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Heavy Metal Making A Comeback In Egypt

Emad Abdalla at Reuters Africa has issued the following report:

Heavy Metal Making A Cautious Comeback In Egypt

The mostly black-clad crowd goes wild in a frenzy of slam dancing to the music of heavy metal band Black Sabbath, played by Egyptian rockers on a placid bank of the Nile river.

Heavy metal musicians and fans, once branded as dangerous Satanists by the Cairo government, are making a quiet comeback in deeply conservative Egypt, where they are trying to avoid missteps that sent heavy metal to the gallows in the mid-1990s.

It has taken heavy metal artists and fans years to crawl back to the limelight and in the meantime a new generation of rockers has emerged, playing safe and imposing self-censorship to avoid accusations of devil worship.

Moanis Salem, 28, whose band Invaders was formed in 2006, said he has had no problems with the police or complaints from the cultural centre.

"We are not playing tracks of a blasphemous nature or glorifying Satan. We are not seeking trouble," he said. Salem, who has also played with homegrown band Divine, said the new generation of rockers was fortunate to have the Internet to communicate with fans.

But he regretted the low turnout at concerts, which are mostly held at the Sawy Cultural Wheel on Zamalek, a Nile island close to downtown Cairo.

"Now we use the Internet to communicate with people, announce times of concerts and share our music with fans but to tell you the truth old is gold. Thousands used to rock in. Not any more. The largest crowd we had in Sawy Centre was 350 fans."

Arabic-speaking Egypt is not naturally heavy metal-friendly territory and the genre draws small audiences. Arabic songs and Western pop and rap stars are more popular.

In the 1990s, heavy metal concerts took place regularly and were packed with screaming fans, mostly wealthy or upper middle class youth. Homegrown bands such as Steel Edge, Cartoon Killers and Andromeda shot to prominence. But that stopped when police arrested scores of heavy metal fans in 1997, including some who languished in jails for weeks over accusations they belonged to a Satanic cult aimed at spreading drugs and sexual freedom.

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1. bbristowe writes:

So Metal Music Glorifies the illusion of Satan, where as rappers glorify blood money and violence?

# Dec 20, 2008 @ 4:32 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. TokiWartooth writes:

And skeeting on some hoes let us not forget about dem hoes.

# Dec 20, 2008 @ 5:06 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. Netromancer writes:

Honestly, I doubt misogyny and sexism would be seen as all that bad compared to Satanic lyrics over there. I might be wrong. Kinda hope I am.

# Dec 20, 2008 @ 5:14 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. Red writes:

Great, let's stage dive off the sphinx

# Dec 20, 2008 @ 5:20 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. Jenny writes:

I'm glad Metal music is slowly making a 'comeback' but I find it extremely saddening that fans/bands have to hide from the past. Certain countries are not very metal friendly, always pointing their fingers: they are scared of anything different. Metal fans/bands go through some rough times in places like that.

All I can say is that I love Metal even more knowing that people are willing to keep great music around even if it's not accepted. Plus, it also goes to show how lucky I am to wear a Metal shirt in public without having people yell at me.

# Dec 20, 2008 @ 8:13 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. bbristowe writes:

"Honestly, I doubt misogyny and sexism would be seen as all that bad compared to Satanic lyrics over there. I might be wrong. Kinda hope I am."

True, but I'm talking about the illusion of Satan, seeing as how he is not real. From a logical stand point, the violence portrayed by a large number of rap artists towers over metal artists

# Dec 20, 2008 @ 9:27 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. Diamond Oz writes:

Give it time and Iron Maiden will be using the Pyramids themselves as part of the stage setting for when they do Powerslave.

# Dec 20, 2008 @ 9:28 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. TimW writes:

And this is coming from a craphole of a country that worships jackal heads and cats...wtf....learn to have running water with flushing toilets and bathe a bit more before you sand knats decide what is good to play or not......camel jockeys........

# Dec 20, 2008 @ 9:32 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. Fuck_A_Name writes:

^lolololololololol Ilove me some good ol ignorant racist remarks, they always leave me in a stitch on the floor.

No seriously, lol at Diamond Oz's comment haha that one had me goin jolly for a bit

Now for my actual opinion on the article lol

Self-censorship doesnt seem very "Metal" . sometimes, the best part of metal to me is that it offends people. It pushes boundaries. If the metal that's coming back to egypt is like the bands mentioned in the article, then i weep for their actual metal scene over there.

# Dec 20, 2008 @ 9:45 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. KORNDOGG writes:

Post #6- and you have been to the afterlife right? So you know whats real and what is not from a 'logical' standpoint right? Honestly, you have no f***ing clue if a satan or a devil actually exsists or at one time exsisted. I dont know either, but i refuse to say something is fake, or false without facts. But you probably believe we came from f***inhg fish or monkeys, right?

# Dec 20, 2008 @ 10:39 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. Gunface138 writes:

I gotta agree with FAN... these Egyptian "metalheads" just dont get it. Reading this article made me sick. Lets hope metal truly makes a resurgence and dominates the musical scene, it might rattle these conservative knuckleheads out of their old-world, superstitious ways.

But then again, if the scene gets any bigger, all the former Britney Spears and Kanye West fans will be saturating what was already an oversaturated scene with sh**ty bands and poppy rip-offs.

# Dec 21, 2008 @ 1:13 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. Cynic writes:

Not to spark a debate here KORNDOGG, but anyone who doesn't believe in evolution needs to go back to kindergarten. At TimW - as opposed to worshipping car chases and celebrities?

# Dec 21, 2008 @ 1:28 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. Netromancer writes:

I wasn't defending this avenue of thought, I was saying I hoped gender equality would take precedence over opposition to a few silly song lyrics. Unfortunately I don't think that's the truth.

# Dec 21, 2008 @ 3:33 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. Red writes:

Hey Cynic, I've wanted to know if your avatar is a picture of you or just somebody else...cause you kinda scare the sh** out of me if it's you...LOL

# Dec 21, 2008 @ 7:49 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. Fuck_A_Name writes:

"I dont know either, but i refuse to say something is fake, or false without facts"

funnily enough, i refuse to say something is true or valid without facts.

I saw a unicorn the other day, except it had a p***s instead of a horn, and it shot lazer beams out of it's a$$hole and killed all the people in the daycare center down the street.

So youre going to believe that^until someone comes up with evidence that that didnt happen.

I on the other hand, would severely doubt that was even possible, unless someone showed me photographic evidence, and even then, meh, photoshop.

huh?

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# Dec 21, 2008 @ 11:07 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. IrishMetal writes:

Hey FAN was that unicorn invisible and pink too?

Yet again I agree with Cynic. KORNDOGG needs to sit down.

And Red, Cynics avatar be Malefic - the artist of Xasthur

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# Dec 21, 2008 @ 12:48 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. deathbringer writes:

"Self-censorship doesnt seem very "Metal" . sometimes, the best part of metal to me is that it offends people. It pushes boundaries."

F.A.N., I agree with your sentiment, but you have to put it into perspective as everything is relative. If self-censorship (which I didn't read is necessarily what's happening here) is needed to get their art accepted or put on live shows at all, then it's a smart move for those bands to some degree. There is a fine line to be tread while upholding one's integrity, but I feel it can be done. Just putting on heavy metal shows is pushing the envolope over there to some degree. Then they can push it more from there until one day someone goes too far and the government cracks down on the entire scene that's built up.

The Internet changes the scenario a little, but not really for bands who want to play their music live for heavy metal fans in their own countries.

# Dec 21, 2008 @ 1:12 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. Cynic writes:

Good post db, so many bands like Manowar and Priest talk about fighting for the right to listen to the music you do, but rarely have we ever seen a case like this where metal is truly persecuted. Playing Sabbath covers is no doubt on the same extreme line of society in Egypt that metal bands like Death and Deicide pushed in the west.

Thanks IrishMetal, great post F.A.N., and to Red - don't worry I look a lot more cheery in real life :)

# Dec 21, 2008 @ 1:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. TimW writes:

My point being is who the f$%k is egypt to say whether or not a band worships Satan or not when they worship friggin animals and make sand sculptures of cats[which are the most useless animal on the planet unless you own a chineese restaraunt]. But i digress, an opinion from a culture that has no hygeine and eats dirty nasty disgusting camels as a meal...has no right pointing fingers at people who listen to satanic metal or whatever metal they feel they wish to listen too. Its like watching planet of the apes all over again on constant re-run.

# Dec 21, 2008 @ 1:54 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. Fuck_A_Name writes:

Now that i consider it, I'll concede to that one db. As far as cultural standards go, these guys are walking the tightrope just expressing the music at all. Here I am, thinking them to be yellow-bellied cowards, for playing music that imposes restrictions on itself, when my musical scene goes practically unchecked in musical and lyrical content (ooohhh, big scary warning labels) God, I'm spoiled lol

However, the article did read "playing safe and imposing self-censorship" , so there goes that point db lol.

# Dec 21, 2008 @ 2:00 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. bbristowe writes:

"Post #6- and you have been to the afterlife right? So you know whats real and what is not from a 'logical' standpoint right? Honestly, you have no f***ing clue if a satan or a devil actually exsists or at one time exsisted. I dont know either, but i refuse to say something is fake, or false without facts. But you probably believe we came from f***inhg fish or monkeys, right?"

Well, no, I haven't. But thanks for asking. You can assume all you want. Do you believe in Jesus and Christianity? Yeah, I believe we came from monkeys. Makes more sense than us all coming from "Adam and Eve"....that would make us inbred right? Anyways I do have a clue, it's called...life? I don't need to live my life by 10 commandments, seems silly to me. But to each their own right?

# Dec 21, 2008 @ 6:50 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. Cynic writes:

TimW - "My point being is who the f$%k is egypt to say whether or not a band worships Satan or not when they worship friggin animals and make sand sculptures of cats" - Who the f*** is America to say whether or not a man can have more than one wife when they worship sex on TV all day?

Point being, Egypt has different cultural values to the West, and they would look upon many aspects of Western culture as decadent, materialistic and generally signalling moral decay just as you view theirs. Your holier than thou ignorance obviously blinds you from understanding anything different from the culture you were raised in.

# Dec 21, 2008 @ 7:13 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. bbristowe writes:

skeet skeet

# Dec 21, 2008 @ 7:23 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. KORNDOGG writes:

To cynic- The theory of evolution

In the begining we were all fish swimming around in the water. And then one day, a couple fish had a retard baby. And the retard baby was different so it got to live. So the retard fish goes on to make more retard babies, and then one day the retarded baby fish crawled out of the ocean with its mutant fish hands and it had butt sex with a squirrel, And they made a retard frog squirrel. Then that had a retarded baby that was a monkey fish frog. Next the monkey fish frog had butt sex with another monkey, and they had a retard baby that had butt sex with more monkeys. And that made you!!!!!!!

There you go, we are the retarded offspring of 5 monkeys having butt sex with a fish squirrel.

# Dec 21, 2008 @ 7:26 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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25. Cynic writes:

Evolution is scientific fact. I'm guessing you don't believe in gravity either. Even the Catholic Church and the Pope acknowledge that.

# Dec 21, 2008 @ 7:31 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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26. deathbringer writes:

F.A.N. - my comment about censorship - the "which I didn't read is necessarily what's happening here" part - was meant in regard to the band being interviewed. It was mentioned as a generality before the quotes came in. I guess I wasn't clear the way I wrote the side note.

# Dec 21, 2008 @ 7:40 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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27. IrishMetal writes:

KORNDOGG gets his facts from South Park. There can be no more arguing with him because it is actually considered a crime in some countries to make fun of the heavily disabled.

And the Pope acknowledges that evolution is a very real possibility, which is as good as saying that he believes in it.

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# Dec 21, 2008 @ 8:55 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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28. DeathInEye writes:

TimW...I may be wrong...but I'm pretty sure Egyptians haven't worshipped Anubis/cats for over a thousand years. Even then you're generalizing an ancient society to one religion of two gods when they had several sects and over 50 gods/goddesses, maybe more? Not to mention one of the most innovative societies.

As far as the "self-censorship" goes, you have to take into consideration that the Government had already taken severe action against the metal community once before. I had never heard of that before reading this article. If they cross the line who knows what might happen and no one outside the metal community would care. I think baby-steps make sense.

# Dec 21, 2008 @ 9:01 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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29. KORNDOGG writes:

It is not a scientific fact! It is in most part theory, very little of it is factual. I just want someone to answer me this............Why are monkeys not evolving into humans anymore? If that theory is correct, there should be at least some half human monkeys by now right? Of course the human race has evolved, im not denying that. We have evolved in technology, we are smarter. If we came from monkeys, where did monkeys come from? Sorry boys, but there is a creator, not saying any religion is 100% correct, but there definetly is a creator!

# Dec 21, 2008 @ 10:31 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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30. brandedcfh420 writes:

evolution and creation co-exist on a parallel existence....

# Dec 21, 2008 @ 10:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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31. Cynic writes:

*Sigh* - Scientific theory and fact are the same thing, different from common usage of the word theory. If you'd listened in school maybe you'd have learnt that, but don't worry, wikipedia can help - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory

My jaw is honestly dropping right now at your lack of understanding of the topic. I mean, the questions you are asking show a massive lack in the basics. It's like saying "I don't believe in gravity, because planes can fly!". I'll humor you anyway.

Monkeys and humans both evolved from the same line of primates. But they experienced different food sources, events, habitats etc so evolved differently. Intelligence no doubt came at a more exponential speed as we became the dominant species so there is a significant difference. Evolution takes an incredibly long time, all species are undergoing the act of evolution as they breed and die, experiencing the survival of the fittest.

Where did monkeys come from? All species are the tips of branches on a massive tree spanning hundreds of millions of years. Each evolved from further down the tree, right down to the first living organism. Again, listening in school or wikipedia may be of help.

# Dec 21, 2008 @ 10:53 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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32. DeathInEye writes:

Maybe god is a monkey!

