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Phil Anselmo Denies Drug Rumours And Talks About Pantera

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Phil Anselmo, former frontman of Pantera and Superjoint Ritual and current vocalist of Down and guitarist for Arson Anthem recently did an in depth interview with AntiQuiet, during which he spoke about his days in Pantera, feud with the Abbott brothers and the rumours that he is back on drugs. Some excerpts are as follows:

Antiquiet: I don’t mean to dredge up old bullshit, but I want to talk about something you’ve encountered firsthand. When you had that beef with Dime and Vin, us fans got the word through fuckin’ Metal Hammer and the music journalists, who of course tend to… you know, pull the juicy quotes out, to keep the circus going, to get attention, to sell magazines.

So let’s say things were different and the journalists minded other business, and you guys had space to work it out on your own. Do you think things might have turned out differently?

Phil Anselmo: Well… it’s kind of a moot point here. But if you’re talking in… imaginary terms, if you’re talking what ifs, theoretically, yeah. Rex and I actually talk about it a lot and we know… Pantera could have kept going.

The interview that sparked off everybody’s imagination… Little to everyone’s knowledge, the guy who asked me that- it was supposed to be off the record- he asked me straight out what would happen if [we] got into a fight- a physical thing. First of all, that never would have happened. Second of all, theoretically, once again- obviously, I would have the advantage over them. So I put it in a [certain] way, like a million motherfuckers do every day- boxers, et cetera- you know, they say they’re going to do terrible, horrible things to each other, and then after everything clears, they shake hands and hug each other and it’s done.

But if things are put as an absolute, and it’s just black and white, it’s just read and it’s taken that way, and it’s very unfortunate that it was. Because, as I’ve said before, Pantera was a mighty force man.

Antiquiet: Damn right.

Phil Anselmo: And not only do I miss those days, and Dimebag and Vinnie, and the whole crew, and the whole vibe, and the pride that was behind it, and the validity that was behind it- as I’ve said before, Rex and I… We always said that we would have all of us gotten into one room and argued and screamed… And a lot of it would have been my fault, but at the time I was a wounded duck. I needed back surgery so bad, it was pathetic. And I’ve uh… I’ve made some bad choices.

Antiquiet: I’ve gotten into beefs with my friends and shit, people I grew up with, and it’s one thing to have it out with people you love-

Phil Anselmo: Yeah, but not in front of the entire world.

Antiquiet: Yeah, see that’s what I’m trying to get at man. ‘Cause I figure when you’re talking through other people, when the whole world is watching, and putting their two cents in, it’s gotta make it harder to keep shit together.

Phil Anselmo: Well yeah, it does. But… (long pause) It’s done with, and that’s over.

Antiquiet: So man, I’ve gotta ask you about something. We’ve seen some interviews with you recently, that honestly made us worry about you. Sometimes you seem out of it, and some of the fans are saying you’re back on the drugs, some are saying it’s medication. So do you just want to set the record straight?

Phil Anselmo: I never heard that I was back on drugs, that’s fuckin’ ridiculous. That’s fuckin’ stupid. But fuck everybody, really. I’m livin’ my life, I’m doing exactly what the fuck I want to do… I’m not out to fuckin’ impress, I don’t give a shit man. And people- I mean look, I’ve been… gay, my neck’s been broken from stage diving, I’ve been everything- a satanist, a white supremacist…

Antiquiet: (laughing) Yeah, I know man. Well, I ask ’cause I worry. As a fan. I don’t wanna see you go anywhere, I want my fuckin’ kids to see you live one day.

Phil Anselmo: I’m fuckin’ stronger that fuckin’ most fuckin’ men my age. And I don’t even drink.

It’s just… after back surgery, you never know, one day is a good day, shit- you can have a good week- and then, there’ll be a weather change or some shit like that, and you might go through some pain. Pain, pain, you know it’s… Me and pain are intimate. But through physical therapy, and yoga, and pilates, and all this shit [I've learned how to] make the pain at least tolerable. You stretch that fuckin’ shit out man. You get up off your ass and fuckin’ get up and- every day- set thirty minutes aside, and fuckin’ stretch that shit out and it changes the whole fuckin’ day.

Antiquiet: You getting by without painkillers? Or do they still have you on that brutal Soma shit?

Phil Anselmo: I’m on one drug, and it’s called Lyrica. And what that does is it’s an anti-seizure medicine. And a lot of people are on this drug who have sciatic pain, or pain like I have- which is sciatic, but it’s from after the surgery, sometimes when the nerves reconnect, they reconnect wrong. And that was my case pretty much.

