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Album Sales of New Burzum Album Belus to Contribute to Haiti Relief

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According the the official blog of Burzum's Current label, "Byelobog Productions announced that proceeds of the forthcoming Burzum album “Belus” will benefit victims of the earthquake in Haiti."

According to Vikernes, “Black metal is not a label I use for my music any longer,” said Vikernes. “It was the dark, the Dionysiac, and that is a force no man can control. Instead, I pursue the pure and honorable, which includes racial purity for Norwegians, and helping those who suffer misfortunes in life.” Vikernes added that the album will be released March 8 worldwide, including in quake-stricken Haiti.

The exact percentage of money from album sales is unknown at this point in time.

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1. Valley_of_the_Dead writes:

What a sales pitch... Vikernes can suck my balls!!!

# Mar 3, 2010 @ 4:01 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. americanpatriot1 writes:

So that means that Haiti is going to get what......25-30 bucks?

# Mar 3, 2010 @ 4:02 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. Cynic writes:

Nothing more entertaining than Burzum news.

# Mar 3, 2010 @ 4:15 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. Hammerheart writes:

Am I the only one then who sees this as a good thing?

# Mar 3, 2010 @ 7:23 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. Diamond Oz writes:

... And in other news Richard Dawkins has started a fund to build more churches.

I kid. I see it as a good thing too. Kind of backs up my point about not hating racist people either because everyone does something nice once in a while. It just comes as a surprise is all.

# Mar 3, 2010 @ 7:33 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. DeathCrush writes:

that is awfully generous of him... maybe the guy has changed. I really could not see this guy doing this type of thing back when he killed euronymous

# Mar 3, 2010 @ 9:10 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. DeathCrush writes:

oh, and matt, you seriously need a profile pic, it is not that hard!

# Mar 3, 2010 @ 9:10 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. deathfreak writes:

Right I am going to pick this up. Good for him I guess. He has a found something good to do the people.

# Mar 3, 2010 @ 10:38 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. RTB writes:

Racial purity for norwegans.......soooooo does that mean he still condones burning churches in norway and wiping out every trace of christianity orrrrrr???????????
Who in haiti has any $$$ to purchase this lp? Are their black metal fans in haiti?
Surprised he didnt say he would be playing a concert in haiti........
I dont take this guy serious at all so i have a little fun with him when i can.......hopefully he has turned a corner and wants to get back into the general population of normal thinking people and do good deeds like this....but i ll believe it when i see more of it.....its a long road to redemption for him

# Mar 3, 2010 @ 11:31 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. Emperor4Ever writes:

April Fools ain't for another month!!! Come on now!

# Mar 4, 2010 @ 12:21 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. hellrat writes:

ol' vargey's gettin all peaceful out on the telemark farmstead...

# Mar 4, 2010 @ 12:58 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. Analguest writes:

by donating money to haiti he means he is going to pay people of haiti not to come to norway so that they can stay ethnically pure

# Mar 4, 2010 @ 1:56 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. livingDeaDbeat00 writes:

I'm with Hammer and Oz. Wow, the guy does something non-evil, let's all sh!t on him. I can't imagine who in Haiti would buy it either, but at least it's a nice(ish) gesture.

# Mar 4, 2010 @ 2:24 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. Diamond Oz writes:

To be honest it actually makes me want to buy the album. I was considering it before since I don't have any Burzum and am pretty excited about this release, but now he's willing to do this I'm more likely to pick it up. Obviously not sure about how much will go to Haiti but you'd be amazed what a bit of small change could do.

# Mar 4, 2010 @ 6:20 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. stylegurrl writes:

I laughed so hard when I read the article..Now that I've wiped the tears from my eyes I can respond. What a backhanded gesture. Honestly, I'd rather him not donate anything. It amazes me how easily people are fooled and how easily they can put aside his words and deeds. Thank you Analquest-you are one of the few people who seems to get it.

# Mar 4, 2010 @ 10:26 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. Diamond Oz writes:

"It would be better him not donate anything." In what realm of reality does that make sense? It's not like the people of Haiti are going to refuse his help just because some people think he's an arsehole. I'm not trying to make out he's single handedly saving them or that he's a hero or anything but any donation is better than no donation at all.

