Dave Mustaine Sells Coffee For Mexican Orphanage
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Megadeth front man Dave Mustaine issued the following statement on his official website's forum:
"I just wanted to take the time to inform you of my privilege to be able to make a contribution today to the Door of Faith orphanage in Mexico. Thanks to all of the Net Worth Coffee Brokers customers and 'Mustaine Coffee Crew Members,' we were able to come through for the orphanage again this year.
Like I mentioned in my post in the Members Only area of the Coffee Crew site, 'I wanted to take this time to point out to you the tremendous success that we have had with Net Worth Coffee Brokers, Inc.,' and 'inform you that we are able to make a sizeable donation to the orphanage before the end of the year.' We were also able to purchase a large order again this year from Elaine Hinton and our friends at Hasbro Toys."
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214 Comments on "Dave Mustaine Sells Coffee For Mexican Orphanage"
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what, you couldnt find any orphanges here in america to help out?......FUK YOU DAVE (EGO-FUKHEAD) MUSTAINE!!!!! MOVE TO MEXICO THEN YOU FUKIN PIECE OF SH1T......this pile of horse sh1t just lost all respect from me....i dont care if any readers are mad at me....fuk him and his coffee selling, mexican loving a$$!!!!!!
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We are all entitled to our opinions, but I think I might know why he would choose to help a mexican orphanage. I worked 4 years in the Childcare/Child-Psyche field. Our orphanages and Children's Home's have massive Gov't funding for food and housing, as well as many citizen run programs that bring money, toys, clothes, what have you, into these facilities. These programs also take care of seasonal spending such as Easter Baskets, Christmas presents, Halloween costumes, etc.
These arent a given for many of these orphanages or children's home's in Mexico. Many people are under the poverty level and money simply doesnt exist for programs to help these kids. While I am all for helping our own here in the States, these kids are getting something from a charity that they more than likely wouldnt get from their own people. Just my 2 cents on it. Lord knows I havent always been a fan of Dave, but I think his heart's int he right place on this.
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People all over the world need help. People are people, we are all one and the same; just cuz those in need are not on our soil doesn't mean they can't ever have a chance at getting help. True, tons of people are in need here in America, but America has people who can do something about it if they really wanted to. Not all counties have access to help their own people, so it is up to kind souls (from anywhere) to do something about it.
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"what, you couldnt find any orphanges here in america to help out?......FUK YOU DAVE (EGO-FUKHEAD) MUSTAINE!!!!! MOVE TO MEXICO THEN YOU FUKIN PIECE OF SH1T......this pile of horse sh1t just lost all respect from me....i dont care if any readers are mad at me....fuk him and his coffee selling, mexican loving a$$!!!!!!"
laaaaaaaaaaaaaaawl. Really? America has WAY more than enough resources to put every child to school + 4 years through college. America needs help..lol. Society needs help.
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Charity begins at home...not in friggin Mexico...regardless of how much money you think America has...we have similiar problems here cause the rich get richer and the poor keep getting poorer, but then again at least it didnt go to the Obama lovers.....scumbags....
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Unlike American politicians, Mustaine is a citizen of the world and free to help anyone he chooses. I wish I could somehow package branded up and send him to the orphanages in Belarus/Ukraine/Russia, maybe then he'll see how out of touch he is. But I'm sure he'll work to put every US kid through college before he considers the rest of the world. You remember the world, right?
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yes cynic, i remember the world, but they dont give a rats a$$ about us, so i feel the same about them!!!!! how many countries have done what they can to rape our country? yes the u.s. did it and now its our turn, but the freakin saddest part is, the fukers have paid off our own politicians to destroy america....
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I would just like to point out that the so-called poor and desolate of america, would be kings in a place like mexico. I've worked with mexicans working for 6 bucks an hour, and were building a mansion back home on that money. Not saying I support their actions, I don't jsut using it to make a point.
Our "poor" are doin just fine. Go to Africa and see entire countries composed of AIDS infected starving chi8ldren barely survivng, and then come back to america nd tell me your bills are hard to pay. I know sh**s hard on the bottom rung of the economic ladder we live on here in the states sometimes, but from the rest of the world's perspective, we're complaining about smudges on our gold-paved streets.
I appreciaate what Dave is doing, but I think it's funny how he had to issue a statement declaring that he did this (hey everyone, look how much of a good samaritan I am! I'm the sh** cuz I help other people in the world! Pay attention to me!)
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First off..F%$k africa! Let them die of aids and while were at it send the ones we got here back too, and let them see if there spinnin rims and rap music feed them. Our roads arent paved with gold here and many are losing there homes and are having a hard time putting food on the table for there children...we need to start taking care of our own first before we worry about someone else....can you truly tell me all of our problems are solved here in america?
Oh and the whole starving aids in africa crap sickens me....if your that poor and hungry you shouldnt have any energy to F^%K....SO PISS ON EM!
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I think it depends...I mean Africa is worse off than Mexico. But parts of Mexico are worse off than we are. But...Could you really deny one starving kid food because they're American? That's cold to me. I think I'm exaggerating that point but...My point is poverty is poverty is poverty. Saddest part is, I think it might be inevitable. Someone has to be at the bottom of the ladder.
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like i said already, i dont carfe what any1 thinks of me about this 1. i trully dont care. hes just another american trying to look good for whoever by helping out ANOTHER COUNTRIES people. LETS SEE, JUST ASKING THIS QUESTION HERE, HAS ANY1 EVER HEARD OF HIM HELPING OUT AMERICANS LIKE THIS? just asking.....
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"trying to look good for whoever by helping out ANOTHER COUNTRIES people" - Shocking, appalling! Who would do such a thing! *end sarcasm*
dubdubdub.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/mustaine%20makes%20christmas%20special%20for%20california%20kids_1054465 - Mustaine helps childeren of those serving in Iraq. And to those who think he's making a big deal out of this, jeezus, he couldn't be more humble about it.
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Your opinions are your own, and you are entitled to them. I see the point many here are trying to make. Still, I refuse to put anyone down for helping anyone. Is it for publicity? Maybe. Are there Americans here who need help? Definately. The bottom line is kids got helped out. Doesn't matter who or what or why to me. I was raised to show respect and pride in my country, but we arent the only people on this planet. If some kids got helped, Im good with that.
