Ex-Korn Guitarist Brian "Head" Welch Gets Baptized
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According to an article on ChartAttack.com, former Korn guitarist Brian "Head" Welch was baptized on Saturday (March 5) at the Jordan River in Israel. A few excerpts from the article:
Welch attended the baptism with about 20 other pilgrims (all dressed in white robes) from his church in Bakersfield, California, under pastor Ron Vietti. Vietti has credited the rocker’s conversion with inspiring young people to go follow him into the arms of J.C.
Of course the hug-happy Welch hasn’t completely changed his identity —like a true Christian bad-ass, he’s commemorated his new beliefs by having "Jesus" tattooed across his knuckles and "Matthew 11:28" inked right across his neck. And while we don’t like to throw around terms like "messiah complex" in the face of this guy’s newfound happiness, he’s also announced plans to release some pretty interesting solo music in the future.
Read the full article at ChartAttack.com.
Source: ChartAttack.com
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33. writes:
thats cool. how old are you? they put on a badass live show. i have been to hundreds of concerts and their live show is among my favorites. the energy that they play with and the atmosphere of the crowd is awesome. korn has awesome fans which makes for good shows. are you from NY?
34. writes:
Yes Im from NY. I've seen the DVD take came with the Greatest Hits Album. I wish I lived in NYC!! I would have been First in line at CBGB's. They have so much energy i cant believe how much they have. I've heard they sound excatly like the records or better. I'm so ecited about going. Unfortunetly I'm only 16... : (
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music is music...if you like korn...cool...if not...cool...dont get all angry cause someone likes something you dont...its like me getting p***ed because someone likes cheetos and I dont (yeah, its that stupid). The guy made a decision thats a positive step forward for him...im curious too see whats gonna happen...Christianity is more than a jesus fish on a car, or his new tatoos...most of the people who bash Christianity are simply misinformed or have been turned off by morons who dont know what they are talking about...I'm a Christian yet I can still appreciate Dimmu Borgir, Emperor, InFlames and most of the good music I liked before I was saved...Its not about oppressing people or hating people...anyone professing that in the name of Christ is a hypocrite and feel free to tell them so...look beyond the "Christian Fashion" and that pink haired lady on late night Praise the Lord and you will probably find that though you may still not agree with it, you at least respect where we are coming from...
76. writes:
well...its not really a bunch of "sh**!!!". Its one of those things that you wont be able to understand unless you've been there (not that you haven't, but for the sake of discussion I will make the assumtion). Its like, I've never been to California, but people have told me about it and I have evidence that it exists. But if someone comes up to me and says "California is awesome" and I say "screw you it doesnt exist", well...I don't make to good a point. Not bashing or arguing with you ~*KoRNGoddess*~, just giving you something to think about.
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77. writes:
brad, you say "this is a metal site" like it gives you the right to be a f***ing moron because "this is a metal site". you saying that is a disgrace to most of the people on this metal site because unlike you, we listen to metal and still maintain levels of dignity and respect for other human beings. you are extremely immature, especially for someone who is calling us "kids", i'm 22 years old and i am much smarter and more mature than you could ever wish to be. f*** you.
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79. writes:
madk, you can't "rest your case" because you have no case. you and brad are both dumbf*** idiots. you cant judge someone by their musical taste. that is a personal opinion. my judgement of you two fags is based on your unrelenting bullsh** by attacking everyone in this room. our choice to listen to korn doesn't affect you, your bullsh** posts are directed at us and therefore affect us to some degree. just shut the f*** up, you make no sense and you obviously are an uneducated individual. go learn something and come back when you can post intelligently you f***ing moron.
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82. writes:
maybe your piece of sh** families raised you to be piece of sh** members of our society? you are both worthless pieces of sh** who will never amount to anything because your main goal in life is to bring people down. so while you two f***s continue reveling in your sh**hole lives, the rest of us will continue to exist in a world where you two pieces of sh** mean absolutely nothing and amount to trash. you two are both garbage in a f***ing landfill. f*** you.
