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Slipknot To Tour With Mudvayne And Disturbed?

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SLIPKNOT are rumored to be planning a Summer tour with DISTURBED and MUDVAYNE. No further details are currently available.

Source: SMN News

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196 Comments on "Slipknot To Tour With Mudvayne And Disturbed?"

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1. FocusShift writes:

Don't these Nu-Metal bands ever die?

# Dec 7, 2007 @ 3:33 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. menow writes:

sounds like a good show, ill b there

# Dec 7, 2007 @ 3:36 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. Vicarious_Intent writes:

I know most people think this would be the tour from hell, but I would NEVER miss the chance to see this and am quite pumped about it.

# Dec 7, 2007 @ 3:38 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. wrath5316 writes:

......

# Dec 7, 2007 @ 3:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. robw writes:

ill probably go, havnt seen any of them

# Dec 7, 2007 @ 3:52 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. iFeelpain writes:

seen em all. cant wait to see em again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

# Dec 7, 2007 @ 3:54 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. stephen writes:

Party like it's 2001!!

...Or not.

# Dec 7, 2007 @ 4:12 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. Liar,liar writes:

That would be an awsome show.

# Dec 7, 2007 @ 4:28 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. xXxBODOM OF MY HEARTxXx writes:

if this is true i am there and not missing it for the world...i have been waiting to see mudvayne for so long was going to see them with KoRn (reversed R) but i loathe KoRn with a passion...and as for slipknot they haven't toured forever...disturbed well lets just say they stole the show at ozzfest 2006...please be true!!!...

# Dec 7, 2007 @ 4:31 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. fearthedje writes:

this is honestly the sh**test show that i have ever heard of. is it called "the legends of cliched angst ridden numetal" or something? just add stone sour and the world would end in a circle jerk of suck.

# Dec 7, 2007 @ 7:30 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. Brittany* writes:

ok...Slipknot n Mudvayne i can see touring 2gether but not with Disturbed. some numetal aint bad but most of it is just aload of horsesh**. im a old school black/death metal fan. Morbid Angel, Mayhem, Behemoth. but i ADORE Slipknot they are something the world hasnt seen, i especially adore Joey but thats a whole different subject. i just dont get y Disturbed is touring with them unless their making a new record. which i doubt.

# Dec 7, 2007 @ 8:25 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. warlockzero writes:

im down for this. I'll be there. All three are amazing live bands and put on one hell of a show.

# Dec 7, 2007 @ 8:44 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. FocusShift writes:

Wow. This site will jump on any metalcore band that has a slight amount of popularity but there's still nu-metal worship going on?

# Dec 7, 2007 @ 9:11 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. menow writes:

hey brit, disturbed is making a new record

# Dec 7, 2007 @ 9:46 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. kallah writes:

Wow, 3 crappy a$$ bands touring together. Watching the paint dry sounds more fun.

And I agree with post 13. How can you guys bash metalcore over nu-metal?

# Dec 7, 2007 @ 10:36 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. fearthedje writes:

well, FocusShift, theres always those people who just dont grow out of the terrible sh** that they listened to in high/middle school, and those who just never got into the next most popular "underground" genre.

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17. Red_Chord writes:

Well, I am in, I like this tour

# Dec 7, 2007 @ 10:48 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. SlugEmperor writes:

this sounds like it could be awesome

# Dec 7, 2007 @ 11:27 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. SlugEmperor writes:

Focus shift you should shut the hell up about these bands considering you listen to corny sh** like Dark tranquility and candlemass, you guys listen to mainstream stuff too, and its not like i like every radio song, i like just certain tracks of each, and there is no way you can call Mudvayne's L.D. 50 bad or nu metal or mainstream, its such a great album.

# Dec 7, 2007 @ 11:32 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. iEATbabies writes:

hey come on man, eveybody's got their opinions and thats cool but dont dis dark tranquility. I admit that i like mudvayne, and i am tempted to check out a slipknot show cause of the crazy sh** i hear about them.

# Dec 8, 2007 @ 1:37 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. Public Execution writes:

SlugEmperor, you are out of your mind if you are calling Dark Tranquility "corny sh**." Dark Tranquility is one of the founding members of melodic death metal and the gothenburg style, which has had way more influence than these three bands. While I don't mind any of these bands, and I would consider going to the show, this isn't the greatest metal tour ever by any stretch of the imagination.

