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Bullet For My Valentine Want To Be More Metal

BULLET FOR MY VALENTINE frontman Matt Tuck told Revolver magazine that he is writing meaner, less syrupy melodies for the group's upcoming CD, which the band recently started recording at Sonic Ranch studios in Tornillo, Texas with producer Colin Richardson (MACHINE HEAD, FEAR FACTORY, NAPALM DEATH). He is also avoiding lyrics about relationships.

"We want to be more metal all across the board," Tuck told Revolver. "On their second album, a lot of bands try to please their record company by doing something more commercial. We didn't want to fall into that trap."

BULLET FOR MY VALENTINE has written 14 songs for the as-yet-untitled CD, which they hope to have out by the fall. Songtitles set to appear on the album include "Scream, Aim and Fire", which is about going to war, and "Waking the Demon", a cut that's definitely not suitable for KROQ or MTV. "It's about getting revenge on a bully at school by slicing pieces off him," Tuck told Revolver. "There's some really sick shit in there, so I'm happy."

BULLET FOR MY VALENTINE will be the featured guests on the nationally syndicated radio show "Rockline" airing Monday, April 30. The live show begins at 8:30 p.m. PT / 11:30 p.m. ET, and fans are encouraged to call in with questions during the program at (800) 344-ROCK (7625). To find a station near you, check out www.rocklineradio.com.

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1. psythe writes:

How could they possibly have done anything MORE commercial? They already well and truly tamed that beast. They could do just about ANYTHING and they would be more metal than their last album!

I'm glad they're not singing about relationships anymore, but until Waking The Demon actually features an actual demon, I can't see myself being particularly impressed with this band.

# Mar 28, 2007 @ 10:58 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. Terminator writes:

^I whole heartedly agree

sounds like these guys are trying to do what trivium attempted.

# Mar 28, 2007 @ 11:16 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. xXxBODOM OF MY HEARTxXx writes:

^^^haha omg
dude that is sooooo true...bfmv tries way to hard to be anything first of all please no bro sh** seriously...and second of all music videos are too "dark" for the music that you do...and as far as the trivium attampt they f***ing sing live because the lead singer's voice and throat hurts but whatever the new cd from trivium blows comapered to ascendancy but all i can say about bands stick to your roots and dont go commercial because of a label!!!
cheers always...

# Mar 28, 2007 @ 11:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. sahaubutie writes:

If they want to be more metal, maybe they shouldn't call themselves "Bullet for my Valentine". The only name more emo than that would be "Bullet for my Dashboard Confessional". Wait... that's not a bad idea...

# Mar 28, 2007 @ 11:49 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. Terminator writes:

at the end of the day, they're just a bunch of sell-out wannabes

# Mar 28, 2007 @ 11:53 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. Ostracised writes:

Somebody needs to tell them NOT to do that "Waking the Demon" song. Cannibal Corpse already did that.

Now Playing:"My Acid Words" from Nevermore

# Mar 29, 2007 @ 8:02 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. psythe writes:

lol, Panic! At The Bullet For My Good Charlotte Dashboard Confessional...

# Mar 29, 2007 @ 8:19 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. SexBloodandMetal writes:

If they wanna be more Metal here's what they can do.

1)They can start being less EMO
2)They can rename the band (see #1)
3)More solos
4)Faster solos
5)Faster more brutal drumming technique (Blast Beats are your friend, get a double bass pedal)
666)Lyrical content must be more evil, and dark, and no, not dark like, "I'm sitting in my room with lights out crying about ex-girlfriend" (see #1 again)
7)Emo=sellout, so remember to avoid one in order to avoid both. (See #1 yet again)
8)Make sure that when you name a song 'Waking the Demon' make sure a demon is actually involved, and it better not be metaphorical for something gheymo (#1 AGAIN!)
9)Growling (Death Metal), Pitched-Shrieking (Black Metal) is definitely more metal.
10)Change your current style (DEFINITELY BACK TO #1)

# Mar 29, 2007 @ 8:38 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. 6-Wretched-6-Soul-6 writes:

post 8 is true genius.

you should be their manager you could make them metal.....

