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Trivium Frontman Speaks On New Material

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Orlando metallers TRIVIUM are currently in pre-production for their new album, tentatively due before the end of the year via Roadrunner Records. The as-yet-untitled CD will be produced by Nick Raskulinecz, who has previously worked with FOO FIGHTERS, RUSH, VELVET REVOLVER, SHADOWS FALL, STONE SOUR and DEATH ANGEL, among others. Guitarist/vocalist Matt Heafy writes in an online posting, "20 songs recorded: 20. 20!!! We've NEVER recorded this many songs for an album ever 20!!! I mean hot damn! And these are all DEMOS. These have been the most extensive demos we have ever done, before we'd merely just do a quick demo of the songs we were to record for the upcoming album. This time we wrote it, re-wrote it, worked and arranged, recorded and re-recorded so it's gonna be good. Next step is for me to write the lyrics and vocals for the latest batch of 10 songs, record those then we'll have our producer come down and we will work out the kinks of all 20 tracks and wittle them down and pick the absolute best songs for the new album. Then? Actually do it. Haha. We're so happy with the new material. It's our strongest material to date; it encompasses everything that is TRIVIUM to the four of us and to our fans."

In a recent interview with Revolver magazine, TRIVIUM guitarist Corey Beaulieu stated about the upcoming CD, "We want to capture the best ingredients of everything we've done. Each song has a little bit of everything, going between something heavy and then melodic, and then back to something heavy. So it has a really interesting balance. On 'The Crusade', Matt did almost all singing, so this time we're bringing back some of the screaming that's on 'Ascendancy'."

"I'm also trying new things vocally," Heafy added. "Live, I've been able to really push the high vocal part of my range in the style of Rob Halford. So maybe I'll put some of that on the album."

Source: Blabbermouth

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1. jayballer14 writes:

sweet, hopefully it will be like their older stuff

# Feb 16, 2008 @ 4:30 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. Andrew writes:

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, I am so NOT looking forward to this album. Im just gonna wait for the Opeth disc and disregard this record completely.

# Feb 16, 2008 @ 5:14 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. Jrizzle writes:

^^^^^^^^Agreed

# Feb 16, 2008 @ 5:38 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. Zero 54 writes:

I am glad they are bring back the screaming and brutality they had on Ascendency

# Feb 16, 2008 @ 5:46 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. wrath5316 writes:

.......Im more into Opeth as well. As for Trivium....didnt really care for their material much.

# Feb 16, 2008 @ 5:54 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. Agnostic Priest writes:

Matt Heafy says: "Live, I've been able to really push the high vocal part of my range in the style of Rob Halford",
f*** THAT sh**!!!!!!!
Hey Matt, when I saw you on tour with Lamb Of God, your vocals sucked a$$ okay, you can barely impersonate James Hetfield's vocal style. What the f*** makes you think you could do the high screams of the Halford? Your such a joke man, you suck and your band sucks, get over yourself.

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yeah Matt, there's no way you can sing like that, shut the f*** up

# Feb 16, 2008 @ 6:44 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. Andrew writes:

What Brutality? These guys never were "Brutal" They're first couple albums sound like every mainstream metalcore band out there, and The Crusade is a bad tribute to a style that went out years ago. I'll agree that they butchered the Thrash era in a Brutal way though, but face it, these guys aren't very good.

# Feb 16, 2008 @ 8:30 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. Terminator writes:

uggh....first hetfield, now halford....if heafy has any respect for his idols he'll quit shaming them and take some vocal lessons

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# Feb 16, 2008 @ 11:04 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. Hetfield writes:

Love this band!
Loads of talent between them.

As to all the haters, I guess your bands are doing well? Selling lots of records? Packing venuse around the world?

# Feb 17, 2008 @ 1:27 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. Terminator writes:

"As to all the haters, I guess your bands are doing well? Selling lots of records? Packing venuse around the world?"

and i guess our bands also aren't pelted with bottles of piss and a mockery in the true metal world.

so take your pick. personally, i'd rather have the respect of the underground than be playing to 20,000 disgruntled fans patiently waiting for the headliner.