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22. Deartragedy88 writes:

If this is true, we don't have to worry about them being on Ozzfest. That's a plus.

# Dec 8, 2007 @ 5:01 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. FocusShift writes:

Hell I liked these bands at a point, but then I realized how much over hype their music was and how much lack of substance there really is.

And I don't recall complaining about people liking mainstream stuff, so your argument about me also liking popular music doesn't bother me.

# Dec 8, 2007 @ 10:13 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. texlonghorn10 writes:

yeah u did focusshift in a sarcastic way in post 1 and 13 sounds to me like your one of those people that think listening to underground or off the wall metal bands makes u kewl and u can still like bands u listened to in your younger days i grew up listening to pantera, slayer, metallica, motorhead, those bands have tons of popularity n hype and over hype so its not ok to listen to them now your "older' more mature in your words sounds like your still an immature pansy that dont know what they hell u like so u bash others for what they like to listen to. pretty shallow ,like alot of people on here grouping bands into catergories then slamming them cuz u listen to one type of music.thats one of the great things about music is the fact u write and play with an open mind just like you should listen with one as well y u may not like all types of metal dont hate if it aint your cup of tea its damn easy DONT LISTEN TO IT!!..GO BASH ON cRAP music thats what we should as metal fans be focused on and that emo garbage!!!

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25. fearthedje writes:

nice of you to discuss having an open mind and then go and bash rap texlonghorn10.

# Dec 8, 2007 @ 10:58 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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26. bigstick13 writes:

you KIDS, i weep for the future of all music fans. not a single one of you "hardcore fans" have a clue. you're all sheep. you're all unique, just like everyone else. you into what you're into and that's cool and all, but bashing what someone else is into just because you don't like it is just childlish. run along back to your rooms cry because mommy and daddy won't hug you and paint you walls black. as for me, if this tour happens, I'M THERE. the rest of you "metal experts" can stay home in front of you monitors and talk bout how this concert sucks just because your parents would give you your allowance in advance so you COULD go. go play the justin timberlake album i know you all have and 'cry me a river', b****.

# Dec 8, 2007 @ 11:32 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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27. bigstick13 writes:

and for those of you who like what you like because you like it and not because someone loser who will probably "TRY" to commit suicide because they "have issues" told you on some forum or whatever that this is metal and this is not, and will be at the concert if it happens, come find and have a beer with me.

# Dec 8, 2007 @ 11:37 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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28. FocusShift writes:

Hey bigstick13, you're real tough, trying to make me sound like a little emo/goth kid who hates life and everyone in it. If all this was really below you, then why the f*** are you wasting your time trying to insult us? I can pay for my own way to a show, hell I somehow managed to pay for Van Halen tickets without "crying to mommy and daddy." You enjoy your beer at your Slipknot show, hopefully you won't get into an accident and die on the way home.

And Texas, my comments had no sway about Nu-Metal being popular or not. I was commenting how this site will bash metalcore for being popular yet people on it will (still) defend a weak genre like Nu-Metal.

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29. cruor writes:

^agreed im not the biggest metalcore fan but rather metalcore then sh**ty nu metal

"corny sh** like Dark tranquility and candlemass, you guys listen to mainstream stuff too"

dark tranquillity and candlemass corny? no i believe slipknot is the corny fa**ots and how is Candlemass mainstream?

# Dec 8, 2007 @ 12:33 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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30. asdf writes:

oh gasp and weep for liking a band that an online community metal site disapproves of because of being popular and not being identical to every other band in their black/death metal genre and completely disregarding anyone else's opinion and attempting to eliminate any independent thought that "metal heads" have--god forbid someone like something different or *gasp* the society likes right?

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31. fearthedje writes:

bigstick, your comment is pretty funny seeing how your description of us "hardcore" fans is how i see most numetal fans. kids who dress "gothic" and talk about how much pain they have in their lives. get a clue dude. and if i was a sheep i would listen to crappy bands that hot topic and mainstream radio promote like slipknot, disturbed, and mudvayne and feel as though i was "different" because i listen to popular, yet heavier, mainstream music.

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32. stephen writes:

I still can't believe that it requires nine people to produce what Slipknot consider music.

The only band worth paying to see here is Mudvayne who, despite the trend of nu-metal fading away, have still managed to create halfway interesting music.

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33. Red_Chord writes:

stephen, I am still interested in this show, heck, a f***tard like you doesn't have any influence on me

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34. stephen writes:

Had I not had any influence on you, you would have simply ignored my post as opposed to taking the time to respond to it.