# Mar 29, 2007 @ 10:22 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. metalhead644 writes:

hopefully post 8 never actually makes it to that level...

# Mar 29, 2007 @ 10:39 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. Valentine_no_more writes:

i guess even though they are already very metal

# Mar 29, 2007 @ 11:48 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. dmasa writes:

i hate this band they remind me of trivium who also trys 2 b metal!!!f*** u panzy bands!!!

# Mar 29, 2007 @ 2:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. metal2death writes:

terminator got that dead on. lol (as i usualy say about gay bands) bullet sucks more d*** than clay aiken

# Mar 29, 2007 @ 2:27 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. youguysdontknowmetal writes:

you guys dont know sh** about trivium if you dont know why they changed there style...why do you think its gay becayse they dont scream enough, what your only"men" and "metal" if you scream.... well your not [please get a better sense of sh*t and not be so gay.....slipknot has 9 member that suck at life who cant even show their faces but wearing masks are metal i guess, DIO who never has sceamed or growled is more talented by himself than the whole band of slipknot......SO GO FU*K YOURSELVES!!!!!!!!!

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15. dead_beat writes:

post 14 i agree with you all the way

# Mar 29, 2007 @ 3:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. Old skool thrash writes:

"sexbloodandmad" u talk a load of bullsh** lmao.
first of all. theres no such thing as "WANT" to be more metal, ur either f***ing thrash or u aint.
like forbidden, heathen, nuclear assault these bad asses are thrash from start 2 end.

basically Bullet, stick 2 what ur good at. which is making emos happy.

as for "sexbloodandmad" ur jst a fool, if ur so metal, u shud know metal aint no f***ING RULES to obey, u jst pick the f***ing thing up, thrash and headbang. so scrap ur useless rules. thrashers for life
peace

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17. Murderface writes:

^^^^^^^I happen to dig Heathen, Forbidden, Nuclear Assault and the like.

# Mar 29, 2007 @ 5:27 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. Muderface writes:

Oi, leave sexbloodandmetal alone, d***.

# Mar 29, 2007 @ 5:28 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. SexBloodandMetal writes:

post #9, hell yeah I should be

# Mar 29, 2007 @ 5:40 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. rk writes:

jesus these trick turning girlpant faghats couldnt be metal if kerry king played on their next cd theyre is no hope. If they want to be more metal they should just hang themselves and do it in a hurry.

# Mar 29, 2007 @ 6:25 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. Public Execution writes:

At least they are trying to not suck as much. Who knows, maybe their lead singer will go play in traffic and they will find someone new to sing who doesn't whine. Everybody else in the band could probably make the switch.

# Mar 29, 2007 @ 7:16 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. slayerdisciple writes:

f*** u post 16, post 8 wasnt rules to metal that list defines wat metal is tho number 5 doesnt really apply cause doom metal doesnt really use brutal blast beats but the rest is the definition of metal and number 1 should apply to music all together

# Mar 29, 2007 @ 9:09 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. DeathInEye writes:

Why is metal evil? What does this stereotype accomplish? To me, it just gives panzies a good reason to critique metal, and you can't argue back with them because it becomes hypocritical! Metal should be about perservering, not abolishment or discrimination (unless of course you're speaking out against these things). Granted metal should be brutal, and relationship b****ing isn't necessarily always brutal. Example: Tears Don't Fall. But they're aiming away from this and it's only their second album. Everyone deserves two chances!

# Mar 29, 2007 @ 9:45 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. ThE DiSTurBeD writes:

ANYTHING THEY DO IS MORE METAL THAN WHAT THEY GOT NOW!

# Mar 29, 2007 @ 10:25 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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25. master_of_puppets17 writes:

i think the band would have a chance if it wasnt allways heart break and ex girlfriends behind all there songs. lets just hope they really do wake that demon otherwise we might not be seeing much of them anymore.

# Mar 30, 2007 @ 5:28 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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26. DETH0903 writes:

jumping on the metal bandwagon i think. its pathetic how all these lame-ass emocore bands are turning 'metal'. they don't have a clue what metals about

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27. SexBloodandMetal writes:

slayerdisciple, I don't care if you can't make Jaxx! YOU HAVE TO MAKE OZZFEST!