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I don't defend the acts of dictators and politicians, I support the right for the poor to have basic human needs. A country is just a piece of land ruled by a select few, humans are humans. And America's hands are hardly the clean of blood in this "back turning" either.
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Branded - you say that other countries have turned their back on america. Is this possibly because it is one of the most well off countries in the world and could take care of its own relatively minor socio-economic problems by itself? Do you expect third world countries to render aid?
No offense man but what you are stating here makes no sense - only a richer country could help america but there really aren't any better off in the world at this moment in time.
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"ok he helped out american kids, thats good. but big deal helping out the mexican kids...." - That's probably one of the most heinous things I've ever heard a person say - a child is a child no matter which country it has been born into. Every child deserves love, respect and basic human rights, not just American children.
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cynic, here in charlotte nc, if you are a white guy, which i am, noone wants to hire you. everywhere i go i see white women, black women blaqck guys and latinos everywhere, but no white guys. i prefer restaraunt work (PREP COOK, GRILL COOK, ETC...)...and here if you are not latino, female, or black then no jobs for you. not making this a racial thing, but its the truth. i have tried everywhere there is to apply in this city, but nothing, no call backs, nothing. and i see all of our jobs going to other countries so they can save money and get richer. now, oour country is slowly sinking into the depths of a 2nd great depression. and all i ever see and hear is about how this country needs to help out other countries and send billions and billions and billions of dollars that will never be paid back anyways. SO FUK THE REST OF THE WORLD AND IF YOU OR ANY1 HERE HATES ME FOR HOW I FEEL I TRULLY DONT GIVE A FUK!!!!
i have been stuck at home for over two months now due to noone hiring white guys. where is the, in your words, "respect and basic human rights"?? i know you were directing that the kids, but that goes for all humans, not just kids!!!!
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its quite simple cynic. the people who are in control of hiring are hiring every1 but white guys here. charlotte is becoming a haven for racial strife and white guys are the target here. for example, i applied at hooters, and in the back were nothing but latinos, and in the front were 99 percent white women and a copuple of blk women. (thankfully no guys up front) !!!!!...lololol...
every place i applied is looking for cheaper labor so they can save money to make the owners get richer and richer. i have tried applying in other fields of work, but i have checked back only to see the jobs go to latinos, like you said, who work cheaper. like i said, not making this a racial thing, but its the truth here. some places are even requiring spanish/english speaking people only to be hired...WTF??!!...why should we learn another language just because they refuse to learn ours?!?!?!...its been going this way for years. our govt has allowed these foriegn people to come in work cheap, kill and rape americans, and get away with it. now, many jobs are no longer here in this country. its a slow trend to "spread the wealth" to other countries, and flush america down the toilet like a turd.
btw every1, send your money to north korea, they need it to help build their army up, and let their children starve in the streets...(sarcasm all the way on that 1) but thats another example. all this money going to other countries to help their poor, is being used to build armies, palaces for their leaders, etc. and we sit here and think we are actually helping do some good....
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Not all the charity money sent is being used for that branded - especially not if the charities involved have people on the ground in the countries. Sure enough some funds get misappropriated but what do you expect in dictatorial situations where the army backed mob rules. It's even better when the money goes to things like well drilling projects or irrigation, because those projects have unbelievable benefits.
Also its not fair that you are not receiving work because of your race, or whatever motivations they have but the aid being sent out is buying vaccinations and schooling for starving dying children. I don't want to insult you, but its not like you're starvin or dying of chronic dysentery.
I know what you're saying about America solving its' own probs first, and if they put some of the money from the NASA or Army budgets, I think those situations could be resolved faster. But I'm sure there is some rationalization for this - economic destabilisation, or too much like communism or some bullsh** reasons.
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you are correct IM im not, but my wife and i are falling behind on bills, low on food, and have trouble getting the basic needs we need ourselves due to the racist hiring practices here in charlotte. yet, all over this city, there are thousands of blacks and latinos who have jobs and collect welfare and dont need it. i myself have not tried applying for it, and im not going to. i want a fukin job!!
also, IM, why send money to countries that the US govt knows is going to use it for reasons other than what they said it was for?!?! kinda funny!!!!
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o forgot to say that american schools are so fukd up now, that we need to fix our educational system before we help other countries schools out. but the govt has made the educational system fail so the american people look dumb and they can take over the schools to "educate" the children!!!!
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I live in Raleigh, and honestly, yes, it is as bad as Branded says. Worked 2 and a half yrs in construction before the market tanked. All my crew were aware of the coming changes so if anyone says we should have been more aware, trust me, we were. My problem is that the job market is now glutted with laid off contruction workers as well as those laid off from businesses related to construction as well. Lumber yards, caterpillar drivers, hardware stores, etc. There are very few jobs to be found here, and those openings are filled very quickly. I also would rather work than get my money free from the Gov't.
Also the "No Child Left Behind" and similar programs lower standards and urge teachers to pass kids simply on the merit of showing up. I agree with much of what Branded says. We do have problems in the States that need addressing.
I do stand by what I said at the beginning of the thread concerning the kids, however.
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"yes cynic, i remember the world, but they dont give a rats a$$ about us, so i feel the same about them!!!!!"
Two wrongs don't make a right. The U.S. has never jumped in to help anyone, ever. Unless absolutely necessary or if the homeland or any of its trading partners are in jeopardy. WW2? Iraq? The U.S. is famous for sitting idly by and doing nothing but benefit their own. Your complaining about not having a job because "every other country" is taking your job but aren't you sitting in front of a computer? Paying for Internet, electricity and computer maintenance? Besides, how did the government get involved in this? It's Mustaine selling coffee and donating money to needy CHILDREN. The U.S. is a country where you don't need to work to make money and your complaining about your own? Your/our own is practically fed through a sippy cup compared to others.
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oh and to what D.I.E said. Yeah, more than likely there will always be someone at the bottom of the ladder getting stepped on. (Pray they don't find oil in Africa) But I think it's should be a global task to raise the global living standard. Especially below the equator.