# Mar 4, 2010 @ 10:37 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. WOTHAN writes:

Sorry, but this is a lie, and I cannot understand why you believe this. Someone wants to hurt Burzum/Varg Vikernes, and this is one of their moves.

# Mar 4, 2010 @ 11:33 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. Irvin88quest writes:

Wothan is right.

This is a lie.

If it's not on burzum.org it's a lie, and this bullsh** is nt on burzum.org.

# Mar 4, 2010 @ 11:35 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. Hell writes:

Shame on you Metal Underground for spreading lies like this.

Check your f***ing sources before you print anything.

# Mar 4, 2010 @ 11:37 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. wilco writes:

so they will buit churches over there form the money they will raise
and burn these f***ing churched down agian

but on the end who cares about hatie
only what comes from there is the people who come to my island and steal the jobs of the local people
and bring that ratt sickness cald aids

# Mar 4, 2010 @ 11:56 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. LordAssenfroth writes:

well his label released the info so i dont think metalunderground is at fault...

that said, im not really sure what to think. im not sure if its the label pushing this, possibly even funding it from their half of the album profits to try to cut some of the hate and animosity people harbor towards him, or if he's actually trying to be nice... who knows with this guy.

speaking of varg, ive always thought it would be funny if some big black guy steals his woman someday and she tells him "im leaving you because his d*** is bigger". that would be funny

# Mar 4, 2010 @ 12:03 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. Hammerheart writes:

Why is it so hard for people to believe that somebody like Varg can change? Yeah, he murdered Euronymous, but that was 18 years ago. Age mellows people out, guys.

# Mar 4, 2010 @ 12:09 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. livingDeaDbeat00 writes:

Interesting that 17, 18, and 19 all agree since they are in fact the same fvcking person.

# Mar 4, 2010 @ 12:48 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. pinto_beans writes:

^ HAHA!! OWNED!

# Mar 4, 2010 @ 1:41 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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25. KMADD writes:

Man I really honestly dont care about his politcal opinions. And I know nothing can touch his old metal albums. But Belus is actually pretty goddamn good.

# Mar 4, 2010 @ 2:30 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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26. KMADD writes:

I meant nothing from burzum. He still aint got nothing on old Mayhem, Bathory and Beherit.

# Mar 4, 2010 @ 2:31 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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27. hellrat writes:

folk get so down on vikernes for offing aarseth...though the runt was a creep of the worst sort...

this is the guy who encouraged dead to kill himself, which he finally did do (or did the runt kill him?)...upon 'discovering' the corpse, runter decides the immediate course of action to follow is to procure film for photography of his fallen frontman, which he then executed, and circulated the results...followed by the harvest of skull fragments for the infamous inner circle necklaces, and may or may not have added bits of dead's brain tissue to a split pea and ham soup he prepared...he called the microbutcher and said "dead's done something really cool, he's killed himself." jorn was floored, and the whole episode tweaked him so bad he quit the band...which is when the count took over on bass


vikernes claims that the runt had clearly stated plans to capture him by means of stun, haul him off to the woods, and torture him to death whilst filming the episode...

If some shady motherfvcker declared similar ideas for my own demise, I would get rid of the goddamn bastard also

hell, even many of the runt's contemporaries speak rather disparagingly about his apparent sh!t character (including members of mayhem).... anders odden sums it up succinctly: "....there was actually a bit of a relief when oystein was killed---it was like, ya, to hell with that guy..."

I certainly never mourned his pitiful loss.

# Mar 4, 2010 @ 3:46 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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28. Diamond Oz writes:

Thanks Hellrat. I was gonna say that earlier but couldn't be arsed lol.

# Mar 4, 2010 @ 3:55 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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29. livingDeaDbeat00 writes:

Thanks hellrat. You condensed everything I just read in Lords of Chaos into a couple paragraphs, well done you.