# Dec 21, 2008 @ 10:53 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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33. deathbringer writes:

Yeah, I meant to make a passing comment about Korndogg's comment, but I forgot. Let's see who can make just as "retarded" a story about the story of creation. No doubt it will sound just as dumb, if not moreso, if you frame it in such retarded terms. It really didn't justify a thoughtful answer.

# Dec 22, 2008 @ 12:09 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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34. bbristowe writes:

"Sorry boys, but there is a creator, not saying any religion is 100% correct, but there definetly is a creator!"

Did you go to bible school? Or did they teach creationism in every one of your classes?

How can you say monkeys aren't evolving? You can teach a monkey to do ANYTHING. That's evolution right there. The Human raced evolved into what we are today simply through pure adaptation i.e. climate, food scarcity etc. The theory of evolution is the most reliable answer, especially considering the alternatives . Human DNA is 98.4 percent identical to the DNA of chimpanzees. You can't ignore that. That being said, there are many more theories of evolution besides just the one. A personal favourite of mine is the Toba catastrophe theory. Approx. 70k-80k years ago a super volcanic event occurred at lake Toba causing the worlds population to decrease to anywhere between 1,000 to 10,000 people. The explosion was approx 4.2 ZJ in power. This eruption could have caused large environmental changes (i.e. global temperature drop [Ice Age]) and caused population bottlenecks ,which, in turn, accelerated differentiation of the isolated human populations causing most of all the other "human" species to be wiped out except for Neanderthals and Humans.

Even if you don't like that at least read into the reconstruction of the Neanderthal genome.

# Dec 22, 2008 @ 12:23 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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35. Netromancer writes:

One can argue "who the hell are they to judge?". But the point remains that they are the ones in power and get the make the rules. Many of us are lucky enough not to live in such a strict and conservative country, but that doesn't erase tha fact that these countries still exist and are more than able to censor what they deem unfit. Yeah, we all know it sucks. So as DeathIn Eye said, baby-steps are better than no steps at all.

# Dec 22, 2008 @ 12:24 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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36. Bind.Torture.Kill. writes:

What I'm wondering is why Nile isn't popular in Egypt...All their music surrounds the Ancient Egyptians, whom the modern Arab Egyptians appreciate.

# Dec 22, 2008 @ 12:25 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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37. Cynic writes:

bbristowe - shhh, else they'll find out about that monkey you've been keeping! Speaking of Neanderthals and brutal death metal...

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# Dec 22, 2008 @ 12:44 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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38. bbristowe writes:

He tells me eeeeeeeeeeeverrrrryyythinnngggg

# Dec 22, 2008 @ 3:35 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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39. KORNDOGG writes:

Cynic will believe anything the history channel tells him............

"Scientific theory and fact are the same thing, different from the common usage of the word theory."
This has nothing to do with paying attention in high school! You must still be in high school, theory no matter how its used is still theory. Scientific theory is somewhat factual but is not a "fact". In scientific theory there are alot of grey areas, where they use theorys of how or when something happened. I think you need to go back to school. 'Just like bbristowe said, there are many theorys and he even has a personal favorite! I think you might want to google the word "theory" again idiot.

# Dec 22, 2008 @ 7:27 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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40. IrishMetal writes:

Theory in science is a completely different term u idiot KORNDOGG."It is for this instance that a scientific theory is a claim based on a body of evidence." Evidence - fossil record, microevolution at work today, over the few years that it has been observed there are changes in different species. So over millions of years the changes will be huge.

As Cynic explained monkeys and man evolved from the same general ancestor. We just happened to have the bigger stick.

Deathbringer the creation story - A magical space being that has been around forever, even before time, decided all at once/during infinity - no time scale, to create things. Took this omnipotent being seven "days" to do so, and he included a random tree that would make people smart. Obviously this is a sin so he tell the people he made not to eat it. They, in their childlike mental state could not help themselves but do it, especially since the satan character god provided told them to do so. Anyways they eat the fruit, get f***ed outta the garden and have incestual sex until the world is as it is today.

Hows that sound KORNDOGG? bout rite? i think its still more tolerant than your/south parks theory of evolution

# Dec 22, 2008 @ 8:11 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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41. deathbringer writes:

You didn't use the word "retarded" enough to have the same impact :-o

# Dec 22, 2008 @ 9:13 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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42. Fantasy_and_Torture writes:

All this theory has my head hurting. Where's my drumsticks? Hey check out my band Gas Station Showdown. myspace.com/gasstationshowdown. Keep It Metal.

# Dec 22, 2008 @ 9:18 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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43. TimW writes:

Evolution my ass!....If evolution was actually real then how come the africans havent evolved enought to feed them fu%$king selves yet.....always crying for handouts.....evolve then douchebags....theory of evolution=FAIL.

# Dec 22, 2008 @ 10:56 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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44. IrishMetal writes:

TimW - that has nothing to do with anything you absolute spaztard

# Dec 22, 2008 @ 11:35 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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45. ChassMasterPlus writes:

bbristowe, cant help but comment on that first comment. though i agree with you that their accusations of devil worship are wholly bullsh**, they never said anything about rap being ok, so that was just a blind stab in the dark at another genre. AS for where this thread has gone, how the f*** did we end up talking about monkeys and creation and listening to black metal scary boy go on about his br00talness?

# Dec 22, 2008 @ 12:12 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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46. ChassMasterPlus writes:

also agreed with IrishMetal, TimW, what the flying f*** are u talking about you spaztard?

# Dec 22, 2008 @ 12:13 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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47. brandedcfh420 writes:

the egyptians are so caught up about devil worshipping that they think their so called god is the one way. just another religous society in need of an a$$ kicking!!!

# Dec 22, 2008 @ 12:19 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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48. Cynic writes:

Evolution has an insurmountable amount of evidence and logic behind it. Again I can tell from post 29 you barely understand what we're even discussing. Hope you stay in school KORNDOGG.

# Dec 22, 2008 @ 1:53 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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49. Cynic writes:

Holy crapola, TimW has help this thread hit an all time low. The ignorance level is off the god damn chart, or a spaztard chart as people seem to be declaring it.

# Dec 22, 2008 @ 3:10 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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50. Blindgreed1 writes:

Spaztard... I like it.

# Dec 22, 2008 @ 3:16 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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51. americanpatriot1 writes:

Yet another stalemate. It seems that one side is just refusing to see that you can actually have 2 correct points on the same issue. I wonder who that side is? Can someone say Kornyname? C'mon Korndogg, everyone here has valid points, but open your mind. I am a Christian, but I understand there is also a NEED for evolution. Were it not for eveolution, we would have all died out long ago.

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52. BoltThrower writes:

Evolution is the easy part. The hard part is getting from non-life to self-replicating life in one easy step. There isn't much in between there.

# Dec 22, 2008 @ 4:11 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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53. Fuck_A_Name writes:

If everybody actually took the bible for what it really was, i wouldnt have such a problem with christianity. It's Aesop's fables, interwoven with historical references. All the stories of miracles are meant to teach you a lesson, to become a better person. They really shouldnt be taken at face value. Especially not the creation story, because that is literally impossible. Since when can a snake talk? Women didnt used to have periods? Or go through painful childbirth? Even though EVERY other species of animal does? Two peple populated the entire earth?

(also, keep in mind, where the hell did cain and abel's wives come from? That's right, the unmentioned daughters of adam and eve. eeewwww....incest ftw)

As for evolution...

Korndogg, why are some people black, some people white, some people tan, some people yellow, depending on where they live in the world? God made everybody those colors for no reason, just cause he felt like it? Not to mention all the physical differences based on climate. I'm guessing those are all arbitrary too?

oh, and db, yeah I just read you wrong, sorry for bein a douche about it lol I've been doin that to godlike a lot lately too, misinterpreting things he says :p

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# Dec 22, 2008 @ 6:02 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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54. bbristowe writes:

I know what you mean Chassmaster but I was reffering to "Arabic-speaking Egypt is not naturally heavy metal-friendly territory and the genre draws small audiences. Arabic songs and Western pop and rap stars are more popular.

# Dec 22, 2008 @ 7:16 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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55. TimW writes:

Spazztard?...lol.....Its real funny how when people have differing views, the insults start to fly. I for one dont really give a flying flip what anyone believes in to be real honest. But my metal music means alot too me, it has got me through rough times in my life without having to be a drunk or a druggie pos. Most religion is just slavery, but i am not an atheist either, if you monkey evolution lovers can understand that.

And the african analogy was used to prove that if we evolve as you say we do then how come the savages there havent caught up with medicine and the ability to grow food...it took the white man in South africa to build farms and a real working society, yet when apartheid stopped..the savages started to take the white duth and belgium peoples land and murdered them...do some research and stop being a left wing lunatic whacko.

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56. brandedcfh420 writes:

TimW writes:
But my metal music means alot too me, it has got me through rough times in my life without having to be a drunk or a druggie pos.

i love metal too, and smoke 420, does that make me a pos??

# Dec 22, 2008 @ 8:02 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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57. bbristowe writes:

"And the african analogy was used to prove that if we evolve as you say we do then how come the savages there havent caught up with medicine and the ability to grow food...it took the white man in South africa to build farms and a real working society, yet when apartheid stopped..the savages started to take the white duth and belgium peoples land and murdered them...do some research and stop being a left wing lunatic whacko."

lol? Do some research? Do some traveling!!!At this point the people of N.Africa are so depraved of the necessities of life that they will do anything to get their hands on it. The people that DO have those abuse their power and are able to manipulate anyone into a life of crime and rebellious attitude. Remember how Hitler came to power in the 1920s? Did you research that? Maybe if you did, you would see the similarities.

# Dec 22, 2008 @ 9:29 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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58. AlliedFront676 writes:

TimW you are a complete moron! KornDog you continue to get dumber! Finally something i can agree on with Branded!

# Dec 22, 2008 @ 10:16 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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59. Fuck_A_Name writes:

^i mean, the man listens to korn. How he manages to type still astounds me.

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# Dec 22, 2008 @ 10:21 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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60. TimW writes:

brandedcfh420 im talking about shooting up and all the junkie type stuff. If you think doing drugs is so cool, then so be it...not my body, but you of all people, im trying to be on your side with this argument here, so show a little more love and put the joint down long enough to listen to what im saying.

57. bbristowe i give 2 sh**s about the africans, we have many more problems to deal with here in America then worrying about everyone else at the moment, but im sure you are one of those Obama lovers, so enjoy that choice in life.

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# Dec 22, 2008 @ 10:58 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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61. TimW writes:

And since when did hardcorp metal heads turn into a bunch of p***y a$$ monkey lovers that want to feed the f^%cking world and turn in to a bunch of freedom hippies?

Very sickening that the metal i knew back in the day is now followed by a bunch of leftist whackjobs that preach tolerance of Obongo our new president and just seem to have no real fire left in them to be rebellious.

# Dec 22, 2008 @ 11:01 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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62. bbristowe writes:

lol, put the joint down long enough to understand. Half these posts I make are made ripped. Ganj isn't a drug, it's a plant. THC is a drug. Just because your to inbred to comprehend history doesn't mean I have to follow your dimly lit path.

I'm not even an American citizen and I know more about your countries history then you do. If you don't give a sh** about Africans, don't bring it up, and I won't scrutinize you for being so mislead.

Your country only has so many problems because the people bring them upon themselves. Sucks to you. You may call my views leftist, but I call them informed. Two sides of the same coin right?

# Dec 22, 2008 @ 11:14 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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63. brandedcfh420 writes:

bbristowe writes:
Remember how Hitler came to power in the 1920s?

hitler came to power in the 30s....do some research yourself!!!!

TimW writes:
brandedcfh420 im talking about shooting up and all the junkie type stuff. If you think doing drugs is so cool, then so be it

ive never shot up any drug in my life. im just a 420er

# Dec 22, 2008 @ 11:36 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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64. Netromancer writes:

Ok. I read about it alot here. All the American problems. We need to take care of our own business. Screw other countries. Blah, blah, blah. Do I think it's true? Yes. I actually do.
So, Ill put the question out to everyone.

What are you doing about it?

Everyone will quote chapter and verse when complaining. Anyone out there getting constructive? Instead of arguing about who has it worse or whether we were created or evolved, who's left or right, how can it get fixed? This isnt a personal attack or insult. If you take it that way you are missing the point entirely. Oh, and if anyone takes this as leftist or "hippie BS" don't bother to respond. I don't put a label on trying to make things better.

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65. bbristowe writes:

I'm talking about the grounds on which he became so popular. He began his rise in the 20s and siezed power in the 30s. My point is why he gained so much renown.

# Dec 23, 2008 @ 12:46 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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66. Cynic writes:

So many stupid things said by TimW, so little patience. Since when was metal only for racist nazi's like you? Funny how you claim metal has lost rebellion when you're whining about drug use and clinging to your bible stories.

"Its real funny how when people have differing views, the insults start to fly." - Lol! I think your high horse is actually a dead cow there looking at your previous posts.

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# Dec 23, 2008 @ 12:50 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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67. IrishMetal writes:

If TimW doesnt understand why he is wrong about Africa nothing will penetrate to set him straight - it's not that they haven't evolved - due to many socio-economic factors and relative wealth, they haven't been able to catch up to "western" countries because the technological advances have been too swift in the first place.

They don't have the technology base to take advantage of advances, and shipping in good from a western monopolized market is destroying their economy even further.

Your point about whites building up their economy? How about the way they destroyed it with slavery dumbass, takin all the fit males and keeping the area in constant warfare, by inciting tribal hatreds against each other - go learn yourself some history, form an opinion with some merit and/or thinking power beyond, "uh duh they are sh** hur hur hur!!!" and then you can enter into a debate.

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# Dec 23, 2008 @ 3:49 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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68. bbristowe writes:

Couldn't have said it any better than Irish.

# Dec 23, 2008 @ 4:01 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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69. BoltThrower writes:

This thread has evolved into a duckbilled platypus.

# Dec 23, 2008 @ 5:55 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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70. IrishMetal writes:

It has stingers on the back of its' legs?

# Dec 23, 2008 @ 7:09 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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71. That_One_Guy writes:

I was going to say something to KORNDOGG and TimW, but I don't really have enough time to waste on either of them.