# Mar 30, 2007 @ 7:17 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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28. rk writes:

exactly post 26 unearth is a perfect example of this bullshiit along with these cokkgobblers

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29. Scorpion69 writes:

post 26 is perfect!!!

# Mar 30, 2007 @ 11:23 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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30. slayerdisciple writes:

SB&M if i can find a ride to Philadelphia ill go but im not drivin from Richmond VA to Philadelphia PA, u have the fortune of livin in the DC area thats like a 2 hr. drive

# Mar 30, 2007 @ 11:27 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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31. SexBloodandMetal writes:

Aren't they hitting a place near you?

Well I'm hoping you and I can make at least one of the 2

# Mar 30, 2007 @ 11:49 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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32. what?? writes:

the lyrics are emo......SO WHAT!!!! look at killswitch, i can name a sh** load of songs that have to do with girls and break up and emo sh**.....are they emo?

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33. Murderface writes:

^^^ Uhh, yeah.

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34. slayerdisciple writes:

yea the closest dates to me r Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, and Charlotte NC, those are atleast 4 to 5 1/2 drives for me so i will try to go but im not payin the gas for that

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35. old skool thrash writes:

slayerdesciple, ur a f***ing IDIOT lol. ur know nothing about what f***ing metal really is pal, if "blast beats" means metal, ur a f***ING IDIOT!!!

im guessing bands like Venom, judas priest use immense blast beats then, lmao idiot prick!!

# Mar 31, 2007 @ 1:45 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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36. old skool thrash writes:

Oh yeah, in that case, Anthrax isnt metal as well? lmao dyke,

# Mar 31, 2007 @ 1:46 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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37. rk writes:

...are killswitch emo? if theyre not then Sanjaya is a black metal band from india.

# Mar 31, 2007 @ 2:24 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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38. AK47 writes:

post 14 is a real man.........F**K SLIPKNOT THEY ARE ALL SISSY'S WOW LOOK AT YOUR SINGER NOW HE IS IN A HORRIBLE BAND CALLED STONE SOUR! THATS REAL METAL BAHAHA!

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39. Cynic writes:

What a joke, I can't even comment the idea of this thread is so inane.

"first of all. theres no such thing as "WANT" to be more metal, ur either f***ing thrash or u aint." - Nuff said.

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40. blakscorpion21 writes:

Very nice post ^, you just play music that true to you and if its metal, its metal, if its not then dont try to make it.

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41. pursuit of vikings writes:

xXxBODOM OF MY HEARTxXx writes:
^^^haha omg
dude that is sooooo true...bfmv tries way to hard to be anything first of all please no bro sh** seriously...and second of all music videos are too "dark" for the music that you do...and as far as the trivium attampt they f***ing sing live because the lead singer's voice and throat hurts but whatever the new cd from trivium blows comapered to ascendancy but all i can say about bands stick to your roots and dont go commercial because of a label!!!
cheers always...

Not to be an a$$hole, but that that fell about 50 yards short of making any sense whatsoever.

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42. SexBloodandMetal writes:

to 'old skool thrash': When I (not slayerdisciple) said to use Blast Beats to be metal, I meant an emo a$$ band like BFMV should get as far away from Emo as possible and get as deep into Metal as possible by going extreme metal, because emo bands like them, need to make EXTREME CHANGES to their style, and BLAST BEATS would definitely slingshot them as far from emo as possible, so yes, in this band's case, if they want to be metal, they better go all out with it just to avoid their former selves. Now thats just me explaining my point in that, because I forgot there were gonna be denim-clad dinosaurs like you thinking I'm just some stupid fvck who knows nothing about old school and thinks that Metal jerked itself off into existence with 90s Death Metal double bass pedals. So to let you know, yes I know and appreciate old school thank you very fvcking much (BLACK fvcking SABBATH mate! JUDAS fvcking PRIEST, VENOM, and LED fvcking ZEPPLIN you rank tart fart!!!).