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Hey! Me Wiggles and Psythe live below the equator! :P I had a lot to say but I think bristowe said it for me. I don't disagree branded and on a community scale I agree supporting your own. But in the end, America is one of the richest and undoubtedly the most powerful nation on earth. It may have problems, but hundreds of others fall woefully underneath and it's the children who suffer. Mustaine as a love/hate personality but is a guy who really cares.
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Your complaining about not having a job because "every other country" is taking your job but aren't you sitting in front of a computer? Paying for Internet, electricity and computer maintenance?
well if i could get hired somewhere id wouldnt be here bsing about this sh1t. id be working, but the jobs are all taken here by welfare receiving illegals.
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The U.S. has never jumped in to help anyone, ever.
Unless absolutely necessary or if the homeland or any of its trading partners are in jeopardy.
you dont think the "homeland" is in jeopardy now with all the illegals raping and killing americans on a daily basis, while our govt keeps granting asylum to these pieces of trash?!?!?! man, what reality do you live in? their so called trading partners are the ones helping destroy this country and the govt is paid off to let it happen.
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I don't know how this turned into a 'illegals are taking our jobs' sort of conversation, but I honestly believe that this topic deals with the CHILDREN. For the sake of an example, lets say Dave helped an orphanage in America. It would be helping our own, but that wouldn't solve any problems that ADULTS are experiencing with our economy; just sayin. And a final note, Post 56 said it all for me.
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Haha, my bad, well in general, right around the equator, give or take is part of the most poverty stricken areas.
I see a lot of your points branded, but I really only see them as being broad statements. How are their trading partners killing the U.S.? Tommy Hilfiger, Nike and Addidas are all provided to you by sweat shops from Indonesia, China etc. etc. because it is cheaper. But they are all owned by American shareholders. Also, honestly, How many "illegals" are raping and killing Americans on a daily basis? If they're are so many statistics proving this, how come the issue isn't addressed, and foremost, for these facts to be taken, they would have had to have been caught already. However, upon being caught, they wouldn't have any papers, and be deported. Right? So that couldn't really be true.
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"Heinous."
With ALL due respect, Kali :)
You know I'd never correct you in a condescending manner. My english teacher, Mrs. Eyre, instilled in me a love of the English language. I thank her to this day. But I'm also over-obsessed with my own grammar and spelling. Unless I've had a few beers then everything goes...
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Yea I get that Branded and I completely agree that people should hire their own countrymen first, rather than cheaper foreign nationals.
But I do have to say again the money sent in aid largely does get to the people who need it, especially if organizations have people on the ground there. Sure the dictators are a problem, but without armed intervention, and we all know how that ends up, there is no way to stop them.
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Maybe you should cut off your internet bill branded if you want more food and basic needs for you and your wife
i use the net not just for browsing metal sites but to look for jobs as well.
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I see a lot of your points branded, but I really only see them as being broad statements. How are their trading partners killing the U.S.? Tommy Hilfiger, Nike and Addidas are all provided to you by sweat shops from Indonesia, China etc. etc. because it is cheaper. But they are all owned by American shareholders. Also, honestly, How many "illegals" are raping and killing Americans on a daily basis? If they're are so many statistics proving this, how come the issue isn't addressed, and foremost, for these facts to be taken, they would have had to have been caught already. However, upon being caught, they wouldn't have any papers, and be deported. Right? So that couldn't really be true.
well, these "shareholders" get richer off those jobs being sent to cheap a$$ labor overseas. and all you have to do is search online for the statistics of the illegals and their reign of terror in america, or are you just not wanting to know or care about it?
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This thread is a good example of why alot of people hate Americans. We have an individual who is helping out children in a country less fortunate than us, and we have people who piss and moan because they're not the ones being helped out. Im sure life is hard branded, but c'mon man, this had nothing to do with the gov't or illegal immigrants, it was simply dave helping children out that i guarrantee are in a worse situation than you are... yeah we do have problems here and it can be hard... My family is really poor as well, but im still able to go to college because of scholarships and financial aid paying my way, and i live in michigan, one of the most financially ustable states in the US. There are lots of opportunites in the US while there arent in 3rd world countries.... people that are b****ing about this are just cold-hearted bastards that are mad because they would rather be the ones getting help.
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gutter, lets see you get discriminated against and see latinos get all the fukin jnobs and see jow you feel towards them. but like i said i dont fukin care what people think of me or my opinions on this one. im not asking for handouts, im asking for a job. but due to being non minority, no jobs for me!!!! so go ahead and claim w/e you want about me, i dont care!
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no matter how sh**ty your situation is, saying that dave helping out orphans in Mexico is a bad thing just isnt right.
Dave is one of the few people with alot of money that are doing something to better the world with it, lets not complain about it in hopes that others will do the same.
sorry about u not having a job tho man... me and my mom lost our house 2 years ago, but it wasnt because of discrimination, she had 2 sh**ty jobs that still wouldnt cover the bills
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i know the feeling, i was homeless for 3 yrs, so dont think im some spoiled american. im just tired of all this BS about how americans need to help out every other country in this world while our own country is being destroyed from the inside out. if all these rich people feel bad and want to help the needy, go find a homeless person, get them some new clothes, a hotel room for a month. lets help our own country out 1ST. thats all i am saying. to hell with every1 else till our own probs are solved!!!
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Intense thread! Gutter, you touched on a point that is important. This has nothing to do with the governments of Mexico and the United States. Dave, a private citizen, made a donation to a private charity. It's great that he has chosen to use some of his money to do some good in the world.
Also, it is CHARITY; it's not a loan. There should be no expectation of receiving anything, monetarily or otherwise, from those donated to. You are extending a helping hand to those less fortunate than yourself.
The assertion that the U.S. has never come to the aid of anyone is just ridiculous. The United States has helped countless other countries both monetarily and militarily (try the millions of dollars spent fighting AIDS and malaria in Africa and the Korean War to begin with.)
The United States does have a problem with illegal immigration. We feel it in places like the welfare system. But, certainly, most of these immigrants want only to work hard and make money for their families abroad. There are, however, a certain cross-section of illegals who commit "heinous" crimes; most notably much of the hispanic gangs in my home of southern California. Crimes committed by these people, especially rape or homicide, are much more regrettable because they shouldn't have been allowed to reside in the country in the first place. In other words, this crime was preventable.