It's a good thing really, in my opinion, that metal is making some sort of a mediocre comeback, even if it is only tepid, lame metal. Who knows, maybe that will open the door for more extreme metal artists in the future?

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# Dec 23, 2008 @ 11:18 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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72. IrishMetal writes:

Hey TOG, haven't seen you about much, I got confused a wee while back cuz ur avatar is very similar to FAN's. And yeah, hopefully we see some decent metal coming out of egypt, because due to the things they've gone through it'll probly be quite different to most modern metal.

# Dec 23, 2008 @ 11:36 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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73. Blindgreed1 writes:

Mornin Irish (or afternoon to you). After the apocolypse the duckbilled Platypuss will probably rule the earth. I'm banking on it. I have a platypuss shrine erected under ground and have already begun gene splicing expiraments. Muuuhahahahaha!!!

More importantly though, I just don't have the energy to reply to Korndogg or TimW either. Some folks you just can't reach.

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# Dec 23, 2008 @ 11:52 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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74. That_One_Guy writes:

Irish -- I changed my avatar this morning to avoid confusion, also because I got bored with it.. already.

# Dec 23, 2008 @ 11:53 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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75. IrishMetal writes:

f*** me, I don't want to start another religious argument, but I do want to say that fundamentalists are scary - I was directed to a forum earlier tonight by a friend, and holy ballf*** but I was just shouted out.

Blind - wonder if wiggles has ever wrestled a platypus?

# Dec 23, 2008 @ 1:09 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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76. That_One_Guy writes:

Irish -- I bet Wiggles has.. he molests crocs on a regular basis.

"I'm gonna tackle this croc and jam my thumb up its butthole!" -- South Park, lol.

# Dec 23, 2008 @ 1:14 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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77. IrishMetal writes:

Ah but the platypus is an infinitely more dangerous than a mere crocodile!!!! And Nile crocodiles are bigger than australian ones - wiggles isn't hardcore enough in my opinion hahaha

He needs to go on a dangerous animal molestation tour methinks...

# Dec 23, 2008 @ 1:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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78. That_One_Guy writes:

What, like sticking his thumbs up the buttholes of dangerous animals around the world? METAL! Lmao!

# Dec 23, 2008 @ 1:21 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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79. IrishMetal writes:

Indeed. I has to go out now with my girlfriend so I shall talk to you all 2moro, and if wiggles checks in on any threads let him no my ideda for him hahaha

Toodle doo

# Dec 23, 2008 @ 1:38 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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80. IrishMetal writes:

*idea

# Dec 23, 2008 @ 1:38 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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81. Blindgreed1 writes:

Wiggles couldn't handle the Platypuss!!!

# Dec 23, 2008 @ 5:29 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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82. psythe writes:

the hell with platyp***ies, if you want a real fight piss off a cassawary. them bastards are downright dangerous.

# Dec 23, 2008 @ 5:39 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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83. psythe writes:

and how do you spell that, anyway? cassuary? cassuwary? c***sary?

# Dec 23, 2008 @ 5:40 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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84. Blindgreed1 writes:

psythe: I don't speak russian, so I don't know what your talking about. lol.

# Dec 23, 2008 @ 5:44 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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85. BoltThrower writes:

That platypus has POISONED LEGS!! You can't fight POISONED LEGS! The best you can do is wait for duckbilled season..."You don't have to shoot him now, you can wait until you get him home..."

"NO, SHOOT HIM NOW, SHOOT HIM NOW!"

# Dec 23, 2008 @ 10:36 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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86. KORNDOGG writes:

To That_One_Guy- Im sure you had something to say to me...............And i bet it went something like this." Korn sucks, your an idiot cuz you listen to korn and because i believe a theory is a fact your an idiot!" And i believe Boltthrower just posted^^ something stupider or more ignorant than ive ever said, but since he as just as f***ed as you, its ok. Oh and probably because he doesnt listen to korn! Most on here are ignorant, some have good points. But none have had anything to say back worth a sh** besides the old "The man listens to korn, it astounds me he can type". Nice one.......

PS- Dont throw me in with TimW, sorry but im not a racist nazi. You may not see my side, but i definetly have more points than that idiot

# Dec 25, 2008 @ 1:40 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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87. bbristowe writes:

Yeah GO EGYPT. YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAH

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# Dec 25, 2008 @ 3:26 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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88. TimW writes:

KORNDOGG ...first off im not a rascist nazi, and it amazes me all the excuses i hear about the white man bringing the blackman down...why do you think we just created history for? Albeit it is a created history, Obama was never meant to Pres, it was the white mans way of saying here you fu%$ing go now stfu already about affirmitive blacktion.

The real rascists are the blacks...ever hear of Al Sharpton or the other nutjob that speaks with marbles in his mouth...these people you seem to raise up so high thinks it was ok to have those kids that allegedly raped a black girl that was a stripper whore to begin with and ruin there lives...i honestly do forget the state and college it happened at, but whatever.

And as far as Africa is concerned they had the same oppurtunities...if not much longer if you look into history then your typical white man to become productive and invent something. So i guess the pyramids mean nothing right? No, thats right...the whites built that...the first slaves in history were white people......wow...everyone forgets the blacks enslaved the whites first.....so now that we have proven history and show that the whites rised above there slavery and became productive and just let it go...how come the africans can do the same? Gee...take a wild guess....because they seriously are inferior and history which so obviously proves this theory is in front of all your faces.

# Dec 26, 2008 @ 5:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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89. Netromancer writes:

Let's be honest here. The difference between productive and inferior isnt strictly about race. People of all races have strived to make a better world. It's more about assumed culture. I say "assumed" because it's been created and proliferated by the media. People who are willing to sponge off the government or their fellow man instead of standing up and working to make a better life arent restricted to african-american. In the U.S. anyway, there is a tendency to glorify and glamorize these POS thug-wannabe, or POS white trash lifestyles. Through music, television, and even literature, this way of life is made out to look cool. And the great thing is, you don't have to work for it or even put any effort into being a better person for it. All you need to do is be an uncaring, selfish, useless, unemployed waste of life. Welcome to the fabulous life of a tick on the a$$ of society. "What's in it for me?" becomes the mantra. It's nothing but the embracing of a stereo-type to the degree that it becomes almost a parody of itself. When it's cooler to have gold rims over a college education, we have a problem.

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90. DeathInEye writes:

Out of curiosity, to what literature are you referring? I can see television and music, and I can even think of a few books that I feel may fit your view, but I'm curious as to what crossed your mind, Netromancer.

# Dec 26, 2008 @ 6:37 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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91. XWigglesX writes:

Africa didn't advance like Europe and Asia because the things that drive industry (metals) were not as easy to come by and the ideas of using them for weapons and building was not introduced in acient times like with the Romans for Europe or China for Asia. It has nothing to do with colour. Just the land around them.
Pffft those little duck wannabes are nothing on a pack of Dingos (yep, a whole pack) or a Saltwater Crocodile. Those things are huge.

# Dec 26, 2008 @ 6:41 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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92. XWigglesX writes:

Sure ancient Egypt was a powerful nation. But it was beaten down by more powerful and advanced Empires, such as Rome, Greece and Persia. Their armies of slaves with no armour couldn't stand a chance against something like a Roman legion.

# Dec 26, 2008 @ 6:48 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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93. TimW writes:

89. Netromancer...i agree with most of what yu say...especially about the glamoriztion of being an idiot and down right lazy citizen...but the college education i cant agree with.....most college kids go and get drunk, do girls gone wild videos, and listen to leftist professors give there personal hippie opinions on life, rather then teach the students what should actually be taught.

My wife left college after 2 years because she wanted to actually become a school teacher, which is admirable, buit was a waste of time on her part and she freely admits it was. Her reasonings for this are simple...she went to a college in North Carolina for the first year and the professor didnt teach...just spouted hippie bullsh** and didnt care whether it was helping her to be able to teach young kids...so she chose to give a shot one more year and tranfer her credits to a school back in connecticut...low and behold....different professor, same old indoctrination hippie leftist tree hugging bullsh** opinions and no real curriculam....now dont get me wrong...i love trees and they especially look nice when people chop thousands of them down to rot in the livingrooms of people to celebrate an unfounded holiday...but i digress.

So now all my wife has is 16,000 dollars in student loans and no real knowledge of being a school teacher......these college kids learn nothing and pay for the same sh** i learned in 12 years of regular school. Unless your going to be a doctor or some a$$ kissing upper mgt type that just follows the corporate angles, then sure drink for 4 years and get a degree....otherwise its a waste....My wife is proud that i took the money i was suposed to go to college on and bought a house and property and now have no mortgage worries because i didnt bother to listen to typical people who feel that college is so great.

# Dec 26, 2008 @ 6:49 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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94. DeathInEye writes:

Egyptians used copper (metal) based weaponry Wiggles, but I've never been clear as to whether or not they're classified as "Africans." I mean, they are geographically, but culturally they were their own or, eventually, more middle eastern.

# Dec 26, 2008 @ 6:50 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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95. TimW writes:

91. XWigglesX....you seem to forget that a Roman general was banging the queen of Egypt....but im sure you forgot that part of history.....so Egypt had plenty of Roman influence as well as acess to proper metals. I let you tell me who there names are just so i know ou did your research.

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96. XWigglesX writes:

I know they used copper. But that's as far as it went eh. Its pretty sad that a country with such a rich past is now the way it is.
It is Africa, but they people are Middle Eastern yes?

# Dec 26, 2008 @ 6:54 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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97. TimW writes:

Egypt is in Africa..so they are aficans whether they choose to believe it or not.

# Dec 26, 2008 @ 6:56 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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98. XWigglesX writes:

Yes, it when from surviving on its own to being taken over by empire after empire. Romans, Saladin, the French...

# Dec 26, 2008 @ 6:57 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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99. Netromancer writes:

Good friend I grew up with recently went through the same BS, to become, yes a teacher as well. Almost the same scenario. He decided to say screw it and become a carpenter. In all honestly he would make less as a teacher anyway.
While I see your point about college, I was thinking more of the absurdity of that style of thinking than the reality of the college experience. Probably would make more sense if I said "gold rims over a job with good benefits" ;)

# Dec 26, 2008 @ 7:00 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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100. TimW writes:

No worries, i got the point, i just hope others see it for what it is, and Carpentry was a good choice. It is always more usefull to build something or fix something with ones hands then to just be an opiniated college punk...lol....i am glad we can agree.

# Dec 26, 2008 @ 7:03 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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101. DeathInEye writes:

I'm not sure Wiggles, Egypt of today is far different from Egypt of yesteryear, obviously, and as you stated. Although, I think geneologists (is that the word?) have traced most human ancestry back to several original sects in central (I think) Africa, anyway. Research the "Human Genome Project".

# Dec 26, 2008 @ 7:07 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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102. XWigglesX writes:

Nothing wrong with being a little opinionated. I was raised to never back down. Whether it was with my views or sticking up for friends and family. You never back down, ever.

# Dec 26, 2008 @ 7:09 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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103. TimW writes:

"Human Genome Project". Is a farce and just fantasy to propagate equality. It is around the Iraq area between the Tigris and Euphrates river where life began.

# Dec 26, 2008 @ 7:17 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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104. XWigglesX writes:

Ah I'll have a search after work.
Africa is the home of humanity. At least that's what I have learnt.
TimW, so do you believe races are all very different and some better than others? And that whites are superior? That's the kind of feeling I get from your statments.

# Dec 26, 2008 @ 7:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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105. DeathInEye writes:

It totally depends TimW. I'm going to school for a B.A. in English and Creative Writing, and will hopefully be moving on to get an M.F.A. in Creating Writing, which will allow me to be one of those "leftist professors". While I agree that a professor should instruct and refrain from most personal opinion spouting, your wife could have become a part of a movement of new teachers with better methods of conveying information to students. As far as Netro's friend, if carpentry is what they want to do, I say go for it, but don't give up because of frustration.

# Dec 26, 2008 @ 7:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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106. TimW writes:

I dont go by the whole superiority complex. But what i do go by is simply achievments that are proveable and are a part of history. So basically many things in this world are made by certain groups of people more so then others. Thus proving that yes, some races have more to offer then others. Now that may piss off many, but the facts remain and are indisputable and cannot be questioned. Proof is proof and its all around you...trust me im not so proud of some of my fellow white people so dont think i dont hold my own race responsible for being retards either, however it is proveable within the confines of history and written evidence which groups provided a bit more intelligence then others.

# Dec 26, 2008 @ 7:28 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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107. TimW writes:

DeathInEye i didnt know my wife at the time to encourage her to stick it out, so as i do agree that it would be nice in a sense to start a new way of doing things and teaching the kids properly, it does not make financial sense to continue with something for the sake of a possibility.

# Dec 26, 2008 @ 7:40 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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108. XWigglesX writes:

I'd more say a society's complexity comes from the land, not the race. If Africa's climate was similar to Europe then things would grow better and thus more people would live healthier lives and then would be more willing to explore and experiment. To build up a society the people must not be sick and hungry.
I think that Western governments have failed Africa. Our leaders talk tough on people like Robert Mugabe and Rowanada andthe dozens of genocides that have occured but don't do sh** to stop it because there is nothing in it $$$ wise for them. The U.N is a paper tiger.

# Dec 26, 2008 @ 7:44 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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109. TimW writes:

Then go to where the food can grow...sitting around in dirt for thousands of years complaining your hungry doesnt do a whole lot to make a race look smart. Build a f***ing boat and go where you want...the whites did it so why couldnt they....and climate my ass....tell that to the eskimoes...you dont see potatoes growing or acres of corn fields do you? So whats the f***ing africans problem...oh yeah, there stupid...lets stop blaming the govt for everyones issues or problems...long before all these things or the UN was in place there were plenty of oppurtunities in the last few thousand years to figure something out. Making excuses for the mentally incompetant doesnt bode well for a race.