But by the same token, I'm responding to your comment as well, so... eh, nevermind. It's just funny as hell to see you get p***ed.

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35. BLACKDOG writes:

Believe it when I see it.

# Dec 8, 2007 @ 4:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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36. jimmybuko69 writes:

this should be sh**tacular... Slipknot is gonna f*** up Disturbed's and Mudvayne's reputations BIG TIME

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37. godlessrising writes:

WOW! sounds like a b**** metal tour

# Dec 8, 2007 @ 5:33 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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38. Dark_Funeral writes:

why dont you listen to mudvayne's song "TV Radio" then try to tell us the bands we like are gay.

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39. Agnostic Priest writes:

Ya well I just did listen to that song "TV Radio", and I must say those bands you like are gay lol-only joking

# Dec 8, 2007 @ 6:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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40. Dark_Funeral writes:

god when i was a fan of mudvayne i listened to the song "Just" and im just like yes! and then it went to "TV radio" and i was like wtf is this sh**.

OBITUARY IN ONE DAY!

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41. Red_Chord writes:

Stephen, I was not really p***ed, I am just trying to make you react and looks like it worked...

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42. seed of satan writes:

F*** yeah this bands rules!!! its gonna be a great tour

# Dec 8, 2007 @ 9:58 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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43. idonteatbabies writes:

i eat babies is a silly dilly

# Dec 8, 2007 @ 10:26 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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44. Arse writes:

I am a long time fan of many styles from thrash / power / MELODIC DEATH / EXTREME METALCORE and HARDCORE METAL (mostly German)

Mudvayne and Slipknot aren't anything special but give them a break, they're OK. Leave them and the fans alone. A couple of songs are enjoyable by most metal fans.

DISTURBED - is an awesome band one of the best modern clean vocal bands out there. Haters probably haven't given them a chance.

ILL NINO and SYSTEM OF A DOWN, HEAD CONTROL SYSTEM are excellent bands. Even new album from ALTER BRIDGE is excellent. None of them are good as KATATONIA of course ;)

Be sure to check out MACHINAE SUPREMACY too. Should appeal to fans of any metal

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45. iEATbabies writes:

Hey Dave

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46. SlugEmperor writes:

Focus shift, if you are looking at them lyrically there is a lot more substance... well i suppose of the songs that i like at least, i only like certain songs anyway... I only said something because i thought you were completely out of line, and slightly hypocritical.

# Dec 9, 2007 @ 12:37 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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47. SlugEmperor writes:

nu metal in its self is a superficial stupid term, it's thrown around like emo is, and people label anything they dont like nu metal.

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48. SlugEmperor writes:

although most bands labeled that i dont like much music from, if any. But still, it kind of bothers me.

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# Dec 9, 2007 @ 12:42 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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49. SlugEmperor writes:

by the way i love melodic death metal

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50. iEATbabies writes:

dark funeral, your lucky man. I assume that obituary show is the one at starland, i was dying to go to that but im broke cause of christmas.

# Dec 9, 2007 @ 12:44 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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51. SlugEmperor writes:

I think dark tranquility is like soilwork only slightly better, in the sense of how they set up songs, and kind of like the haunted. All three bands are talented, and i like soilwork riffs just their verse riffs usually suck, and the way the put together a song sounds bad. I suppose focus shift the actual song isnt bad though.

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52. SlugEmperor writes:

and i like one song from both the haunted and soilwork actually too, thats a bit odd.

# Dec 9, 2007 @ 12:49 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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53. FocusShift writes:

I know people just throw labels around but these three bands are all definitely of the Nu-Metal genre, and is it not my right to not like it? I was making an honest comment that I'm surprised that a lot of people on this site bash metalcore bands (usually because metalcore is popular, which was my point about wondering why they don't bash nu-metal then. I wasn't trying to be hypocritical by saying I don't listen to anything that is popular; I'm actually arguing against bashing a genre because it is popular).

Lyrically, I find Nu-Metal bands to pretty angst ridden. Sometimes its not a bad thing, it's good to listen to if you're in that kind of mood. But it's not something thats difficult to write. Some of Mudvayne and Disturbed's lyrics are good, Disturbed does a good job handling their religious lyrics (for or against). And I, like a lot of kids who were teens during 2001 was introduced into the world of metal from these bands. But after a while, once you shed the angst and the fascination of such "dark and heavy" bands, all thats left is really. . .simple riffs.