It’s three times a day, and I’m sick of that shit too. I’m tired of all this crap. But it does help, it quells the pain, just a little. You can always feel it though, there’s numbness in my left foot since the surgery. But the stretching and all gets the blood circulating, and blood circulation an incredibly important fuckin’ thing.

I also box like ten rounds a day when I’m at home, hitting the bag, and just working on things. So… You can’t do that sorta thing loaded, or back on the drugs or junk or whatever. So let all the fuckin’ naysayers fuckin’ take a walk in my fuckin’ shoes. They can be sweating and saying I give up, after ten minutes of my workout.

Things are so much better though. I could tell- directly after surgery I could tell- that the doctor had fixed what was killing me for so long. He fixed it. Three ruptured discs, you know? So anyway, I sit here with titanium in my back, telling you that the more work you put in, the better you’ll feel. However, it’s still, three years later, a day to day thing. It really is. You know, a turn of the weather, or a drop in pressure, God knows. You know… It is what it is though.

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1. Blindgreed1 writes:

Hmmm. Okay then.

# Nov 24, 2008 @ 3:31 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. Netromancer writes:

I dont know how much that comes out of his mouth is true or not. (Goes for pretty much anyone I suppose, not just Phil) But the last 3 Down albums were very good. Such a great mix of Metal and Southern boogie rock. Great riffs, great lyrics and vocals. Kind of like Sabbath meets Allman Bros. Not to mention Pepper is the man. Hell, all of em. Kirk, Jimmy, Rex and Phil. They are a great mix of musicians who have all payed their dues and cut their teeth on good old fashioned metal. While I miss Pantera and will always be a fan, its nice to see members of that band still making quality music.

# Nov 24, 2008 @ 3:51 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. Southern_Bastard writes:

It's a damn shame.... But i like what phils doing these days... down, arson anthem etc. Its good to see people moving on....

# Nov 24, 2008 @ 3:58 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. Cynic writes:

"For every f***ing second the pathetic media pisses on me and judges what I am in one paragraph - Look here - f*** you all!" - War Nerve, gotta love that quote.

Phil is the man, I'm not Downs biggest fan but I love Superjoint Ritual and hopefully he can crank out another album for them in the future.

# Nov 24, 2008 @ 4:30 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. Diamond Oz writes:

I love SJR too Cynic but I think he has some beef with a couple of the members so I wouldn't see it happening.

# Nov 24, 2008 @ 4:40 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. V writes:

Phils the f*ckin man. thats all that needs to be said.

Now Playing-'Learn From This Mistake' Down

# Nov 24, 2008 @ 4:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. cruor writes:

How have I never heard a SJR song before will puzzle me.

# Nov 24, 2008 @ 4:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. jimmy j writes:

I will always be a Pantera and down fan. I just phil can get his life stright and rock for many f***ing years to come.

# Nov 24, 2008 @ 4:48 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. deathbringer writes:

It's funny - I've been b****ing about getting old and the cold weather. All these injuries you rack up over the years - sprains and broken bones - they start aching like hell in the cold weather. I sprained my ankle about 3 weeks ago and it was doing much better a week later and a few days after that the cold weather hit and it's been throbbing like hell all day long. My knees do the same. I can't imagine what that would be like in your spine. Gotta be hellish.

# Nov 24, 2008 @ 4:50 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. Diamond Oz writes:

Yeah it's a real bastard for your spine in the cold.

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# Nov 24, 2008 @ 5:09 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. Cynic writes:

Damn it Oz must you always crush my dreams! Haha, SJR lyrics are priceless, Phil at his best imo.

# Nov 24, 2008 @ 5:20 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. SHREDDER13 writes:

I respect Phil and all but things could've been better with him. Oh well, life's a risk...

# Nov 24, 2008 @ 5:25 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. Cynic writes:

Ahaha, just re-read part of that and came across my fav Phil quote ever - "let all the f***in’ naysayers f***in’ take a walk in my f***in’ shoes."

Haha, I'll keep that one hidden and whip it out some time.

Now Playing: Primordial - "Empire Falls"

# Nov 24, 2008 @ 6:13 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. Necropolis writes:

At some point, don't you think Phil would have learned how the whole media thing worked? I guess part of me doesn't really buy that he had no idea that his words would be twisted a bit. Part of me just feels like he is trying to play the naive card, and I'm not exactly buying it.

Doesn't make a difference what I think, but at some point I stop believing that he had no idea his words would be used against him.

Oh well, I still respect the guy, but I take his words with a salt block.

NP: Tiesto's Club life Podcast 84

# Nov 24, 2008 @ 6:31 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. Jenny writes:

I wish him the best; go Phil, go!... \m/

# Nov 24, 2008 @ 6:33 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. bbristowe writes:

Well, when you say off the record, it is supposed to be off the record. I love phil, he rocks.