Oh and because you seem to love these savages so much.....the somalian answer to poverty is to become pirates and rob ships...lmfao....the pirate thing was done a few hundred years ago, that didnt work out so well as a form of employment...so they really need to catch up with the program here and act civilized instead of like f***ing criminals.

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110. DeathInEye writes:

I understand TimW, but, I don't believe in "too late" unless we're talking death. If she ever has the opportunity to pick it back up, I'd say let her at it! Might want to consider a Private College. They're a sh!tload more expensive, but smaller class size and as far as I have seen, better Professors.

However, they are becoming more popular, so the roles may be reversed by the time the opportunity arrives.

I may not agree with most of your ideas, but my side's ideas wouldn't be so dang intelligent without opposition!

# Dec 26, 2008 @ 8:01 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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111. TimW writes:

My wife is a manager in walgreens and her next step is Store Manger making 80,000 a year, so i doubt ill encourage her to go to college...its a womans world in retail and she makes way too much money to bother going back to school, her time off is better spent with family and our children. So she actually made the better financial choice not being a teacher, the kids down south here dont want to learn anything anyway and my daughter has to deal with waiting for the minority kid to catch up first before the rest of the class can move along...got to love the equality thing, my daughter doesnt get the education she deserves because we have to fair to the mentally challenged down here......i will be homeschooling her soon if the system doesnt change soon.

If all men were created equal...we would all have a mercedes in our driveways and everything would be the same.....how boring life would be.

# Dec 26, 2008 @ 8:14 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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112. XWigglesX writes:

Savages. Are you serious? Build a boat? If you are hungry can you be bothered doingf anything? No you can't.
Have you ever met a refugee from Africa? I guess you haven't otherwise I'm sure you'd be more sympathetic to them.
Mentality, well you seem to hold the stereotypical views and values that many people hate Americans for.
The U.N should be doing something about it, the U.N was formed with the idea to help out people in trouble and stop wars.
Eskimos live off the sea. How the f*** do you live off the sea if you live in the middle of the desert. You can't just "go to the food". I bet if they followed that idea and then when your town gets over-ran with hungry, poor people you'd start b****ing and say that they should all go home.

# Dec 26, 2008 @ 8:21 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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113. TimW writes:

112. XWigglesX are you f***ing serious? Africa is surrounded by water...fish abound in there waters....they have the most animals to feed on wandering there jungles. Africa is rich in resources such as diamonds and gemstones. You would think someone over there would be smart enough after thousands upon thousands of years to get off there asses and do something.

I do agree however about the UN.....thats the building the Muslims should have really hit with a plane....many of us would have clapped...it is a waste of money, time and space.

# Dec 26, 2008 @ 8:25 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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114. XWigglesX writes:

And you will notice, Africans living on the coasts are far better off than those in land locked countries like Congo. Yeah big deal, you can't build a house with diamonds, you can't build a water tank with them.
And what makes them savages? Is it because they don't speak English and are not white?

# Dec 26, 2008 @ 8:52 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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115. TimW writes:

114. XWigglesX, good lord man, if they were purple they would still be stupid. Just face facts they are inferior period....proof is in the pudding, and they have no pudding.

# Dec 26, 2008 @ 9:23 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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116. KORNDOGG writes:

TimW- Ill give you some credit, you have some very valid points, especially about those f***en college kids who spend mommy and daddys money to get drunk and party and end up having nothing to show for 4 wasted years. But i do think you are somewhat of a racist......there are just as lazy whites as blacks( or yellow or brown). Doesnt matter what color you are. Me personally do not like Obama, but not cuz hes black, just cuz of his f***ed up past. I feel he is as crooked as all the rest. Now yes, blacks are the cause of most gang shootings and inner city murders, wgich is bullsh**. But dont hate a whole race because of a f***ed up majority. And you are right, blacks are definetly more racist than whites. They always feel we owe them something. Dont get me wrong, slavery was bullsh**, but that was our ancestors( not us)!!!!!!!!!!!!

# Dec 26, 2008 @ 9:32 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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117. DeathInEye writes:

"Proof is in the pudding, and they have no pudding." No pudding, therefore no proof they are savages. But I'm done arguing like the others. You're not even open to possibility of humility.

# Dec 26, 2008 @ 9:33 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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118. KORNDOGG writes:

Heres the answer- Never help those who arent willing to help themselves!

Wow, was it really that hard.

# Dec 26, 2008 @ 9:38 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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119. XWigglesX writes:

If your mum was starving, so hungry she was struggling to even speak would you want to help or would you just let her rot?
Call me a bleeding heart if you want I don't give a f***. I feel sorry for those people, life is hard enough as it is without having to fight for a tiny cup of dirty water. They need our help and we should be giviong it to them instead of hiding behind our big tvs and computer screens saying how things should be done.

# Dec 26, 2008 @ 9:44 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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120. KORNDOGG writes:

I agree they need help! But with their corrupt f***ing government, what is anybody gonna do? And by the way, ive worked hard for everything ive got, including my big tv! I feel sorry for the homeless guy on the street to, but when he just wants handouts and isnt willing to apply at f***ing mcdonalds then f*** EM!

# Dec 26, 2008 @ 10:12 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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121. DeathInEye writes:

Totally with ya Wiggles. I help out whenever, however I can. Although I tend to volunteer around here just because I can't help but what wonder where the money I donate goes sometimes.

# Dec 26, 2008 @ 10:12 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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122. TimW writes:

Charity begins at home.........and this guy has it correct.

KORNDOGG writes:
Heres the answer- Never help those who arent willing to help themselves!

Wow, was it really that hard.

# Dec 26, 2008 @ 10:16 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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123. IrishMetal writes:

TimW writes: Wow, was it really that hard.

That's what she said.

But seriously, just no - you are making everyone in this forum stupider just by posting your racist sh** here. Why is callousness and not helping people a good thing? Where are your basic morals and empathy? Just because you worked hard for your stuff KORNDOGG doesnt mean that africans don't work much harder you dipsh**, but they don't have the opportunity to buy big tv's you wankbag.
Do you think that children sh**ting themselves to death is in any way a fair thing to be happening?

Seriously, just no, your logic is all wrong and I don't have the strength of mind after reading your claims to refute them.

Btw - i know stupider isn't a word, but that's what you brought me down to.

# Dec 26, 2008 @ 11:00 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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124. AlliedFront676 writes:

Why dont you morons Tim racist W and KoRNDOg stick to discussing music, and leave politics and racial ideology alone. Because the only way you can learn about other cultures and people is to read a book or travel. STOP getting your information from WHITE NATIONALISTs because its just PROPAGANDA to make you look and seem dumber then you allready are.

# Dec 26, 2008 @ 11:15 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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125. TimW writes:

123. IrishMetal, your statements are absurd....the people or parents should be shot and executed for even having kids they cant feed...its not like they didnt know they couldnt feed them to begin with. And cut out all that "im calling you a rascist bullsh**" just because we prefer to not help idiots. I have a wife and 2 children that i care very deeply about, if my family members need something, i earn it even in this sh**ty economy. I want to see our own in this country taken care of first and foremost, then if we can lend a hand elswhere then so be it......but not until then.

# Dec 26, 2008 @ 11:19 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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126. TimW writes:

Whatever 124. AlliedFront676.....i dont need to travel to another country to know it sucks and the people are animals....we have our own animals in this country to deal with, so why go elswhere to another zoo?

# Dec 26, 2008 @ 11:21 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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127. XWigglesX writes:

So people from other countries are animals. All Americans are inbred, ignorant, war mongering backwater hillbillies who have no idea how to appreciate what they have. How's that sound? See I can think just like you if I want to.

# Dec 26, 2008 @ 11:58 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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128. suck it writes:

Get a life wiggles...........people are entitled to there opinion. You obviously have no clue what your saying. You know damn well thats not what he meant and your just reaching here. Give it a break.

# Dec 27, 2008 @ 1:07 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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129. AlliedFront676 writes:

Its called IP logged you idiot^ or should i say TIMW f***ing moron.

# Dec 27, 2008 @ 1:58 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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130. XWigglesX writes:

Aww did that one cut a little deep?

# Dec 27, 2008 @ 2:45 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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131. bbristowe writes:

As far as I can see it. Timw has a good point. It would just be less harsh on those with kinder spirits if you didn't come on here preaching all this bs. Life sucks, we know, especially during these trying times. But picking on somebody else isn't any better than what the Nazis did. They blamed the Jews for all of their problems. Now you are blaming every other race for your own problems. I get it, you work for what you need. But coming on here spewing racist threats and insult is just retarded. Wiggles may be out of line calling all Americans inbread yadayada. But thats exactly what your post come off as.

"Charity begins at home.........and this guy has it correct.

KORNDOGG writes:
Heres the answer- Never help those who arent willing to help themselves! "

You think they aren't willing to help themselves? They don't even have the resources to begin to help themselves. sh** like that bro. Life ain't easy. You think it's any easier for people in hard parts of the world? I don't wanna sound like a d***. But people in Africa can't even FATHOM the idea of being able to afford a home and relaxing. Can you imagine what it's like not to have it easy? You think your life is rough because you can't hire enough people to work in a factory. Where the f*** are your senses man? Just because you can afford to have a family doesn't mean others should be denied the right to have their own. Think about something besides your own selfish needs. What makes you any better than those who work just as much as you, if not more to make it through the night?

# Dec 27, 2008 @ 4:03 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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132. bbristowe writes:

I think most people are missing the point. Their aren't any races. Their are HUMANS. Not races. Races are just diversity amongst Homo Sapiens. Nothing more. Are you going to discriminate amongst monkeys and apes. Because one is smaller than the other, making them inferior? No, thats f***ing ridiculous. They are both f***ing primates living in the same f***ing jungle. Same f***ing humans living on the same f***ing earth. No difference. When mankind gets that through their head, we will finally move forward as a species. Humans have held onto their same moral beliefs and have always stepped on everyone else to rise to the top. We've become self appointed dictators to uphold the status quo. It's about time mankind woke up and started to smell the f***ing roses. Your planet and all of your material items are in jeopardy. That's great TimW. You don't have a mortage. But WHAT the f*** is that going to matter in 30 years. Nothing. But what if you stopped blaming others for their own problems and realize that we are the ones who caused the problems? But WE I mean HUMANS not whites. Who gives a sh** if they have diamonds. Do you realize, that diamonds are f***ing worthless? They're compressed coal? They keep diamonds locked up in a f***ing vault, creating scarcity of this precious material so they can make a 300% profit on a f***ing rock. Get your views right.

# Dec 27, 2008 @ 4:24 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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133. XWigglesX writes:

Dude I wasn't actually serious with post 127. Just trying to get through to this douche on his level. Because it doesn't seem like any other way will help it sink in.
Isn't the difference between races only like tiny percentage? f***.

# Dec 27, 2008 @ 4:55 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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134. TimW writes:

If you guys enjoy your property values going down because of ignorant dirty people, regardless of color....thats on you. People have the free will to get off there asses and try, whether you think they have the tools or not...its all about ability...im tired of the sob stories, and its you guys who dont get it...hard work gets you what you want period...not sitting on a street corner waiting for a handout. Id be the first person to help my neighboor if they were in trouble, and yes i would give them a loaf of bread to feed there kids to help them get by...the point being is a refuse to do it for people who just expect it and waste oxygen i could be breathing.

# Dec 27, 2008 @ 1:16 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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135. IrishMetal writes:

Yes people sitting on a corner waiting for a hand out shuld' get it in my opinion.

But u started off about the africans saying they hadn't evolved enough. TimW you keep changing ur arguments. I was making a statement about ur view on africans - they are poor subsistence farmers, who have to work as hard as possible just to scratch a living. And they have children for various socio economic reasons. And i didn't say children starving to death, i said sh**ting themselves to death through horrible diseases, that abound in their climate.

Eskimo's don't have any diseases, because of the cold. I bring this up because u say climate is no deciding factor. It isn't but it does have a large impact on possible development.

But yeah, homeless people cud be a lot more proactive, in developed countries. I just really dislike how u speak about undeveloped countries man. In developed countries hard work will get you what u want, but elsewhere u have to work much much harder just to live

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# Dec 27, 2008 @ 3:16 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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136. IrishMetal writes:

first sentence - *shuldn't

forgive my spelling, im typing shorthand in the dark

# Dec 27, 2008 @ 3:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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137. BoltThrower writes:

Egyptian metal platypus!!!

That deaf dumb and blind platypus can really play a mean guitar!

# Dec 27, 2008 @ 7:07 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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138. BoltThrower writes:

WTF man, I think I just named my band!

EGYPTIAN METAL PLATYPUS

# Dec 27, 2008 @ 7:10 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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139. TimW writes:

135. IrishMetal, i have to constantly change my argument, because im getting it from all sides and have to continually explain the easy and obvious to people who cant understand simplicity. Work hard....period...end of discussion.....under developed countries are an excuse....it is proof that not all men are created equal because they do not have the capacity to rise above there situations.

Listening to heavy metal you should know this already, that no matter where you come from and if you work hard you can succeed no matter the odds...but when no effort at all is attempted then i feel sorry for no man. Show me effort first, then ill get behind and help you push the uphill battle.

# Dec 27, 2008 @ 8:28 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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140. Cynic writes:

Not to interrupt TimW's rascist propaganda, but have either TimW or KORNDOGG even been to university?

Cuz let me tell you, it's one thing to sit on your computer and spout off about kids getting drunk and "leftist professors", and another to spend 3-4 years wading through an insane workload. Most of my friends drink like fish on a Saturday, but don't leave the library throughout the week. And sure, if your doing a degree in Womens Studies you can expect radical views - but you'd be an idiot not to understand why. When you're knee deep in math projects, leftist views will be the last thing you'd be complaining about.

Now Playing: At The Gates - "Raped By The Light of Christ"

# Dec 27, 2008 @ 8:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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141. DeathInEye writes:

To be fair to TimW, which is excruciatingly hard, students where I am are divided into two groups (I'm actually being general) Cynic: those who prefer getting wasted with average grades and those who prefer good grades with the occassional social gathering which may or may not have alcohol. Remember, I'm being very broad.