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43. old skool thrash writes:

lmao !!! "denim-clad dinosour" lol, old school is the only f***ing way for metal im afriad. any f***ing forbidden fans out there!?.

at least u explain urself :D ta

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44. old skool thrash writes:

f*** yeah Post 14. u make a good point, dio f***ing rocks. and i agree with what u say . but trivium still blows anyway, thats jst my opinion, but u got some facts f***ing right there pal! well done

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45. Valentine_no_more writes:

I Luv BFMV. Is that a bad thing?

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46. blakscorpion21 writes:

Yea, old skool thrash, i got the forbidden evil cd, good sh**.

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47. Xavez writes:

They Should just stop this charade because the're just gonna crash and burn, right back into emo garbage land where they belong.

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48. old skool thrash writes:

yeaaaaa man forbidden evil is a god damn classic!! id love 2 see those f***s

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49. Alex.... writes:

They could be good but most metal core bands like these when they actually sing not scream they sound emoish and winey, soooooooooo maybe....more screamin and less metalcore riffs? make them more hardcore? O.o

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50. Alex.... writes:

Or Maybe, lose the gay shoes, stop wearing the same stuff as ur band mates & stop dying ur hair in 1 spot :s

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51. slayerdisciple writes:

old skool trash writes:
"slayerdesciple, ur a f***ing IDIOT lol. ur know nothing about what f***ing metal really is pal, if "blast beats" means metal, ur a f***ING IDIOT!!!

im guessing bands like Venom, judas priest use immense blast beats then, lmao idiot prick!!"
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first off let me get a big old f*** YOU, show me where i said that blast beats are wat define metal show me that, go back and read post 8 (SB&Ms post) i agreed with that list except #5 because blast beats dont make u more metal asswipe, im huge follower of doom metal i know blast beats dont make u metal all they do is add a more brutal sound to ur music

way to read my post correctly DOUCHE BAG

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52. the antihippy writes:

blast beats makes it more brutal if you know where to use them, if you don't you just make the music seem redundent.

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53. slayerdisciple writes:

^that is true

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54. SexBloodandMetal writes:

true that post #52

# Apr 4, 2007 @ 10:15 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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55. Dan writes:

BFMV are awesome, try dont "try to hard", they are not "sellouts" all u freak f***s can go rot in hell this new album is going to be f***in amazing, ive heard scream aim fire, thats f***in amazing

so stfu if u aint got anything nice or sensible to say

BFMV rule

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56. Dan writes:

stop getting yourself caught up in what most freaks would say, bullet arent metallica, we all f***in know that, stop slagging them off, they are a f***in great band and we all know it

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57. Dan writes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSWzqMG7B3g

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58. Aron writes:

I've seen scream, aim, and fire live and it was awesome. the whole show was good. matty switched up the vocals and screaming a little and it complimented good with the old stuff. I'm looking forward to the new album..

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59. John from Ireland writes:

Jesus same sh1t different page, a load o f*ckin wanna be's.. I have to agree wit 16 and 14 except that Trivium are crap since Ascencdency, They tried to be a better machine head and metallica then the real deal when they already had somting special, and the fact that Matt heafy is openly full of him self dosn't help. as for bullet, their not Gay Emo's, some of their lyricals are but their the closest to 80's Metal then any of today's new band's...any one who say's otherwise really hasn't a clue when it come to music, their to wrapped up in "being Cool"....Metallica heard & Liked their New album Hence the reason My they Touring wit em and I think I'll trust them b4 any of u waster's,I mean alot of u b**** about "emo Freaks", yet u go tell to F*CK OFF and DIE, which is exactly wat a really Emo wud do...if u don't like the music then that's cool but don't say that Metallica fan's hate em My dad's been a hardcore Metallica Fan Since I first saw them almost 25 years ago, and I've been a fan since I was born(I was raised wit it) and I lve Bullet and My dad thinks their pretty cool, I quote "They brought a little bit of hope to Metal since Aiden and Trivium f***ed it up"......Give Bullet a break, I'll Give Trivium a break when they admitt they are not the new metallica and go back to their old none Gay pompus style...They ain't no Fire. any just to let you all know Childern of Bodom, LAMB of GOD and Death Angle are the Best F*CKING BAND'S...after Metallica of course.....HELL YEAH.....if u like real Metal check out speed Theory....even u so called Real Metal Fan's will like em

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60. rk writes:

you know john there is a band from your home country called Primordial if you listen to them you might change your about lamb of gay and emos answer to Lance Bass aka this shiitty a$$ band.

