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Bands Confirmed For Black Metal Is Rising Festival

The producers of the Black Metal Is Rising festival have issued the following statement:

"This year, again, Les acteurs de L'ombre are proud to present to you the fifth edition of the BLACK METAL IS RISING festival in Paris, France at La Locomotive. The event will take place on the big stage. More than a show of great bands, photo exhibition of Julien Etienne and Vertigo and a merchandising stand by Drakkar will be there to make you have a great moment!"

The festival will occur on May 9th and the following bands have been confirmed so far:

Azziard
Reverence
Glorior Belli
Celestia
Orakle
Nefarium

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1. Kali writes:

I am sorry, this has to be said. Fvck French B.M! I mean come on! Black metal is all about preservation of heritage! What the fvck to the French have to preserve? Their penchant for being wusses?!

# Jan 11, 2009 @ 9:46 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. Jenny writes:

Kalis: A lot of great Blek Metel bands come out of France. In fact, we should all know that great BM music comes from bands all over the world, not just Norway and stuff. Preservation of heritage you say? It may be true in some cases, however that is not the ONLY reason for extreme music. BM is a form of expression of beliefs and ideas from anyone as long as it's different from the common system of society. That's what's important, no matter where a band resides.

# Jan 11, 2009 @ 10:57 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. metalheaddrummer101 writes:

Kali-Yes, we know they lose all the wars:)
Jenny owned verbally:)

# Jan 11, 2009 @ 10:59 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. Kali writes:

Extreme music for the most part is against the grain, but trve black metal is about preservation of self, and heritage, my grasshopper. Why do you think Norwegian black metal is Satanic, or based on Norsk mythology?

# Jan 11, 2009 @ 11:21 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. metalheaddrummer101 writes:

Each culture should preserve it's own heritage in it's black metal, though...

# Jan 11, 2009 @ 11:24 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. Jenny writes:

Kalis: What MHD said on post 5 is my point exactly. Yes, most Norwegian Black Metal is Satanic or based on Norsk Mythology because that is where BM started. Soon, other bands followed by creating the same kind of music but with their own heritage. Satanic concepts and Norsk roots where a topic to begin with (kind o' like a starting point) but as soon as other people got involved, they simply expanded on it. In my opinion, I see nothing wrong with the idea of BM spreading to different parts of the world. :) \m/

# Jan 11, 2009 @ 11:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. Cynic writes:

Ummmm....!!! A few things...

"Black metal is all about preservation of heritage!" "most Norwegian Black Metal is Satanic or based on Norsk Mythology because that is where BM started." - Since when??

If I remember properly, the big 3 innovators of BM were from Denmark, England and Sweden (easy to guess ;) ). And they sung pretty much exclusively about Satan. Maybe you think BM is about heritage Kali (and undoubtedly a lot of bands sing about it), but that doesn't make it so.

Secondly you mention "trve black metal", when French black metal is probably the most truest and psychotically devout black metal there is - i.e. the LLN who I'll quote...

"The bands betray themselves one after the other getting into ideologies that have nothing to do with Satanism ( Nazism, Viking Culture) missing up the original BLACK METAL style in all sorts of stinking and intolerable mixtures" ... "Our father the lord SATAN has commissioned us to purify Satanism and BLACK METAL, to set them free from this human plague that infects them. The persecution has begun and will be more and more terrible until the total annihilation of all those impostors that so easily thought they could play with Blackness with impurity. "

etc - and since the prolific (and awesome) LLN has been around since the early 90s they're as true as you get.

And you wouldn't call someone a Nazi for being German would you? So why is it OK to call a the French wusses?

And Celestia rules!

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 12:51 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. Kali writes:

Cynic, please do me a favor and quote me properly when constructing an argument. I said nothing of black metal starting with the Norwegians, but you do know full well it is the Scandanavians who started the black metal movement, yes?

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 1:02 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. Cynic writes:

No I crammed a quote from Jenny in there because I was responding to both - although later I mentioned something just for you so sorry for the confusion.

Scandanavians who started black metal? If I remember correctly the term black metal comes from a lil' ol' British band named Venom.

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 1:05 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. Kali writes:

Also, when the French actually win a war I will stand down and call them warrior's, but until then especially in this day in age, they are p***ys in my opinion.

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 1:05 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. Kali writes:

Good to know, Cynic! Yes, Venom were the first to be coined "black metal," but they were not the first trve black metal band, in my opion. That award goes to Mayhem for me.

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 1:07 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. Cynic writes:

For me it's definitely Bathory, which was quite a few years before Mayhem and still sounded as black metal as Satan himself.'

But I digress, the whole point of what I was saying is that to state black metal is foremost about heritage is wrong, Satanism is the strongest undercurrent in "true" black metal bands. In fact, most of the early bands didn't even mention it, it was kill, crush, Satan, death, goat, demon etc.