# Dec 27, 2008 @ 9:12 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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142. TimW writes:

DeathInEye Thanks for being fair.....at least you realize the truth, and granted there are many spread out at different colleges that feel you should work and study hard to get your monies worth...however its painfully obvious they are not in the majority.

# Dec 27, 2008 @ 10:29 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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143. Cynic writes:

So what, you go round polling at colleges in America? Or is it just watch Fox News?

Also, the fact that you make generalizations of whole countries of people makes you an idiot. I don't even know why I'm replying though, you pretend like half the posts in this threads responding to your hate don't exist.

# Dec 27, 2008 @ 10:54 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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144. DeathInEye writes:

I just try to be honest, logical, and humble TimW. I wouldn't thank me. I think some of your views are among the most grotesque I've ever read. I will concede that there is a possibility that those living in impoverished conditions are differently evolutionized than those living in substantially wealthier nations. That's the basic theory behind evolution: different conditions (which I might add can be influeced by human interaction such as war, slavery, the concept of inferiority), different evolutions. If you raise a child as a dog, said child will mentally be a dog. However, this discussion and the Mustaine Coffee thread are about whether or not the substantially wealthier nations should aid the impoverished nations in catching up. And your answer to that repulses me.

# Dec 27, 2008 @ 10:56 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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145. DeathInEye writes:

By the way Cynic, was any of that directed at me? I'll gladly expand any point. I was merely trying to say that this one time, TimW's point might not be 100% unfounded. =P

# Dec 27, 2008 @ 11:07 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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146. Cynic writes:

Well that's not really evolution, societal "evolution" maybe but not true biological evolution which takes millennia. In any case, no amount of difference in "races" (see bbristowe post 132) could qualify for any reasonable grounds for racism or rejection of other people. I agree DeathInEye, TimW has the most ignorant views on human rights I've ever read.

# Dec 27, 2008 @ 11:09 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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147. Cynic writes:

Nope none of it, I have similar experiences with University but to me how much you drink doesn't correlate to a lack of work. Maybe I just have a really balanced set of friends, but for me TimW is complaining about the very ideology he's praising - you work hard and you're rewarded.

# Dec 27, 2008 @ 11:12 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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148. KORNDOGG writes:

Cynic- LOL, you cant be serious. I will only give credit where credit is due. Have i been to college? The answer is no. Im making damn good money without having to pay off student loans for the rest of my life. However i have many of friends that have been to college, or are in college at the moment. And from what i know and have seen, most college kids are sucking on moms tit, milking it for all its worth and partying their 4 years away, only to come out with some bullsh** degree in computers or some other waste of time career not making great money. Now not all, i said most. Their are some very successful college students who have turned out to make lots of money, doctors, lawyers, ect. But its the people out in the field, busting their asses everyday in the mills, factorys, plants, utilitys, construction is where i give credit! Not the f***ing hippie in college working at best buy or applebees doing notthing cuz " they just dont know what they wanna be when they grow up"! I make more money with only a high school diploma than any one i know who has been through college. I work 6 days a week, 24 hours a day on call! So yeah id say i do my part in society!

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 1:47 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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149. DeathInEye writes:

"Only to come out with some bullsh** degree in computers" he TYPES on an INTERNET FORUM! Lmao, Sorry, thought that needed reiteration, it was so ironically hilarious.

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 3:15 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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150. TimW writes:

Good job Korndogg....i enjoy all the college kids waiting on me in the restaraunts thinking they will be someone some day...while i enjoy time with my family eating and enjoying life the way it was meant to be....not drunk off my a$$ sucking of mommies teets.....lmfao....and as for the people i repulse...its called jealousy....and dont try and refuse it, because life is very simple and not as hard as people make it out to be.......factory and mill workers are what keep this society going, not some snooty hippie and his alcoholic buddies.

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 3:47 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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151. KORNDOGG writes:

Yeah that was funny, but tell me this DeathInEye. How much does somebody make working on or for a website now? Or even with computers at all? My friend is a computer tech and makes 13 dollars an hour........sad! So laugh it up but you know im right. The problem lies with the fact that most people go into college wanting to work with computers only to not make sh** for cash or not find a job at all.

Once again, nice comeback, but it failed miserably. So heres an idea, come up with something smart or worth a sh**. Or just keep your not so ironic comments to yourself. No one can prove me wrong about this. But give it a try

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 3:52 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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152. XWigglesX writes:

The dude who lives next door to me works as a computer tech at a school near me. He makes like $20 an hour. And don't forget that $20 is worth more here than in your country.

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 4:20 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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153. IrishMetal writes:

One problem with your views KORNDOGG and TimW is that those people working so hard are doing it either to make money for themselves so they can live well, which is what those college wasters are doing because their parents already worked hard enough to support them.

Whats the point of having money if you won't spend it? Your idealology is that people should work hard to do/have what they want, yet you complain that people are doing just that. Richer families can send their kids to college in the hope that they get a degree which does add to job prospects in general.

You would have everyone working lowish pay jobs rather than go to university? How would any medical advances be made? Believe it or not, a university used to be a place for a meeting of minds, where ideas were taught and knowledge exchanged and brought together for the betterment of mankind. Granted that has changed a lot with frat boys and wasters, but there are those who go to learn and help. And that takes "leftist" teachings. Or do you not understand that?

So get a clue, most of our modern medical abilities are due to universities, as is most technology. Believe what you want, but see reason. You say jealousy? Jealous of what? Your utter contempt for the very thing you endorse in a round about way? Your complete lack of empathy towards other human beings?

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 4:30 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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154. IrishMetal writes:

If everyone worked in the primary and secondary sectors we would have a hugely backwards economy. You know why america is considered so advanced? Because it has a huge tertiary and quaternary workforce. Countries with largely primary and secondary workforces are considered undeveloped or constricted. What you are describing does not work in this day and age.

You say you give props to the people working hard in those sectors... Again TimW and KORNDOGG I would have you look at any developing country. The people are not at fault. The global market is killing them. They are being essentially forced to farm whatever speciality crop they have, or mine whatever gems or ores they have, because that is the only thing they have. What technology can they offer us? Copyrights, patents etc stop them from building cheaper versions of whatever they need.

But f*** this, I know you won't listen to my points, or you'll just pick out the ones you feel like answering. I reiterate - working hard does not automatically make good things happen

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 4:38 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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155. DeathInEye writes:

Computer Technician, as in repair, isn't really where the money is in computers at the moment unless your designing them, in which case you'd also be considered a Computer Programmer and Networker, (I'm talking team leader, usually there are entire groups of Programmers and Networkers working on projects) which is also where the dough really begins to roll in. Graphic Design is a huge field also but its pay range varies, as do all computer related jobs.

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 4:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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156. TimW writes:

Hey irish, let me quote you so you realize you just answered your own question "Believe it or not, a university used to be a place for a meeting of minds, where ideas were taught and knowledge exchanged and brought together for the betterment of mankind."

So with that said, in no way shape or form was that a leftist concept, what you descibe in your quotes are from how a conservative intellectual with actual goals would do....but because the colleges are full of the do any damn thing you want attitude because you have the right bullsh**, is exactly is what is hindering progress.

Unfortunatly making sacrifices and having conservative goals is the harder choice, thats why most choose the latter and decide to take the easier leftist route....when someone disagrees with there gayness, blackness, druginess, alcoholism or other depraved behavior which isnt in the norm....people use that call you a bigot rascist or intolerant.

Ive found the attacks on christmas recently, with the atheist viewpoints and the trampling of a human being in Wal-Mart this christmas to be a disgusting look into what happens when people are lazy and just want the latest thing to appease there stupid little brains.

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 5:05 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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157. Fuck_A_Name writes:

No money in computers? who gives a f***? if it wasnt for some guy deciding he wanted to become a programmer, you wouldnt have this site to talk about how worthless becoming a programmer is. deathbringer(his account name) designed this site for metalheads to talk about whatever they wanted concerning topics like this. so eat a d*** retard.

Once again, back to the money issue. From what i read, going to college is worthless, because more often than not, you can make more money in service industry or retail or small businesses whatever. SO? If it wasnt for people going to college, HD tv's wouldnt exist. Cars wouldnt ever have been designed any more complicated than the model t. The atom bomb would have never been dropped on japan, because nobody had taken college courses to understand basic physics and adapt einstein's theory for practical use. And then we wouldnt have nucleur energy. Or solar energy. Sure, the guys who build the house by hand get the sh** end of the stick monetarily, bu the guy who has the mathematical and technical know-how to design the house and express a complex 3 dimensional figure on a piece of paper so that laymen can comprehend the process to translate that picture into a real house, that guy went to college, and if he didnt, we would al live in log cabins. Thank you architects and the guy who invented calculus. And if you dont know the name of the guy who invented that bit of higher mathematics, i can understand your loathing of universities, because high school alone must have been hell considering you didnt learn anything there.

Point: It's not about money, it's about gettin sh** done for the rest of the human race. either contribute to the advancement of the human species, or youre just a waste of air.

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 5:24 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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158. KORNDOGG writes:

First off IrishMetal, you are correct about if it wasnt for college we wouldnt have sh**, that is true. But those people who have changed the world as we know it are few and far between. And f***_A_Name, who you described is probably 2% of people in universitys. Ill say this, i give anyone who goes to college to change the world or make are species great props, we need advancements in medical research so maybe we can fight cancer or whatever the case may be. Good for them. And i hope they do. But the other 95% of rich hippies who do it because their parents went to college and paved their way can get f***ED. Drink it up frat boys, and drink it up girls gone wild sluts. Your all making your parents proud!
But IrishMetal, you are wrong about the people out everyday busting their a$$ doesnt make a country strong, a stronger workforce makes a stronger country. Where would we be without the men and women that work in steel mills or power plants. I work for a natural gas and electric company. So i know if it wasnt for the people out in the field, or in the generating stations. It would do us no good to even have gas or electric. Same with small factorys or auto industries. Police officers, fire depts. Even the f***ing army, navy airforce, ect. Without the people who said I dont need college. We would not have sh**!!!!! I will say you have some good points, but think before you type.

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# Dec 28, 2008 @ 6:49 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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160. IrishMetal writes:

KORNDOGG, i never said that a stronger workforce doesn't make a stronger economy. I said a largely secondary and primary workforce is bad by itself, you need the quaternary and tertiary parts to be large as well for a country to advance.

I think you just misinterpreted what i said. The primary and secondary sectors are important, hell I'm a farmers son, and work on the farm when I'm home, so I know as well as any the short shrift they get. But I also know how much easier it has become due to advances in farming technology and genetic engineering and fertilizer development, all of which came from the quaternary sector, paid for largely by tertiary sector taxes.

Thanks for admitting I have some good points, and you have some too, if morals weren't applied to the situation. A few times I have taken your position in the past, just to play devils advocate to incredibly moral people, and found their reaction funny.

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 7:04 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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161. IrishMetal writes:

And of course we wouldn't have anything without basic things like power etc, but now that we do, and have refined the process fairly well, it takes a back seat to other researches. Although energy issues are back on the agenda...

And one more thing, the way global trade has been set up, is to limit developing nations as much as it is possible, so the more powerful countries can hold their monopolies. But I think everyone knows that. But this affects development hugely, and really doesn't allow for much world change, until things break down, as is happening at the moment. Who knows what will happen in the next few years...

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 7:09 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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162. KORNDOGG writes:

LOL! Im sure i piss off some people on here. All in good fun. And i do understand what your saying a little more with the last post. If it wasnt for the people putting effort into advances, our lives and jobs would be much harder.

Agreed!

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163. bbristowe writes:

Well my last posts I made I made pretty drunk and just said whatever came to my mind. And to be 100% honest, I just got back from work and was too lazy to read the last 4-5 posts. But a few things I did pick up on were KORNDOGG and TimW's views on mill workers etc and the negativity towards computers and technology. The fact is, "your kind" are almost a dieing breed. Every single day, life in the west is becoming more and more automated and inevitably ignorant. With advancement in technology and the like you won't have to be cutting lumber or bending sheet metal all day.

"Ive found the attacks on christmas recently, with the atheist viewpoints and the trampling of a human being in Wal-Mart this christmas to be a disgusting look into what happens when people are lazy and just want the latest thing to appease there stupid little brains."

I don't really understand how this consults atheism as it does the overall sickness of society.

"Even the f***ing army, navy airforce, ect."

Their wouldn't be the need for an army if people didn't act/think the same way you do. Your preaching how hard you work and such, but have you ever experienced like in another country, or anything remotely close?

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 7:12 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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164. bbristowe writes:

As far as the energy crisis we have no one to blame but ourselves. We ruined it during the industrial revolution and assumed we've found some renewable resource which we would have infinite of for all time. WRONG. Now we are paying for it with global climate shift and rising waters. But I'll save that for another savvy thread.

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 7:16 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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165. Cynic writes:

Wow, the foul stench of hypocracy has hit this thread hard and fast. TimW and KORNDOGG were once riding the "Work hard and you'll reap the benefits" ideology, but when things suit like the toss of a coin they decide to praise agricultural laymen and whine incessantly about kids riding off their rich parents!!

Secondly, I just finished a degree in Computer Science, i.e. programming. Maybe if you did a diploma in fixing computers or something then the money would be average, but programming jobs pay well if you get a great marks.

In fact, a 2006 Money magazine survey found that Software Engineering was the best job in America.

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166. Cynic writes:

*hypocrisy

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 7:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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167. TimW writes:

First....Einstein is a fraud, it has already been proven he stole other peoples patents and ideas. Doesnt mean he wasnt intelligent but some of the things he says he did first...he didnt and he worked in a patent office before he became famous and stole the ideas out from under people...look it up...it was even on the History chennel this past year.