And my last point. No one has mentioned the benefits of cheaper labor. Less expensive labor costs means lower prices for consumers. No one is defending brutal and unsafe working conditions, but, barring those specifically egregious offenders, is it not in the best interest of many people to reduce the prices of said goods and services?
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Ok, well US government HAS helped international problems in the past, but that's really in the past. Where's the point in burning billions of dollars with the whole iraq situation while your social security and public healthcare sucks?? I dont even wanna go into the whole "Iraq this Iraq that" thing, but you know, Bin Laden's not there, Hussein got it, so where's the point now? If they wanna kill each other, let them. It's the way of the world. There's plenty of more important things to do with all those dollars back home.
As for illegal immigrants taking jobs... well, they are taking the entry level jobs. And that's a global problem (a problem... well more likely just the way of the world. In Europe, all so-called entry level jobs goes to the eastern europeans and people from the baltic countries)
And finally, my favorite topic, Dave Mustaine. He's a c***. Bronze medal, after Axl Rose (and followed by Phil Anselmo and Scott Weiland sharing the 3rd position)
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Jamez- The reason why the healthcare system sucks in the US is because of the illegals. i live in CA and between 1996-2004 over 200 hundred hospitals were closed in my state alone because the illegals drained our system with their anchor babies and false documents. Who do you think ends up paying for their operations? The taxpayers like myself.
Treacherous J Quick- Unfortunateky the cheap labor usually equates to the consumer paying the same price, just the manufacturer of the item gets more profit by paying a bunch border jumpers $2-3 an hour. You think they higher illegals for the noble reason of helping out the consumer? Don't be so naive, dude.
NAFTA should be abolished.
I think the only thing that would make the lawmakers finally wake and secure the border is if terrorists commit an attack by sneaking in from Mexico (which they could easily do.)
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"or are you just not wanting to know or care about it?"
Well if you are going to argue a point, you usually support your point with evidence. I don't need to do your homework for you. We don't need to help out Americans because they have the ability to help themselves. But the children in Poverty stricken countries don't have the resources to make a f***in loaf of bread let alone begin to think about looking for a job. This seems to be more of a chip on your shoulder rather than the entire nations shoulder.
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branded stfu, none cares about what you think of him kid
im 33, and no i will not stfu...ill keep spouting my hatred just to irritate you!!!
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Jamez- The reason why the healthcare system sucks in the US is because of the illegals. i live in CA and between 1996-2004 over 200 hundred hospitals were closed in my state alone because the illegals drained our system with their anchor babies and false documents. Who do you think ends up paying for their operations? The taxpayers like myself.
and the sad thing is that all those illegals dont care about the destruction they are bringing upon american. they come here to rot out america from the inside, and the taxpayers have to pay for it, and the govt. does nothing to stop it..!!
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"and the sad thing is that all those illegals dont care about the destruction they are bringing upon american. they come here to rot out america from the inside, and the taxpayers have to pay for it, and the govt. does nothing to stop it..!!"
What like America has been doing to other countries for the last 60 years? I'm not one to believe in Karma, but that is a just example right there.
I'm also pretty sure you haven't been denied every job in the United States.
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ive already said the US has done it to other countries, and now its our turn. but our own politicians are helping it happen.
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You just gotta be willing to take a pay cut man. Sorry.
id be happy to take a pay cut. i havent worked jobs where i get 9-10 dollars an hour so dont think that. im used to around 7 bucks an hr. but now, there are no jobs in my area. at least not for non minority people...(whites)
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eh branded, while i see where ur coming from, our government is actually reaping alot more lands then helping them...i mean sh** we LIVE on stolen land (trail of tears dude, we stole this sh** from the indians, who arent even INDIAN!). but yeah, this guy has nothing to do with teh government, or people saying the government should help, he's just using his money to help out someone. not cuz the government told him too
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Besides man, it's just plain economics. Why would an employer pay you $7 when they can offer it to someone else for less? I bet if more people like you accept jobs that pay $5 or less, then you'd drive the minority out of jobs. The thing is, the minority where you live can survive on lower pay than you do. I hope I don't sound racist saying this though, but that's just fact. Minorities can survive on less pay.
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Many of you have stated that you think its great that Dave Cumstain is doing this to help less fortunate kids abroad and while that is a really warm and fuzzy idea for this time of year many of you have disregarded the economic truth of the matter. Dave will write this off on his taxes as a contribution to charity. He will write off every penny of it and enable himself to keep more money come February. Branded needs work and is willing to earn his money which is a lot more than I can say for the illegal aliens that come here and churn out 25 kids and live off of our tax money and our system. I agree that Dave should have kept his money stateside because I pay taxes here and the more Dave gives to kids in Mexico, the more i'll have to pay in February. While I do understand that there are less fortunate children abroad (I have an adopted sister from Africa), I also understand that Dave is doing this for Dave. Nothing more... Nothing less.
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I've just gained a lot of respect for Dave Mustaine on this one. He's a very humble man when it comes to his charity work. As for some of you readers, here goes....
branded -- Why is it such a bad thing if someone helps those in another country? Do they not need help more than we do? Look at Africa and Mexico, and many places in Asia and elsewhere in the world. Things are so bad, I'd love to go and help them out if I were fortunate enough to be able to do it. If you wouldn't do the same, shame on you. It's called decency, look it up.
TimW -- You're so ignorant, I won't even waste my time on you.
Blindgreed1 and Bruno -- Yeah, he might be doing this for a tax break, but regardless, he's helping out and doing a good thing.
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TOG: we're going to have to agree to disagree on that one brother. I feel as though Dave is getting a tax break from paying American taxes. Keep the money here. Our economy is in a downward spiral right now and the more money we send out of the country; the more that will be taken from you and I. As I said, I do understand that there are less fortunate people on this earth, but that will always be the case. At this point I feel it would be better to keep American dollars in America. It's just one man's opinion.
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tog its called worrying about my own life and not someone else. you can try to make me look like im some indecent person all you want, i dont fukin care. i have helped numerous people out in my lifetime. so go ahead and try to sh1ttalk me about this one. its not going to change how i feel...