# Feb 17, 2008 @ 1:33 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. TripleXXXButtman writes:

Agnostic Preist!! Who the f*** are u kid, shut the f*** with your dumb rant, i dont see your twelve year old a$$ singing. I dont even like Trivium, and i mean i dont like them at all. Maybe you should worry about going thru puberty first, you b****. Now i stooped to your retarded level and started judging people.

# Feb 17, 2008 @ 1:50 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. XWigglesX writes:

TripleXXXButtman shut it.
Are you edge?

# Feb 17, 2008 @ 1:55 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. mike s. writes:

matt heafy's a d***head

# Feb 17, 2008 @ 1:56 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. Zero 54 writes:

Andrew I was refering to Trivium going back to a heavier Metalcore sound being a positive. I loved Ascendency for what it was an outstsanding uniuque reocrd the fusied agression with melody. if i want brutal i listen to behemoth, see you next tuesday, beneath the massacre, heaven shall burn, or countless others.

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# Feb 17, 2008 @ 4:33 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. Dark_Funeral writes:

how is a band with the name see you next tuesday brutal, or is it that deathcore sh** that all the fake metalheads think is "br00tal"

as for trivium, f*** em. and f*** matt queefy too.

# Feb 17, 2008 @ 10:24 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. EpicNeckbeard writes:

I was going to post on here some smartass comment about why i dislike trivium, but then i saw where Dark_funeral called matt heafy, matt queefy and i realized i couldn't say anything funner than that. so well done my friend. hahaha

# Feb 17, 2008 @ 10:42 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. Hetfield writes:

Wow...
You people still enjoy calling people names?
Well, When you get passed elemetary school, You'll find that there's a lot more to the metal than you could ever imagine. (hopefully)


And Terminator,
Sorry, But it's people like you that do nothing positive for the world of metal. Not Trivium.

# Feb 17, 2008 @ 10:53 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. FocusShift writes:

Trivium wouldn't have done anything positive for metal even if The Crusade was a good album. It would still just be a tribute album to the thrash era that died in the mid/late 80's.

And Dark, See You Next Tuesday is a grind/spaz band but their name is such so they can abbreviate it C U N T.

# Feb 17, 2008 @ 11:38 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. Hetfield writes:

Even if you see as a "Tribute", That my friend, Is positive.

# Feb 17, 2008 @ 12:40 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. DeathInEye writes:

Bands like See You Next Tuesday aren't brutal. They're fvcking schizophrenic and illogical. All Shall Perish, the Faceless, Dying Fetus, Becoming the Archetype, Between the Buried and Me, As Blood Runs Black, and countless others are brutal and they understand how to put a song together. Playing a bunch of random sh1t and screeching and growling doesn't make you brutal, it makes you immature and pointless. Putting everything together in a concise pattern that flows logically is brutal.

# Feb 17, 2008 @ 12:54 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. Public Execution writes:

Boo watered down thrash. If you want to listen to some real thrash that has been released recently, go pick up Warbringers new cd.

# Feb 17, 2008 @ 12:54 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. FocusShift writes:

Note: I said if it was a good album.

Warbringer's not bad, but their particular brand of thrash is missing something that Slayer and Metallica had at the height of their melt your face thrash days.

And by definition brutal means savagely violent and in reference to music, its referring to the speed of the music and density of the riffs. Brutal means different things for different people. C.U.N.T. is one of those bands who you know you can't take seriously (because of song names like "Good Christians don't get jiggy with it till after Marriage") but if you can enjoy their lack of any sense then go ahead and enjoy it.

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23. EpicNeckbeard writes:

um, Yes... Yes i do enjoy calling people names... does this mean i have detention now?

# Feb 17, 2008 @ 1:19 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. dethmonkee writes:

i enjoyed Ascendancy. as far as metalcore goes it wasn't bad. Crusade was crap though

# Feb 17, 2008 @ 2:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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25. ZT writes:

Metallica rip-offs.

# Feb 17, 2008 @ 2:39 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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26. Terminator writes:

hetfield -- here's what i do that's positive for metal:
1. i listen to it.
2. i go to shows whenever possible - and i go to watch the bands, not karate kick like an idiot who's only there to "mosh".
3. i buy band merchandise (i.e. music/apparel/patches/posters/etc). even though the label probably gets the bulk of the sales, it's one step closer to getting a band that i like another record deal.

so on the contrary, it is people like me that have helped keep the underground and metal in general alive.

if trivium were a true tribute band, they would only play covers. instead, they are blatently ripping off iron maiden, metallica, judas priest etc. all while jumping from trend to trend. trivium are ignorant posers, and that isnt positive.