About the pain in cold weather and sh**. I broke my hand in rugby and now my knuckle is about 1/2 cm lower. It didn't really bother me until winter hit now it aches like a bugger. Same with my right knee, met the front bumper of a truck and it's starting to take its toll. All I can say for people who have injuries like that. Work it, constantly. I go for runs and do squats daily. Cause as soon as the muscle around that area weakens you rely on tendons cartilage and bones to hold you up and they're as weak as stink.

# Nov 24, 2008 @ 7:25 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. travlow1 writes:

I like Phil best when he is loaded on pills like me. The shows are that much better.

# Nov 25, 2008 @ 1:48 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. Leprosy101 writes:

I never knew Phil was a white supremecist

# Nov 25, 2008 @ 2:33 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. Cynic writes:

Was that a joke? He means that he "according to the media" he was all those things.

# Nov 25, 2008 @ 2:43 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. Diamond Oz writes:

He isn't a white supermecist. He said some things that were misinterpreted by people and when he was was doped out on skag he made a notion that looked like a nazi salute and said something that resembles "white power" though it's been debated what he actually said. I honestly don't believe he's a racist, just that people say all kinds of crap when they're drunk and drugged and he's too vocal for his own good sometimes.

# Nov 25, 2008 @ 6:34 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. americanpatriot1 writes:

Phil is hard to peg for me. He has said some things that are a little suspect, but, none of us on this board really know what's in his heart. I personally think he's hurting bad, and is just too afraid to let it show. Personally, the thing I can buy the most is the "white" thing. On stage in Seoul, he made some comments that left a few of us scratching our heads. Then again he was blitzed on Soju. I never got into his side jobs, with the exception of Down. "Trendkill" is one of the greatest albums ever.

# Nov 25, 2008 @ 7:30 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. brettTHEjett writes:

HAIL THE LEAF

# Nov 25, 2008 @ 11:24 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. the almighty jake writes:

superjoint is by far the best thing he's ever done.. and i can't wait for a full length arson anthem album!

..by the way, hank iii all but confirmed that there WILL be more SJR in the future...

# Nov 25, 2008 @ 12:13 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. Thrash or Die writes:

Phils the sh** thats all that needs to be said. Pantera Murders anyone in its way and Superjoint Ritual was like watching something i wouldv'e love to see in a backyard highschool gig. f*** The World Long Live DIme

# Nov 25, 2008 @ 1:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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25. murder667 writes:

not really a fan of down, but in my book pantera IS the most important band in metal. without them in the 90's who knows where the hell metal would be today, honestly, every metal band that has come out in the last decade owes a debt to pantera.

with phil its hard to pick out the bulls**t but at least he does realize hes made some bad decisions

# Nov 26, 2008 @ 1:16 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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26. XWigglesX writes:

Drug free is the way to be, trust me.

# Nov 26, 2008 @ 4:50 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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27. That_One_Guy writes:

I'm not sure how much of what Phil says I should believe.

deathbringer: I know exactly what you mean about the old injuries.. I had an abcessed (sp?) tooth last year that broke because my wisdom teeth were coming in and I didn't have insurance to get it taken care of.. it hurts like a b**** in the winter, sucking that cold air in. And my knees are in horrible shape too, and they ache all winter long!

Now playing: Slayer - "Tormentor"

# Nov 26, 2008 @ 11:19 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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28. Netromancer writes:

A little herbal supplement now and again is a good thing though, trust me. :)

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# Nov 26, 2008 @ 12:23 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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29. V writes:

^^^^hahah, the herbature!
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# Nov 26, 2008 @ 9:54 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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30. brandedcfh420 writes:

XWigglesX writes:
Drug free is the way to be, trust me.

i agree, free drugs are the best!!!!....wuhahahahahahahahahaha....j/k there wiggs...

# Nov 26, 2008 @ 10:02 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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31. XWigglesX writes:

Haha suuuuure sure.

# Nov 26, 2008 @ 10:15 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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32. brandedcfh420 writes:

lololol....ive actually been sober for about a week now...not by choice though!!

# Nov 26, 2008 @ 10:17 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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33. XWigglesX writes:

I've been sober for almost two years. Yep.
Actually I used to drink a lot when I was young. Would do a whole bottle of vodka most Saturday nights.

# Nov 27, 2008 @ 1:36 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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34. kali writes:

f***in p***ies! Its all about the whiskey!

# Nov 27, 2008 @ 1:54 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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35. XWigglesX writes:

Nah I rather water! Haha

# Nov 27, 2008 @ 5:00 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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36. That_One_Guy writes:

Whiskey's good, but it's too early in the day for that. I at least like to wait until the P.M., lol.

