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Megadeth Frontman Pitches In For Marines

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Dan Lamothe of MarineCorpsTimes.com reports that MEGADETH mainman Dave Mustaine coordinated the donation of thousands of toys through the Marine Toys for Tots Foundation to wildfire victims in the San Diego area, including four pallets that were delivered to Camp Pendleton, California.

The effort was organized with the help of Hasbro Toys, which donated a portion of the thousands of games, block sets and dolls delivered.

Toy deliveries also were made to the chamber of commerce in nearby Fallbrook, California, and to North Coast Church, a Fallbrook church the Mustaine family attends, said Bob Leonard, chief executive officer of the chamber of commerce.

"He's this interesting paradox, with a family who regularly attends church, but he's still involved in that kind of music," said Leonard.

The toys were delivered to the church in part because there are 300 to 400 children of Marine families who attend and have parents deployed at Camp Pendleton, according to a prepared statement by the band.

Source: Blabbermouth

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80 Comments on "Megadeth Frontman Pitches In For Marines"

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1. Andrew writes:

OOOHHHHHHHH YYEAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH, GO MARINES!!!!!!!!

# Jan 11, 2008 @ 9:55 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. kainsrevival writes:

hell yeah. lol im sitting in my marine drill hall right now on my cell. thanks dave! semper fi

# Jan 11, 2008 @ 11:04 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. Kalis_wrath writes:

Alright, that earns Dave 100 points! Kainsrevival, if you are a true Marien THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!! I salute you! I dont know, but I been told Eskamo p***y is mighty cold! Hehe that is the start of my favorite Marien cadence.

# Jan 11, 2008 @ 11:40 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. Kalis_wrath writes:

In fact to all the troops on this site THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! Truely from every ounce of my 125 lbs and who I am thank you. You havent a clue as to how proud of you we are and how much I support you! Also... For those about to go over seas we cant wait to see you when you get home. Again THANK YOU! I myself am going to do some volenteer work for the U.S millitary.

# Jan 11, 2008 @ 11:46 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. darenluster writes:

inspite of dave's inconsistency with his music business he sure does have a 'heart of gold' and do i sense a sensitive side to Kalis_wrath ? : )

# Jan 15, 2008 @ 11:03 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. Kalis_wrath writes:

When it comes to the millitary, yes. My family and friends are laced with men and even one woman in uniform. I even have a ww2 vet in my family and my great uncle died in the Vietnam war. I am proud of everyone of you men and women. You guys kick arse in my eyes!

# Jan 15, 2008 @ 2:50 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. smoothjazz writes:

why thank you. means more to us than most people think. but seriously though, whats with all this love the marines get? what about us army guys huh? HOOAH

# Jan 15, 2008 @ 4:55 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. Diamond Oz writes:

Marines, army, air force, navy, whatever people do to support their country deserves the utmost respect and much more admiration than many celebrities get. I got a mate joining the army in a bit and another mate going into the RAF, much respect to them.

# Jan 15, 2008 @ 5:00 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. Kalis_wrath writes:

Since I am a good councelor and have experiance with the millitary will offer my email to the vets and millitary family members on this site. Kalis_wrath_666@hotmail.com is my addy. I usually have had people use a private message box, but we dont have that here. I understand confidentiality laws and such. I am here if you need and dont want to just stop at a simple thank you. I truely mean it. HURAW and Semper fi! *salutes you*

# Jan 15, 2008 @ 6:48 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. SexBloodandMetal writes:

Semper Fi to that!

I'm not a marine (I'm most likely gonna be on the Army), but most of the men in my family have been soldiers, so I know where the respect is due. My dad and uncles were Marines, my uncle was in Desert Storm. My [paternal] grandfather was in the Army and went to Vietnam, got the Purple Heart, and died of cancer due to expoesure to Agent Orange. My great, great, great, great grandfather immigrated from Sweden and fought in the Union during the Civil War, where he married a runaway slave and started my [maternal] family (as well as with some Native Americans). But yeah, Mustaine has my respect. And I'll most likely end up in the Army and get sent to Iran when we get into it with them this time around...

# Jan 15, 2008 @ 9:19 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. SexBloodandMetal writes:

*in the Army

# Jan 15, 2008 @ 9:20 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. cruor writes:

While I am dont have any plans to join the army I have lots of friends going to the army, marines, navy, etc. and while I don't really support Bush but I support the troops that stick their neck out for us over here. Way to go Dave.

