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Mudvayne Reveals New Album Tracklisting

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Mudvayne has revealed the tracklisting for their forthcoming new album, which is tentatively titled, "The New Game." The album was produced by Dave Fortman and is scheduled for a November 14th release.

The tracklisting is as follows:

1. Fish Out Of Water
2. Have It Your Way
3. A New Game
4. Dull Boy
5. Do What You Do
6. The Hate In Me
7. Scarlet Letters
8. Same Ol?
9. Never Enough
10. A Cinderella Story
11. We The People

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1. Guttersniper writes:

why are they putting dull boy one here.. its been out for a long time now and was on for the people, by the people

# Sep 5, 2008 @ 10:34 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. MAK Ultra writes:

Fine by me. I thought By The People was a waste, but Dull Boy is a great song.

# Sep 6, 2008 @ 12:08 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. KORNDOGG writes:

HELLYEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

# Sep 6, 2008 @ 1:13 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. broken face writes:

putting dull boy on anit good in my opinion. like guttersniper said it was on for the people by the people i wanna hear new material with a fresh twist on things

# Sep 6, 2008 @ 1:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. travlow1 writes:

Oh hell f***in yeah. I can't wait for the 14th of November.

# Sep 6, 2008 @ 2:28 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. B-rad writes:

It does make sense that Dull Boy is gonna be on it, in a way it was kind of like a preview of the new material.

# Sep 7, 2008 @ 10:21 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. Dark_Funeral writes:

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

# Sep 7, 2008 @ 10:41 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. b12 writes:

ill buy it as long as chad gray has some decent lyrics.....by far one of the worst lyric writers

# Sep 7, 2008 @ 10:57 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. JK2TYME writes:

its going to b the best album this year ...... cant wait.

# Sep 8, 2008 @ 4:46 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. Dark_Funeral writes:

lol ^

# Sep 8, 2008 @ 5:09 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. eztthegreat writes:

^ the best album of the year is already out: Slipknot All hope is gone

# Sep 15, 2008 @ 2:48 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. Cynic writes:

LOL! ^

# Sep 15, 2008 @ 4:25 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. Txmetalhead writes:

I hope this album is good - Mudvayne has slowly been going down hill with their latest albums.
I guess there will never be another LD 50 - what a shame.

# Sep 15, 2008 @ 4:41 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. Hannibal writes:

^ Agreed with Txmetalhead.. it's almost like a linear downward slope; they started with a masterpiece (LD50), followed through with a pretty good and interesting sophomore effort (Teoattc), and then just got progressively worse and worse.

What really bothers me about Mudvayne's new material is the horrible lyrics (say, compared to LD50 or Teoattc), the uninspired, regurgitated approach they've taken to making music, and the lack of artistic passion that is painfully evident. Whereas LD50 was a work of twisted genius, Lost and Found seemed like a carefully calculated piece of radio-friendly nu-metal that was never meant to express anything profound. And this new album.. even its name, "The New Game", literally oozes blandness and a lack of inspiration, not to mention the track titles and lyrics, which are on par with 'Hellyeah'. It's like they don't want to even bother any longer. Or maybe they've just discovered that if they want to make a comfortable living with their music, they have to dumb it down to make it more appealing to the stupid masses.

# Sep 16, 2008 @ 10:22 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. Clowned writes:

Slipknot's new album isn't selling. If Slipknot can't crack Rolling Stone's top 40, can Mudvayne? In the public's eyes, is Chad Gray even close to Cory Taylor? Is Mudvayne anywhere near Slipknot in terms of popularity? Their whole "New Game" deal of offering tickets if you pre-order an album isn't worth a damn. This doesn't help you out at all, as it solves a problem that doesn't exist- getting Mudvayne tickets. They think they're bigger than they are, if they think this is a worthy enticement to pre-order a record.

Looking at the tracklisting for Mudvayne's new record, it is tough to know if the songs will be any good. This is the best thing it has going for it after the last studio album.

# Sep 16, 2008 @ 11:32 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. Cr4wf0rdTxJ1ng0J4ng0 writes:

I think Mudvayne is going to go down in history as our generation's RUSH. I love everything these guys record, and I'm looking forward to this album.