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61. rk writes:

you know john there is a band from your home country called Primordial if you listen to them you might change your about lamb of god(my favorite band) and emos answer to Lance Bass aka this shiitty a$$ band.

there i fixed that for you. courtesy of bs21.

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62. rk writes:

thanks for the impersonations dumbfukk keep it coming.

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63. blakscorpion21 writes:

Hey, i do what i can. I always got your back rk whenever you make typos.

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64. psythe writes:

ahhh... - John (from Ireland):

by the by, nice country you've got yourself there. I'm an Australian, and I've always admired the Emerald Isle ever since I traveled there with my father around five/six years of age. The pubs especially are my favourite places: pubs here really don't compare.

However, niceties over, you really need to work on your grasp of English grammar: it is one thing to know the language correctly, but another entirely to know how to put the words correctly into sentences which actually make grammatical sense - for example, I could find an internet translator, and speak any word you want in French, but if you asked me to put a sentence together, the best I could do is string words together, hoping they make some slight sort of grammatical sence in French. This is how you sound in English. In fact, this is how most people posting on the internet sound in English. Perhaps a few (if not all) of you would benefit from displacing your game consoles for a while, and picking up instead a good, classic novel. Nobody said you have to get into Shakespeare - the Bard is a man who takes years of acquaintance to properly understand - yet it surely wouldn't hurt one to increase the expanse of ones' vocabulary via a good novel or two. I highly recommend Orwell's "1984". While it doesn't contain too many words that need understanding to retain the central theme and plot of the story, one does need to discuss with one's proper thinking mind the possibilities and opportunities for learning that the story creates. It is in this, rather than the simple adding to of the vocabulary, that one learns from such a book, and indeed I regard this as a higher level of learning, though it takes a lower level of learning to accrue such knowledhe anyhow.

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65. ??? writes:

everyOne nEeds 2 shut da f*** up.... nD da band dat fckn rOcks is......B4MV

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66. ??? writes:

nd dude(psythe) shut da fck up aint no body want to hear ur fckn bullsh** god!! six years old...man do we actually do i give a fck i dnt think so......n e ways B4MV ROCKS!!!! =)

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67. StabbingTheDrama writes:

Hey ???, nobody wants to hear from a motherf***er that comes here and posts one or two times and never f***ing comes back so leave him the f*** alone. You were able to put your opinion so he's able to put his. And BFMV sucks. Emometal.

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68. Shallyn writes:

bullet for my valentine is awesome! its new metal you idiots so dont put them in the same category as metallica (50 year olds with no new sound or anything special)

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69. StabbingTheDrama writes:

Who wants a new sound when you're the band that perfected metal back in the day??? Are you trying to call BFMV nu metal or a new kind of metal? And having whiney nasaley (sp?) vocals makes me long down on them, it makes them a lot less metal. If there is going to be singing in metal it needs to be good or else the whole song is ruined. Check out Sinai Beach's album "Immersed", the choruses ruin that whole album.

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70. metalneverdies writes:

gosh bfmv are tryin too hard they should stick to what theyre playin hell i bet $20 they wont even try to be more metal i bet theyre gonna sound exactly the same

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71. Zer0mus writes:

I also heard that they will be less commercial (impossible to not do because they completely sold out on The Poison) and "borderline-Slayer". This is Bullet For My Valentine talking here for f*** sake! How stupid do they think the metal community is? We all know an emo-screamo fake metal band when we hear one, and BFMV fit that description very well. Get off your high horse, Matt Tuck.

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72. the antihippy writes:

i would just call them pop-metalcore. or just metalcore. nothing remotely emo or screamo about them. they just have dumb lyrics and stupid haircuts.

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73. StabbingTheDrama writes:

To me, the chorus to (4 Words) To Choke Upon has a very emo chorus. The rest of the song is not. But that ruins it completely for me.

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74. Valentine_no_more writes:

lET tHEM bE mORE mETAL w/ dARKER aND "mEANER" lYRICS. iT iS nOT a bAD tHING. mETAL mONSTER mACHINE!!!