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27. EpicNeckbeard writes:

That deserves a standing ovation.

# Feb 17, 2008 @ 3:14 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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28. Kalis_wrath writes:

Termie, you rock!

# Feb 17, 2008 @ 6:21 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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29. †ƒallen† writes:

Terminator quotes:
"As to all the haters, I guess your bands are doing well? Selling lots of records? Packing venues around the world?"

Terminator says:
"and i guess our bands also aren't pelted with bottles of piss and a mockery in the true metal world.
so take your pick. personally, i'd rather have the respect of the underground than be playing to 20,000 disgruntled fans patiently waiting for the headliner."

People who urinate in beer bottles are worthless and even more so if they throw it at someone. Common sense.* News Flash * ANY musician trying to reach an audience is trying to be recognized in one form or another. Everyone is trying to hit the "mainstream", that's how you make a living. Ask an honest musician their objective and that's what they'll tell you. Sure The Crusade was Metallica-ish and I didn't even give it a chance. But their album "From Ember To Inferno" is terrific. Besides everyone is influenced by someone, every band has influences. Give it up.

# Feb 17, 2008 @ 7:41 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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30. Dark_Funeral writes:

trivium arent metal! Terminator owns this thread

sorry i just make assumptions when i see a band name like that, especially since i hate bands like "the devil wears prada" and "i killed the prom queen"
see where im coming from?

oh and matt queefy wears tight pants, so..GAY
tight pants arent metal, not wearing pants is!

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31. Zero 54 writes:

Thanks Focus Shift

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32. Dark_Funeral writes:

of course every band has their influences but trivium is just shaming their influences when they should be revered.

people who piss in beer bottles then throw them at sh**ty bands arent worthless, they're funny. i wish there were some people like that at sounds of the underground 2 years ago. god trivium were so bad, and paolo cant sing, why do they make him do backing vocals when its obviously heafy tripling over his vocals on cd

# Feb 17, 2008 @ 7:45 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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33. †ƒallen† writes:

Why would anyone revere another person or band?? Who called Trivium metal anyway? But why else would someone post this article on here if they weren't considered metal. Yeah Terminator owns this thread, dude, yeah! What an accomplishment.

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34. RememberMetal? writes:

DeathInEye: "Putting everything together in a concise pattern that flows logically is brutal."

BULLsh**!!!!

Bands that put together insane rhythms, off the wall song structures and barely stay within the boundaries of music can be, and often are, more metal than the acts that follow the template.

By your logic Hannah Montana is brutal. She has concise songs that flow logically does she not?....Safe is SO metal....Christ.

Anyway...

Trivium as great or metal....Not so much.
If your green to metal then they're a a good bet in terms of new/younger bands. More metal than Korn, less nasal and dry-heave inducing than A7X. They have their heart in the right place, the lyrics are just bland and/or infantile.

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35. Kalis_wrath writes:

Fallen, you are an idiot! "Everyone is trying to hit the "mainstream", that's how you make a living. Ask an honest musician their objective and that's what they'll tell you." Are you from planet Earth? Any honest musician will tell you that when he honestly want's your money and alot of the times their music is not even worth the price of an album!! Furthermore there are plenty of musicians that just want to jam and make music because that is what makes them happy. My father is a fine example of that. He rocks and could have a band if he wanted to, but does not want to.

# Feb 17, 2008 @ 8:11 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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36. †ƒallen† writes:

Why are you talking about your personal life? Besides I thought you were a guy otherwise I wouldn't have responded to your non sense on the GNR chain.

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37. Dark_Funeral writes:

fallen do you listen to bands like hawthorne heights and silverstein

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38. †ƒallen† writes:

No, why? Wait I don't care because you think your funny and nothing will come of this anyway.

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39. FocusShift writes:

Oh you nihilistic online thread subscriber you.

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40. †ƒallen† writes:

Nihilistic does not describe me. I don't have to prove myself to anyone. How can you measure someone's strength/convictions by reading a handful of posts?