Using Slipknot's current popularity as a barometer for Mudvayne is crazy. Slipknot may not be as big as they used to, but they also sold themselves short, pussed out, put acoustic guitars and string sections on their songs, and then released two hardcore stinkers right in a row, as opposed to Mudvayne, who may not be as heavy as they used to, I'll admit, but I don't think they've strayed too far from their original sound. I think Mudvayne came out of that feud on top. It didn't seem that way back in 2000-1, but you can't ignore the fact that Mudvayne's music has aged WAY better than Slipknot's did.

And as far as which band is "bigger", I think that it's better to play what the hell you want to play and attract, maybe 2,500 fans, rather than factory-making your music for the radio and getting 10,000 fans. Regardless of which band is "bigger", I think that hardly matters. The quality of music is paramount for me, seeing as I could give half a sh** if someone else is listening to it on not. I don't listen to bands just because my friends do. I listen to music if I think it's good. Simple.

But then again, you can't expect someone who refers to themselves as a "maggot" to think that way.

# Sep 16, 2008 @ 2:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. Clowned writes:

Mudvayne's music has aged way better than Slipknot's? The average person doesn't even know who or what Mudvayne is- after being a band for many many years. Your picture looks like Slipknot.

Do you think the cheesy new Mudvayne promotion gimmick is worthwhile- to the fans? It's ridiculous. Mudvayne tickets are easy to come by unless you wait to the day of the show, and I have a feeling they will be easier to get after "The New Game" comes out.

# Sep 17, 2008 @ 11:38 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. Txmetalhead writes:

To CrawfordTxJingleJangle - that was a very nice compliment to mudvayne...and I didn't say that I don't like any of the new songs. I just don't think they can make another album anywhere close to LD50...on LD50 I liked almost every song. On the End of All Things to Come, I liked about 4 to 6 songs, and on Lost and Found maybe 4 songs. I am still happy, though, that mudvayne is touring because they really put on a great LIVE show. I also want to hear the new album because I did like Dullboy.

# Sep 17, 2008 @ 11:49 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. StabbingTheDrama writes:

I KNOW WHICH BAND IS BIGGER!!!

Slipknot is bigger, they have 9 members and Mudvayne only has 4. ;)

Seriously, who cares which band is bigger? It has nothing to do with anything. Who is more popular out of the two? Slipknot is more popular. When do you see them headlining festivals? They don't, especially now. I'm not taking a side but it's pretty obvious who the more popular band is.

I wish they would come out with another album like LD50 but it won't happen. This new album will most likely sound close to HELLYEAH. Just judging by the album title, it's not going to be a very good record. It seems like they've been transforming from metal to rock on every album since LD50. It's weird listening to something like Dig and then going to Dull Boy, they've changed too much over the years. Now that they have an estabished name they can go back to the old sound and they'll still have the same support of both sides.

# Sep 17, 2008 @ 12:07 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. Clowned writes:

YOU may not care about Mudvayne being big, but Mudvayne cares very very much about Mudvayne being big. This is why they put out the kind of music that they do now... like "Forget to Remember", boy that was touching... made me cry. This changes everything about what music they are putting out, does it not? Oh, by the way, they failed at that.

Also, does anyone think they're "new game" pre-order record/ticket gimmick is worthwhile? No one addresses this, so I guess they fell like I do- that it is basically useless. All of Mudvayne's "gifts" are self-serving. Like when the friend died and they wanted their fans to pay for the funeral. I'm sorry about the friend dying, but come on! Do you make the kind of dough Chad makes? I doubt it.

Let's hear the new stuff, maybe there will be something in it worthwhile? There you go, that's positive!

# Sep 17, 2008 @ 12:32 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. StabbingTheDrama writes:

I just have a very strong feeling that it's going to sound even lighter than their last album and closer to HELLYEAH.

# Sep 17, 2008 @ 5:33 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. Cr4wf0rdTxJ1ng0J4ng0 writes:

f*** it, let's all paint our faces and hit each other with pillows.

# Sep 17, 2008 @ 5:56 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. StabbingTheDrama writes:

*smack*

lol

# Sep 18, 2008 @ 2:49 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. mudkid writes:

dude its mudvayne when have you ever been disapointed

# Sep 18, 2008 @ 12:27 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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25. StabbingTheDrama writes:

^ Absolutely

# Sep 18, 2008 @ 12:30 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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26. Cynic writes:

How the hell did you like "Lost And Found" Crawford? That album was a joke, I mean "Determined"? They need more tracks like "Trapped In The Wake Of A Dream" and less like Linkin Park wannabe hits like "Happy?"