And as for being out of line, it's free reign on this site right? You're going to insult bands I (and others like) and I'm going to insult bands you (and others) like. It's like. But we're metalheads, we get over it and we enjoy what we want to enjoy. . .if we're not just following the (mall)crowds.

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54. Phill writes:

what gets me is these bands are very big metal bands... and yet people still pick on them, everyone wants to have there say but just remember this these three bands are making a hell of a lot more money then what most of us are making.. so do any of you have the possition to bag them???

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55. Cynic writes:

If you ask me the reason I dislike metalcore so much and don't really care about nu-metal is cause nu-metal is so blatently far from metal it doesn't even register with me. Where as metalcore bands ripping off and watering down the elements of bands that are sacred to me then posing as real metal... I can't even describe.

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56. FearTheReaper writes:

Is there any reason for these piece of sh** bands to be on here?

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57. SlugEmperor writes:

although i only like 4 songs from slipknot, and 1 from disturbed, i just think they are a bit more talented than people say, and i dont think mudvayne should be included in that genre at all, i always liked the label of alternative metal because i thought they fit it better, and nu-metal seemed to fit bands like Korn, and Coal Chamber better. But if you dont view these bands as even metal at all, then i suppose i can understand that label.

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58. FocusShift writes:

Phill, money and fame isn't everything. The reason most of these bands have a lot of money and fame is because they made really, easily accessible music that people so far outside the normal realm of metal got into and flocked to them. Thats not good music, thats good business.

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59. Dark_Funeral writes:

and people label anything they dont like nu metal.
-i label anything i dont like sh** actually..

I think dark tranquility is like soilwork only slightly better, in the sense of how they set up songs, and kind of like the haunted
-except they're all better then the 3 bands in the thread title :P. i listnd to slipknots 9.0 live cd and that solo in "pulse of the maggots" i think is called is just total bs live. random notes

obituary todaaaaay

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60. SlugEmperor writes:

maybe live, i've never heard it live, but i like that solo. In the original it isnt random notes, but i can imagine it being random notes live.

Focus shift you have a very good point, although i have to say i dont feel all radio played music is "good business", so much as good music. Although i definitely agree with you. But for arguments sake, originally slipknot did not expect to make any money off of their music, but as i hinted to before, i really dont like slipknot much, i just like four songs.

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61. Ty writes:

Sounds badas to me I would see all them live!

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62. Hardcore Drummer89 writes:

Slipknot, Mudayne, and Disturbed f***ing rock.....

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63. dee writes:

such a cliche line up.

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64. xXxBODOM OF MY HEARTxXx writes:

we have some comediands in here you guys should just stop posting sh** and spend your time in comedy clubs....

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65. O-Matron writes:

I personally am not a HUGE fan of either nu-metal/metalcore, althought I do appreciate certain songs/bands of both genres.

But both styles, in my opinion, are still metal! Its kinda in the same respect that Motley Crue and Ratt were "Glam Metal" 20 Years ago. Its metal its just a version of metal that is alittle different than some of the other forms.

There are plenty of subcategories in the Metal Genre. Nu-Metal and Metalcore happen to be 2 of them. Why they incite such controvery on this site is beyond me. Ive always been a fan of diversity in music which is one of the many reasons that I have been a metal head for as long as I have been (and believe me its been a long time).

Disturbed, Slipknot, and Muvayne all deserve their place on this site.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and that is mine, take it or leave it.

NP- Megadeth : In my darkest hour

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66. Dark_Funeral writes:

obituary beats the piss out of all 3 of these bands at once!

i saw obituary last night so damn good!

NP: Obituary- SLOWLY WE ROT

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67. godlessrising writes:

^^^^Your lucky bro Obituary f***in kicks ass......wish theyd come to albuquerque.

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68. Amba14yrs writes:

i have read all of these comments and it looks like big stick13 is the only person wiv a bloody brain i think your all so pathetic i have heard of slipknot and i like them i dont care wat n e of you idiots think i like them because I think there good.

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69. DO writes:

Disturbed and Mudayne are nothing special but Slipknot f***ing rock! ! ! Slipknot is sure a lot more thrash than nu!

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70. Arse writes:

Disturbed any day out of the 3. They are better. :P

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71. FocusShift writes:

Did you really say Slipknot was Thrash? Nothing about them says Thrash. Groove? Maybe, but nothing even compared to the Groove Metal inspired by Pantera (which was an offshoot of thrash).