# Mar 4, 2010 @ 4:14 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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30. LordAssenfroth writes:

good points hellrat, i often forget about the f***ed up sh** euronymous did, and bash varg for being a murderer. of course i still think its f***ed up he killed the guy, but at least he didnt kill someone the world would miss. makes me feel better about thinking belus was actually ok. i still wonder who got the "inner circle" skull necklaces, and if they kept them.

# Mar 4, 2010 @ 4:20 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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31. xDecapitation writes:

lmao #5. I love how you see this in the news feed, then you look down and you see that Metallica are being a$$holes and charging Israelians like 200 bucks for nosebleed tickets haha greedy bastards.

# Mar 4, 2010 @ 4:45 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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32. hellrat writes:

you got it guys...though Oz, this is your job man! no more slacking off!! ;)

i'll for sure make my haitian donation, courtesy of ol varg...glad he's not calling it black, for black metal is long dead...

started, defined by, and finished with one band:

the mighty ***EMPEROR***

100% pure norsk svart

# Mar 4, 2010 @ 5:55 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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33. Diamond Oz writes:

It's all about Venom mate ;)

Not really my job to write about the background of the murder though, I'm a reporter, not a biographer lol.

@Lord Assenthroth, I heard that either members of Marduk or Darkthrone (possibly both) received necklaces made from Dead's skull. Not sure if that's true though.

# Mar 4, 2010 @ 6:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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34. hellrat writes:

ya, just giving you hell...I'm quite fond of the Oz' fine work!

but you know even better than I do...its not about venom, or emperor, or mayhem either...

its ALL about the body count and hirax! TRUE Black Metal :)

say, any word on the SOS files?

cheers man

# Mar 4, 2010 @ 6:52 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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35. Diamond Oz writes:

Haha, me and Prokrastinator make that black metal joke every week lol!

And if you think my work is fine, you should see my p***s!

No word yet on the SOS archive. I'll shoot db an email about it soon :)

# Mar 4, 2010 @ 7:09 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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36. hellrat writes:

good golly NO!... you're alright without flashing yer wares ;)

ya, I'd like to check all the old school...they're fvckin cool as hell

# Mar 4, 2010 @ 7:39 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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37. Crushem writes:

Did not see this coming. Does not play "black metal" anymore? Ok...

# Mar 4, 2010 @ 8:45 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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38. livingDeaDbeat00 writes:

#32 "black metal is long dead" ???

INTERNET-PUNCH TO THE THROAT

# Mar 4, 2010 @ 8:51 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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39. PESTILENCE writes:

f*** Yeah Wilco.

f*** Haiti !!!!

Can we get some love 4 Chile?!!!

# Mar 4, 2010 @ 9:09 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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40. hellrat writes:

yes ma'am...for the most part anyway, there ARE a few vestigal remains of some worth...

hey, is Lords a good read? i always mean to check it out, then fvckin space it

I'll take a charlie, no throat strike... :)

# Mar 4, 2010 @ 9:09 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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41. livingDeaDbeat00 writes:

Rat - I'm superenjoying Lords of Chaos, could have sworn you'd already read it by your stunningly accurate post above ^

I still want to punch you =(

# Mar 4, 2010 @ 9:13 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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42. HPL writes:

I've got and read Lords of Chaos (years ago though). Do you think it's worthwhile reading these days given that Varg has denounced it as nearly 100% bullsh!t?

# Mar 4, 2010 @ 9:44 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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43. WOTHAN writes:

Byelobog Productions never released this "news". Someone who wants to hurt Burzum/Varg Vikernes did.

Not liking Burzum is one thing. Spreading vicious lies like this is another.

The only (ONLY) website with reliable informaton and news regarding Burzum is burzum.org, and MetalUnderground only proves that when they publish this false anti-Burzum "press" release.

# Mar 5, 2010 @ 9:02 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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44. Diamond Oz writes:

I'm not taking advice on what to believe from someone who has to create different characters that agree to try to make a point.

I saw this album in HMV today. Not paying £16 for it.