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# Jan 15, 2008 @ 9:27 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. Kalis_wrath writes:

My brother in law is Army, his cousin a Marine I believe, my ex boyfriend from high school and good friend still is Army, my best friend Sven is Army M.P of 17 years, my great uncle was Marine, my grandfather was a Marien in Ww2 and professer for the troops, my other grandfather served as a paratrooper, and my aunt is in the Army though I dont know what exactly she does, my William was a Marine and injured in training, my friend from high school is Air force. I think I have more, but not exactly sure. *WHEW* What a list just for those in the millitary.

# Jan 15, 2008 @ 9:40 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. smoothjazz writes:

well ill be damned. much more of a military pedigree on this site than i thought. thanks for the support from all of you in the civilian world. your words of encouragement make our job worthwhile.

2nd lieutenant, united states army rangers

# Jan 16, 2008 @ 1:57 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. darenluster writes:

Kalis-wrath - even as a canadian i am VERY american at heart. my father is from nebraska. he was in the navy and participated in that cuban blockade back in the early 60's. i am SOOO dead against the terrorism and ANY attack on north americans HERE and abroad. I FULLY support ALL the TROOPS that risk their LIVES FOR US on a daily basis - including police and fire dept. during a national crisis - my HEART and sincere THANKS goes out to EVERYONE !!! now, Kalis....why the 'wrath' ? what is it in life or 'religion' that made you take on the name 'wrath' and 666? ...if you don't mind me asking?

# Jan 16, 2008 @ 10:28 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. FocusShift writes:

Hey we might disagree what metal we like on this site but you'd have to be a straight up a$$hole to not respect what the armed forces have to do and go through. Support the war or not, the soldiers are doing what they're ordered and they need to know they have a country of people that love and miss them and want them safely returned.

I could see a metal/hardcore fest to support the troops doing very well.

# Jan 16, 2008 @ 12:10 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. GOD writes:

I always thought Dave was a little "Anti-war"......Im completly Anti-war and I do not support the Marines, the navy or America for that matter.....what ever happend to the f*** you all attitude in metal? toys for tots? Really Dave? f*** I hate whats happining to the metal scene.....

# Jan 16, 2008 @ 12:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. Diamond Oz writes:

That's actually a really good idea Focus, a fest to support the troops would be a great idea. I read in the paper today that injured British forces coming back from the Middle East will be getting more compensation than before. A step in the right direction on our part.

# Jan 16, 2008 @ 12:21 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. Kalis_wrath writes:

Darenluster, Kali is is a dark Hindu goddess of war and death, who rides into battle on a tiger. As a woman of the left hand path she is my patron goddess. The wrath part is then self explanitory. I have a tendancy to be wrathful towards my enemys and have never backed away from a battle I thought was worth fighting. War is in my blood as a Swede and Spanish Basque woman. The 666 is my lucky number and good things happen to me in 6's. I am a nice person to those who deserve it, but get in my bad side and Kali's wrath does rear her vengeful head. I am a Satanist first and formost and Lucifer knows he always comes first. >;:)
Now playing- Mayhem "A grand decloration of war"

# Jan 16, 2008 @ 12:32 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. Kalis_wrath writes:

Ahahahaha! God just inserted foot in f***ing a$$hole! f*** you god! If you were in my presance would have your head impailed on a spear already! I hope you die chocking on sh** because thats what I just saw flying out your vile and sick mouth! Hail unto the troops and Satan bless American!

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21. GOD writes:

I am a Satanist you f***ing twat....Being a Satanist means you are your own god, thusly I am God.....f*** Amerika and f*** you, c***!!!

# Jan 16, 2008 @ 12:59 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. GOD writes:

also...Mayhem sucks sh**, and euronomous got what the fag had coming...HAIL VARG!!! hahaha

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23. Kalis_wrath writes:

Well even more sh** flies out your mouth you Nazi lover! You are not a Satanist because a Satanist is not a pacifist p***y!

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24. GOD writes:

sh** goes in my mouth, I love eatin feces, drinking piss, blood, beating girls, filthy dirty free sex!!! that is the Satanist way, you Bush loving murderer!!!! Amerika is over rated and you are a poser for even calling yourself a satanist!!!! HAIL SATAN, HAIL THYSELF!!!!!! go ahead and call yourelf what you will, but just because you get info from the occult websites posted by jack off teens doesnt make you a satanist.....LONG LIVE NORWAY, c***!!!!