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72. DO writes:

FocusShift, their best songs like People=sh**, Disasterpice, Left Behind, Heretic Anthem, Before I Forget, Sic are very heavy and I don't know how can you compare Slipknot and Korn. Slipknot is much heavier!

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73. SlugEmperor writes:

hah, slipknot is not thrash or groove! although groove is a billion times closer. slipknot is not groove though. I would consider them alt. metal, but ... hmmm i couldnt consider them that... just they arent that similar, they really arent that rhythm oriented. Whats with the hating of mudvayne?

Thrash is yet another thrown around genre tittle; i once heard somebody call devildriver thrash!

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74. Dark_Funeral writes:

this is just a sh**ty nu metal tour.

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75. SlugEmperor writes:

hah you said that you label anything you dont like sh**ty and now you are labeling the tour sh**ty and nu metal, obviously i was on to a little more than you gave me credit for.

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76. xtempterx writes:

Dark_Funeral you must like all that death metal garbage.... Behemoth, Dark funeral lol ohh god... THIS TOUR IS GOING TO HAPPEN - ITS THE REVIVAL OF THE ______ TATTOO THE EARTH TOUR _______

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77. sYntaculAr writes:

Yea well my opinion is i dont like the idea of genres because it ruins ppls perspective on music ppl will look at music and say o its not metalcore or o its not black metal i cant lisin to it and thats a crock a sh** also music is suposed to be the artist expressing wut they feel be it religion politic or just random crap and i dont think its right to catagorize that well thats my opinion and to anyone who red this wether your response is good or bad thanks for reading it anyway
np lamb of god what ive become

# Dec 12, 2007 @ 9:38 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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78. FocusShift writes:

Ugh. I wish people would at least learn to type and spell correctly, maybe I'd respect their opinions more.

Labels are going to happen. Break down the music of similar sounding bands and find their key elements, they're usually the same. Thus the idea of a genre is formed. All three bands share similarities with other nu-metal bands and are going to be classified as said genre. Genres make life easier when looking for bands to listen to and not listen to. It's close minded people who won't listen to something because it's not something particular or it is something particular they don't like (and yes, I'll admit I am close minded against Nu-Metal, but at least I've given it a try).

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79. Dark_Funeral writes:

wowowowow post 76. you are so incorrect.

any death metal guitarist is more talanted then slipknot mudvayne and disturd's guitarists combined.
the only band that takes the credit with best bassist is ryan from mudvayne cuz he's nuts
drummers? disturds drummer isnt good at all. mudvaynes drummer, meh. joey jordisen is good but OVERRATED. hellhammer is better then him.

dont get me started on frontmen. corey from slipknot sucks balls now. he cant scream for sh** and he sounds terrile live(i used to own 9.0 live cds). David draimen has no range. he sucks a$$ and just throws hissy fits on stage when he gets hit with garbage. Chad gray is a talented frontman though, he has much vocal range and i give himcredit.

slug emperor, why dont you just try to monopolize on everyone else's posts as well. so what if i feel like labeling sh** even though i said i like to call it sh**. did i say sh** when i said "what a sh**ty nu metal tour"? of course i did.

finally, tempest, why dont you tell us what good music is then you stupid c***. go shop at hot topic you silly mall goth.

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80. Cynic writes:

Man I should start saving some of my posts somewhere so I can just whip out answers to generic complaints like sYntaculAr's. Why do the only people who complain about genre's like crap music? :P

I thought Mudvayne had some pretty good stuff on "The End of All Things to Come" but re-listening to "L.D. 50" the other day... could some of that be any more "Hey ya'll JUMP DA FUK UP!"

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81. stephen writes:

Dark Funeral makes some good points. Here are a few of mine.

-Mudvayne are indeed a decent band for the music they make. They completely put the other two bands on this tour to shame.
-Corey Taylor's voice sounded better when he was an alcoholic. It may not be PC but it's the truth.
-David Draiman's voice live is simply embarassing.
-All three of these bands sounded better to me back when they first started. Maybe it's because none of them have been able to make the same caliber music they made in their earlier days. Or perhaps I've simply grown out of this style of music. Who knows?