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branded -- I'm not trying to sh**talk you, I'm just saying that decency is something that everybody should have at least a little bit of, especially this time of year.
Blindgreed -- I hear you, and your point is well-put. Maybe he is just in it for the tax break. But the way I look at it, though, helping out others is still helping out others, regardless of reason.
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1. Branded, I can't help but notice that you want to find restaurant work, a market that is hurting intensely due to the recession, which means less jobs available. You said you want work as a chef. Did you bother to ask the minority workers what they got hired as? Hint: they aren't all chefs.
2. "Keeping American dollars in America" has absolutely nothing to do with America's economy. The amount of dollars readily available in the system aren't an indicator of economic prosperity, the GDP is. Also, the only way your money goes overseas is by buying products from international companies, or by donating to charities. Don't want money to go overseas? You can start by only buying American-made, American-manufactured products. Let's see how long that lasts.
3. The cost of living in Mexico is less than it is in America. This means charity money sent there goes further than it does here. Also, building up foreign economies means they can become trade partners with us, something that increases our wealth. We get "paid back" in the long run.
4. Have any of you actually lived off welfare? It's not something you want to do for longer than you have to.
5. You can always complain about someone not supporting Charity X instead of Charity Y. As long as someone is doing something, it's a good thing, no matter the reason for it (ex. tax writeoffs).
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Gas: 1.)You are incorrect when you say "the only way your money goes overseas is by buying products from international companies, or by donating to charities". Even American companies use foreign parts or have the assembly done in foreign countries. Look at Ford. A Ford auto is an American product assembled in Mexico and only 13% of the parts are made in America. That is money going to foreign countries. That is just the tip of the iceberg.
2.) Do we get paid back in the long run? You think so? I guess you've already forgotten how expensive gas was three months ago. Our "pals" in Mexico were reaping that profit off of us more then the Arabs were because most of our foreign oil (at least where I live) comes from our "pals" in Mexico. Mexico is already a "trade partner" with the US and in the long run I got screwed.
3.) No, I have never lived off of welfare, however, the people that do make a way of life out of it. It is much easier for them (as people of color) to receive benefits and live off of them than it would ever be for Branded (being a white man). I know people that live off the system here and i'll tell you that you have no idea what you are talking about if you honestly think it's harder for them to be on wellfare than it is for them to get off wellfare.
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TOG: Are you or your wife people of color? That is the point I was trying to make. I never implied that it was easy for caucasions to live off the system. In fact, it's nearly impossible. Especially if you are honest about your situation. Most of the people who live off wellfare lie about their financial situations and reap the benefits for years at a time. They never get caught and in most cases raise their children to do the same. I'm speaking of what I have actually seen happen here, but I doubt it's different anywhere else. I am not a racist, I am a capitolist.
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Blindgreed: On #1, sorry, I had to shorten my original post and misworded my statement. My original sentiment stands, though -- if you don't want your money going overseas, don't hand money to people that send it overseas. As far as #2 goes, that's one isolated industry, whereas I'm talking about investing money at the citizen level. Entrepreneurs start as individuals. I've seen examples of #3 in both whites and other races as well, but not without making money on the side (drugs, drugs, and more drugs), so that point can only be settled on a case-by-case basis. Some people are just into nonstop exploitation of the system and others, and this runs through every income bracket.
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Gas: Oil is an isolated industry, on that we can agree. However, if Mexico was such a trusted "pal" they would have given back to the US during that period of insanely high oil prices but instead they chose to make a tidy profit for themselves and not help the poor little orphaned children that Dave used for his tax break. I'm done arguing this point. My family adopted two African girls. Brought them home. Educated them. One died and the other is in Iraq in the US Army. I feel as though we did something about the situation instead of using them (the children) for a tax break. I stand by my beliefs and back branded 100% when it comes to people of color raping the system. It is easier for people of color to reap the benefits of the wellfare system. You pointed out that often the users of the system make money on the side with drugs (of which I can not dispute). I say without their wellfare money they would not be able to set up and keep up the shop. I say without that drug money that they get every month from uncle sam, they may have to actually earn a living and get out of the cycle of wellfare.
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So the unfounded assertion that Dave is doing this only for the tax break is made and then he is attacked based on this assertion? Unfair, to say the least.
And, although the country of Mexico should be responsible for its poor and needy, should we then use this as a reason not to help those people receiving none, especially orphaned children? Certainly in the case of these children, it was by no fault of their own that they were born into a helpless situation. I agree with the idea that no matter what Dave's motives are, the outcome is the same; some needy children received some help.
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Treacherous: This is not an unfounded assertion. Dave will get the tax break. It's business in America. Nobody can control what you think or believe in man, so believe what you want, but I guarantee Dave will claim this contribution to charity. It will appear just below his total earnings for his coffee earnings.
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Bruno: He wouldn't have used the name of his coffee business if he wasn't going to claim the contribution to charity and reap the benefits of the media for this little publicity stunt. However, I must admit I am bias because I absolutely hate Dave Cumstain as a human being.
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no bbristowe, i have tried numerous other areas as well. its just where i live, they are not hiring certain "skin colored (white) people". everywhere i look its all the same. im sure if i tried i could get on welfare, but im choosing not to, as i prefer to have a jnob, and earn my money. i dont want handouts, (but ill take free weed anyday).!!...lololol...as for life itself, id rather work than bum off the taxpayer.
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im not trying to claim to be better than the next person. and i am not trying to make people think i am some in-humane person either, i was homeless for 3 yrs. so i know the feeling of being in a desperate situation, and i give homeless people money periodacally. every human deserves the right to a happy life. i just think that b4 we try to fix other countries probs, we should fix our own infrastructure up to a good level. then we can can concentrate on helping out other countries get in order too. we have too many problems plauging our people, that it seems completey irrational to even consider sending some other country aid that can aid our citizens.
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"what, you couldnt find any orphanges here in america to help out?......FUK YOU DAVE (EGO-FUKHEAD) MUSTAINE!!!!! MOVE TO MEXICO THEN YOU FUKIN PIECE OF SH1T......this pile of horse sh1t just lost all respect from me....i dont care if any readers are mad at me....fuk him and his coffee selling, mexican loving a$$!!!!!!"
too bad 95% of your country thinks like that.