Now as far as busting on the laborers....technology is the reason why we have such an obese and lazy population. Look at the Amish people, now granted i enjoy my television and my cars and being able to talk on the phone. However we need to take a step back sometimes and realize what we are doing to ourselves with this so called wonderful technology. The Amish are very family oriented and crime doesnt exist in there communities.....when is the last tiome you heard of someone being trampled by hordes of Amish people looking for there new tv....no it was the monkey animals...and oh i do insist you try the rascism bullsh** with me on this one, because if any of you looked at the pictures from the incident....the people all looked very familiar like i was looking at a zimbabwe family tree, on top of the fact they hindered the paramedics from getting the attention the poor guy needed....where was Al Sharpton when his own people killed an African man for the sake of getting something on sale? Still love your tecnological advances so much?

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 7:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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168. KORNDOGG writes:

" There wouldnt be the need for an army if people didnt act/think the same way you do"

Is that a serious comment? That is probably the most riduculous and ignorant post ive ever read on here. Man im sure glad you know what your talking about. How bout you put the drugs down you f***ing idiot. Because i feel that most kids go to college to party and waste parents money, and i believe that working your a$$ off deserves far more credit than hippies in school. That is the reason we need a army? Not only do you sound ignorant, but it also makes no sense.

Thanks for ranking in the top retarded things ive ever read on here. Classic bbristowe!

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 7:46 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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169. KORNDOGG writes:

And because your an idiot ill explain the reason i brought up the army- If it wasnt for the fact that they are willing to fight and even die for the greatest nation, instead of going to school0 to get drunk and party. We would be in alot of trouble. Yes, most of them go to school on the side, which i believe is a good thing if they are bettering themselves. Show some respect you moron! But your probably one of the f***ed up people who believe America is bad, and our army are killers right? Mr world f***ing peace. f*** YOU

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 7:49 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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170. TimW writes:

"In fact, a 2006 Money magazine survey found that Software Engineering was the best job in America."

Another dumb statement, yeah the economy is so great right now lets look at a 2006 magazine from a survey probably taken in 2005....way to go there college boy!...lmfao!

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 7:53 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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171. IrishMetal writes:

TimW, your argument hinges on what people want for themselves. You say the Amish are happy people, and maybe they are, but from what I hear there is a lot of mysogyny (sp?) and some child abuse, just beatings like but still. Yet you say when you work hard for things you want, ie your big screen TV, it makes no sense.

Pick a side, do you want technology or not? The Amish are so family oriented because they are strange people, no matter what your point of view is, people who live the way they do have to be a little different. Much like mormons. The south park episode of mormons actually portrayed them nearly perfectly if you have seen it. They believe in fairly ridiculous things for their lore, yet they have great family ethics.

And how can you say monkey people if you don't believe in evolution? Or do you actually believe that they are a completely different form of life, even though they can pro-create with us? Though I suppose that would explain a lot.

You say technology is a bad thing because it makes people fat? That has to be one of the stupidest things you have said. People get fat because they are f***in lazy, no other reason.

And stop harping on about Al f***ing Sharpton. LOOK AT THE KKK. f*** me with a stick because it would at least hurt my brain less than what you spout.

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172. Cynic writes:

It must be great to be so ignorant as to wipe away points like that. You two plainly ignore most of what's said in this thread then set up strawmen arguments to knock down - congrats. Why would you think SE would plummet off the scale in a recession while everything stays in place? You think lack of stress, flexible work hours etc just turn upside down in a matter of few years? In a growing industry?

Einstein was a fraud? Lol. Even if all but one of the things he's famous for were stolen he'd still have the remembered as a genius. Neither of you believe in evolution yet you both parade around like you're the all seeing eye, that's the funny part.

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 8:13 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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173. TimW writes:

First off the KKK are idiots, so lets get that straight. Not enjoying the company of ignorant savages doesnt make me a member, sorry to disappoint you. I can spell correctly and i dont talk with marbles in my mouth. And yes Al Sharpton should have came out and yelled at his people for trampling over one of there own...it was a sick display of greed and it was disgusting a man had to lose his life over it.

And as far as making up my mind, if you cared to really read what im saying, you would understand that im trying to convey a bit of moderation. I see f***ing 11 yr olds with cell phones glued to there ears, not what i will do to my children or allow to have at such an age.

I bring up the Amish[in which you call weird] is because they show and can teach us how to be more productive and family oriented.....so being family oriented is a bad thing? Apparently according to you it is. My mother and father werent the very touchy feely type, so when my son or daughter wants a hug or needs attention....i give it, rather then let the television be there babysitter.

All im saying truly is that if we live are lives only for the sake of technology, it will make us lazy, and yes technology does make us fat and lazy because the parents allow this tech to rule there lives and have no real interaction.

Now sit back relax and look a little deeper about all the points i presented without resorting to name calling and calling me a bigot because i feel animals shouldnt be trampling over others for the sake of a cheap television...use your heads please.

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 8:16 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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174. IrishMetal writes:

Never once called you a bigot. Perhaps inferred it, but then again it could be true.

Technology makes us able to make ourselves fat and lazy, its all a matter of human choice. If you don't want to be fat, then do something. That simple. If people don't have the strength of will or mind to do that then in my eyes they fail anyway.

I didn't say being family oriented is a bad thing, I did say it is weird and I stick by it. Although it may just be me. None of my friends have families that are like "we must do everything together". My own family work together well, but we don't do everything together. We have communal meals etc but that is about it.

And I'm sure you'll find stories of white people in incidents like that wal mart one. Its a matter of selective views.

And im glad you said that the parents allow technology to rule kids lives. This is true in part. They should teach their children some restraint and instill some values ie keeping fit etc. But technology is impersonal. Problems arise in what people do with it.

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 8:30 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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175. IrishMetal writes:

And I didn't say i thought you were in the KKK, I was just saying that both sides have their extremists

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 8:31 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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176. TimW writes:

"That simple. If people don't have the strength of will or mind to do that then in my eyes they fail anyway."

Thank you for proving my theory that not all men are created equal and are inferior to others.

That statement you said made me applaud and realize you understand more then even you give yourself credit for....strenght and will of mind....yes, please go on.

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 8:37 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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177. Fuck_A_Name writes:

"That simple. If people don't have the strength of will or mind to do that then in my eyes they fail anyway."

Thank you for proving my theory that not all men are created equal and are inferior to others.

That statement you said made me applaud and realize you understand more then even you give yourself credit for....strenght and will of mind....yes, please go on.

Retard. All men are created equal. It's our choices and our upbringing that define how inferior or superior to others we become. In fact, his statement doesnt even go along with your "theory"

He speaks about the human will and our ability to choose what actions we take. You speak about your supposition that some races are born retarted. How the two points correlate, except maybe in complete oppositon, eludes me.

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 8:50 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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178. IrishMetal writes:

Ah but I disagree, all people are born with equal rights. I don't believe in original sin etc, I think people are born equal and shouldn't be judged until we see where they are aiming for in life. There are sh**stains in society that live on welfare and never want to get jobs or do so on the black economy and still claim welfare.
I believe that people are born with potential, but a lot choose not to utilise it. I agree that there are many drains on the economy, but not just black people. I know that people have different mental strengths, and events have different effects on them. You seem to be focusing on certain groups far too much.
I have a real resentment for people who are fat, unless it really is a medical condition. They let themselves get like that, then b**** about their health problems. The same applies to people who sue at the slightest chance they can get. f***in sort your own problems out IF YOU CAN.
But that does not mean i agree with your point of view that aid shouldn't be sent to poor developing countries. Without opportunities to advance we will never know if they will be good or not. But when people are dying for no good reason, there is something hugely wrong.
I don't like people who don't work to better themselves. You seem to have a real thing against black people. I think that any society will have its wasters and absolute d***s who do nothing to contribute. And I don't like it.

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 8:56 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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179. TimW writes:

"All men are created equal. It's our choices and our upbringing that define how inferior or superior to others we become."

Thanks for proving my point on inferior or superior...so obviously there is such a thing.

So calling people rascist or bigots isnt a very true statement.....because as you just said there are very inferior people in this world as stated by yourself......thus the need to weed out the difference.

Cream rises to the top and seperates itself from the milk, so as nature does so should people then.

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 8:58 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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180. IrishMetal writes:

But cream and milk in warm weather both curdle. A nice analogy I grant.

It depends on the situation completely.

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 9:04 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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181. IrishMetal writes:

And in some situations we may be superior, ie on an intellectual plain, while gang members would likely be superior in a world with no morals.

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 9:05 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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182. TimW writes:

178. IrishMetal, so when the white man populated America, did they sit around and wait and cry that the King in England was being unfair and take handouts? There was very limited technology back then and many of them died on the ride over here. But they made it through somehow and thrived and made this country what it is today.

Unfirtunatly the country is going down the tubes because we dont continue to do or believe what we originally came here for, and yes i pick on blacks because they whine, cry, complain sit around and hope for the best. Look at New Orleans...did you really watch the news coverage? They sat and waited instead of helping EACH OTHER, then they elect the same balck Mayor that didnt do anything to help his own people......and what else did the blacks do instead of helping the drowning elderly....well wees had to go lootin for sh** yo, whys i be having to hep peeps and sh** yo.

So if you really still think that any faith in these people are founded, then so be it, but when a reverend of a church preaches politics and says godamn america to its black association, it doesnt really make me feel to proud or want to feel sorry for the people who in one hand hates the white man but expects a handout from me.

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 9:08 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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183. Fuck_A_Name writes:

^REALLY? Are you f***in retarted? the entire time, you post saying an entire race is inferior, which would suggest some sort of pre-natal derision that made them all that way.

Bu then now you agree with the statement that experiences create people to be either inferior or superior to each other.

COMPLETELY OPPOSITIONAL ARGUMENTS.

Not to mention that noone said there was no such thing as inferior or superior, only that your defined paramaters of how they are applied are wrong. I agree that some PEOPLE are better than others because they rise to showcase their own potential as individuals or help the world innocuously overall, but that has nothing to do with race. I would say that the black man jimi hendrix, an innovator of guitar wizardry, was a far better man than the white NAthan Gale, who shot Dimebag darell in the chest.

So you ARE a racist, and a bigot, because you are irrationally biased against an entire race or group of people. It is a very true statement.

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 9:11 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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184. KORNDOGG writes:

I have to give IrishMetal props for posts 180 and 181. Very true.

TimW has great points too! But hey TimW, i still think you are somewhat of a racist. Sorry man. But f*** it, if you dont like a certain race, thats your own opinion which you are allowd to have.

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 9:13 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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185. XWigglesX writes:

TimW why do you believe that non-whites are savages?

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 9:15 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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186. IrishMetal writes:

They had limited technology, but huge experience in setting up colonies, and they travelled with enough stuff to set up well. If people died, then more for the rest of them. So yeah, they wouldn't need handouts.

And yes, i see your point about the people in NO but that doesn't mean the entire race is f***ed up.
I imagine if it had of been white people a lot of the same would have happened. So you cannot judge just by that. And like it or not they were americans and their houses had been destroyed, possible shock... while the government sat on its hands.

I believe they did a study in a very christian town along those very lines - stood the police down for an entire day and let it be known that they would not respond to anything. There were robberies, burglaries and assaults in a town with little to no crime on any other day. Human nature, coupled with disasters brings out the worst in people.

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 9:20 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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187. Cynic writes:

I'm glad we are edging towards the fact TimW is an ignorant rascist who is far past reason. Here I'll give you the blueprint of his next post - *Ignore all previous posts* - *spew forth hate*.

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 9:29 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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188. TimW writes:

However there are way too many documented results of certain types of people that cant use logic but rather violence and robbery as some sort of way to act out.

Examples, some of which we touched on already.......LA riots for one.....getting p***ed because an admitted alcoholic crackhead was driving at speeds over 100 miles per hour, which could have killed innocent people[at least OJ was smart enough to drive the speed limit while the cops were chasing him] So instead of maybe taking out on the jurors or the police or who there hatred was supposed to over....they pull innocent people out of there cars and trucks and beat them...like they had anything to do with it....i just watched footage of it on AnE Channel and they even starting looting black owned businesses which p***ed off the actual few ahrd working blacks.

Wal-Mart trampling of one of there own, and no there isnt any documented cases of groups of whites doing it at Wal-Mart, so please.

New Orleans we touched on...which you can blame good ole Bill Clinton for because he diverted the money fro the upgrades to the levees to somewhere else......so leftists dems can applaud themselves for that one......plus on top of the fact that area is common for flooding yet people insist on living and partying there...which is your freedom of choice, but it also gives you the freedom to drown as well.

Now ill touch on the gays for a minute who also have misplaced anger....they lost there vote in California, so what do they do, they go and riot at white churches.....now last time i looked the blacks voted 75 percent on that one including voting for there messiah obongo.....so instead of rioting at a black church...they pick on the innocent as well.

So as i may agree on certain limited terms that not an entire race is certainly not all bad, however they really arent making a good case for themselves either...at least Bill Cosby stood up and said something and i even give credit to Obama because on the news Jesse Jackson said when he thought the mic was off that he wanted to cut Obamas balls off for telling the blacks to cut the sh** out so he could get the votes to be Pres.....so ill just sit back and wait and see how glorious this will turn out.

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 9:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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189. Cynic writes:

Yeah, and the holocaust never happened, America should nuke Iran, the Iraq war was a total success, Jesus hates gays, stem cell research is blasphemy, the Jews control the media, blacks are taking your jobs and George Bush will go down as America's greatest president. Just thought as long as we're going to ignore everything and list every hillybilly propaganda topic in one thread to overwhelm people we may as well get them all, eh ol' Timmy?

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 9:49 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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190. IrishMetal writes:

People live in areas prone to flooding all over the world. So that point is moot.

Gay peoples anger is not misplaced. They have are ridiculed, ostracized and treated badly by a lot of religious people. You said earlier that their behaviour is perverted I think. f*** that attitude. I f something is done privately between two consenting adults then who is it hurting?

Your other points I think you know the response to them. Just... I don't know. It's 3 in the mornin.

I shall look forward to other people's arguments in the morning.

Night all

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 9:51 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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191. TimW writes:

Good lord, for one im not a big fan of Bush, but i also dont point the finger at him for everything that goes wrong in the world either Cynic.

I am not a practicing christian nor do i claim any religious belief, i am man enough to know that something is out there, but what exactly...who the hell knows. I find it hard to believe such a grand design such as the universe just happened by pure chance.