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82. Fuck a name writes:

I have actually wondered why this concert was never done before. all it needs is Korn and Godsmack and the cliche is complete. I do thoroughly enjoy Slipknot, but the only reason they sound so "heavy" is because they tune down their guitars so much. Besides, the only reason to go to this concert, in my opinion, is to beat the sh** out of a LOT of p***ies in the mosh pits. Mudvayne and Disturbed are...o.k... but highly overrated. Talented, but overrated.

And whoever the f*** called Slipknot Thrash metal is a f***in idiot and an insult to the human race. That is my favorite genre of Metal right now and am hoping to see it's revival in the coming years with bands like this:

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83. Hardcore Drummer 89 writes:

I like every single type of metal music out there.........i dont judge on the genres of music.....Metal f***in rules...

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84. SlipKnoT Fan17 writes:

DUDE CAN"T WAIT FOR SUMMER NOW i think that slipknot will throw a kick butt show

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85. woot writes:

well... i wish people woul stop with this "nu metal" sh** there is no sutch thing tell me what linkin park have in common with slipknot huh? or what papa roach have in common with mudvayne lol its all the media putting evreything into one geanra to create a trend to make more money none of this these so called sub genra trends exist like this metalcore sh** seriosly its all just metal and thats that anywayz i only like mudvayne on that line up but slipknot are entertaining live well they was but when subliminal verses came out that entire tour was a waste of time

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86. Dark_Funeral writes:

wow idiot. go listen to slipknot's "spit it out" and then any linkin park song and tell me that they dont have somthing in common. 'tard. papa roach is alternative rock, mudvayne is hard rock. once again an uneducated mallgoth is just talking out of his ass. Why dont you add some punctuation in your posts so we can actually understand what you're talking about?I have a hard time reading unintellegent jumbles of bs. nu metal is a label, and slipknot/mudvayne/disturbed all fall into that catagory. ACTUALLY i wouldnt even call disturbed metal, they're bad.

I would've gone to see lamb of god and shadows fall then i would've left. slipknot is the sh**tiest live band ever, next to dragon force.

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87. Cynic writes:

Personally I don't consider nu-metal or metalcore to be sub-genre's of metal, rather fusion genres. Where as black, death, thrash, doom, power, prog, heavy etc I see as sub-genres.

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88. DO writes:

Dark_Funeral, go listen to slipknot's people=sh**, heretic anthem, disasterpiece, left behind, before i forget and tell me what these songs have in common with linkin park!

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89. Terminator writes:

^they suck? was i close?

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90. DO writes:

No, you suck! SLIPKNOT is one of the biggest metal band, so you can love them or hate them but they are sill one of the greatest!

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91. stephen writes:

Terminator was indeed correct.

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92. COB writes:

DO is right. I'm not a big fan but you're just f***ing stupid if you say that there is no good song from slipknot and you can't say that they aren't big.
CHILDREN OF f***ing BODOM!!!

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93. Cynic writes:

Lol, few sites have an IP logger - Why? Why?! It's great to separate out the monkeys from metalheads.

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94. SlugEmperor writes:

I love genres, considering i like music like atmospheric sludge, and a lot of ambient stuff like post-metal, at the same time as a ton of other metal, and non metal genres, its a good way to see what kinds of people listen to what you listen to, and to better understand what you are hearing. I just feel sometimes genres are no longer based sound, but on bias, thats all. And yeah, you shouldnt base what you listen to by genre, they just are helpful.

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95. godlessrising writes:

My previous comment still stands, this is a b**** metal tour(as in horribly sh**y)
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96. XWigglesX writes:

Slipknot might be one of the biggest metal bands but they sure as hell are not "one of the greatest". They wouldn't be able to stand upto bands like Lamb of God, Mastodon or Gojira.
But they do have some ok songs, People=sh** or Liberate are actually pretty good songs.

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97. Dark_Funeral writes:

lol DO/COB do you like to agree with yourself on a regular basis? you're not a metalhead. get off this site.

-and yes, f*** sh**snot

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98. DO writes:

Dark_Funeral, get off your mouth from my c***!

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99. Dark_Funeral writes:

get off my mouth from............wow. go to school and learn english. dumb mallgoth

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100. DO writes:

Your mom is good teacher, but all she speaks is f*** ME HARDER, HARDER! ! !

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101. cruor writes:

"Dark_Funeral, get off your mouth from my c***!"

someone needs to go back to 1st grade

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102. stephen writes:

To DO: Thainkks youuu 4 teacheeng me proppr spellllleeng &&& gggrammmar.

f***ing dunce.