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Well I guess I could have phrased it nicer. But a good portion of the people either don't pay any attention to it or just fuel the fire. I'm not picking on branded specifically, I understand times are hard and everyone gets into rough situations but when people jump out at other races it just seems like a scapegoat to me. Branded obviously feels dirty towards them, most people would. I'm just saying a solution to the problem would be easily obtainable if people understood the issue
(I.E. "im not trying to claim to be better than the next person. and i am not trying to make people think i am some in-humane person either, i was homeless for 3 yrs. so i know the feeling of being in a desperate situation, and i give homeless people money periodacally. every human deserves the right to a happy life. i just think that b4 we try to fix other countries probs, we should fix our own infrastructure up to a good level. then we can can concentrate on helping out other countries get in order too. we have too many problems plauging our people, that it seems completey irrational to even consider sending some other country aid that can aid our citizens.")
rather than other posts by people.
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Hey 68. brandedcfh420...its kinda funny how you tell people in the Egypt thread to not lump you in with me when it comes to rascist thoughts...but this thread proves my point about minorities and illegals....i live in south carolina...transplanted down here from Connecticut for job reasons...and i see the same exact thing you see...hire the black, hire the black, hire the black and make damn sure its a female.....yeah i am a supervisor in a big factory and thats what HR wants me to do....guess what, i dont listen....and the factory runs much better now and production is way up since i hired white men....but when im asked what my secret is to how well i turned over the lines im in charge of....i dont dare ever say cause i would be in the HR office having charges filed against me for being rascist bastard that actually cares about hiring the proper people for the job.....i had to fire 14 blacks when i got promoted because they felt that as long as they just showed up yo...eyes gots me a job hommie attitude...WRONG ANSWER. Oh dont think i havent been questioned about my hiring practices...but when the factory is making a profit in a crap economy and production is up 375 percent...people will tend to look the other way.
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And just to stay on topic...f*** that heroin addict Dave...i heard he fell of the wagon again not to long ago...he is a great guitar player....but he turned into a friggin hippie...feed the American kids first you punk. I guess there were no hungry kids left in New Orleans right?
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DarkXmaster a$$hole...thats always the answer to everything, because someone has an opinion differing from yours and has actual proof they must be in bred and rascist. Buy a f***ing clue. Im so tired of the feel sorry for minorities hour...get over it.
And if you werent blind and actually read the WHOLE COMMENT, you would see where im from dumbass.
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In all fairness. Timw makes an extremely good point. People in NO are still getting sh** on. I really have no idea what is happening down there, but from what I gather, 4 years later and sh** still hasn't changed. I really base that on nothing, if someone would clarify it I'd greatly appreciate it.
On another Note, Mustaine is metallica. All of their good songs off of their early albums f***ing killed. Kill em All - Black Album or KIMB - Rust In Peace. I'd choose the latter.
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bbristowe, i appreciate you understanding the deeper meaning behind my points....people are so quick to call rascism or whatever. When we refuse to see our own problems here in America and just choose to ignore them for the sake of helping someone else in a far off region...it gets me sick to my stomach. Alot of it is mostly a publicity stunt just to get attention, because obviously going to other countries those those scumbags brad pitt and angelina whorelee choose to adopt kids from other places rather then help our own children. I know of many childrens homes with abused children of all ages who need help here in America and it sickens me when these rich f***ers choose to take there money elsewhere instead of helping locally first.
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Granted I don't know the exact details and this was taken from Wikipedia but:
In 2006, Pitt gathered a group of housing professionals together in the Hurricane Katrina-stricken New Orleans to begin planning a project that Pitt calls Make It Right, with the goal of financing and constructing 150 new houses in New Orleans' Ninth Ward. The houses are being designed with an emphasis on sustainability and affordability, with the hope that the project can and will be replicated throughout the city, with the assistance of Global Green USA, a national environmental organization. Thirteen architectural firms are involved in the project, many of which are donating their services. Pitt and philanthropist Steve Bing have each committed to matching $5 million in donations.
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Sorry, couldn't help but notice a couple of clueless d***s here, especially brandedcfh420.
Point 1-there are just as many-if not more-Americans raping and killing Americans as illegal immigrants doing it. Blaming violence in America on immigration is just f***ing juvenile.
Point 2-Mustaine, regardless of his motives, did nothing wrong in helping the children in Mexico, because yeah, America does have more financial resources to help the poor than Mexico does; we just DON'T DO IT. You blame other countries for taking American jobs when you should be b****ing at the American businesses that willingly go to other countries simply to make a profit. You wanna b**** about not gettin a job, quit b****ing at other people and look at who's responsible for the f***ed up American economy- AMERICAN CORPORATIONS and the greedy, corrupt AMERICAN GOVERNMENT. You blamin immigrants and the rest of the world makes you look like a racist, ignorant, stereotyping redneck.
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Those american corporation and banks you are so eagerly to blame are jewish owned and run....but god forbid i point that out...everyone is trying to race rape each other in one form or another.....our forefathers came here for a reason...and last i checked, they sure as hell looked alot like me.....dont remember anything in history where they stopped off somewhere for gas and said hey...lets bring some of these savages with us....theyll help.....no they made technology happen within a 100 year period and made industry for this great nation....while others everywhere else fell behind the using there brain movement.
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TimW just no - Americans improved on the technology created by the rest of the world - a bloody Romanian came up with almost everything needed for the jet engine for example - and just remember they came from Britain. They had the best possible start in a new world, and what did they do? Raped the land, killed the natives and generally caused problems. This is all history now of course.
Also stopped off for gas and didn't bring "savages" - SLAVERY anyone. f***in d***, they profited horribly from slave labour.
The industrial revolution started in britain and spread to america. They didn't come up with anything new, just took what had been made and profited because they learned from the others mistakes and had to pay very little for it.
After that, the only real advance america made was in computers, and this could be explained by saying that Britain and the rest of europe was suffering much more heavily after the world wars, and turned inwards more.
The thing is that Nazi germany made the first working binary computer.
Also one point - Al-Jazari and Leo DaVinci both thought up ideas for a lot of relatively new (as in recently created) technology, Jazari being an Arab in 1206.