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25. cruor writes:

^Fag. Bush is a douche and YOU are the poser.

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26. cruor writes:

You're also a damn poser for saying your a satanist than hailing Varg Vikernes. I would think if you were a satanist you would hail Euronymous.

# Jan 16, 2008 @ 2:15 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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27. Kalis_wrath writes:

Hahahaha now GOD is a joke! Satanist dont hail raceism of any kind or homophobia. As far as Bush is conserned I dont like him because he is a draft doger and yet he starts a war. Anyone who knows about Satanism knows that! Also, a poser doesnt tatto an upside down cross with the Roaman numerals for 666 on her left ankle. Its about 8 inches tall aswell, but the design is not yet complete. More will be added.

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28. FocusShift writes:

Someone took Venom a little too seriously. Kali knows what she's talking about and has the decency to respect people whose duty is to put their life on the lines. Being a Satanist also comes with having a moral code, and frankly your moral code is sh** God. You're the one who sounds like a "jack off teen."

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29. Kalis_wrath writes:

And Satanism does not ever condul the harm of women, children or animals! Those are major sins!

# Jan 16, 2008 @ 3:21 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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30. cruor writes:

GOD doesnt know what satanism is

# Jan 16, 2008 @ 7:24 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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31. Kalis_wrath writes:

No Curor, he or she is not and what everyone in the Satanic community be it LaVeyan or Traditional cant stand! All Satanist hate this level of stupidity as it goes against our religous practices and dogma. This moron does not even know to cap the S in Satanist! Furthermore, Norway and Scandanavia as a whole are not pacifist and have a long standing history of war. To hail Norway is to hail everything Norwegian. FocusShift, thank you. :)

# Jan 16, 2008 @ 8:24 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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32. XWigglesX writes:

God is a c***.
Have some respect for the people who will one day be fighting for America when it is attacked by some other country.

# Jan 16, 2008 @ 9:01 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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33. darenluster writes:

hi Kalis_wrath...thanx for the background info to your title....but....i say this with respect and not to offend you or anyone else - satan is not your friend, though he would like you to believe that...please think about it.....Jesus died on the cross and paid the criminal penalty for our/your sins. HE gave His life for YOU whether you believe it or not - that my friend is TRUE LOVE and HE made it so simple for us - all we have to do is believe and accept what HE did for us on calvary's cross. HE became our 'pass over lamb' to END all those bloody animal sacrafices. all we must do is pick up our cross and FOLLOW HIM...this is true and PERFECT love...satan has NOTHING to offer you and he can't save anyone let alone himself ! just to let you know - there are still occults today that exist who worship satan one way or another and still perform satanic rituals, animal and even human sacrafices....now why would anybody want to belong to that??

# Jan 17, 2008 @ 12:11 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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34. Kalis_wrath writes:

That is the same things I have been told, but dont subcribe to it. I have been to a christian school, done bible studies and do know the religion well, but I did not ask Jesus to die for me nor would I. I think that if god IS his father is a poor excuse for a parent. Would you send your child to be sacrificed because of the rules you have imposed on the world? I would have told my father to shove it! Lucifer wanted just a little attention from what was supposed to be his best friend. I know I would get angry. I have studied every religion I have ever heard of and then some. Satanism is my home and has been all 23 years of my life ... And I am sworn to the dark forever.
Now playing- Watain "Sworn to the dark"

# Jan 17, 2008 @ 12:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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35. GOD writes:

all you f***s are talking about lavey Satanism....THe kiddie glove version. I am a REAL satanist, the blasphemer of christianity, hurting women and children is a sin of the CHRISTIAN religion, Satanism is the opposite of christianity, thus every little naughty thing i saw and do is far more satanic than anything you lavey p***ys could ever do....and as far as varg goes, Burzum simply makes far better music than mayhem and euronomous was a douchebag.....you are all such touchy little p***ys.... f*** you all in your filthy f***ing c***s!!!! hahah

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36. Kalis_wrath writes:

You are such an idiot GOD!

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37. GOD writes:

Kalis_wrath.......are you really this touchy about others beleifs? isnt the kiddie glove "Satanism" supposed to be about acceptance of others? just f*** off and go to iraq! I promise youll regret it when you get carbombed for tyrannical douchbag..... just shut up b****!