And i laugh that blacks are stealing jobs, there stealing, but not jobs...lol....but we are told in closed rooms to hire them first before whites...so if that sounds real fair, it reall isnt....affirmative action is nothing anymore for what it was originally intended.

And if you really did your research of last names in banking, media and big business you will find the list is really large for a certain religious group.

So these are the facts...period...you cannot dispute that the news that ids force fed to us isnt slanted in some way.....every channel was in bed with Obama including Fox news...i thought Bill Oreilly was going to kneel down and suck him off towards the end of the election.

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 9:57 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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192. Fuck_A_Name writes:

Like Irish just said, it's getting late, and like Cynic has said numorous times, you'll just ignore everything i say anyway, but I do have to point out something:

Wal-Mart trampling of one of there own, and no there isnt any documented cases of groups of whites doing it at Wal-Mart, so please

Actually, the day the Ps3 came out, Someone got shot with a handgun for cutting someone in line. At Walmart. Go Figure. AND It was a white guy who shot a spanish guy. No blacks even involved besides the people who called 911. granted, it isnt trampling, youve got me there. Damnit. I guess that means youre completely right. Oh well.

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 10:01 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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And yes there is a big difference to a one off guy compared to a group of 2000 people, doesnt make it right what the white guy did by any stretch, but groups of whites didnt join in and start beating him down either...big difference in the math my friend.

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 10:04 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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194. Fuck_A_Name writes:

^The math doesnt matter. you said there were no such incidents similar to your cited one that had reversed race relations. I gave you one. Your point is entirely invalid.

If you really want to talk numbers, how about the thousands of Africans stolen from their continent and made slaves for generations to come? The hundreds killed during that time period, and post-slavery in lynchings and beatings?

The 6 million jews killed at Hitler's hands? The 10+ million killed at Stalin's hands?

Am I refuting that other races do things to whites en masse as well? No. i completely agree that white people get screwed the f*** up alot too. All i'm saying is get off your fvcking high horse. white people arent so great. We've done a lot of bad sh** too. We still do. Stop acting like all other races are scum and white people are the only people who do anything right. We all suck. Deal with it.

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 10:25 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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195. XWigglesX writes:

f***. Whites have been the cause of things that are far more "savage" than the things you've mentioned here.
Its not late here and I've finished work for the day. So I have all day. And Cynic will too.

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 10:25 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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196. TimW writes:

"If you really want to talk numbers, how about the thousands of Africans stolen from their continent and made slaves for generations to come? The hundreds killed during that time period, and post-slavery in lynchings and beatings?"

They werent stolen, there own people sold them and you know it, it is well documented and admitted by many african tribes that they gave us the sh** of the litter, thus the issues we presently have.

"The 6 million jews killed at Hitler's hands? The 10+ million killed at Stalin's hands?"

According to a census taken in that region which included Poland, Germany, and surrounding areas, there were only around 2.6-2.8 million jews at the time...Hitler didnt bus in the other 3 million...and yes Stalin was the real scumbag because he killed his own people and of course who was our allie...you guessed it. We tryed to stay out of the war but Churchill cried his fat a$$ off till we did something about it. We only had a beef with Japan, who were supposed to attack Russia but obviously couldnt read a compass.

And i will find the documents that show the jews claimed 6 million during ww1......The Americans at the time and all other european countries told them to shove it...didnt happen, so they claimed it again during ww2....numbers are not accurate once again, but we give in. It is something in some jewish book that says once a holocaust with the majic number of 6 million that the lord will give them Israel....so its just another scam...and yeah yeah yeah but the concentration camps......if i recall, seeing how my grandfather was there, that the jews and many others were liberated...kind of hard to liberate dead bodies, but apparently its a miracle how alive most of them were.

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 10:51 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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197. TimW writes:

Here is a link from an article dating back to 1919, i have proof rather then just throwing insults.

I await all the haters here to show me real proof and not just hate filled namecalling.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/6961043/The-Six-Million-Dead-Jews-of-World-War-One

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 10:54 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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I just tried to show a link from an article printed back in 1919 to show my proof, but it is flagged for moderation....so who knows if they will put it up...im sure they wont cause it will prove my point, i show actual evidence, not just raging insults.

# Dec 28, 2008 @ 10:56 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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199. XWigglesX writes:

The 6 million killed included homosexuals, mentally handicapped people, cripples and blacks.
The US government knew damn well that the Japanese were planning an attack.
Admiral Yamamoto knew the dangers of Pearl. He tipped his tea on the floor and said we can only go so far. The Japanese were not stupid. They knew the dangers of war with America.

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200. Cynic writes:

I've just finished work for the day too Wiggles but I honestly don't think TimW deserves anyones time anymore.

Not just raging insults eh TimW? Guess I must have misread posts 8,19,43, 61, etc....

# Dec 29, 2008 @ 12:39 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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201. TimW writes:

Wow that answered 196.....not at all.

# Dec 29, 2008 @ 1:26 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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202. Crushem writes:

To post 182- Tim, once again, you f***ing idiot. Case you forgot your 1st grade history lesson, wanna know how the white man survived when they first got to America? In the midst of winter and sickness and starvation, the f***in Indians saved their asses. Hence, Thanksgiving. Otherwise, Your "naturally superior" white pilgrims would've wasted away n died. End of story.

Cynic, and a few others, nice to know not everyone here is an ignorant racist and all around f***head.

# Dec 29, 2008 @ 2:41 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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203. wilco writes:

hail to post 62 and 63
well you know its good that meatal makes a comeback but did it ever left ?
well for the ones who ever wentto egypt its a cool country but the people suck man i di dlive there for two years in hurgada they are abunch of stupid poeple but the can do nothing about it
lokk at there history there goverment kept them down for so long
so it s nice when metal made it over there but a good music choice there holyman over there will stop it in a hard beat a atempt to polute the poeole mind by the westeren music they say and before you know they will burn a usa flag for that on the street

so for the ones who like history look at post 62 he is sort of right
any way to you all a metal 2009
hornsup

# Dec 29, 2008 @ 4:42 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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204. bbristowe writes:

" There wouldnt be the need for an army if people didnt act/think the same way you do"

Is that a serious comment? That is probably the most riduculous and ignorant post ive ever read on here. Man im sure glad you know what your talking about. How bout you put the drugs down you f***ing idiot. Because i feel that most kids go to college to party and waste parents money, and i believe that working your a$$ off deserves far more credit than hippies in school. That is the reason we need a army? Not only do you sound ignorant, but it also makes no sense.

Thanks for ranking in the top retarded things ive ever read on here. Classic bbristowe!

The United States wouldn't need to defend itself if people did not have the same ideologies and views as you. I'm retarded. Listen to yourself. I don't attend currently and the only thing I am going to go back to school for is real estate and marketing.

We tryed to stay out of the war but Churchill cried his fat a$$ off till we did something about it. We only had a beef with Japan, who were supposed to attack Russia but obviously couldnt read a compass.

That right their just proves any claim anyone has made towards you in this thread. Supposed to attack Russia. Laugh out loud. FUN FACT: U.S. and Japanese tension was growing through the early to late 30s. Japan planned to expand their territory into French Indochina and Manchuria. U.S. seized all Japanese assest coming in and out of the U.S. (except oil, that happened later in 1941) Pearl Harbour. Voila, their you have the Pacific Theatre.

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205. KORNDOGG writes:

Once again your comment doesnt make sense nor is it relivent to what we were discussing! And good luck in a real estate career, I dont know where you live but around here there are enough realtors to last a lifetime. You might as well be a lawyer, like there isnt enough of them. And my point exactly, that is not where any money is at, most people go to college for the same damn careers, and end up doing something different and paying off student loans for the rest of there life. Marketing may be a little better choice for you

PS- And you can just state the post number, you dont have to copy what i said in your post and then respond. Kinda stupid. But then again you will probably copy this in your next post.

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206. That_One_Guy writes:

KORNDOGG -- To post 86 back there.. I wasn't going to say anything to you about liking Korn; that's your business. It's not that I don't like your taste in music. I understand that you don't care for my taste in music and I don't care for yours, but leave the personal attacks out of it. I didn't even address any comments to you before this and you're all too quick to assume that I'll attack you. To make things even better, you typed a reply to an attack I didn't even make. Now that's funny.

# Dec 29, 2008 @ 12:00 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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207. KORNDOGG writes:

And hey fatass Wilco, learn how to type, what are you drunk? You type with more errors than anyone on here combined. Example- Its metal, not meatal. But did it ever leave, not did it ever left.
Did live, not di dlive. Look at their history, not lokk at there history. I could go on, but you get the point retard.

PS- that picture, if its you, looks like a child molestor or rapist. Your f***ing creepy

# Dec 29, 2008 @ 12:05 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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208. KORNDOGG writes:

That_One_GUY- I get it from all angles, so yes my guard is up. But let me go back to what you said-"I was going to say something to KORNDOGG and TimW, but i really dont have time to waste on either of them" Now to me thats an insult, so when im insulted i respond. As you would too or you wouldnt of responded. And to bad you dont have the time, because i would love to hear your response.

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209. Blindgreed1 writes:

KORNDOGG: You are incorrect. I love threash meatal, Blek metl, but not zee powahhh meatal. lol.

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# Dec 29, 2008 @ 12:23 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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210. That_One_Guy writes:

KORNDOGG -- What I was saying to you was in response to your evolution comments. I just didn't feel like arguing the points. Nothing personal against you, but TimW on the other hand...

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211. Cynic writes:

KORNDOGG - please tone down on the personal attacks, Wilco said nothing and did nothing to you so didn't deserve any of that. Also you should note that the internet is worldwide, and people for whom English is a second language also use this site.

# Dec 29, 2008 @ 1:32 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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212. Netromancer writes:

Blind, why you gotta put down ze powahh meatal? You no likah ze Manowar? :)

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# Dec 29, 2008 @ 1:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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Post 203, please please please people look up your history, not the force fed crap you get in schools. Now with that said, Japan was asked by Hitler to leave America alone, Hitler had no real intentions to mess with America. Japan decided to take the other route and not do as Hitler asked...Russia would have been crushed and the outcome would have been different. Also Stalin betrayed Hitler as well because of his own person "rule the world complex". But yet we allie ourselves with a criminal like Stalin who killed more of his own people then whatever people think Hitler did, but not a moment goes by on the History channel where there is a Hitler this and Hitler that documentary......Patton told the president that we should continue into Russia and finish the job because they would betray us like they did Germany.....the rest is obvious cold war history.....read the story on Patton....there is alot of history that is missed by your typical school teacher that isnt shared with the kiddies.

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214. Blindgreed1 writes:

Netro: I aint hatin brother, it just isn't my cup of tea.

Cynic: How was your holiday?

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215. IrishMetal writes:

TimW - Hitler also had no designs on britain originally, he admired them, and wouldn't have fought with them if they hadn't stepped in to fight for belgium... I'm pretty sure it was belgium, cud'nt be bothered to go find out...

# Dec 29, 2008 @ 2:14 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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216. Netromancer writes:

Don't worry, Blind :) Just jokes. I stopped trying to understand it a long time ago. Definately no way I'm going to try and recruit more Manowar fans. That kind of stuff can cause fistfights among us metal-heads.

# Dec 29, 2008 @ 2:37 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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217. Blindgreed1 writes:

Netro: Lol.

# Dec 29, 2008 @ 2:59 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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218. Cynic writes:

Not bad Blindgreed, Xmas was good and I get a few days off after New Years so I'm hoping to stay with a few friends at some lakes if time allows. And no need Netromancer, I'm like all the Manowar fans rolled into one - Other bands play, Manowar KILL!

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219. Netromancer writes:

In all seriousness though, when Cynic and I listen to Manowar we don't look at the album covers...especially "Anthology".

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220. Blindgreed1 writes:

Netro: That makes me feel much better about the whole thing. lol. I did enjoy their version of Silent Night though. He is a very talented vocalist.

Cynic: Very cool man. I will be doing my traditional New Year's eve viewing of "Black Sheep" (not the Chris Farhley movie) which was filmed in New Zealand. Funniest horror film I have ever seen in my life. Are you familiar with it?

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221. psythe writes:

farkin hell - I leave you guys for just a few days and the excrement hits the electronic rotating blades machine!

row row! fight ze powah!

and by that I mean, I don't listen to a lot of power metal. some bands do it well, and I listen to them very occasionally. but for the most part I'm not really into it. bit too cheesy for me.

# Dec 29, 2008 @ 4:27 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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222. psythe writes:

Oh, and Black Sheep is a brilliant movie hahahah

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223. Cynic writes:

Anthology... *shudder*, haha we all know real men wear fur skin underwear.

Yeah but I haven't seen it yet, friends tell me it's good though. Looked like it would remind me of Peter Jacksons early films.

# Dec 29, 2008 @ 4:30 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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224. KORNNDOGG writes:

OK, alright im sorry for being mean to wilco, i was a little harsh. But you guys know i have a anger problem, and a little off my rocker sometimes. My bad

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225. KORNDOGG writes:

^^I couldnt even punch my name in right, sh** im the retard. Lol

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226. Blindgreed1 writes:

Cynic: I highly recommend it. It's best to watch with a group of friends and a few drinks.

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227. bbristowe writes:

"Oh, and Black Sheep is a brilliant movie hahahah"

Quoted for the truth. I can't really find time to argue anymore. It's kinda boiled down to the point where we are digging up random facts about events in history to help support a post I made 226 posts ago. Alls well that ends well. I learned something this week.

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Was it don't argue with hillbillies?

Lol. Righto BlindGreed I'll get round to it sometime.

# Dec 29, 2008 @ 6:44 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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229. XWigglesX writes:

Hitler attacked Russia you knob.

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Hey idiot, Hitler attacked Russia because Stalin posted his troops right on Germanys border and going against the agreements they had, thus showing Stalin was the aggressor.

# Dec 29, 2008 @ 10:17 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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231. XWigglesX writes:

Operation Barbarossa was planned months in advance. Stalin put his troops on the border because they knew that Germany was going to attack.