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75. ??? writes:

o hell mathaf***n no StabbingTheDrama wat kind of sh** is dat mellalica or watevr dose mathaf***rs are i dont give a fck about dem wrinkle a$$ mathaf***ers i f***n support B4MV so stop ur f***n complaining!!!!........nd i aint no f***ing emo k ot dat staght......I LOVE B4MV

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76. blakscorpion21 writes:

Learn to read and write. ^ Jackass.

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77. Alex.... writes:

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78. slayerdisciple writes:

??? u wouldnt know real metal if it hit you in the f***in face

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79. SexBloodandMetal writes:

"??? u wouldnt know real metal if it hit you in the f***in face"

---Someone call for me to hit someone in the face?

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80. the antihippy writes:

superman did.

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81. SexBloodandMetal writes:

*hits some random person in the face* Thats for not knowing Metal!

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82. ??? writes:

plze shut da fck up u aint gona do sh** u fckn dumbass

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83. SexBloodandMetal writes:

seriously, Mr Question Marks...use better spelling...And chill out kid, I'm not serious...

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84. xXxBODOM OF MY HEARTxXx writes:

DONT YOU HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED METAL TO BECOME MORE METAL? THINK ABOUT IT SERIOUSLY...

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85. FocusShift writes:

I always see some of you guys b****ing about bands who have a fan base with the mainstream. If Slayer became huge within "the scene", by whatever reason, I get the strange feeling there would be a "New Slayer/Old Slayer" trend arise even if they didn't change their sound. Now I'm not a trve kvlt black metaller, "demin wearing" classic metaller, or a complete thrasher. I like diversity. Bullet, given the metalcore riffing that occurs, the metalcore breakdowns, the 80's metal lyrics, and the. . .no, not emo or screamo, clean choruses, still hold a lot of classic Maiden metal. If they're trying to get in deeper with their roots, why b**** about it? I think most of you are just annoyed BFMV might be the reason some scene kid starts listening to a band like Maiden or Slayer. You spend an awful lot of time to say a band is "fags, p***ies, etc." when anyone who truly understands metal knows that's not what its about. Metal doesn't have to assault to prove it's better, it naturally is. Before you were metal and people knew what you were about. Now you say you're metal people don't get the message accross anymore. Metal was never about hate, but change.

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86. Cynic writes:

"Metal was never about hate, but change."

I disagree. And I definately disagree with the fact BFMV get b****ed about here because they're popular. It's because we think their music sucks. Can that be any clearer?

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87. the antihippy writes:

metal is about sex, drugs and rock'n'roll, just with more trolls.

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88. Dark Saga writes:

FocusShift
that has to be one of the least accurate descriptions of BMFV i have ever heard. these guys sound NOTHING like maiden. their lyrics are shallow and they switch between screamo and clean vocals. if their lyrics resemble anything in the 80s, they resemble all of those whiney hair bands crying about how their girlfriend in middle school broke up with them. im annoyed not with BMFV, but with all the twats who think their metal and so blatenly defend them as being metal. if they are "digging deeper into their metal roots" i hope they hired a construction team, because they've got a long way to go.

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89. John (from Ireland) writes:

Hey psythe, MY grammer Is Perfect, I choose to speak That Way CAUSE I AINT F*UCKIN ENGLISH!!! and by the way maybe u should learn to spell before correcting other people's grammer, For anyone else Bullet for my Valentine are Defined in Metal Hammer, Kerrange and Wikkepidea as Being a METALCORE band, and In my opinion this is prob the most accurate

Also I have to agree with FocusShift about the whole trend thing, Bullet are just a natural progression in the metal scene, and deff the most true to their roots of most band today

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90. Cynic writes:

I love it when people spell grammar incorrectly.

I wouldn't trust those corporate rags, they're not in the Encyclopaedia Metallum and that's my general rule.

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# Apr 24, 2007 @ 7:34 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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91. slayerdisciple writes:

the only reason i dont use en.wikipedia as my bible is because anyone can change it therefore u never know wats right and wats wrong

# Apr 24, 2007 @ 7:41 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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92. the antihippy writes:

metalcore is more generally a hardcore punk sub genre though.