At The Gates, Pantera, In Flames, Dark Tranquility, Decapitated, 1349, Lamb Of God, Amon Amarth, Through The Eyes Of The Dead, Despised Icon, Animosity, Between The Buried And Me, Emperor, etc, etc, etc....

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41. Terminator writes:

lol FocusShift

thanks for the support guys and kalis. \m/ \m/

fallen -- meh, whatever. i think you need to take off the boxing gloves and loosen up a bit. if you truly don't care what we think and dont have to prove yourself, than why did you bother posting that list of bands you like? is that not personal and unrelated to this thread, which is what you were nagging kalis for earlier?

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42. Kalis_wrath writes:

No prob Termie!

I do talk about my personal life on here sometimes, mainly because I view our reg's as friends and like to share and not everyone has a myspace page. No one has ever told me not to and think that I am not the only one guilty of that crime. If I may ask Fallen, how old are you?

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43. Terminator writes:

^ i agree. i was just trying to give fallen some perspective, not start a war.

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44. †ƒallen† writes:

24, you?

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45. Kalis_wrath writes:

Fallen, I am 23. At times I feel like an old lady!!!

How you doing by the way Termie? Good weekend? We have had a great weekend on here! It was way more busy than in the past. I think Fallen has relaxed a little. I will say that being a woman in the metal world can be tough, but that's what I love about it and would have it no other way!

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46. Terminator writes:

i'm doing well. get to see skeletonwitch again tomorrow!! i had to log some hours at work this weekend, but other than that it was pretty good.

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47. Andrew writes:

Dude, Terminator has left the building, that was an awesome post! I give you a standing ovation as well. And No, the majority of the good metal bands don't give a rip about money and fame, they just want to make good music and create their own sound. That's why bands like Trivium sell all the records because they appeal to trendy people and aren't creative enough to make their own unique sound. They are complete posers. But whatever though, I don't have a problem if people like them, just know that they have no respect on this website.

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48. †ƒallen† writes:

This is not a response to Dark_Funeral's post but more of an observation ~ I think The Devil Wears Prada is creative and talented. This is by no means an attempt to start anything. But I also love Dark Funeral. I understand they're on opposite sides of the spectrum religiously but if it's good music I'll listen! I try not to limit myself. :-)

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49. Dark_Funeral writes:

back on the subject,
(max cavalera voice)trivium's fukin gay!

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50. dethmonkee writes:

wonder if he says that about every band he considers to be metalcore

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51. ZT writes:

Once again, Metallica rip-offs.

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52. old skool thrash writes:

Dark_funeral, i agree with u, up until u said tight trousers aint metal. check all the 80s thrashers, thats where drain f***ing pipes came out from bro!!! and its METAL TO THE f***ING CORE! ;P thrash as f***! so dont assume tight trousers were made by gays of today

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53. FocusShift writes:

Tight pants and girl's pants are two different things.
Matt Heafy wears girls pants because baggy jeans are "Nu-Metal and gay."
He's one to talk about being a pipe smoker.

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54. Necropolis writes:

My biggest beef with the band is that they really are talented musicians, but they don't play any new music. They are basically just contributing music from the '80's and calling it their own. I would love it if they took a step back and played music that is them. If sounding like Megadave and Metallica is them, then frankly, I will buy Megadave and Metallica. I would rather have them be a new band, then sound like an old one.

Plus, I still think that The Absence had a great marketing ploy by telling kids to bring in their Trivium shirts to get an Absence shirt. BRILLIANT.

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55. Jrizzle writes:

Trivium is gay. Municipal Waste is awesome

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56. FocusShift writes:

I did that Necropolis, best thing I've ever done involving Trivium. The merch guy took my shirt and wiped some pizza grease on it.

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57. Necropolis writes:

FocusShift writes:
"I did that Necropolis, best thing I've ever done involving Trivium. The merch guy took my shirt and wiped some pizza grease on it."

Absolutely Hilarious.

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58. Vamphetamine writes:

Acendancy is a pretty good album. I'm 32 and have been listening to metal for a loooong time. I must admit, Crusade did disappoint me, not because of the style of music or the Hetfield sound, but because it was kinda like one step forward, two steps back. It sounds like a quick garage demo instead of a well written album.