# Sep 18, 2008 @ 5:23 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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27. Spag writes:

Huge Mudvayne fan, but I too hope they can recapture the brilliance of L.D 50. There's a few new songs on their myspace people, with about 40 second samples. Hard to say how it will turn out, but I am looking forward to it.

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28. Dark_Funeral writes:

a corpsepainted pillow fight. lmfao

# Sep 18, 2008 @ 8:23 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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29. Dark_Funeral writes:

IMN = only good track on Lost and Found. Even though i never listen to that CD anymore.

LD.50 had some pretty cool sounding stuff.

Crawford basically summed up everything i was going to say about slipknot. Boo. lol

# Sep 18, 2008 @ 8:24 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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30. ...Just Another Number... writes:

From Post 17
"Mudvayne's music has aged way better than Slipknot's? The average person doesn't even know who or what Mudvayne is- after being a band for many many years"

Dude you are just repeating your argument that was severely punished to death by crawford. Slipknot has went to utter sh** after IOWA. As I have said 100 times, they need to break up into their side projects again cause Corey can sign clean better than he can "scream" and Clown's side band Downthesun is 10x as good as slipknot ever was.

NOW on to Mudvayne, if they go back to their LD 50 roots (Doubt it will ever happen given their progression) or put put out some more tracks like IMN or at least soem songs with the heart they put into Choices (Without goign to political that is) then I think this might turn out to be an awesome album. Oh yeah, For the People by the people was horrible.

# Sep 19, 2008 @ 12:03 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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31. Cynic writes:

Personally I hope they write another album like "The End of All Things to Come". Less nu-metal and rapping, more prog.

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# Sep 19, 2008 @ 12:56 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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32. acacia writes:

i have been a fan of mudvayne for years, ive just been lisining to the preview of the new album it sounds shocking, i totally expected it they have been so predictible since lost and found, mudvayne died after 2003

# Sep 19, 2008 @ 7:58 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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33. Cr4wf0rdTxJ1ng0J4ng0 writes:

You know, as your fame rises, life gets easier. Why would they be able to write another album like LD50? Return to their roots? That album's only 7 years old, fer f***'s sake, how can it have roots? They were angry, they wrote an angry album. Now they're living high on the hog, so they write like it. If Lost & Found is as good as we're going to get, then I'm happy with that. I listen to Lost & Found they way others listen to Dark Side of the Moon. Straight through start to finish. I like how Mudvayne may have gotten LESS heavy, but they still kept their style. And fan or not, you have to admit from an artist standpoint that that's an accomplishment. To get a major record deal, and still retain your style. So what they're not that heavy anymore. They're still awesome musicians. I think every Mudvayne album is a more evolved model of the one before it. I'm excited and I can't wait to hear this.

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34. Txmetalhead writes:

The only thing I disagree with Crawford, and this is my belief, Ryan the bassist is less prominent on the later albums, compared to his role on LD50. Even my friends agree. Ryan is a fabulous bass player(one of the best in metal) and the band needs to re-implement him into the "mix", so to speak. He is extremely talented, and really came up with some cool, funky bass lines on LD50. I prefer the bass sound, so that is what I focus on. I think he could make another great impact on this new album. I am not putting down Tribbet, though..he has talent too. Mudvayne has great talent, and entertaining LIVE.

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35. ugly-bob writes:

i agree with tx's comment about ryan. he is an awesome bass player and i hope he is heard more in this latest album. his work on l.d 50 was amazing in my opinion. "one of the best in metal"...absolutely

i'm looking forward to this album....and when is it being released???

# Sep 19, 2008 @ 8:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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36. ugly-bob writes:

oh my bad i didn't see the date. hey the 14th of november, the day after my birthday.

WOOT!!!

# Sep 19, 2008 @ 8:44 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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37. komodojoe writes:

mudvayne is a collection of talented musicians. people who want them to go back to there nu-metal roots are stupid. nu-metal is for simple folk. i don't care if ur not a fan of there new stuff just cause ur ignorant. just dont tell others its bad because your giving the wrong information. don't set urself on one style of music and call it a day. expand your horizons.