# Apr 24, 2007 @ 10:27 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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93. psythe writes:

You use poor English grammar because you're not English? Does that mean that when you speak in Irish, your grammar is unexceptionally perfect? Are you a doctorate in Irish grammar, then? We're all liable to a simple spelling error every once in a while, but when the occurence becomes exceedingly frequent, one has to wonder whether the errors are actually unintentional, or whether the author is trying their utmost best and still failing horribly... Grammar, by the way (and I add this only because I am unsure whether quite a few people realise this) has absolutely nothing to do with spelling...

lol,cynic - best I ever saw was something like "learn how to speelle". I sat and stared in dumbstruck admiration. that's gotta be the stupidest person ever.

antihippy, I can agree with that. i would say there is a coss-polination with some genre of metal, though - probably thrash or something, i dunno. i could give some serious thought to the point, but right now, i couldn't be arsed.

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94. anewwaytofall writes:

umm first id just like to point out that this section is not to talk about your stupid grammer problems this is about bullet being more metal and if u have a problem with ur grammar GO TO f***IN GRAMMAR SCHOOL!! and also if bullet makes it in metal hammer and winning metal hammer awards twice and Karrang twice then the are metal and i missed something BEST UK BAND . people who write these magazines are alot of record companies and sorts of things like that . they f***in know what metal sounds so if got a problem go talk to them about it

# Apr 26, 2007 @ 4:59 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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95. slayerdisciple writes:

^ um no just cause a band is in metal hammer and wins the awards for karang and metalhammer that means they r more well known, bein in these 2 mags. does sh** for ur metal status

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96. pursuit of vikings writes:

For real dude, MCR and other sh**ty bands are in metal hammer all the time, Don't use that sh** as your bible for all things heavy.

# Apr 26, 2007 @ 9:17 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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97. slayerdisciple writes:

wasnt fall out boy in metal hammer? yea thats real metal if they were

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98. anewwaytofall writes:

^ yo why would u even bring up fall out boy you f***in loser

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99. rk is ok writes:

This aint a scene its a circle jerk

# Apr 26, 2007 @ 10:14 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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100. psythe writes:

anewwaytofall, I like you - you remind me of when I was young and stupid.

I myself am no grammar buff, never went to any 'grammar school' or anything, but at least I can put my thoughts into coherent sentences, instead of a big one-sentence paragraph or rambling idiocy. If the general population could at least TRY not to make themselves sound like great fools, people such as I would be less concerned.

It's pretty easy to discern why slayerdisciple brought up fall out boy. Metal Hammer and Kerrang! Mags have less claim to metal status than the bands they publish articles on. The people that write for MH and K! may well work for record labels (honestly, I wouldn't know either way), but I can garuantee you they don't work for the underground, or even the less 'trendy' ones. They'd be working for Trustkill, Roadrunner (if they're actually more metal than I would bet on), etc. I stand firmly by my comments in post 1.

hahahah, rk, your comments always make me laugh.

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101. slayerdisciple writes:

^ty psythe saved me an explanation to anewwaytofall even tho i really didnt have to since hes obviously an idiot or atleast too lazy to go further up to read

# Apr 26, 2007 @ 10:29 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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102. psythe writes:

Sometimes I think the only reason I bother is to remind myself why I can't stand bands like this one. You can try and teach people, but they never seem to listen.

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103. Doing Elmo writes:

This band blows, way too mediocre, they bring nothing original, they are in no way metal.

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104. flippinrad writes:

ok thats stupid bfmv is not even close to becoming more metal

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105. Mitchell Myra writes:

I hate Bullet For My Valentine, they're the worst.

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106. Murderface writes:

This is going back a bit, but need I remind you all that blast beats came from Hardcore? And YES, they did.

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107. ??? writes:

sh** better not be

# Apr 27, 2007 @ 4:19 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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108. anewwaytofall writes:

you know what? bullet doesnt have to go more metal, there f***in good enough. And your sayin they suck. they supported all your fagget a$$ bands like megadeth and iron maiden . they all f***in suck. Bullet hasnt gotten support yet and there f***in better than all your f***ed up bands and when they become more metal your gonna say . holy sh** there f***kin pretty good. there metal enough and if they go more metal they'll even better . try goin to some of there shows smart a$$ ive seen 4 times there f***in great . there performances r f***in great .