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84. writes:
madk your posts show an increasingly smaller amount of intelligence evry time you post. you can't call korn fans uneducated because you have no knowledge of all korn fans. i CAN call you uneducated because your posts sound like they are written by a 5 year old. Go back to school or read a book or something because you are a f***ing idiot and it becomes more apparent every time you post. learn something. please. stop gracing us with your lack of knowledge. if indeed you are older than 15, go back to school. if you are in fact 15, shut the f*** and learn something because you are a f***ing worthless little b****. stop attacking people due to their choice in music.
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86. writes:
brad you're just as f***ing dumb as madk, i am not offended by his comments, im disgusted by his stupidity ..... and yours. you are both a disgrace to all metal fans because its people like you that give metal fans a bad name. a stereotypical metal fan in our society is an uneducated, beer drinking pothead loser who never graduated high school and lives in his parents basement. you two morons give credibility to this stereotype. you both are a disgrace to free speech and the advancement of intelligence. the more you post, the more you look like f***ing idiots. IF YOUR INTENTION IS TO OFFEND SOMEONE EVERY TIME YOU POST YOU REALLY NEED TO GET A f***ING LIFE. I am not offended by any single comment that you could ever make, but i am disgusted with your lack of dignity and respect for other people. GROW SOME BALLS YOU f***ING NO LIFE, NO FUTURE, NO HOPE sons of b****es.
87. writes:
Maybe they were just upset because DEADMETAL and KORNGoddess thought they were on an internet singles messageboard? Maybe I am mistaken, but as I read the posts it sounded like some kind of dating site that thought religion was the coolest thing ever. It did NOT look like a messageboard about METAL.
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88. writes:
korn is rap: they were upset because they came in to the chat room with a prejiduced view of all people who are korn fans. they insulted all korn fans and resorted to making general statements about all people that like korn. so what if KoRnGoddess and I carried on a conversation on the post? we weren't insulting anybody and if u don't want to read it go post on another chat. we were korn fans posting on a korn post and thats all that matters.
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89. writes:
I thought this was a "metal underground" site?? Then why are their f***ing three threads on band (or members or whatever) that is barely metal and as above ground as you can get? I want some news on some real metal? Any one remember Death Metal? Black Metal?
And to ashenthorns, a Christian who listens to Dimmu Borgir?? HAHA! Have fun roasting in a nonexistant hell with me you idiot.
90. writes:
consequently...i said I appreciate dimmu borgir...they dont exactly have a poster on my wall though. they are good musicians and I like how they bring a more symphonic sound to black metal. if they effected my faith i wouldnt listen to them. im not sure how one would in fact roast in a nonexistant hell...but i wont be there if i remain strong in faith and hopefully you wont either. not sure why you felt like being hostile, but its ok man (or woman, if you are in fact a female), this is a "metal" site so i understand. i'll pray for you.
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93. writes:
Sorry man, I'm a steadfast atheist and I'm just sick of taking sh**. Don't pray for me, If there is a hell (Which of course I don't believe in), I'll have a first class ticket.
But really brokenwings13, how can a Christian listen to a song about Satan taking over heavan and killing god? Sure they can ignore it but at some point you have to draw the line. (Of sanity lol)
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Ignoring it is the problem, what it is for most is that whole "standing up in the face of evil and not being tempted" bit that you use when listening to it.
Oh yeah, and it sounds good. Only a few songs really bug me with the words, but other than that I keep with me the fact that the bands knows there is a God because they're singing about his counterpart, the fallen angel, Satan. And if the hail Satan and don't believe there is a God, then they're just plain ignorant.
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thats cool Cynic, thats up to you and i respect that. im just doing what im called to do, not trying to give you "s***". i can't say i that i dont hope that your outlook will change, but at the same time its your life and im not going to tell you how to live it, just how i've experienced it. but if you have any questions about it i'd be glad to answer man, just dont want you to go on uninformed as it were.
about the dimmu thing again, i really dont pay attention much to the lyrics, i like the music more...and about drawing the line, i do as i said earlier, stop listening to something if it affects my faith. i mean though, just because i got saved doesnt mean I'm going to listen to the Newsboys or DC Talk or whatnot.