# Mar 5, 2010 @ 12:27 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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45. hellrat writes:

16 fvckin sterling??? jesus

whats that for us...like 90 fvckin bucks? :)

used to live in Frog...the only thing that kept me from checking out the uk was that bloody pound...its a brutal tax on us yanks ;)

# Mar 5, 2010 @ 1:03 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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46. Diamond Oz writes:

£16 is probably in the area of $30 for you guys. Not paying that for an album I kinda/sorta want.

# Mar 5, 2010 @ 1:10 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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47. hellrat writes:

nah i know...

...still WAY too much for any new record

but i'm a fvckin cheapskate

# Mar 5, 2010 @ 1:31 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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48. Dasher10 writes:

Surprised that people can't believe that Burzum's label can do what it wants with the money it makes from releasing Varg's music. The label can do what it wants with the profits that it earns. And Varg earns next to nothing from his new album, he's doing this for art's sake.

# Mar 5, 2010 @ 2:28 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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49. zoon writes:

from all 12 copies they sell. wow what a humanutarian.

# Mar 5, 2010 @ 7:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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50. Lijemo writes:

I'm no fan of Varg, but more money for Hati is more money for Hati (even if it's not much). He's still a racist ( the "I'm not a racist, BUT..." variety that genuinely don't realize they're racists), and this is a cheap publicity stunt.

But, that doesn't automatically mean that he doesn't also care about the victims-- people aren't 2-dimentional.

Regardless, he's certainly a mile above Pat "it's their own fault because their ancestors made a deal with the devil shame on them for rebelling against slavery" Robertson.

# Mar 6, 2010 @ 9:52 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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51. Lijemo writes:

And did I really just make a post defending Varg?!? Well, there's a first for everything, I suppose. I still don't like the guy, but that doesn't mean that I'm not going to acknowledge a good thing as a good thing.

# Mar 6, 2010 @ 12:30 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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52. NOXIOUS PRICK writes:

actually zoon, the 2xLP version sold out in pre-sales on the first day it was offered (fortunately, i was lucky enough to grab one). that's 1,000 copies sold out before it's actual release. granted, CDs are dead (or at least dying), but there are still people out there that buy them. i know several people who pre-ordered both the vinyl & CD versions. long story short, this will most likely be one of the bigger metal releases out this year... and most certainly THE biggest for black metal.

and regardless of how much is being donated, i think it's a noble gesture, although it is most likely being done on the label's part.

# Mar 10, 2010 @ 1:52 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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53. FVarg writes:

F him and all those dirty ni99ers from Haiti. I doubt even those pu$$y fa9s from Dark Funeral would do anything like this.

# Mar 16, 2010 @ 7:25 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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54. FVarg writes:

oh, and Lord c***NAss way to be a fa9. And I never knew we had so many christian black metal fans. Why is "murder" such a bad thing? It's natural selection. That is something the judeo-pigs are against. Some of you are such abunch of f'n posers. "oh dude lets be rebels....while thinking exactly like everyone else."

# Mar 16, 2010 @ 7:32 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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55. xmikescum writes:

people are drooling knuckle-dragging f***ing morons. u cant wrap ur tiny heads around this? hes still racist and all about racial purity blah blah but hes matured in his belifs and him doing this is prolly to set an example for his fellow whiteys to be good people and help the needy no matter what theyre race. the problem is that ppl think racists are some kind of subhuman mutant race they cant figure out why a racist person would do this. people are dumb.

# Mar 17, 2010 @ 5:01 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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56. LordAssenfroth writes:

i am in no way christian fvarg. you dont know me, you never will, so keep my f***ing name out of your mouth. just because im not some jackass who's mind is still in '92 doesnt mean im a poser. your just some dumbass with a chip on his shoulder cause he feels "misunderstood" or some childish bullsh** like that. your the same as all the other black metal purists, your doing exactly as you said "oh dude lets be rebels....while thinking exactly like everyone else." trying as hard as you can to be superior but somehow you always just end up coming off as a sub-par piece of sh**, like varg. which by the way murder or no murder, is mediocre at best.