# Jan 17, 2008 @ 1:26 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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38. GOD writes:

Look at how off topic I made all you twats....haha my first comment was about Megadeth....Distracted easy?

# Jan 17, 2008 @ 1:28 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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39. GOD writes:

plus...All your little immature insults just gets me off so well! thank you all! this gets me up far better than snuff films and porn!!!! hahahah

# Jan 17, 2008 @ 1:33 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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40. cunt fuck writes:

i agree with GOD....Dare to be different!!!!!

# Jan 17, 2008 @ 1:41 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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41. Kalis_wrath writes:

GOD... Repeat after me... Ohwa tafoo lIam. Now repeat that a few times and you will know your true self. You are an idiot and were not the one who went off topic. Daren asked me a question and I answered it and your idiocy showed its self. You will be regreting your actions as they will land you in jail and guess what? They a$$ rape morons like you! How old are you anyway? My guess is less than 10 and am sure Satan has a special place for your kind... In Hitlers rotting arse!

# Jan 17, 2008 @ 2:21 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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42. cruor writes:

^No he is not being different he is a poser. GOD you are a poser and since we all know anyone can go to the internet and just type random sh** onto any forum you could be a lier aswell. You are a poser because you "hit" women and do all the sh** you say you do so that people will think you're evil and that is a poser, someone who acts a certain way so people will think he is something different than who he is. If you reject christianity fine no one cares even if you express hatred for it (like what Varg did when he burned chruches to the ground) but when you say you eat feces and drink piss proves no point than the fact that you are a poser.

# Jan 17, 2008 @ 2:31 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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43. smoothjazz writes:

War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight for, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature, and has no chance of being free unless made or kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. - John Stuart Mills

# Jan 17, 2008 @ 2:45 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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44. Kalis_wrath writes:

I like that quote Smoothjazz. Very well said and very true. My family, friends, and music are very much worth war and would protect them with everything I have... including my life.

# Jan 17, 2008 @ 6:46 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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45. cruor writes:

My family, my friends, and the way this country use to be before the 1950s was worth fighting for. I would've fought in any ACTUAL war this country has ever had.

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46. smoothjazz writes:

soldiers dont have the luxury of choosing regardless of any international situation or what political feelings we have. even though we may not agree with whats going on in the world and we may feel any certain war isnt worth it, we do our duty, no matter what.

# Jan 17, 2008 @ 8:17 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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47. Terminator writes:

^but they do possess the luxury to choose to be soldiers, and in doing so, accept all risks and situations they may be thrown into.

# Jan 17, 2008 @ 8:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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48. FocusShift writes:

Not always Terminator. Sometimes it's their only option to pay for college and higher education, then something like this happens and they're stuck getting their asses blown off. And the soldiers who sign up because they legitimately want to be soldiers put their faith in their government not to use them for waste like our current US government has.

# Jan 17, 2008 @ 8:57 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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49. Kalis_wrath writes:

This is may sound a tad harsh, but I wish they would just nuke The Middle East! Bring back our men and women of the U.S millitary and the forigen allies and just send them a nuke. For thousands of years The Middle East has been not just a small drama fest, but a VERY huge one and its not going to get even the slightest better. The ammount of lives lost due to the Islamic, Muslim, Christian and Jewish wars is more than the ammount of lives lost in every war in the entire history of the human race. My soulution will end it once and for all! Even the children are being effected too! They are being trained to kill people the moment they are strong enough to pick up a wepon.

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50. Terminator writes:

^no, that won't solve anything except adding to those death totals. if not religion, then a new excuse will arise shed blood. man will always find a reason not to like and to kill those that differ.

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51. Kalis_wrath writes:

I fully agree with post 48 and 46. Being a soldier is what saves alot of people from being on the streets or jail.

# Jan 17, 2008 @ 9:27 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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52. atheist writes:

no religion = less war. christians and satanists are both lame. fair play to soldiers n sh**, but if there was no religion it would b one less thing to fight about. why mot just believe in the real world? cant wait to see megadeth in feb!!!!

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53. Kalis_wrath writes:

You maybe right, but it would decrease the number of people who cause the drama by alot. I think atleast.

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54. Terminator writes:

then something else would just replace religion. like natural resources or world-rivalries. territory and irresponsible/maniacal leaders are more of a problem than religion. religion is often the cover to the masses to give meaning to often unrelated acts of violence.