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Yeah, I can enjoy early slayer lyrics cuz I know they were just pissing about (although the hardcore fan base at the time wasn't so happy when they found out). I listen to some other bands like Deicide and co and I can sing the lyrics because I find them harmless. Hail Satan!
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97. writes:
"i can't say i that i dont hope that your outlook will change"
Right back at you.
"but if you have any questions about it i'd be glad to answer man"
I am tetering on a scientific assualt, but truly I came here to discuss music. I spend most of my time on the internet disscussing religion and Christianity in an atheistic perspectince and the last thing I want to do is riddle this page with another arguement.
"just dont want you to go on uninformed as it were"
Trust me, I am as (scarily) informed as it is possible to get on the subject.
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i cant physically prove that there is a God...but then again, no one can physically prove to me that there isn't...however, about Christ, there are over 20,000 historical documents concerning who he was and what he did...and normally when you have that many documents they tend to contradict one another. But all of the historical documents are 99.9% (thats the actual unbiased statistic) coherent with one another and the mismatches are unconsequential (I think i made that word up). Christ did exist. And the evidence, and the things I've experienced through faith, not through a church or a jesus fish, those things have led me to believe in Christ as the son of God. I understand where you are coming from because I've been there. I hope that it can be proved to you some day. Have a nice day ~*KoRnGoddess*~...
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106. writes:
Actually deadnumetalfaggut I work 2 jobs, have my own place and lived halfway around the world while serving in the military. And I know there is a world of better
music out there outside the cd section of Fye or Hot Topic. So unbuckle your
stirrup Baggy britches a little bit and relax. Fukk ppl that cant take a joke! Oh
wait Korn is a joke!
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115. writes:
To DEADMETAL Probably.... brokenwing's thanks I'll be looking into it.... KoRnGoddess I understand your point totally.I don't agree but I understand.I think religion is something that you get for yourself and theirfore must be interpreted your own way in the long run.That's why alot of the Hypocrit's can't stand me.I don't buy the whole shpeel I just take what work's for me upfront and the rest as I need it.
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Yeah um, I've never posted on this site before and I'd just like to say this one thing. Brian is an idiot. I've been a KoRn fan for 11 years (since they came out) and I've got every piece of media ever released by them. Watching Brian in "Who Then Now" was hilarious, and it doesn't make any sense to me why he would go and do something like this. He was a drinking, swearing, piss-happy rocker and now he's got some make-believe God on his side or some sh**. What the f***. KoRn needs another FTL-type album to really set it off for good.
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I thought you'd finished riddling this thread with proselytizing bullsh** ashenthorn?? Really, because I know for a fact that while Jesus may have existed as a normal man, the bible makes no mistake in pointing out how many he miraculously cured, not to mention Jehovah many slaughterings like the egyptians. But there are NO records of a single person out of the thousands that were cured were there?? No. Stop being such a crackhead, noone cares about your bullsh** "facts" pulled out of some fundy pamphlet.
By he way I agreed with brad and madk that this is a metal site, not for rap sh**. SO you to, what music do you actually listen to??
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Cynic, I stopped talking to you...~*KornGoddess*~ and I were briefly discussing some things...there are a number of different discussions going on on this thread so you dont have to read it if you dont want to...I didn't post it for you so dont worry about it, you can keep discussing your stuff and we will discuss ours...no beef man, just saying that if you can share your beliefs I am free to share mine as well...
btw, I did not pull them out of a pamplet, i actually researched all of this stuff because I was as cynical about it all as you were...and yes, there are records of what he did, both biblical and roman and all sorts of other eyewitnesses...thousands of people witnessed what he did...do you think that if the apostles started preaching about his miracles and they were lying then someone would call them out? no one did. the people there saw what he did, the problem was, those who did not believe simply didn't know where his power came from. Also, no archeological find has ever contradicted the bible. You can research all of it if you want. We all draw our conclusions from the evidence we have. I'm not mad at you Cynic because I've been where you are. A "steadfast atheist" and even a satanist. I thought I had the right information but I didn't. Beyond religious pamplets and athiest pamplets I'm just trying to help people man. If they don't want help that's fine, but for those out there that want I am showing them a way out of the pain and misery they are in. To show them that someone cares about them and loves them and can change thier life. I'm not out to brainwash or get money or anything other than to show people the happiness that they can have. Have a good day Cynic.