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59. Vamphetamine writes:

Also, who cares what clothes they wear. Remember when Anthrax were wearing day-glow shorts with basketball boots? Sure they looked goofy but the music spoke for itself.

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60. cruor writes:

That may work for Anthrax but not for bands like a7x or Trivium.

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61. Dark_Funeral writes:

id take anthrax over trivium any day of the week

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62. IsmellFanboys writes:

Holy sh**.
This is what happens when you get a bunch of metal "fans" together:
"They are t3h suxz0rz!!1111ONE"
"DEY R LIEK T3H N0T, DEY T3H RULLLZZZ00RRZZ"
" R LIEK TO 0WNZORZ AN SH!T 0N DEM!!!1111 LOLOLOLOLOLLOL!!!111111!!!!!1!!ELEVEN"
Seriously, will you whining little fanboys shut up?
Trivium are skilled IN WHAT THEY DO. That doesn't mean that they are the best that metal has to offer, but they are at least SOMETHING worth offering.
BAM! Simple and effective. Now go listen to your death metal and enjoy undecipherable lyrics about god knows what and sh** guitars that are drop tuned beyond all recognition. REAL Metal (you can hear vocals and understand them, yes even metalcore has both recognisable screaming AND CLEAN Vocals) is about SKILL (Not banging your stupid drop tuned guitar into hell and creating some BS Chugga Chugga CRAP) and TECHNICAL PROFICIENCY (NOT double kicking mindlessly and smaking the snare like a caveman) , not pig squeals (seriously, who finds that a skill to have or aspire to have? f***ing losers) and total utter sh** that is your Death (to music)Metal(can it EVEN deserve to have metal at the end? its only added here for the sake of clarity).
Anyway, thats my 2 Cents.

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63. CrawfordTexasJingoJango writes:

Trivium may be skilled, but apparently, that doesn't mean people are going to like them.

For one, they suck.

For two, we already have two or three sh**ty Metallica albums without these jackoffs making a bunch more.

For three, who the fxck wears a bandana onstage anymore?

I'm guessing that mister boy-sniffer above me has never been in any bands because the thing that makes me so angry about Trivium is, yes, they are talented, but they suck. Their songs sound like cover songs of songs every other band has written. It makes me upset that you would go off half-cocked over a band like Trivium.

Myself, and quite a few of my friends find Trivium to be the equivalent of Limp Bizkit as far as making any memorable music or helping advance the genre in any way. Trivium is the Wal Mart of heavy metal, and I hope you can eventually find your way to some other bands, because while you're wasting your time trying to convince yourself that Trivium is worth listening to, you're missing a shxtload of other really awesome metal.

One band, for instance: Acid Bath. Their demo release is better than any polished turd Matt Hetfield can squeeze out, and that's on any fxcking day.

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64. teddy_assasin writes:

i disagree with wat alot of the ppl on here have to say about trivium. they are considered metal by alot of ppl. and in my opinion they are some of the more creative song writers.

listening to: falling to grey, trivium

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65. teddy_assasin writes:

i agree with comment 62

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66. willie writes:

no one gives a f*** about your new sh**..you guys lick balls.

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67. miltownmetal writes:

sooo, if trivium sucks so much (crusade did suck), what do you consider good metal?

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68. cruor writes:

CrawfordTexasJingoJango writes: "For three, who the fxck wears a bandana onstage anymore?"

Uh, Hellhammer?

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69. Agnostic Priest writes:

Iron Maiden does as well.

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70. cruor writes:

Post 62 writes: "Now go listen to your death metal and enjoy undecipherable lyrics about god knows what and sh** guitars that are drop tuned beyond all recognition. REAL Metal (you can hear vocals and understand them, yes even metalcore has both recognisable screaming AND CLEAN Vocals) is about SKILL (Not banging your stupid drop tuned guitar into hell and creating some BS Chugga Chugga CRAP) and TECHNICAL PROFICIENCY (NOT double kicking mindlessly and smaking the snare like a caveman)"

I love how you use Technical Proficiency and skill to describe what you think Death Metal is not, even though technical proficiency and skill go hand in hand with death metal. Listen to Nile or Cryptopsy and then reread your posts. Death metal is actually one of the the most technically proficient forms of music in the world.