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 1:14 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. Kali writes:

My whole point is what do the French have to preserve that is of any strength? Wine? Not being able to win a battle? b****ing about everything? French black metal is a joke to me.

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 1:20 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. Cynic writes:

America has what, 500 years of history? Compared to French 2000+? - does that mean Watain suck? Why does where someone is born determine how good their music is?

Noktu, Vorlok Drakkstein etc are unsung black metal heros imo.

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 1:32 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. Kali writes:

Defend all you want your Frenchie-foo-foo-fag-nasty bands all ya want, Cynic, I am still going to degrade them. French black metal is a joke to me. End of story!

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 2:35 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. Kali writes:

By the way, America is only 300 years old, and has won more wars than the French ever could!

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 2:37 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. Cynic writes:

Not much of a story then. Hey I'm not going to lose any sleep, neither I'm sure would Blut aus Nord, Mutiilation, Deathspell Omega etc.

Also in terms of heritage, if I remember properly most of the black metal band sing about it because their ancestors were slaughtered and taken control of by the Christians - should we all be praising the strength of Christian might because they won a war? Hell no.

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 2:42 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. Cynic writes:

My bad I can't say I know American history too well, I just took Columbus to be the start.

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 2:44 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. Kali writes:

I also have a huge hatred towards the French as they sit there and say "we are your friends, we are your allies" and yet where the fvck are these p***ies when we need them?! I admire true strength, and true friendship, and never once seen it from a Frenchie.

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 2:48 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. Cynic writes:

You talk about hating NSBM - but what's the difference between hating (your word not mine) someone because of their race and hating because of their nationality?

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 2:52 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. Kali writes:

French is not a race. It is a nation of people, but not a race. One could be of dark skin, and French. Being raceist is to hate someone because of their eye color, and skin color.

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 2:57 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. Cynic writes:

I didn't say being French was a race I was asking what's the difference between hating someone because they were born on certain soil and hating someone because there skin is a different color?

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 2:59 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. Kali writes:

Well, it seems the water in France makes people weak. Perhaps the wine is too weak? Cynic, truly you may try to make me sound raceist, or what not over this debate, but your argument is not very strong to me.

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 3:02 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. Kali writes:

I hate to try to pull the "9/11 card," but you are not an American. You did not have to send out more men un-nessicarally due to the fact your "allies" would not help your war.

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 3:07 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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25. Cynic writes:

My argument is crystal logic (lol a wee metal pun there). On one hand you chastise people for hating others based on nothing but their skin colour and a bunch of stereotypes about blacks, jews etc, yet on the other you do the exact same to someone based on nothing but stereotypes of French people.

And go on and say that all the French people you've met are weak etc, I'm sure a Nazi would have the exact same rhetoric for a black person.

I'm definitely not trying to make you sound racist, I'm just saying I can't see any logic for hating NSBM but also hating bands just because they are French!

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 3:08 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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26. Kali writes:

Even after this debate Cynic, if you needed me to help out a war you had, I would do it in a heart beat. Wether or not I thought you were completly in the right. THAT is true strength, and friendship.

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 3:09 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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27. Cynic writes:

Does that also mean that blacks are correct in hating and blaming whites? Pulling the slavery card is ok? No of course not, blanket hating of any stereotype is wrong because people are not stereotypes.

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 3:10 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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28. Cynic writes:

I know Kali, I consider you a friend too - I'm just a complete a$$hole when it comes to debating :P

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 3:11 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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29. Kali writes:

Cynic, name me one French person you have met that was truly strong, and I will recant my statement.

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 3:13 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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30. Kali writes:

The blacks hateing white people for slavery is a joke too. That ensued what? Since the Civil war? Not a single person alive today, or in the past 150 or some odd years has had anything to do with black slavery.

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 3:16 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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31. Kali writes:

The wounds of having to send my brother in law to war are new, and the French millitary has alot to do with it due to the fact they would not help us out when we needed it. So, yeah. I am very bitter towards the French, and do not view French black metal as anything of true strength.

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 3:20 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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32. Kali writes:

To further why I had to send my brother in law to Iraq, is that he is (was at the time, he is since then active ARMY) National guard. He should have stayed in the states, but due to lack of troops in Iraq our National guard had to be deployed. Had the French been there that would have not been an issue.

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 3:23 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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33. Cynic writes:

I've only ever seen meet known one Irish person in my life, and he was a complete wanker. But that doesn't prove anything about the Irish. That's like saying it's ok to hate black people, because statistically they commit more crimes.

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 3:25 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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34. Cynic writes:

Does that mean it's ok for Iraqis to hate all Americans? Is it ok for Jews to hate all Germans? Hating a stereotype just doesn't seem right to me, all races, creeds and nationalities have good and bad people. And I consider the people in Celestia to be badass.