# Mar 17, 2010 @ 12:40 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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57. FVarg writes:

haha i don't Care about Varg. Filosofem was good but other than that I only liked him for his writings. and now it looks like he sold us out, hence the name I picked F Varg. And whether or not you pray to your jew god, you are still a christian, with christian morals. Someone is bad because they hate blacks, or jews, or kill people? says who? whether it's the bible or your tv, it's still the same people tell you what to think. Jews. but i will leave it at that. Varg is old news. there are new white pride people in metal.

# Mar 20, 2010 @ 2:27 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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58. FVarg writes:

but besides lordass, you there are alot of other posers too. people in metal talk about "Satan". i'm not a satanist simply for the fact "satan" is a jewish invention too. but anton levay meant it to be about human instinct. if you aren't a social darwinist, and saying you are a satanist you are just a poser. and no social darwinist is going to b**** and moan about "racism". like lordass most of you are still what i call christians. it doesn't matter what you believe, you still live by Christ's ethics. The POS jewish god of slaves. your preachers are now just your televisions.

# Mar 20, 2010 @ 2:32 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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59. xmikescum writes:

varg didnt sell u out jackass

# Mar 27, 2010 @ 2:26 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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60. Dasher10 writes:

1. FVarg, this wasn't Vikernes doing this, it was his label acting independently. Varg had no say in this. Plus he receives nothing from album sales. He makes music for the art.

2. Social Darwinism isn't "natural selection." Natural selection is the system by which genes that aren't adapted to survival fail to pass on since they fail to produce a good mate or they just cause those bearing the gene to die young. Your ideal world would collapse upon itself. Read some Thomas Hobbes, yo.

Also, women are physically weaker than men. I guess that it's natural for men to kill all women since that promotes, "natural selection." By your logic, cloning would be how people reproduce instead of sex since "weakness" has been purged from humanity. That makes breeding that much less fun.

And every society that's been stable has punished murdering their own. Even the Spartans and Aztecs only allowed murder to be legal upon the races that they conquered, which were the Helots and Mayans, respectively. For instance, if you were a Roman or Viking, it was expected that you would go out and conquer, rape and pillage but criminals in Rome were publicly executed, while the punishment for murder in medieval Scandinavia was exile.

Plus the age of melee combat is over. Shooting an unarmed person is hardly a display of strength. A six-year-old girl could shoot a healthy thirty-five-year-old male and kill him. Does that make the kid stronger? There are far more dishonorable ways to kill people than there are true tests of strength in our world.

3. Anton LaVey was friends with Sammy Davis Jr. A black Jew. Your ideology is far more in line with with the late William Luther Pierce, author of The Turner Diaries.

# Mar 27, 2010 @ 2:16 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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61. FVarg writes:

Shooting someone isn't a display of strength? We've just moved on for the most part for now to guns instead of edged weapons. The same rules apply. Not killing your own, ok. So since someone is born on the same continent as me that makes them min? Since we're all "americans" and all? lmao! Spartans had to kill slaves without being caught as a right of passage. Yes natural selection is the natural weeding out of undesirable traits, like cowardice. Laws do not mean anything, or don't have to. Living the way you were meant to live today is being a "criminal". I'm not arguing with anybody about that. I'll take whatever I want and do anything that helps me as long as I think I can get away with it. I'm not going to debate about it because I don't care what your opinions are.
As for Anton Lavey He took most of the Satanic Bible from "Might is Right" something that goes all against your humanist BS. And it's very racist. You dont know what the f*** you are talking about.

# Mar 27, 2010 @ 5:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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62. FVarg writes:

My purpose is to steal, rob, and do whatever else to make my life and my friends and familys life as easy as possible while having as many children as possible. "Mine" are my friends and family. It's nothing to debate about, thats just the way it is.

# Mar 27, 2010 @ 5:20 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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63. Dasher10 writes:

The Helots were the slaves. Spartans didn't enslave their own. They conquered another city state and used them as their slaves. And it wasn't killing one without getting caught. It was a ritual sacrifice in public and a celebration.

Also, it takes the same amount of courage to shoot somebody as it does to stab somebody but requires less physical strength. Cowardice can be trained out of people but genetics dictate somebody's size. There is nothing romantic about killing in cold blood but much to idealize about ritualized dueling.

