went under pinky finger surgury so i couldn't record them, so it's in MIDI/guitar pro format :( just try to imagine what they would sound like for real
thanx, comments are MOST welcome
Now listening to: To Those That May Be Concerned - Plasmarifle
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1. Shoe Police writes:
Can't imagine this album being any gayer than the latest Slipknot album. He should have saved all the p***y crap for his solo album instead of crappily incorporating it onto the Slipknot album. Nothing will bring them back, they are officially done. Any additional record will have a maximum of 2 or 3 tolerable songs.