# Sep 20, 2008 @ 9:28 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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38. psythe writes:

post 26 - How the hell did you like "Lost And Found" Crawford? That album was a joke, I mean "Determined"? They need more tracks like "Trapped In The Wake Of A Dream" and less like Linkin Park wannabe hits like "Happy?"

GAH!!! EXACTLY!!!!

# Sep 21, 2008 @ 8:01 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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39. psythe writes:

Although, to be fair, I think the bassist did a pretty decent job even on 'Lost and Found.' But in almost every way, this band has so far peaked with 'The End Of All Things To Come' - hopefully it's a false peak and they'll better it, but the direction they've gone lately, that's unlikely.

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40. Cynic writes:

Yeah agreed psythe - you just can't fault a bassist who writes lines so poignantly. I'm no fan of nu-metal but you can't listen to a track like "Not Falling" without praising the bass. That said the whole package was pretty solid on TEOATTC, the drumming in particular was another point of awe.

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41. ugly-bob writes:

YES YES YES, MATT MCDONOUGH IS AN AWESOME DRUMMER I DON'T GIVE A f*** WHAT ANYONE SAYS. not only is he a good straightforward metal drummer but he's also very technical too. i like to think that i'm a fairly good drummer myself but listening to most of the drumming in l.d.50 makes me want to cry and suck my thumb. all talented musicians are they, yesssss, mmmmmmmmmmm

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42. KORNDOGG writes:

Post 33-I agree 100%

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43. Cr4wf0rdTxJ1ng0J4ng0 writes:

i disagree. I don't think they've changed direction at all. If you think they've changed direction, then maybe you aren't listening to it. Maybe they've changed DISTORTION but DISTORTION and DIRECTION are two different things. Maybe Mudvayne doesn't give a f*** what anyone thinks and they're gonna go where they wanna go musically, and our job as fans is to evolve with them. Quit your b****ing. Mudvayne is awesome and regardless of what this new album sounds like, you can bet it's gonna be way better than whatever Slipknot's putting out.

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44. Cr4wf0rdTxJ1ng0J4ng0 writes:

KORNDOGG, a brother in arms? Maybe we should go flame up that Otep/ Ill Nino tour thread.

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45. Txmetalhead writes:

I agree with post 41! The drummer is spectacular. All the members are talented as I have mentioned several times. I will grab the new album - that is a fact. I am also going to check them out one more time - LIVE>; Mudvayne!

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46. bananaterracottap1e writes:

'Determined' wasnt a bad song...c'mon guys, it was the best song off o' LAF for friggin' sake! It has an uber-cool Pantera-esque grind in the chorus that makes me wanna break somethin everytime I hear it.

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47. clowned writes:

People are gonna take it from Mudvayne with their new game manipulation? The ones who do are the ones who paid for the "dead friend's funeral" a few years back. People fell for that crap to the tune of 6 G's, while Mudvayne sat back and laughed. New Game? Sounds like the same old Mudvayne game. But, the day of reckoning is here for Mudvayne, as the new game will bomb. What idiot advised them to go through with this? People have more pressing concerns than to go through some elaborate process just to get a ticket code; oh yeah, concerns that Mudvayne doesn't have, like paying rent and putting food on the table.

By the way, I like Mudvayne's music much better than Slipknot's. It is just that Cory is more of a decent person that those 4 put together will ever be. Wake up and realize that you are supporting a band who regards you as nothing more than sheeple- and the "new game" sadly proves this.

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48. Cr4wf0rdTxJ1ng0J4ng0 writes:

yeah corey's a more decent person. Like you know anything about him outside of what Metal Edge or Revolver wants you to know about him. It doesn't matter who is a better person. Mudvayne makes better music and that's why every Mudvayne album is successful, while every Slipknot album gets worse and worse as they try to reach for that middle ground that Mudvayne seem to know like the back of their hand.

And if you think that a prerelease promotion for an album is going to ruin the album, then what's the point of recording the album? If it were that simple, don't you think they'd do the Metallica thing and hype it up for 8-9 months before it's even recorded?

I believe the music will speak for itself. I have no lack of faith in Mudvayne knocking it out this time. Slipknot's played their hand, and I think we all see what's going on there.

The ticket code thing is a bad idea? I recall it working wonders for NIN, Radiohead, Metallica, and Ozzfest(s).