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71. FocusShift writes:

To go on cruor's statement, Post 62,
You pretty much just described the worst of the generic deathcore band's that popular underground music is plagued with these days.

And some metalcore bands have the most unrecognizable vocals in the world. Hell, search YouTube for Interpretation of Trivium or As I Lay Dying.

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72. cruor writes:

^Those are funny, especially the stuff on Trivium

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73. CrawfordTexasJingoJango writes:

Well, cruor, that's at least TWO bands that should be sterilized and erased from music history forever.

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74. Uhhuh writes:

Whats the deal with who likes who. hell i love BFMV, A7x and Trivium like crazy, AND!! i also listen to L.o.g, Amon Amarth, Dark Tranquillity, Machine Head, In Flames, Cannibal Corpse, The Red Chord, Pantera, all the classics from the 80's Especially Zeppelin and Eric Clapton..and also looking forward to Triviums new stuff, should be good,

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75. CrawfordTexasJingoJango writes:

^^ Wow...that sucks. Have you ever heard of a great band called 36 Crazyfists?

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76. texlonghorn10 writes:

that was on of the funniest things ever, did he really say he is becoming halfordesque. i wonder if he said that with a straight face, cuz if i was there i would be on the floor laughing my a$$ off, then id have to get up and smack the big eared f*** for saying something so retarted. halfords a god and should not be in the same breath or sentence as halford. or anyone good singer for that matter! unless its, halford metal god slams wannabe hetfield! matt heafy for comparisons.

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77. Hetfield writes:

It seems Texas is just full to the rim with drop out brain dead rednecks who don't have a clue....how sad.

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78. Txmetalhead writes:

To the moronic blanket statement above[post 77] - go back to high school or elementary. I am from Texas - graduated from college - so I guess there may possibly be some intelligent people from Texas. Where are you from Hetfield - California? Yeah- your governor Arnold is one to speak..lol You are just proving by your statement above that you have ZERO intelligence - and just trying to start trouble with Crawford Texas and myself.

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79. Txmetalhead writes:

BTW - I do like 36 Crazyfists...and to Hetfield - sorry James Hetfield is ancient now...his vocals are sh1t - age does that to ya.

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80. CrawfordTexasJingoJango writes:

Trust me, I'm not from Texas. My s/n is from a David Cross stand-up bit he did about President Bush dancing like a redneck idiot when there is real problems to attend to. It's actually "Silver spoon Crawford Texas jingo jango", but hey, you get the idea.

...and my 36 Crazyfists comment was a joke. Thanks for falling right into it.

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81. FocusShift writes:

For real. . .talk about a band who follows the trends. Hah, just realized that would apply to Trivium as well.

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82. cruor writes:

CTJJ writes: "Well, cruor, that's at least TWO bands that should be sterilized and erased from music history forever."

Which bands from my post are you refering to? The first is obviously Trivium but I can't tell if you are refering to Satyricon (since I had them in my now playing list) or As I Lay Crying?

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83. Dark_Funeral writes:

miltownmetal writes:
sooo, if trivium sucks so much (crusade did suck), what do you consider good metal?

quite simple you bandwagon tight pants clad scenester, black and death metal along with thrash like slayer! you can never go wrong
-behemoth(demigod, not the apostasy), Kalmah, dark tranquillity, heaven shall burn, dimmu borgir(ETD/Devils Path era but the discs with nick barker are good as well, i even like the new release a bit), old mans child, obituary, dark funeral, satyricon, 1349, cannibal corpse, and the 2 metalcore bands i like; devildriver and chimaira.

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84. Agnostic Priest writes:

Na dude, Devildriver is not metalcore. Their first album is kinda on the verge of being metalcore, but I'm listening to Bound By The Moon as I'm typing this and its definately NOT metalcore.

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85. metal_owner writes:

these people sayin this n that... but they actually dont get music in their own damn heads. if u all r really metalheads, then u will just shut up... n play ur own music. nothin is better than ur own sh**!!!... dig that mothaf***ers.

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86. CrawfordTexasJingoJango writes:

As I'm Gay Crying was the band I was referring to. Trivium is so bad also.