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 3:28 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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35. Kali writes:

Well, Cynic. When you are in the shoes of an American, come to me and tell me how you feel.

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 3:30 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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36. Kali writes:

Honestly Iraqis hate Americans, and I am fine with that. It is alright to be jelouse of the fact we have freedom, and they don't. A Jew who has been through ww2 has every right to hate Germans.

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 3:34 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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37. Cynic writes:

I think it's not about how we feel, it's about what we feel is right. That's my waffly way off saying I do feel your pain about your brother in law and hope he is ok - I'm off to bed now though, I'll catch you when I'm feeling less argumentative :P

Now Playing: Celestia - "The Radiance of the Astral Circle"

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 3:36 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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38. Kali writes:

Fvck I love MU! I have had an awesome debate with you, Cynic! I am having fun! The Darkthrone convo was fun too! :)

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 3:37 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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39. Kali writes:

Thank Satan he came back to us in one piece! Sleep well, Cynic! Talk to you later, man!

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 3:39 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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40. graveland writes:

without the help of the French, the militiamen would have lost the Revolutionary War and the British would probably still rule this land today. So you should brush up on your history.

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 6:12 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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41. bananaterracottapie1 writes:

C'mon! Isnt metal supposed to be all about the music? I think it would be really fvckin ignorant to hate a band for its nationality. That is discrimination with the 'nation' part justified. lol. I mean, fvckin Gojira is from France! Suck on that! I'm from India and my country's got a kickass black metal-influenced band called Demonic Ressurection. Check 'em out.


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# Jan 12, 2009 @ 7:38 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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42. Jenny writes:

Aw sh!t I cannot believe this turned political at one point lol. OK, BM is all about the topic of Satanistic ideas/thougs/beliefs. That in itself is perservation of 'self' because inividuals from anywhere have that brain power. BM is all about the music and the messege. I don't care where it started or what people embraced it. And in Bathory, Quorthon himself said sometimes a band just sings about things like that cuz it sounds cool; and it's all about painting a picture.

Post 41 has it down :)

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 10:45 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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43. Jenny writes:

Hail The Hordes!

NP: "Death and Ressurection of a Northern Son" -BATHORY

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 10:49 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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44. Kali writes:

May I also remind you people that I am Spanish Basque, and my people have been off, and on with war with the French. If hateing mine enimies makes me "ignorant" then so be it! Atleast I have strength enough to voice my hatred, and would gladly kick the shiet out of a Frencie!

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 11:56 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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45. Kali writes:

AT war*

# Jan 12, 2009 @ 12:04 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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46. bananaterracottapie1 writes:

You cant blame an entire country for your own personal rivalries. The bands mentioned above havent done anything to incite your genocidal hatred. f***. We are all human beings for f***in sake! Hell, I wouldnt mind screwin a British chick inspite of all the torture and bloodshed imposed on my country by her countrymen in the past. Because SHE wasnt a part of it. Get my point? She has to be reaaally f***in hot and thats all that matters to me.

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# Jan 13, 2009 @ 7:00 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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47. Blindgreed1 writes:

genocide? I think that might be going a bit far banana. Kali doesn't respect the French. Can't we just leave it at that? Regardless, I'll bet the rest of this bill is going to shape up nicely.

NP: Hell Awaits - Slayer

# Jan 13, 2009 @ 10:42 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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48. Bind.Torture.Kill writes:

I see the points both Cynic and Kali are making.

1) Black Metal started in the UK with Venom. That is the original Black Metal sound. Black Metal style wasn't perfected until Bathory and Mayhem came into the picture.

2) The french tend to be given a bad rep for pussing out. While I have fun joking about it with my girlfriend (who is part french), I think the government decisions to stay out of a conflict shouldn't be something we take as "The whole country are a bunch of p***ies." In which case I feel one should give the music a chance.
2.1) But this doesn't stop me from cracking jokes about the French to my girlfriend.

3) Yes Black Metal has a lot to do with heritage, I think that started with Bathory. But Black Metal doesn't necessarily have to be a heritage thing in order to be trve (There are Black Metal bands out there that aren't heritage-oriented, they just aren't coming to mind right now). However it would be cool to see Black Metal from Africa or "Trve Native-American Black Metal" (Seriously, the Swedes and the Norsk think they got material to be p***ed about in Black Metal. Imagine what the Natives of the Americas and Africa want to lash out against in their music whenever the scene starts).

4) Everyone needs to check out the Sri Lanka Black Metal scene! Funeral in Heaven is awesome!

And with that, I'll probably add more input later. I have to get ready for work.

Stay Trve, Stay Brutal, Horns, Hail.

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