So while I can see why branded disagrees with mexicans taking jobs etc, and even though i think the claims of rape may be true, rape happens anyway in america so i don't see that as a big factor.
But you TimW spout hate and crap. Other economies fell behind because they didn't have the opportunities America had throughout history.
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I just want to point out something, although it might have been stated already...
How do they have all this documentation on illegal immigrants and their massive waves of raping and murdering, when the people do not technically exist in the system at all? How do they have all these records about an entire group of people that are causing problems in the economy simply for the fact that there are no records of their existence?
AND, I hear complaining that brad pitt and ms. jolie adopt kids from other countries when we have plenty of kids over here that could use the help.
Well, when 90% of the children in America are homeless, starving and dont have anough financial aid for education or clothing, then yeah, you have a valid point. As it is, our kids in dire need of help, have government aid, free education, a foster system in place to get them off the streets, and constant donations of free clothes from red cross and other charity organizatins. Still really sh**ty, but compared to failing crops, starving, constant military goverment takeovers, leaving the economy overal in scrambles, and no education sytem to speak of half the time, and almost never affordable in their countries anyway, our kids have the life of luxury. Our homeless kids sleep in beds every night; beds that indonesian kids would convert to christianity to get to share with their entire families.
Helping anyone in the world period is a good deed. to decry somebody for not doing enough, or not doing something else is foolish and retarted, especially when you probably do nothing at all.
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Well I agree with some of TimW points this
"dont remember anything in history where they stopped off somewhere for gas and said hey...lets bring some of these savages with us....theyll help.....no they made technology happen within a 100 year period and made industry for this great nation....while others everywhere else fell behind the using there brain movement."
doesn't really cut it. Irish pretty much says it all. 1. Came from Britain 2. Slavery built the railways that connected the U.S. 3. Technology was brought over and improved upon nothing revolutionary or relative to human ingenuity was created.
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The chineese bulit the railroads for us....they werent slaves and they also dont complain like the other races do........The chineese do just fine, i believe we treated them like dirt too, but you dont hear them crying the blues...you know why, because they are PRIME examples of the shut up and work hard theory.
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Im talking about the chineese here in America, jesus do you just read half or what?
And yeah if we threw more hippies in jail like China does we wouldnt have to listen to such crazy thoughts of just love one another bullsh** and give each other diseases for the sake of being free, cause lord knows thats what true freedom is right? Lawlessness and no sense of order.
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DUMB SH IT. The Chinese immigrants who built the railroad were born and raised Communists in china, and THEN CAME HERE.
Then they taught their children their cultural values. f***in duh.
and if we threw hippies in jail like China, then we would be commie's dumbass. All the sh** youre complaining about is the price you pay for freedom. If you wanna b**** about some of the downsides to being the greatest country in the world for an individual to live in ever, then you can go live in china asshat.
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I just love all the name calling, just proves im making sense. The oriental population here in America live very productive and enriched lives. I work with many philipinos who are good hard working people and dont wait for the govt to do them any favors unlike some other races that feel so entitled.
Also there is a big difference between having freedom and all out anarchy. Stop signs are there for a reason, but im sure some hippie will protest stop signs soon enough, because it hinders there right and freedom for there f***ing prius to continue moving because they feel they shouldnt have to stop.....they will start calling it kidnapping before you know it.
Enough is enough and if you cant realize that rules need to be in place to mantain order then you need to put down the needles and your water bong long enough to understand reason.
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^no name calling does not mean youre making sense, it means people are starting to get frustrated with you and your constant incompetence f***face.
Since when the hell did america become a complete Anarchy? I never said there was no distinction, i said there is a price to be paid for more freedoms. there is a big difernce between what i said and whatever sentence you were trying to rebuttal.
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Apparently rules arent followed here either...............
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Youre not following them either apparently^ so shut the f*** up.
I also enjoy the fact that since you cant come up with an actual rebuttal, you refer to the "but youre not following the rules!" argument. fa**ot.
Thirdly, the comments are moderated in the sense that if someone exhibited personal threats to someone, then they would be flagged by the site creator and deleted. several offenses result in the banning of the person's Ip address. excessive profanity would be meant in the sense that every third word was an obscenity, and thusly no longer relavent and only causing problems.
As for remaining on topic, it has diverged a bit, however, it still stems from socio-economic viewpoints and subjects, which is what we are speaking of, so technically, we are on topic.
now please, actually refute any statement I've made in previous posts with actual attention paid so I dont have to keep correcting you on my intentions and your assumptions. It's getting tedious.
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Why, because You're too retarted yourself to rupudiate the points of someone who is obviously so stupid? As stupid as you say I am, it should be a breeze breaking down every point I make, shouldnt it?
secondly, I'm not speaking dumbass...typing...pay attention, there's a distinction here.
thirdly, instead of challenging you to refute my points, since you obviously won't; why don't you go back and illuminate the instances where it's evident that I speak( ahem, type) in a way that suggests that I have not within my capabilities intellectual bereft?
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Why bother, just read through the posts again and really dissect it and learn something, i dont waste my breathe just to repeat myself. Seriously, play devils advocate with what i say and you will hopefully come out of your drug filled haze...seriously though, try if you can.
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Did you even comprehend what i asked of you? i didnt question what YOU had said, I understand completely everything you say, it's not very difficult. what i requested was that you point out which of MY posts that convinced you that I was the dumb one on here. how am I supposed to read your previous posts in order to figure out MY linguistical mistakes? that is a technical impossibility. That's paramount to me measuring your height in order to figure out how tall I am.
Once again, as well, we are TYPING, so you arent wasting any breath. Besides, you dont even have to repeat yourself. JUST ANSWER MY FVCKING QUESTIONS. That simple.
As for playing Devils advocate. You dont even comprehend what that phrase means. The devils advocate is someone who argues against you to show you the fallacies and loopholes in your points. I'm already doing that. I've BEEN doing that the entire time. You're telling me to do something I'm already doing. Idiot.
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Tim, maybe if you by chance graduated beyond middle school, you would know that technological and industrial advances didn't start in America- ENGLAND, dumbass. And there are other countries with tech advances beyond what we have. This attitude of American supremacy sh** is as appalling as it is pathetic.