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232. Cynic writes:

No Wiggles is right.

Anyway Wiggles why argue with a guy who'll respond to being wrong with calling you a left-wing loon? Even the people like KORNDOGG who agree with some of what he's saying call him racist and ignorant. Also, defending Hitler, debunking Einstein and justifying fear propaganda in that the Jews control the media? I mean if that ain't an anti-semitic slant in this thread I don't know of one.

# Dec 30, 2008 @ 2:33 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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233. XWigglesX writes:

Well true. Destroying ignorance one bigot at a time.

# Dec 30, 2008 @ 4:50 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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234. Blindgreed1 writes:

You guys are cracking me up over here.

# Dec 30, 2008 @ 10:28 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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235. IrishMetal writes:

This is no laughin matter blind... unless you refer to the platypus versus wiggles scenario. In which case its definitely not a laughing matter. THIS IS A SERIOUS BUSINESS.

# Dec 30, 2008 @ 10:54 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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236. Blindgreed1 writes:

Irish: Mornin brother. I find it hilarious when people go into a battle of wits unarmed. Especialy when Cynic, you and Wiggles are involved. He's also made references to Wiggles "putting down the pot" in another thread. Anyone can clearly see that "XWigglesX" is edge... Ha-duh!

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237. IrishMetal writes:

Haha thanks for the compliment Blind. Its all good, especially if some people learn from other points of view. Or see why their own are faulty...

# Dec 30, 2008 @ 11:43 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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238. Blindgreed1 writes:

Irish: Epic fail... He's over at the Megadeth coffee thread now. How's the GF doing?


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239. IrishMetal writes:

She was out last night and someone took her wallet, they found it later with all the money still in it, but her driving license is gone. Otherwise she's pretty ok...

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240. Blindgreed1 writes:

Irish: Glad to hear it all worked out the way it did. I don't think that would ever happen here. Keep it heavy brother \m/\m/!!!

# Dec 30, 2008 @ 1:12 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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241. XWigglesX writes:

Pop pills, smoke pot and get drunk every day. Ha.

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242. BrunoHockalugie writes:

Are you trying to be an elitist douche bag there Wiggles?

# Dec 30, 2008 @ 2:17 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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243. Blindgreed1 writes:

Wiggles: You forgot the heroin needle pushin and coke snortin. lol.

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# Dec 30, 2008 @ 2:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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244. Blindgreed1 writes:

Bruno: Wiggs is edge too.

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245. BrunoHockalugie writes:

Wiggles-Yeah, my idea of a good time is having unprotected gay anal sex while shooting up a wonderful concoction of heroin and cocaine. BlindGreed joins in as well. You are missing out!

# Dec 30, 2008 @ 2:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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246. BrunoHockalugie writes:

BlindGreed- Does that mean I can't share needles and have gay sex with him? :(

# Dec 30, 2008 @ 2:23 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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247. Blindgreed1 writes:

Bruno: I already tried to elicit gay sex with him and he wasn't down at all. lol. He's a manly man crock wrestler/molester from down under.

Wiggles: Have you tried your hand at molesting that platypuss yet?lol.

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248. BrunoHockalugie writes:

BlindGreed- Ah, I remember my first Platyp***y. I will never forget it, what an experience!

# Dec 30, 2008 @ 3:23 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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249. americanpatriot1 writes:

Dammit!!!!! I always miss out on the good sh**!!!

# Dec 30, 2008 @ 3:26 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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250. BrunoHockalugie writes:

What's up American Patriot? How ya been? You would have loved debating the Tim guy who has been showing up in the threads. Maybe he will come back?

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251. americanpatriot1 writes:

What's up Bruno? Dude, I've been pretty busy the last few days. I wanted to get in on Tim, but you guys were doing such an admirable job, I didn't want to spoil ya'lls fun. Something tells me he is Bullys second cousinn.

# Dec 30, 2008 @ 3:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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I really tried to stay out of that one as well, AP. Keep the mind on the metal.

# Dec 30, 2008 @ 3:44 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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253. Blindgreed1 writes:

AP: We recently found out that Bully is actually Rex Kwon Do from the Napoleon Dynamite movie. For short I believe we should just refer to him as RKD.

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254. americanpatriot1 writes:

Bow to your sensei. BOW TO YOUR SENSEI!!!!!!!!

# Dec 30, 2008 @ 4:39 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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255. Blindgreed1 writes:

AP: Lol. He goes home to Starla every night!

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# Dec 30, 2008 @ 4:41 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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256. americanpatriot1 writes:

LOL. Lucky bastard.

# Dec 30, 2008 @ 4:59 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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257. XWigglesX writes:

Nah Blind they are no game. Too easy. I rather animals that could bite your face off hahahah.
Sup guys?

# Dec 30, 2008 @ 5:15 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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258. Blindgreed1 writes:

Wiggles: What about the poisonous spines on the back of their legs? That has to count for something doesn't it? lol.

# Dec 30, 2008 @ 5:20 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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259. godlike writes:

Im thinkin thats what duct tape is for.??

# Dec 30, 2008 @ 5:33 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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260. XWigglesX writes:

Ah even a kitten can do more damage. Lol my kitten is getting pretty game. Yesterday it pounced at my dog. I couldn't believe it. Because she normally just hides from him. He just looked at her as if to say "what the f*** do you want?"

# Dec 30, 2008 @ 6:04 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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261. metalheaddrummer101 writes:

not to be an ass, but the chat thread is in A7X articles:)
my cat can eat small furry animals(she is like a kitty version of Glenn Benton)
she bites off the heads of bunnies and leaves them out at our front door(she also is sadistic, from the animal-torturing:)

# Dec 30, 2008 @ 6:41 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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262. XWigglesX writes:

That's totally metal!

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263. godlike writes:

Yeah, it sure is...!!
My dog likes to kill opossum's and leave on the back porch.! Thats always fun to find early in the morning..!!

# Dec 30, 2008 @ 7:36 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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264. XWigglesX writes:

Brutal as!
I want TimW to come back and defend himself some more, well try to anyway.
I guess he thinks that because he is a good little American Capitalist that does whatever he is told he has a right to pick on other people because they aren't part of good ol' US of A.
No offence to the rest of you. I'm sorry but America is doing too much hand sitting at the moment. Helping the starving kids, deal with Iraq and have the stones to actually go into Pakistan and deal with the real reason that Bin Laden and his whole organization are still in existence.
NYE tonight bet I'll get into a fight. Drunk dudes hate me.
But more importantly,

Happy New Years guys! Hope next year is good to you lot.

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265. Blindgreed1 writes:

Wiggles: I was reading up on Ned Kelly last night. Very cool story. That dude was totally metal.lol. Have a safe and happy new year yourself brother. Crack a knucle for me too!

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266. XWigglesX writes:

Hahahahaha Ned Kelly. Apparently he got shot 28 times.

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267. Blindgreed1 writes:

Wiggles: What I read didn't say how many times he'd been shot, but it says that he was an Iron clad warrior who made a breast plate out of ploughshares so the bullets bounced off him. What did him in is that he came back for his men after making a clean escape and eventually got shot in the leg which took him down. They hanged him 5 months later. That's fvcking metal brother!!! \m/\m/!!!

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268. Jsin666 writes:

What are we talking about ?

# Dec 31, 2008 @ 8:50 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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269. XWigglesX writes:

Ned Kelly. He is the man.

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dEr PiTs ProLLy sTaNk ;D rArArA !@!@ --!||| -_- |||! ;D 8====B ()+:<;

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271. psythe writes:

Ned Kelly was a mad bastard! Some of the most famous last words in history, too. "Such is life." My old man uses that line a lot hahah

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272. XWigglesX writes:

Oh lOoK i CaN wRiTe LiKe YoU eYyYe b****eZzZ

# Jan 1, 2009 @ 12:32 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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273. metalheaddrummer101 writes:

Wiggles-Stop making fun of that fourth grader:)

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274. That_One_Guy writes:

Posts 241 - 248, LMAO!

I've heard of Ned Kelly, but don't really know much about him. I'll have to do some reading up on that.

My parents' cat is a vicious monster. He kills all kinds of small animals and leaves their bodies on their porch..

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275. Blindgreed1 writes:

BTW Guys, Jsin is my gay blek metl kVlt roomate. He's okay for a flamer. lol.

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276. metalheaddrummer101 writes:

hey, black metal is AWSOME!!!!!\m/

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277. That_One_Guy writes:

Blindgreed -- Say what? Lol. ("Not that there's anything wrong with that," to quote Seinfeld.)

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278. Blindgreed1 writes:

TOG: I just put that up because we made a deal not to talk about eachother on here last night. lol. Drunken promises don't mean sh!t. Jsin is my blek metl brother. See his profile to get the real scoop on him. B!tch got me funk as druck last night.

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279. That_One_Guy writes:

Lol.

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280. metalheaddrummer101 writes:

Blindgreed-listening to pantera this morning?:)
N.P-Pantera-Walk

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281. Blindgreed1 writes:

Metalhead: Is it warm there today? It's like 70 here.

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282. That_One_Guy writes:

Blindgreed -- 70 degrees? sh**. It's like 20 here.. it's a heatwave!

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283. Blindgreed1 writes:

TOG: Bring your alcohol... I have a pool. lol. I'll do my best to keep Jsin off you.

# Jan 1, 2009 @ 12:51 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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284. That_One_Guy writes:

Lmao, I've actually had several gay men hit on me over the years.. I think the fact that I care about my appearance gives off the wrong impression.. :-/ Lol.

# Jan 1, 2009 @ 12:57 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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285. Jsin666 writes:

I am not gay unfourntly for chris

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286. Blindgreed1 writes:

Jsin: That's not what you said last night ssssailor. Anyways, were going to get in trouble if we don't stay on topic so... Your sister thinks i'm Arabic huh? Is she hot?

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287. Jsin666 writes:

My sister that thinks your arabic Is a redheaded hippy with 5 kids..I wouldent touch her with 10 foot pole

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288. That_One_Guy writes:

Do I sense a bit of sexual tension between you two? Lol, kidding, kidding. I just couldn't help myself.

# Jan 1, 2009 @ 1:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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289. Jsin666 writes:

sexual tension? No just lack of sex

# Jan 1, 2009 @ 1:23 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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290. Blindgreed1 writes:

Jsin: Interesting... My pole happens to be ten foot two. Yalla Yemshi!!!

# Jan 1, 2009 @ 1:25 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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291. Jsin666 writes:

Get back on your camel mustafa..I said pole not toothpick.. O DOYAL RULES!!!

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292. Blindgreed1 writes:

Jsin: My bad. They don't call me needle d!ck the bug fvcker for nothing. That fvcking thing isn't very big around but it sure is short!!!

# Jan 1, 2009 @ 1:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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293. Jsin666 writes:

lol wow we do have alot in common

# Jan 1, 2009 @ 1:51 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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294. metalheaddrummer101 writes:

holy sh!t it's a c***fight!:)
Blind-I don't really know, as I haven't left the house yet. But the ice that's usually on my window is water now, so I suspect that it's warmer...I think that wisconsin and norway have a lot in common. Cold dark forests and kickass black metal:)
You might like the band Halem, Jsin...

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295. Jsin666 writes:

wisconsin is worse then Norway..same weather same forrests but no blackmetal icons

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296. metalheaddrummer101 writes:

we have some good black metal...Halem and Darkgrave are awsome...We also have folk metal for some reason...

# Jan 1, 2009 @ 2:10 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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Theres quite a large number of norsemen in wi its almost the same population as norway actually

# Jan 1, 2009 @ 2:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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298. americanpatriot1 writes:

My old neighbor did his winter prep training in Wisconsin, to get ready for Norway. He said Wisconsin was way worse than Norway. I still would like to go there. If we get to go back to Europe, I will make a more concerted effort to get there.

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I would take either one at this point just to get back in the cold again. Definately not looking forward to another NC summer.

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300. godlike writes:

Living in Iowa isnt too much warmer than Wisconsin...!!
And oddly enough, Im a mixture of Norwegian and Iroquois/German... Hows that for a combination..?

Did you guys here about the gay Irish couple..? ( not that there is anything wrong with being gay)

There names are Gerald Fitzpatrick and Patrick Fitzgerald..!!

# Jan 1, 2009 @ 3:49 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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301. metalheaddrummer101 writes:

Wisconsin? worse than NORWAY??? woah. Last winter was cold, though. We had school cancled because it was -30 with the windchill, or something like that...

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302. Jsin666 writes:

Ya

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303. Jsin666 writes:

Verp mien leben

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304. godlike writes:

And what the hell is that spose to mean.?

# Jan 1, 2009 @ 4:53 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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305. metalheaddrummer101 writes:

good fvcking question!:)

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hrm...i tink mein leben means "my life" in German...not sure on the verp. Is it supposed to be a "burp?"

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307. metalheaddrummer101 writes:

a what?

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I'm going to have to side with godlike on the weather issue. Iowa is quite cold and snowy in the winter, though we lack the deep, vast forests of Scandinavia.

# Jan 3, 2009 @ 11:52 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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309. metalheaddrummer101 writes:

we have those forests in wisconsin...:)

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310. That_One_Guy writes:

Yeah, but we have........ umm... Damn. We don't have anything.

# Jan 3, 2009 @ 12:38 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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311. metalheaddrummer101 writes:

AND we have black metal!:)
Halem rules\m/

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312. americanpatriot1 writes:

TOG, all you guys have is corn and tornadoes.

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313. That_One_Guy writes:

Lol, yeah. And deer.

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314. metalheaddrummer101 writes:

yeah, we also have deer.

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315. americanpatriot1 writes:

Big ol' corn fed deer. Good huntin' and good eatin'.....you lucky bastards.

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I have a John Deer trucker hat. Go have a look on my myspace ahahahaha

# Jan 3, 2009 @ 10:09 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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317. metalheaddrummer101 writes:

ap1-I've never had deer. My friend has had some, though.
Wiggles-that's not a deer!:)

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