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109. rk writes:

yeah there about as metal as rosie o donnel on dont ask dont tell night. cokkstain

# Apr 27, 2007 @ 7:09 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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110. Murderface writes:

Wow, Iron Maiden and Megadeth are faggy bands, huh? So how come those two combined are 10 times the band that BFMV will ever be? Exactly. Shut your mouth, d***brain.

# Apr 27, 2007 @ 10:32 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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111. slayerdisciple writes:

^they dont even have to be combined to be 10x more metal then BFMV

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112. FocusShift writes:

Define screamo and emo vocals, do you even know what those genres really are? I don't see bullet whispering, crying, or shouting like real EMO bands do. Your perception on "emo" is only what is in the mainstream and what everyone else calls emo. Just because you're a metalhead doesn't mean you can't learn the history of punk. Hell, old school thrashers sure did.

And I never said they sounded like Maiden, I said they hold the Maiden spirit. Sure, they're not metal (I know they're -core through and through). But there are some out there who can like Metal, Punk, and the bridging genres in between.

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113. the antihippy writes:

^^ finally, someone who understands emo.

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114. SmilingGunman writes:

^^ yep yep i couldnt agree more. and i DO like metal and punk and i like bfmv too. but just their songs. their style is kinda sh*tty

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115. rk writes:

no but Butteaters For Milli Vanilli are just as gay as Mr Brady's aids infection and was as all those art punk bands were in the nineties god i cant stand Faghussy.

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116. FocusShift writes:

Rk, you try too hard sometimes bud.

But my point was that Bullet isn't emo, nor screamo, in the least bit.

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117. rk writes:

try hard? My balls im saying these to wong foo extras are not metal not one bit. There fagcore
richard simmons loves this band your dad told me.

# Apr 28, 2007 @ 8:33 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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118. Cynic writes:

I've said this before, the word emo (especially in metal circles) has shifted meaning to become just a general insult, similar to the word gay. This is a metal site, no-one gives a sh** about what emo really is.

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119. rk writes:

thank you cynic

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120. StabbingTheDrama writes:

^ exactly Cynic. I saw on Amazon that someone even said that Chimaira was emo because they had some singing on their new disc. lol

"I hate to be saying it but, THIS IS NOT CHIMAIRA!!. What the heck happend? I mean Mark " The A*&^hole " Hunter used to actually have hard vokills. Now he has SOME rough stuff but where did the singing come into play. Chimaira just got bumped down to EMO in my book. YOU CAN'T CALL YOURSELF HARCORE METAL OF ANY TYPE AND SING, SORRY DOES'NT WORK. THIS PRESENT DARKNESS, IMPOSSIBILITY OF REASON AND THE SELF TITLED ARE GREAT ALBUMS AND THAT IS WHAT WE KNOW CHIMAIRA AS, NOT THIS SISSY LA LA JUNK. SORRY THIS ALBUM SUCKS COMPAIRED TO THE PREVIOUS ONES. DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY IF YOU WERE EXPECTING SOMETHING REAL HARD. I AM ONLY GIVING THIS A 3STARS BECAUSE THE ONLY GREAT PART OF THE ALBUM IS ANDOLS HERRICK AND HIS WONDERFUL TALENT FOR SHREDDING THE HELL OUT OF HIS KIT, THAT HE SHOULD TAKE TO A HARDER BAND. ONE MAN'S OPINION... TAKE IT FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH." - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/B000MNOXJE/sr=8-2/qid=1177808412/ref=cm_cr_dp_2_1/103-5290725-8768651?ie=UTF8&customer-reviews.sort%5Fby=-SubmissionDate&n=5174&qid=1177808412&sr=8-2

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121. slayerdisciple writes:

FocusShift i like punk rock and hardcore (real punk and hardcore from the 70s and 80s) and i dont know sh** bout wat emo is except that it is short for emotional and came from 90s hardcore and grunge and that it is so f***in sh**ty i have a hard time even calling it music

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