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125. writes:
(123/124) by ashenthorns
"Cynic, I stopped talking to you...~*KornGoddess*~ and I were briefly discussing some things...there are a number of different discussions going on on this thread so you dont have to read it if you dont want to..."
No, but you see I feel obliged to reply when someone says something I think is false and feel strongly about. Its fine to discuss whatn you want sure, but this is an open forum and I will make my opinion heard if I feel the need to.
And people do call them out. Everyday. Do you not think that the over the long period the Church has reign they did not brutally supress other opinions and religions? Tell me why there are no egytian records of every first born son dying in their kingdom? 20,000 documents are certainly alot, can you point me in the direction of one located on the net that isn't biblical?
What about evolutional archeological finds? Do they not contradict creationism?
I doubt you have ever been in my mind set my friend. Because I am well informed. From what you have said it seems you turn away from religion out of spite, not true belief. This makes us very different. I have pondered these thoughts for years, and there are hundreds of points that I could make for the rejection of any sort of caring creator, let alone the abomination of a religion that is Christianity.
Donate all of your time to charity if you want to be helpful, don't blatently proselytize on internet forums. Your intentions seem pure, but you seemed to make the massive misjudement that all who choose not to believe are in pain and misery.
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128. writes:
It's cool, by all means make your opinion heard...otherwise there would be no point to a forum...
Yes, terrible stuff has been carried out in the name of religion but terrible things have also been carried out in the name of getting rid of it (the holocaust to the jews for example)...we are humans and humans have weaknesses...however, most of the crimes committed by the church were committed not so much by christians but by people who were appointed bishops by freinds and as means of monatary gain. (being a bishop used to be very lucrative)...Christianity has spent the last few hundred years trying to make up for that but it will always be a stain on the church as a body...thats just the way it is...
here are two links that have pretty much the same info but a little more in depth in different areas
http://www.probe.org/docs/ancient.html
http://www.bibletruths.net/Archives/BTAR217.htm
heres a link to a debate about it:
http://www.youdebate.com/cgi-bin/scarecrow/topic.cgi?forum=13&topic=182
I'll find you more if you want but at the moment I don't have the time...
on evolution, I believe in adaption but not evolution...its obvious that animals adapt to their surroundings but at the same time, it is impossible for organic matter to come from non-living matter...also, i believe in Gods design he made animals to adapt...i just think it makes God's creation more incredible...Even Darwin on his deathbed renounced his theory of evolution stating "How I wish I had not expressed my theory of evolution as I have done"...at its roots, evolution and the scientific origins of the universe make no sense...if there was a big bang, where did that matter come from?...When I look around at the complexity of everything, and well everything interacts and has its place and how the slightest change in anything could destroy life totally, it only furthers my belief in Creationsism/Intellegent Design/ or Whatever...
As to the mindset, I turned away out of true belief...I was convinced...as for the abomination of the religion of christianity...i think i may agree with you...religion is the worst thing that ever happened to christianity...true christianity is about a relationship with christ and a change in your life and being a servant to others...I probably get just as sick, if not sicker of the people on late night christian television who always seem to just have pledge drives and have spent at least a thousand dollars on hair products and makeup...thats the abomination...you simply see it as b.s...i see it as something i care about with all my heart being stained by its own adherents...so we agree on at least one thing...
I know that not everyone who is a non-christian is a hurting weak person...it would be stupid to assume so...but I also know that those people are out there and I saw this as an opportunity, if there were any here to share something with them...witnessing is not about forcing anything, im just trying to show another side of life to them...i originally posted to try and add another side to the discussion and its kind of grown which if fine because we have gotten to debate and its something i like to do and from what i gather you do as well...