# Jan 17, 2008 @ 9:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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55. XWigglesX writes:

I agree with atheist.
I am joining the army (Australian) next year. But from what I understand the structure of it is alot different and they take better care of you after combat or when you retire than the American army.
The root cause of this current world war is Islam. If they had accepted Israel as a nation instead of trying to destroy it then they wouldn't have brought countries like America into a war which its people clearly have the stomach for. People need to accept that the troops are there to saty so they should be supported.

# Jan 17, 2008 @ 9:49 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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56. Kalis_wrath writes:

Um... Atheist, Satanist have nothing to do with the war in the Middle East. It started when the Jews crucified Jesus and you would know this if you had payed attention in history class. Satanist and Christians by in large have not had very many casualties between each other and to my knowlage have never had a true war. On Earth atleast. Site me a history book that proves me wrong and I will gladly take that statement back. Lords of chaos may point out church burnings, but that to me really does not count as no one has been killed or injured.

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57. Terminator writes:

do you even know what your talking about? america created isreal. pretty ignorant comment right there (well, the second part of it concerning islam). if iran invaded your home town and kept troops there in excess of five years, and i told you to accept that those troops are there to stay so you need to support them, i willing to bet you'd get pretty p***ed off.

# Jan 17, 2008 @ 9:56 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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58. Terminator writes:

post 57 directed at post 55

post 56 history books are all relative and are judgemental on usually one perspective. and here's your example, the salem witch trials. though witch hunts may not have been a military struggle, thousands of innocents were convicted and executed for "witchcraft" which was directly linked to satanism. the christians have been at war with the devil the church came into existance.

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59. Kalis_wrath writes:

O.k my phone cuts the convo off at post 60 and dont have a real computer so if I dont answer your post its because of that. I have listed my email if you wish to continue speaking to me about this or anything else. I wanted to let you know that I am not just bailing on this.

# Jan 17, 2008 @ 10:03 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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60. cruor writes:

"thousands of innocents were convicted and executed for "witchcraft" which was directly linked to satanism"

They usually werent satanists but pagans practicing their religion.

Kalis_Wrath Lords of Chaos was a bullsh** book full of lies.

# Jan 17, 2008 @ 11:16 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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61. Terminator writes:

yeah they were pagans, but they were often charged as being possessed by satan or being an affiliate of satan...i should have made that clearer.

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62. darenluster writes:

Kalis_wrath...ok...i respect your opinion ...though the way i see it is this : man created religion and not GOD...we made a mess of things since the beginning of creation here on earth...sin, violence, war, etc...is in our fallen nature - part of our natural instinct because we are totally depraved. we use the excuse of 'religion' or whatever just to make war - we use anything for a pretext to justify our actions esp. when they are un-justifiable....the problem with this world is not Bush or america or islam or christianity or even satanism - it is us - mankind in general and as a whole......for sure this is GOD's universe and HE has HIS laws - just like in our society where we have government, court of law and civil laws to abide by...it works the same way with GOD and if you ask me WE all deserve hell - every single man that ever existed (romans 3:23) and its mind-boggling why ANYONE would want to save us - but GOD does (john 3:16)....if we should be angry - we should only be angry AT OURSELVES because we created this mess - thank GOD HE provided a way out (romans 6:23) : )

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63. FocusShift writes:

How can you be sure god is a male there buddy? You're talking from a very Christian heavy perspective and that's not a majority of the world's religion. The funny thing is your faith is a result of where you were born more than likely. If you lived in India or China or Iraq, you would not have the same beliefs you have now. It's facts such as those which give evidence to religion and god being a matter of opinion and not fact. Religion is a organization to worship the sacred created by man. The sacred was deemed so to maintain a particular order within that community (ex: the Catholic church's non-ordation of women to keep men with the power inside that religion).

So saying that we can only blame ourselves and not god, which is created by man, is a rather ignorant fundamentalist thing to say.