And as far as them regarding us as "sheeple", why don't you look at the band that actually labelled their fans maggots. Mudvayne doesn't need some cute little nickname for their fanbase.

Like it matters who's decent and who's not. Listen to the f***ing music and quit trying to find so much meaning in everything you see. You're gonna miss a lot of cool sh** like that.

# Sep 22, 2008 @ 3:27 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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49. KORNDOGG writes:

Post 47..???? What the f*** are you talking about, the guys in mudvayne are good guys! I had the pleasure at a show in NW Indiana to hang and have some drinks with chad grey and greg tribbet, and they chose to hang out for two hours after the show, " on their tour busses", with me and my friend, got autographs and pictures, and they were just down to earth and cool! So i dont understand what ur talking about

# Sep 22, 2008 @ 4:19 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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50. Cynic writes:

"'Determined' wasnt a bad song...c'mon guys,"

Yeah, it was. How did the lyrics degrade so quickly from "Mercy, Severity" to a Limp Bizkit parody? "GO! So f***ing determined!" - STFU.

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# Sep 22, 2008 @ 4:46 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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51. KORNDOGG writes:

Determined was a bad a$$ song^^^^^^Nothing close to limp bizkit! And by the way- limp bizkit was the sh** in their day.....

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52. Drewbacca writes:

I agree with Crawford on this one. They progressed how they wanted to in my opinion and he gave supporting evidence to back up that claim in post 33. If you don't like it then that's just you. For instance, Finger Eleven's The Greyest of Blue Skies album is a milestone album in my life that I will cherish forever but their self titled after that.........abysmal in my opinion. The cd after that.....makes me wanna shoot myself. A band is going to play what they want to. Just like Slayer, They've been making the same album with the same sound for over a decade and the band and the fans are content. But if one day hell actually did freeze over and Slayer changed their ever persisting sound in any direction other than satanistic thrash metal, everyone would have a shiit fit. Point being, if your favorite band let's you down then just find something new. This is definently the place for it.

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53. bananaterracottap1e writes:

" How did the lyrics degrade so quickly from "Mercy, Severity" to a Limp Bizkit parody? "GO! So f***ing determined!" - STFU."
Every single song in the world doesnt have to be eloquent and flawless. You dont quote Shakespeare when youre p***ed off or pumped up, do you? I would rather have a song with a laundry list of obscenities than a song with lyrics like "Basking in the radiant glow of the eternally eloquent satanic genitals". Although Im a huge fan of black metal you just cant relate to sh** like that , metaphorical or not. And who the f*** are you to tell me to STFU? I can say whatever the f*** I want to.
Np : Pantera - Walk

# Sep 23, 2008 @ 7:26 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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54. Cynic writes:

For clarity, that shutting up was directed to the inanity of the song not you. No every song in the world doesn't have to be flawless, that's why I'm pointing out the flaws in this one. To each his own, but I think the lyrics are a pathetic nu-metal regression.

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55. bananaterracottap1e writes:

"For clarity, that shutting up was directed to the inanity of the song not you."..Oh sorry, my fault. Nothing against you dude, but isnt lyric writing supposed to be instinctive and spontaneous?

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# Sep 23, 2008 @ 8:21 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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56. psythe writes:

^I couldn't agree more. A lack of taste, uniqueness, or eloquency in lyrics is a major turn off for me, with any type of music. Every metal fan ever has at some point said "All hip-hop is is bragging about your bling and suggesting sex at every possible chance" (or something basically equivalent) - for me, nu-metal (or any band in any genre that doesn't put much thought into their lyrics) is the metal equivalent of hip-hop. Just in metal, instead of gold chains and women it's anger and power (and such). Now, if you can write about this stuff in a tasteful, unique, or eloquent way, fine. Otherwise, you are metal hip-hop.

I think Mudvayne began as a band with a great lyrical trademark. LD 50 had some brilliant thoughts, and some very unique ways of putting them. Death Blooms, anyone? TEOATTC was also fantastically composed, lyrically. Lost and Found, on the other hand, was a major regression. Call it evolving if you will, but in nature, no animal evolves into a worse version of their former self. That would be DEvolution. The lyrics for that 'Happy?' song almost made me want to choke on my own phallus. And not at all, sadly, due to arousement.

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57. Cr4wf0rdTxJ1ng0J4ng0 writes:

^^ I fail to agree that Lost & Found is a bad album. Sorry, dude, but I like Mudvayne. I don't care what they're playing. Call me a fan, I guess.