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"I worked 4 years in the Childcare/Child-Psyche field. Our orphanages and Children's Home's have massive Gov't funding for food and housing, as well as many citizen run programs that bring money, toys, clothes, what have you, into these facilities. These programs also take care of seasonal spending such as Easter Baskets, Christmas presents, Halloween costumes, etc.
These arent a given for many of these orphanages or children's home's in Mexico. Many people are under the poverty level and money simply doesnt exist for programs to help these kids. While I am all for helping our own here in the States, these kids are getting something from a charity that they more than likely wouldnt get from their own people."
While I know I already posted this at the beginning of the thread, it seems like it was ignored in lieu of arguing or simply overlooked for it's length and lack of insult. You may not agree with the sentiment behind Dave's actions, this is fact. It has nothing to do with personal view.
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Its your fantasy you have whipped my ass, i can say the same about most of you...you say i cant see your side, but its just as obvious you cant see mine. So is there a difference really?
Ive mentioned several times i have no problem helping out my fellow man, i just believe it should be and starts with home first, whether you think some sh**ty govt programs help or not, we still have many problems with our children here that these programs dont reach.
And i find it funny that things are most done during the holidays when the most publicity can happen, instead of just doing things for the sake of doing it, rather then looking for a pat on the back....and yes the media has a love fest in this country for people who seem to love going in other countries to help, but when people help each other out around here it gets zero coverage.
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While Im sure Dave loves any publicity he can get, the Holidays are when these kids get it the worst. American or otherwise. It's not easy for any of them. The hopelessness that comes with knowing the babies and toddlers will be adopted first coupled with the fact that they have no family at a time when family is supposed to mean the most. At least in our orphanages they can get X-Mas presents. Hypodermic affection at best, but at least it's something. In those orphanages south of our borders most are lucky if they get anything at all. Maybe a few orphans got some presents this X-Mas. I honestly couldn't care less about any of the people involved in this or their motivation. Believe me, I don't have many illusions about the nature of most people. But hell, maybe a stupid little Doll or Teddy Bear made it a little easier for some kid who thinks the world has abandoned him/her. That's really the bottom line. I understand most of what has been said on this thread, and why most of it is said. I do agree with a few points here and there. The world sucks sometimes, but maybe it didnt suck so bad for a little while for a few kids.
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Dude put down the pot long enough to know REAL history...and your chineese answer proves me right. So instead of just spreading insults like a pack of retards...lets just stick to facts and have a human conversation............just facts that can be proven not left wing wacko fantasies.
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TimW i actually agreed with some of your earlier posts, but then you followed them with alot of ignorance... give it up, you will not win this argument because no matter how many facts you stick out there you will still sound like an arsehole... and yes, FAN did destroy you in that argument.
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You are all just too ignorant to see reality. Proof is proof period....whether it is spread with honey and roses or not...since when did the metal community become a bunch of sensitive p***ies that resort to calling people bigots when they disagree with a point? Bunch of whiners and crybabies....oh my god he said the word black person, isnt african american, oh my god he said jew. Yu guys really need to man up abd start seeing reality, but ill just sit back and watch Israel on the news bomb innocent people because they are so rightous.
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When did the Metal Community have a problem with weed? You keep going to back, "Put down the pot/bong" at least a half dozen times now yet you cannot spell Chinese?!? Kind of voids any point you are trying to make, even though you have contradicted yourself enough times to make me think there are two TimW's.
Dude, over a week ago there was a story about Dave Mustaine giving away coffee to orphans in Mexico and you are still trying to prove to a point. To whom I don't know, maybe FAN? You guys got in a pissing match yesterday and it looked like a couple girls on the handball court. Read that "argument" again and rethink how pointless the "Dave Mustaine Coffee Thread" has become.
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190. writes:
We kind of brought this situation on ourselves. We took the whole 'money trade' in with open arms(stocks)and now we're in another recession.
The whole thing about people being racist against whites is not true everywhere, but I can see how some people don't want to be considered racist so they get more people who aren't whit.
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Metalhead: Lyrics... It's what I do. Have you checked out my stuff at the Blind Greed myspace yet? I am totaly opposed to writing anything that has no meaning (for the sake of rhyming or some stupid sh!t). I have made my position on this topic as clear as I can make it. Some agree, some disagree. It's what makes the world go around brother.
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198. writes:
well thought this was a metal site
not a al gore site
wel dudes and jenny we can talk about food work childeren the fact is that we are in a beter position than many other places around the world
but do think before we help other poeple we need to take car of our own first than we are ready to help the world
do think imigrants need to wait first for a job untill the locals are done mexicans can have the left overs
but dont matter what we say like for example in holland were i am from we were to lazy to do the dirty work and the turks came in to do it
but know things are bad in holland and not so much work any more so the dutch want ther dirty jobs back to late fo that
the world should had thought about there own first and than help the rest of the world
well the world i mean is the usa cause that what most of the people think the usa is the world
and do have to say branded is right on what he writes
so dont b**** poeple if a black dude gets work and a white one not remember the white dude did not want to do the dirtywork at taco bell or mc donalds
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199. writes:
Sometimes, I just wonder about Dave Mustaine... He has been in and out of rehab, and it seems that he has been trying to re find himself over and over again.... While leaving Metallica (fags) was very good for him, I wonder what does he see what the future in the business holds for him.
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208. writes:
I will always like megadeth more than metallica. Mostly due to the fact that the only metallica albums I liked were MoP and Kill em all and most of kem was mustaine. Megadeth always seemed more creative musically to me at least. Also, lets face it Marty >; Kirk.
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^christ I hate it when people type like that.
Ride the Lightning was brilliant, but AJFA was genius. Never got into Megadeth much myself. Felt like he was trying TOO hard to be better than Metallica. Just ended up sounding like a bland rip-off band, for the most part.
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Nah I grew a beard to cover it :P And your typing continues to annoy me. Why do it like that? It takes more effort to capitolise every other letter than to type correctly. Which means you are wasting energy on making yourself look like an idiot. I just don't get the gameplan, man.
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Alot of bad stuff is said about Dave. (And "yes" I know it's mostly his own attitude that brings this about) But it's still really good that he does this sort of thing, like him or not. Cheers, Dave.