Now playing: Behemoth - "As Above So Below"

# Nov 28, 2008 @ 11:40 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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37. Txmetalhead writes:

I can't wait to hear some more Down tracks. I respect Phil but he needs to be careful what he says to the media...he ends getting himself into hot water quite a bit. Anyway, can't wait to hear and see the new Down DVDs. When I die - Bury Me In Smoke.... Southern metal at its finest!

# Nov 28, 2008 @ 12:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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38. That_One_Guy writes:

I'm not so sure Phil cares what he says to the media. Come to think of it, I'm not so sure Phil even KNOWS what he's saying to the media at times. Even if he did stop doing drugs, that sh** messes with your mind even after you've quit..

Now playing: Metallica - "Creeping Death"

# Nov 28, 2008 @ 12:48 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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39. dime's dead bcs uv u! writes:

Need I say more phil?

# Nov 30, 2008 @ 3:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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40. Netromancer writes:

Actually, Dime is dead because a mentally ill man named Nathan Gale shot him.

# Nov 30, 2008 @ 4:04 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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41. Metal Joe writes:

Not only does Phil miss Pantera, but I miss Pantera too, though it's not the same without Dimebag. I'm also glad that Phil isn't on drugs anymore.

# Dec 8, 2008 @ 3:03 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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42. Kali writes:

On the 4th anniversery of Dimes very tragic death, I would like to say: FUUUCCCKK YOOOUUU PHIIIL!

# Dec 8, 2008 @ 3:24 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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43. Metal Joe writes:

Happy deathiversary, Dimebag! Your legacy with Pantera will keep living on.

# Dec 8, 2008 @ 4:36 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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44. Blindgreed1 writes:

Kali: \m/DIME\m/

# Dec 8, 2008 @ 5:13 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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45. Chazz writes:

After four years apart, the world has almost never been the same without Dimebag.

# Dec 8, 2008 @ 5:24 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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46. Kali writes:

In so many ways I wish Phil died this day 4 years ago, but alas, the good guy always gets fvcked over! Again; FVCK YOU PHIL YOU GOD DAMN PIECE OF SH1T!

# Dec 8, 2008 @ 5:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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47. KILL PHIL VOL.1 writes:

God bless you Kali.When your together that long your like a family,sure you fued but you work it out!And last time I checked my mother never paid me multi-millions to put up with her for seventeen years.When your changing METEL HISTERY you can't let anything stand in your way, you BREAK ON THROUGH!Dime rest in piece,good luck VINNIE!!!!!!!!!!!!

# Dec 10, 2008 @ 11:30 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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48. brandedcfh420 writes:

KILL PHIL VOL.1 a little something for ya::

METEL HISTERY=METAL HISTORY....
rest in piece=rest in peace....

kalis, ill email you some midol.....lololol...xxxooo

# Dec 11, 2008 @ 12:30 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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49. Kali writes:

Branded, I have Midol already! Hahaha!

Kill Phill Vol1, "Satan bless you" would be more potient for me, but thank you for the thought. I do agree with you 100%, too!

# Dec 11, 2008 @ 2:12 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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50. SlugEmperor writes:

oooohh phil.. drugs aren't good for you.


Nowplaying:pantera-floods

# Dec 11, 2008 @ 10:48 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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51. AlliedFront676 writes:

I love PANTERA, DOWN and SJR. "So look here f*** YOU ALL"

# Dec 11, 2008 @ 1:01 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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52. Jackrum writes:

to quote the legend that is Mr Macky

"Durgs are bayud"


"mmmkay"

# Dec 11, 2008 @ 1:05 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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53. KILL PHIL VOL 1. writes:

brandedcfh4:20-Are you f***in jerkin off when you think about PHIL.You guy's defend this guy like you guy's are suckin him off.I do believe half the people on this would polish off old PHIL'S c*** if he asked them too.Myself and Kali are intitled to are opinion that's the way I feel.If you read any metal mag's you see the tribute's DIME get's.When phil die's will see how much tribute he get's.Because there is one huge difference between PHIL-N-DIME PHIL is a d***.Let's see if EDDIE VAN FUCIN HALEN put's his guitar in his casket!I'm guessing not!!!!!!!!!!!!

# Dec 14, 2008 @ 9:45 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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54. brandedcfh420 writes:

all i did was correct your misspelling and u flipped out...omg, nm kali, ill send him the midol.....

# Dec 14, 2008 @ 9:49 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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55. godlike writes:

Um... Im thinking KILL PHIL needs more than a midol...
Perhaps a few bong hits will do the trick ;-)-~ ~
He is right about one thing... Phil Assholo is an idiot..!!

# Dec 14, 2008 @ 10:03 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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56. Kali writes:

Midol rocks! Hahaha!

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