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58. Cr4wf0rdTxJ1ng0J4ng0 writes:

*what distortion they're playing.

# Sep 23, 2008 @ 9:09 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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59. psythe writes:

A bad album? No. Bad when given the context of its predecessors? Yes.

I also like the band. I give them credit where it's due. I also criticise when that is due.

# Sep 23, 2008 @ 9:43 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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60. Txmetalhead writes:

To Clowned post 47 - I met Corey Taylor, so I am not sure it was the same person you described..actually Corey was a big jack A$$...I have said it many times, but Jim Root, IMO, is the better man. He(Root) didn't act like some prima donna ego HOUND. I was bitterly disappointed, too, because I used to have respect for Taylor.

# Sep 23, 2008 @ 12:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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61. Trooper writes:

I agree with clowned, because Mudvayne has *&%$ up with the ticket code thing, they ain't ozzfest, metallica or NIN. Also, the time they expected fans to pay for the dead friend's funeral was really lame, because they make way too much $$ to look for charity. clowned was right about this, too. the fact is that mudvayne has mudvanians (go to the site to see for yourself) and slipknot has maggots. I don't think anyone is sheeple, though.

the only thing I can say to Crawford is that he should be objective with the new Mudvayne album, and not just like it because it is mudvayne. We all should be objective with the new album.

# Sep 23, 2008 @ 1:49 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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62. rip saw writes:

Clowned is the man! Yes, the ticket thing is a big sham. So was trying to pass the hat around for the friend's funeral.

I don't know TxMetalhead, because I met Cory and he was awesome. You're right when you say that Root is great, because he is.

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63. clowned writes:

Props to Trooper and rip saw. Somebody other than me sees the light about our pals in Mudvayne. The only thing Trooper is that I don't know about "Mudvanians". I do recall Mudvayne referring to their fans as "Oxygen Wasters", so that's close enough in my book. They even said it in a song... "Oxygen Wasters, come on...". It was so gay. To rip saw, yes "passing the hat around" was ridiculous for rock stars to be doing.

People have no right to steal other people's music via downloading or burning. Music, however, should be about freedom, and I should have the right to go to a concert without having to purchase a CD. Maybe Mudvayne feels that their fan base has reached a saturation point, and they can gain no more "passersby", so they have resorted to this. By passersby I mean people who just wish to go to a show for a night out to check out a band. I have gone to shows knowing very little about a band, then really liked the band and bought the CD. Maybe Mudvayne feels like they are past the check out a band stage, but however you look at it they are kind of locking in their fan base, which is unwise being that they put out very diverse music.

Now, on to the music itself. Hopefully this new album will be great. Dullboy is hope.

# Sep 24, 2008 @ 12:06 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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64. That_One_Guy writes:

I've met Corey Taylor 3 times (we're from the same area, unfortunately) and 2 times he was a pompous jackass because I was with friends (you know, he's got a reputation to keep, or some stupid sh*t like that), but the time I was by myself he was a nice guy. It really just kind of depends how many people are there when you meet him.

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65. KORNDOGG writes:

Post 56, you are out of your f***ining mind!!!!!!!

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66. That_One_Guy writes:

Choking on your own phallus, psythe? That's eerie, and weird. Lmao.

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67. Cr4wf0rdTxJ1ng0J4ng0 writes:

I don't know. I like Mudvayne, and I don't see why I should be objective about a new album if I have no objective feelings about it. I'm not saying that I have total unflappable faith in them to make an awesome album, but I shouldn't doubt them if I have no honest reason to.

Let's say you're a Nevermore fan. You hear that there's some buzz happening about a new album. If you've been listening to Nevermore for almost 10 years, how likely are you to take the word of someone you don't know as opposed to a band that, despite a few flaws here and there, hasn't ever disappointed you? I don't care what it sounds like. I'm jsut excited to hear it. If I hate it, I learn a lesson, but I can't lower my impression of Mudvayne just because someone else thinks that they're gonna pinch out a hot steamy chocolate hot dog. I've tried to think about it objectively, and, sorry, I don't see them letting me down. If I still hung on to Metallica before, during and after St. Anger, Mudvayne is going to have to f*** up pretty badly to make me turn the other way. And from the snippets of the new songs I've heard so far, I don't see it happening.