But for now I must get going, i think i forgot a few things but ill cover them next time i post...have a nice day man...its nice to debate with someone who does research...
129. writes:
The one paragraph got some stuff left out...heres the paragraph in its entirety..
"As to the mindset, I turned away out of true belief...I was convinced that God and Jesus never existed...i was sick of religion and religious people...i felt that science held all the answers to the universe...and as for the abomination of the religion of christianity...i think i may agree with you...religion is the worst thing that ever happened to christianity...true christianity is about a relationship with christ and a change in your life and being a servant to others...I probably get just as sick, if not sicker of the people on late night christian television who always seem to just have pledge drives and have spent at least a thousand dollars on hair products and makeup...thats the abomination...you simply see it as b.s...i see it as something i care about with all my heart being stained by its own adherents...so we agree on at least one thing..."
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130. writes:
Honestly, I couldn't care what religion has done right or wrong in the past. I care what it is doing to the world and me at the moment. Why? Because I can debate the harm its done but that doesn't go any way to proving the fact that it is convoluted and basely.
Here is something very important I want you to read. Darwin did not renounce his belief in evolution. That is a lie spread by an evangelist. The fact that you mentioned it tells me where you get your information.
I do not want to discuss either evolution or the big bang with you for to reasons. I came here to talk about metal, and I could argue with every Christian on the net extensively, there are hundreds of topics I could chose from Jesus false prohecy to the Problem of Evil. But I don't want to. You all present the same theories and I would spend days explaining the ins and outs of evolution only to be presented with crackers like "I just believe" and "Jesus loves you, why do you hate him?". I do not wish to repeat this process with you, even though you seem more intelligent than others I have met recently, and your last comment was nice, but I must decline the offer to debate.
The point is is that my base for rejecting religion has little to do with its atrocitys and human faults. It is to do with evidence and common sense in relation to existance of a benevolent creator.
131. writes:
then we agree to disagree...if someone asks me a question i will answer them but im not going to bring the subject up with you anymore...
incidentally i did a little more research on the darwin thing, and i dont know about it, so im not going to go either way, but i still believe the system flawed...but after a little more research i will concede that one to you...
"even though you seem more intelligent than others I have met recently, and your last comment was nice, but I must decline the offer to debate."
thank you very much i appreciate that...
unless we talk on a band or something i doubt we will speak much again so it has been nice debating with you...
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144. writes:
that's one of my favorite songs.
Have we trials and temptations?
Is there trouble anywhere?
We should never be discouraged,
Take it to the Lord in prayer:
Can we find a friend so faithful
Who will all our sorrows share?
Jesus Knows our every weakness,
Take it to the Lord in prayer.
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151. writes:
It's called metalunderground.com
Are we weak and heavy laden?
Cunbered with a load of care?
Precious Saviour, still our refuge;
Take it to the Lord in prayer:
Do thy friends despise, forsake thee?
Take it to the Lord in prayer;
In His arms He'll take and shield thee;
Thou wilt find a solace there.
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156. writes:
Who gives a f***? Let the guy do what he wants to do. Is it really hurtin anybody that the f***in guy wants to get baptised? He probably realized how f***in close this world is to self-destruction and wanted to do somethin about it. You f***ers should wake up and smell the bullsh** too so i say its fine. He amy have not been the best of guitar players but they did have some good music for a while so LEAVE HIM ALONE!!!
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157. writes:
Organized religion is something I totally dont agree with but this website is not for you f***ers to f***in b**** about politics and God and sh** so shut the f*** about how you do this and that. No one f***in cares they're here for metal not politics, picket signs, and bible study. get the f*** over it. Puhh-lease!
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1. knothead85 writes:
damn. OK so he wants to be a good little christian now... great. Now, did it honestly take ten years in the professional music buisness for him to figure out Korn wasn't exactly happy music? WOW. Lots of respect though for havin the balls to do what makes him happy.