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87. FocusShift writes:

Post 85. . .learn English and proper discussion before trying to make a point. Telling anyone to "shut up" is rather juvenile, especially with this being a discussion sight.

Devil Driver does sit on the verge of metalcore, their riffing style is pretty simple in my opinion. I'm not saying all simple riffing is evidence of -core but their particular style is.

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88. Agnostic Priest writes:

Devildrivers FIRST album sits on the verge of metalcore, their first two releases have a rather simple riffing style but The Last Kind Words blew all that to sh**. That album isn't even the slightest bit metalcore, like pretty much any popular american metal band these days gets called a metalcore band at some point, and I've heard Devildriver get called Nu-metal quite a bit due to Dez's previous band Crap Chamber. Actually it was in a Terrorizer review of the Last Kind Words and the dumbass called them "sh**ty nu metal crap" and gave the album like a 4 outta 10 or something like that.

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89. FocusShift writes:

There's still a good deal of -core styling in their new one. They did get more melodic metal but that doesn't change that Dez is still their vocalist and I cannot listen to him. If they would get a new vocalist whose vocals weren't (in my opinion) ruining the music I may like them.

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90. Agnostic Priest writes:

Dez's vocals definately take some getting used to, I used to hate them myself. And yeah theres some "core-styling" on their new album but that doesn't make them metalcore, pretty much any band that has a little bit of "core-styling" will get called metalcore by the metal masses. Pantera and Sepultura both have a bit of "core-styling" but they aren't metalcore either.

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91. FocusShift writes:

True, though DD still has more disks as a band that played a groove/core style over a melodic death style. That's all I'm saying really.

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92. Dark_Funeral writes:

i hate trivium.

and on the subject of devildriver, them and chimaira are like the 2 american bands i listen to. all the local bands play deathcore bree bree and hardcore sh**. it really sucks.

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93. Agnostic Priest writes:

I'll agree with you there but I still don't consider DD metalcore, I mean compared to Bury Your Dead or Unearth Its hard to call them metalcore I think.

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94. Dark_Funeral writes:

bury your dead is like the one hardcore band that doesnt eat sh**.

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95. Agnostic Priest writes:

They eat loads of sh** in my books, If I want hardcore I'll take Black Flag or Agnostic Front, none of that sludgey breakdown sh**.

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96. cruor writes:

^You read my mind man; bands like Black Flag, Bad Brains, Agnostic Front, DRI, and Minor Threat are the way to go.

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97. Agnostic Priest writes:

f*** yeah dude, plus Circle Jerks, Poison Idea, MDC, old Cro-Mags and old Sick Of It All, Crucifix, Discharge, GBH, DOA, the Casualties.............the list goes on man.

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98. phil writes:

lol, who said 'between the buried and me' is brutal? I love that band but they are so far from brutal that it's not even funny. Trivium's old stuff was ok 'thrasy metalcore', but if u want hear a lot better 'thrash metalcore' u should listen to the new 'as i lay dying' and 'unearth' releases.

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99. cruor writes:

Old Suicidal Tendencies, Carnivore, Dead Kennedys, Misfits, The Damned, Stormtroopers of Death, Nuclear Assault, your right man this list does go on forever
Hail true hardcore and crossover

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100. FocusShift writes:

Phil, I would have to counter your statement on BTBAM. The Silent Circus had some pretty savage riffing and by definition brutality refers to the speed and/or density of the music. Listen to the first half of Mordecai for an example.

Hardcore's not my thing, even with my love of breakdowns.

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101. xXxBODOM OF MY HEARTxXx writes:

IF IT IS LIKE THE POISON THEN I THINK IT IS WORTH A LISTEN OR TWO IF IT IS NOT THEN ILL JUST SAY f*** IT....

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102. Fuck A Name writes:

f*** Trivium. the first time i ever heard them, I was sitting in my friends car, and one of their Cds was playing. I ask my friend, "Who the f*** is this? It Sounds like what would happen if you took Metallica and then simplified and mainstreamed it a hundred times over. It's uncomfortable and awkward". He could do nothing but laugh.

f*** Trivium. the only song I've heardby them that beats my description is "Gunshot To the Head of Trepidation", but it's still only half-decent, and hardly noteworthy

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103. ZT writes:

"f*** yeah dude, plus Circle Jerks, Poison Idea, MDC, old Cro-Mags and old Sick Of It All, Crucifix, Discharge, GBH, DOA, the Casualties.............the list goes on man."