And no, I'm not saying Nevermore is flawed. Nobody's stupid enough to think that. I hope.

# Sep 24, 2008 @ 5:15 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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68. Txmetalhead writes:

Maybe if I was a hot chick, Corey would have been cool to me. I think he was "high" on something - who knows..but I have met better people than him - Burton C. Bell, for instance. Anyway, I heard samples from the new Mudvayne, and I was really impressed. I think this album will be good, and I can't wait to hear the whole thing. I can hear Ryan's bass playing mastery from the samples, which is a great thing.

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69. KORNDOGG writes:

I met joey from slipknot when he was drumming for korn last summer, he was pretty cool guy!

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70. Drewbacca writes:

From the song I heard on Sirius Hard Attack I believe the new Mudvayne album will definently be more diverse than past efforts. I've heard multiple mixed responses on the "douchebaggery" of Corey taylor. I heard one person say he was complaining the whole time during a autograph session. (which was right after they got off stage during Ozzfest.) Then someone else told me they met him but couldn't help but burst into tears since he was their idol. (pfft.) Anyways, after he started bawling in front of his key inspiration Corey Taylor said "awww" and gave him a hug. So I don't know what to think. Guess everyone has their moments.

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71. Cr4wf0rdTxJ1ng0J4ng0 writes:

meh. I lost my Slipknot fever years ago.

# Sep 25, 2008 @ 9:18 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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72. KanadianKoRn writes:

To post 57 Crawford- what the f*** is wrong with ur thought process? you say "I fail to agree that Lost & Found is a bad album. Sorry, dude, but I like Mudvayne. I don't care what they're playing. Call me a fan, I guess." you tell us this after all the B.S you spit about KoRn? your a f***in hypocrite!

# Sep 25, 2008 @ 10:30 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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73. Txmetalhead writes:

I saw Corey Taylor with Stone Sour. I think he didn't really want to be there. Stone Sour didn't exactly get a huge ovation from the crowd when they played on stage..I believe it was Korn's tour - Family Values Tour. I am sure Joey is a real cool guy. Corey is still a great vocalist and talented, I was just disappointed in his behavior, that day. Yes - Mudvayne is going to have a good album this year. I am happy to see them return.

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74. clowned writes:

I have read in these opinions that LAF is good and I have read people say that it is not so good.
I think both are true. One song that gets no attention by anyone it seems is IMN off that record (track 4). I think that is a really, really great song. To me, it is possibly the best song Mudvayne has ever done. I also like that "Pulling the Strings" song that gets no attention. The rest of the record is lower than anything the band has put out, basically. Forget to Remember is boring, and so is the song that mentions the TV. As you can tell, I listened to LAF all the way through about twice.

By the People for the People is a better record than people think. I'm glad I bought it. The different version of Shrying really rocks compared to the version that was on TEOATTC. People basically think this record sucks. I can't understand why.

I hope they do a new song that is a lot like IMN. That song is incredible.

# Sep 26, 2008 @ 12:27 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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75. That_One_Guy writes:

Probably the nicest musicians I ever met were the Murderdolls (Joey's old side band -- they've since broken up) with the exception of Ben Graves. He was an a$$hole. Tripp Eisen (formerly of Static-X.. he got kicked out after sleeping with a 13-year-old though, ew) was an incredibly nice guy and Joey, Eric, and Wednesday 13 were all really nice too.

Tom Araya from Slayer is also a surprisingly nice guy. Rob Zombie too.

I met Chad from Mudvayne once, after LD 50 came out.. he didn't say much, just signed the autograph and left.

But Corey Taylor.. was just a d***.

# Sep 26, 2008 @ 12:44 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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76. focusabuse writes:

I think that Lost and Found fails to match LD 50...but LD 50 is something that wont be matched again, not even by Mudvayne themselves because it was written while that album was possible. Their lives at the time dictated the content of that album and it was brilliant. However, Lost and Found I think is better than most give credit. Drop songs like "Determined" and take a listen to the entire album. I personally find songs like "Rain.Sun.Gone" and "Pulling the String" to be very very good. I think we can all agree that IMN is a very good song as well. While the anger of LD 50 is missing, the musicianship is incredible and lyrically not all the songs have been "dumbed down". I do not think that the "less heavy" albums means are poor simply for that reason.

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