And secondly, I'm not a humanist. My ideology is best described as realpolitik. I'm a pragmatist with a very flexible and consequentialist morality. I see the world not as it should be but how it is. And quite honestly, if you're as ruthless as you say you are, you should join the military. There are a ton of people in Afghanistan who deserve to be shot. Don't prey on the weak, go into battle against a worthy enemy and proove your worth. That's how the strong are determined. You'll either come back a hero or die a hero. Thuggery doesn't make you one of the worthy, seeing actual combat does.

# Mar 27, 2010 @ 7:07 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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64. Dasher10 writes:

*prove

# Mar 27, 2010 @ 7:07 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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65. FVarg writes:

have you read Might is Right? I would suggest the book to anyone. I'm not obsessed with race like I used to be. some things changed it recently. but still i see it as being on a team. and i would never consider someone who wasn't white part of the team. It's just that people get under my skin talking about racism, when they claim to be satanists, or even atheists or agnostics for that matter. if you do not believe in any particular god what tells you what is right or wrong besides propaganda? nothing is right are wrong. Nothing is evil or good. Things just are, and you look after yourself. arguing about anything is pointless because it's actions that make things happen. from Might Is Right: Though the survival of the strongest is the logic of events, yet personal cowardice is the great vice of our demoralized age. Cowardice is corroding the brain and blood of our race, but men have learnt to disguise this terrible infirmity behind the canting whine of "humanity" and "goodness". Words flow instead of blood, and terrible insults are exchanged instead of terrible blows.
As far as the army. The United States is not my "team". If people want to go there and kill people for money it's not wrong to me. I dont care. But if they get killed thats not wrong either. there is nothing wrong with the world. the best group will win in the long run.

# Mar 27, 2010 @ 7:49 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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66. FVarg writes:

But that is the law. The weak (cowardly, stupid, and so on) will either be killed off quickly, or they will submit to someone and be enslaved. That is the law. Most americans choose to be enslaved. It's criminals who really live by "Gods" law. Which are the laws of nature.

# Mar 27, 2010 @ 7:53 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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67. FVarg writes:

Oh yea, and stabbing takes more. attacking someone with a knife takes a lot more. you can shoot someone from anywhere, even a car. but stabbing is a physical thing, like a fight, only your life is on the line, and if you let the other person get the upper hand it may be over for you. shooting does take nerve if you know the other person may be armed. But in might is right, it said something to the effect of "Keep your fangs as sharp as science will allow". For now that is guns. One day we may have to go back to axes and swords. I think that would be cool.

# Mar 27, 2010 @ 8:03 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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68. Dasher10 writes:

And yet, when a nation is divided, it opens itself up to invasion. Chaos invites order to be imposed on it. There has never been a time when a lawless land has stayed lawless for long. Even today, when lands in Africa fall into anarchy, some warlord seizes control. When Rome fell, the church took control or Europe. When China was divided into three Kingdoms, the Jin Dynasty conquered it. When the peasants stormed the Bastille, Robespierre started the Reign of Terror after he filled the vacuum. Anarchy is nice in principle, but it has never worked in practice.

# Mar 27, 2010 @ 9:13 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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69. Dasher10 writes:

Also, Jack London was being ironic when he wrote Might is right. He was a socialist. The book is a satire.

# Mar 27, 2010 @ 11:04 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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70. Dasher10 writes:

And LaVey was ethnically (but not religiously) Jewish

# Mar 27, 2010 @ 11:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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71. hellrat writes:

'...nothing is worth arguing about...'

...then shut yer goddamned yap, ya fvckin kook

'...actions, not words..."

well then send us a fvckin video of yer very best, o righteous keyboard soldier...let us see all these 'worthy' pillagings you claim

longing for the days of axes and swords, ya fvcking sneak?

well I don't mind a bit of indulgence myself...no, not at all

I use my axe most days anyway, it is but a humble double bit wood cutter's piece...but let any of your ilk come a snuffling by my place, and you'll find that it eagerly looks forward to serving its alter purpose

your poor snivelling body SHOULD rightfully be relieved of its top heavy burden, no?

fvckin hypocritical piece of human sh*t

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