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64. darenluster writes:

hi FocusShift...i know you might think i have a 'heavy' christian perspective BUT whats wrong with that ? i like everything 'heavy' - my Christianity and my metal esp. ; ) i know its not the majority of the world's belief - in fact - true Biblical Christianity is VERY UNpopular....call it UNDERGROUND if you like - even Alice Cooper said : ' if you want to be a rebel - BE A CHRISTIAN ! ' ...remember JESUS said in the gospel of matthew that ' WIDE is the door that leads to hell and NARROW is the door that leads to heaven - and very FEW shall find it ' (paraphrased) .....so that being said - its not an issue of majority or mainstream - but - JESUS....HE is the way , the truth and the life and no one can go to GOD without going through JESUS first (john 14:6 paraphrased) ....as far as you saying ''it is an ignorant fundementalist thing to say'' its ok....i can take the heat lolll....but just remember that YOU said '' GOD is a matter of opinion'' .....so LET ME HAVE my opinion - i am not FORCING my opinion on you or anyone - this is merely an EXCHANGE of opinions....AGAIN, don't say that i am IGNORANT just because i have an opinion...i am sure you are MATURE enough to understand this....likewise i won't say that YOUR OPINION is ignorant as well.....WE CAN exchange ideas and opinions and we can agree or disagree with each other without labeling one another IGNORANT.....for some i am a fundementalist or a fundeMETAList or a fundeMENTAList or even a FUNNYmentalist - what ever the case may be - it doesn't matter to me - we are FREE to choose and i chose eternal life through JESUS CHRIST (john 3:16)

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65. smoothjazz writes:

"How can you be sure god is a male there buddy? You're talking from a very Christian heavy perspective and that's not a majority of the world's religion."
I'm sorry focus shift but youre wrong on this one. christianity is the largest of the world religions at 33%. islam is second at 20%. and its not really a heavy christian perspective as all the abrahamic religions have the same foundation. as for whether god is male or not, abrahamic religions agree he is due to him creating adam in his image (MAN) and creating woman from adam. also we ARE to blame because whether you believe in God or not, we have the power of free will and make our own decisions. you cant blame God for that. and there is no use being angry at ourselves either darenluster. there is enough anger in the world to cover that.

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66. FocusShift writes:

33% is not a majority my friend. More than two thirds of the population is NOT Christian. And Christianity is so segmented within that 33% that they don't all agree on the same things. You forget to mention that ancient Hebrew religions also contained a female counterpart and equivalent to "god." And the mentioning of new testament scripture is more Christian than any other religion, no?

As for my comment to you Daren, you say we're all open to our own opinion and I agree. But your first comment (in direction towards Kali) bothered me to the extent that you include our actions and beliefs in something of your own which we do not believe. The reason I said it was an ignorant fundamentalist belief was not because you're ignorant for having that belief, but the belief itself is ignorant of the entire history of the world.

The Bible is words my friend. Leave a Bible in nature and the wind and rain will destroy those words, remember that.

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67. smoothjazz writes:

no but its the single largest world religion and combined with the other 2, religions with abrahamic roots DO make up the majority of the world. thats the point i was getting at. and yes a bible will fade in nature, but man has not and will not let it. are their beliefs really so offensive to you? what makes your version of the "truth" worse than your version of the "truth". i dont want to get into a faith vs atheist debate. but just think about that. nobody will know for sure until we die whether there is a God or just nothing.

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68. FocusShift writes:

Would be hard to get into a faith vs atheist debate with me because I'm not atheistic.

But that's what I'm saying. You cannot be sure, therefore mankind has to rely on themselves and take responsibility for whatever it does. What my problem was that "god has provided a way out" is an excuse so many people live by so they don't have to take responsibility for what is happening.

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69. txmetalhead writes:

Black Metal sucks! That is the worst type of metal music known to man. It is stupid - I like, maybe, one black metal band...and actually the band only has black metal elements... Satanism is also for idiots, because the devil is always going to want something[your soul] in return. Not to mention I am against it. Black metal must have come from hell because it sucks Ass...lol

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70. smoothjazz writes:

yes no one can be sure. and maybe it is just an excuse, but if believing that God has a plan for everything and has a way out for you gets people through the day then so be it. ive seen little kids with their brains scattered on the walls, elderly peoples charred remains, body parts thrown in every direction. for me personally i have to believe that God has a way out and there is a higher plan so all this death and destruction isnt in vain. maybe it is just making an excuse to not take responsibility for what mankind does. but ultimately things are out of our control and humanity will always be the same.