I love that sh**!

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104. cruor writes:

Cause real hardcore is the sh** man. I hate how bands like Hatebreed give the hardcore name such a bad name.

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105. Agnostic Priest writes:

Yeah I know dude, bands like Hatebreed, Integrity, First Blood and Death Before Dishonor are such a derogatory form of hardcore, it sounds absolutely nothing like the earlier bands, they sound like a completely different genre altogether.

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106. Dark_Funeral writes:

phil wrote- 'thrasy metalcore', but if u want hear a lot better 'thrash metalcore' u should listen to the new 'as i lay dying' and 'unearth' releases

as i lay dying. thrash?
GET EDUCATED

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107. Dark_Funeral writes:

on the subject of hardcore, all the kids who swing their arms around and sh** can go belly up. punching people all over the place isnt what metal is about, f***ing hardcore dancing queers

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108. FocusShift writes:

I don't know Dark, have you heard the new AILD? They definitely added much more of a metal factor on their new one.

And thats not hardcore, thats scene and everything scene touches that was once good (melodic death metal, hardcore, death and grind) forms a mainstream counterpart that no where compares to the original.

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109. Agnostic Priest writes:

^ anyone who does that sh** is a total loser, they're either tight clothed screamo scene fag or some fat "hardcore" kid in baggy jeans and a ball cap.

oh and phil never said As I lay Crying were straight up thrash he just said they're thrashy metalcore, but pretty damn screamo as well. If I want thrashy metalcore (which is the only metalcore I'll listen to) I'll listen to Unearths latest album or some Shadows Fall.

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110. phil writes:

yea i never said they were thrash metal, just thrash influnced metalcore, which As i lay dying certainly is on their new disc. Take a listen before u judge. Bands like Unearth, Shadows Fall and As I Lay Dying(new) are much better than Trivium. I have nothing against their old stuff though, as someone mentioned earlier, the song "A gunshot to the head of trepidation' is decent. But massachusets metal is the sh**.

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111. FocusShift writes:

And Agnostic. . .that is sadly almost the entire music scene in Pittsburgh these days.

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112. Agnostic Priest writes:

^Wow, that sucks dude

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113. take back metal writes:

so i kinda read all 112 posts ...maybe 80...idk whos counting? anyway...it went from trivium...to devildriver....to bury your dead....let me bring it back


trivium blows

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114. Hetfield writes:

It's funny how so many of you say how Trivium sucks..Blah, Blah Blah and yet you spend so much time here on the ole Trivium thread.
Envy? Jealous? p***ed because your band can't get out of the basement? Just plain can't stand the fact that some people can hear talent and you can't? Who knows....

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115. Agnostic Priest writes:

^this idiot writes: "can't stand the fact that some people can hear talent and you can't"
Thats right dumbass, I rip on Trivium because I can't hear the talent, on the contrary from what music I've heard from Trivium I can indeed hear the talent . But do you know what else I hear? sh**TY a$$ MUSIC is what I hear, just because a band has talent doesn't mean they're good, their music that is. Trivium has a bit talent but they bastardize it and write incredibally boring watered down songs with lame whiny lyrics. Thats why I rip on them.

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116. Hetfield writes:

" But do you know what else I hear? sh**TY a$$ MUSIC is what I hear, "

My point exactly. Why are you here then? You know, Trivium Thread?
Move on to something you like...

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117. FocusShift writes:

Why? Since when has that ever happened at MU? Think of a band you hate and should never be put into the realm of good metal and tell me you wouldn't leave a comment about how that band does not deserved mentioned.

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118. cruor writes:

Well Hetfield, one could argue why you are here right now in a Trivium thread instead of listening to Trivium. We are here because we getting our opinions out there on bands when most people in our everyday lives don't know and wouldn't understand.

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119. Hetfield writes:

What exactly makes a band "Deserving of mention" ? Only that YOU think so?
And how could you possibly know what I'm listening too while I type this?

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