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71. FocusShift writes:

Which is a hardcore shame that it will be that way.

txmetalhead, that was quite random. But you don't know what you speak of when you say Satanism. It's the simplest terms I can put it in Satanism is a call to follow a moral code because man is the measure of all things rather than a god. Satanists worship/respect (based on which sect of Satanism they belong to) Satan because of his willpower not to follow the rules of god. They are as inherently evil as a Christian or a Buddhist or a Muslim or a Jew or a Wiccan (which is to say they, like all of humanity, are not inherently evil; it is our actions that make any of us so).

As for black metal, it's a shame you don't like it. Enthrone Darkness Triumphant is some of the most beautiful metal made. And if you don't like the Satanic content of it, check out Antestor.

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72. cruor writes:

FocusShift Antestor has to be the only un-black metal band I like and Enthrone Darkness Triumphant is amazing.

txmetalhead black metal isn't for everybody. Not everybody is going to like black metal at some point and that is exactly how the original artists (Darkthrone, Emperor, Satyricon, Immortal, Burzum, Gorgoroth, etc.) that created it that like it. However it eventually became similar to that of death metal (which is what the original BM bands started the entire genre for as a rebellion against the "trendy" death metal bands that all sounded and looked the exact same) in which all the bands (with exceptions of course) looked exactly the same and sounded exactly the same and became a "trend" to do.

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73. smoothjazz writes:

it depends on what you all are talking about which makes quite a difference. i think txmetalhead meant literal devil worship ala glen benton, not the hollywood "i worship myself and am my own god" version of satanism.

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74. cruor writes:

^Devil Worship is actually the worshipping of specific demons in hell. Glen Benton by definition is a Theistic Satanist as that is the denomination of satanism that actually worships Satan

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75. Andrew writes:

"But that's what I'm saying. You cannot be sure, therefore mankind has to rely on themselves and take responsibility for whatever it does."

Focus Shift, it is called FAITH. People choose to believe what best makes sense to them because they have FAITH in their beliefs. Christians have FAITH in deliverance from sin through a relationship with Christ. Atheists have FAITH that God doesn't exsist. Satanists
have FAITH that they are their own God. Is there anything hard to understand about that? It is NOT an excuse to us christians because we have FAITH.

And by the way, Antestor rules, awesome band to whoever mentioned them. Frost Like Ashes is another really good Christian Black Metal band, but I think Crimson Moonlight is the best. The point is in all of this though, Go Marines, and to all who give their lives for us defending our country, and its awesome to see great musicians leading by example, and that George W Bush is FREAKIN AWESOME!!!!!

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76. FocusShift writes:

Faith is one thing, coping out is another. And I wouldn't call what Atheists have as Faith. Faith requires belief in the sacred and atheists hold all as the mundane.

And if tx was referring to eastern Satanism then he doesn't understand it. There is nothing evil about Eastern Satanism. Western Satanism on the other hand is the usage as Satan as a figurehead but is atheistic.

I'll leave my opinions on our president out of this. I can only handle arguing religion and politics in separate spheres, unfortunately they're often combined.

I can't say I'm too into the original black metal made, but more modern day melodic black metal like Dissection (Storm of the Light's Bane era) and Dimmu have taken the original black metal and made it beautiful and destructive.

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77. cruor writes:

^I'm sorta gettin sick of Dimmu (except the original Stormblast, Enthrone Darkness Triumpht, and Spiritiual Black Dimensions) but Dissection is a top 15 band for me and Storm of the Light's Bane is my 3rd fav. BM cd (behind Emperor's In The Nightside Eclipse and Immortal's Sons of Northern Darkness) but pure BM is my passion. I love the cold sound mixed with the incredibly fast tremelo picking and the tritones with the blast beats but the vocals are awesome. I love it when power bands incorporate a blackend vocal style as it eliminates the part of power metal i detest and replaces it with one of my fav. parts of my fav. genre.

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78. darenluster writes:

i would be very curious to read dave mustaines comments...he seems to be somewhat verbally silent concerning his faith even though he has some 'good works'. i glanced at some of his lyrics on his latest 'united abominations' cd and its basically all about GOD and mankind and evidently the Apocalypse. didn't get the chance to really look CLOSELY at the lyrics though - but i did enjoy the cd !

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79. cruor writes:

I thought of United Abominations as a more thrashy version of The System Has Failed

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80. FocusShift writes:

So you like bands such as Bodom, Norther, Kalmah, and Eternal Tears of Sorrow who play a power metal type of music with blackened vocals?

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