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103. DO writes:

I DON'T GIVE A f*** ABOUT YOUR f***ING GRAMMAR! ! ! ALL YOU f***ERS CAN SUCK MY BIG HAIRY BALLS

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104. Mitchell writes:

I still enjoy mudvayne and slipknot, not as much lost and found though. but regardless they have unique music. they may be metal and may be alot of things. good metal is not only has an edge but is unique. thats what happened in the 80's with the hair bands was the copy cat things. same with drowning pool with the first light metal cd was good and original but with each new lead singer they try harder to look back instead of changin into something new. disturbed used to be good but haven't changed enough lately. they promise to change alot for their new album . well i persnally will listen and see. as for the whole nu-metal distinction only ratm and early korn can be grouped in that. sure limp biski copied it to some extent but they had no message in their music and vouldn't change thus we no one listens to it anymore. new mudvayne could be intresting they always make the effort to do new things and cory talyor's little antrax stint should change the already awesome but f-ed up mix that is slipknot and could be good or bad, of course if he could not destroy is larynx like allways.if metal is anything it is hard, you can mosh to, head bang and doesn't sound like anybody elses sh**. system of a down, ratm, korn and slipknot at all times sound like rap or other urban music but sound totally unalike and they are head banging music so regardless they are metal. metal is more of a vague catagory then rap, country or hip-hop. the only thing that compares to metal in the vagueness is pop which is the opposite of metal because it is meant to be listened to with a different ear and sound soft, smooth and are full of hope while metal is realist and angry. hell by the vague definition metal has DMX or mystical or any angry loud rapper being almost metal. but thankfully most rappers are emotionless in their rap and can't be classified as singers.

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105. DO writes:

f*** off

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106. DO writes:

Stop using my name!

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107. Cornbread writes:

I was intrested in going, but since so many people bash these bands my opinion has changed.

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108. SlugEmperor writes:

Although metal tends to be based off of anger, i wouldnt go as far as to say metal is angry, or about singing angry. I think its just a definite anger like passion that most metal carries.

# Dec 16, 2007 @ 10:16 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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109. SlugEmperor writes:

lol why would you change your opinion based on some people who disagree with you?

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110. SlugEmperor writes:

**talking about 107 not disagreeing in general

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111. Cornbread writes:

It was a joke

# Dec 16, 2007 @ 10:34 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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112. ZT writes:

My god, is it 2002 again?? lol. This should be interesting, though I regret that I didn't see Slipknot in '99 or '01(their BEST era). When I saw Mudvayne a few years ago, I thought they lost their fire. Disturbed, I thought, put on a really good show at the Music as A weapon tour 2..

All bullsh** aside, I'll be there!

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113. fearthedje writes:

since when the f*** was RATM numetal?

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114. SlugEmperor writes:

oh sorry, oh well, sarcasm is harder to read online

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115. someone from england writes:

f*** guys!! sometimes i feel like i need a degree in metal genres to post a comment on this site. i know what thrash and death metal r and such, but nu metal and metalcore dont seem to be anything apart from anything that isnt considered not mainstreatm. i dunno. im not gonna say whether i would see this tour or not cos im goona get abuse either way, dunno if its just a usa tour or whatever, but seriously....f***!!

i just discoversed 'at the gates' by the way ..... f***in awsome!!!!!!!!!!! my new favorate band. wish id got into them sooner

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116. RememberMetal? writes:

Wow.

Getting back on topic.

Disturbed blow, period.

About half of Slipknot, (Jordison in particular) are clever and gifted musicians, but Taylors lyrics ruin it more often than not. I will credit them for steering alot of kids toward real metal as they were they heaviest band from the whole nu-metal pack imho.

Then Mudvayne.
I like them. The bassist and the drummer are fantastic. Grey is a strong vocalist and his lyrics ring true. Unlike Cynic, I still enjoy L.D. 50 The rhythm vocals are a little offputting on the one or two tracks, but it could be far worse. Not a favorite band but certainly not an act I would speak negatively of either.

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117. xtempterx writes:

Dark_Funeral = Glad to see you know about the bands... Shows you follow their successful careers. Unlike struggling bands like Dark Funeral, and the crap you like... Some bands I like : ILL NINO , CHIMAIRA , MNEMIC , SOILWORK , STATIC-X, DIVINE HERESY , PANTERA, LOG , DEVILDRIVER, BLEED THE SKY , SOULFLY , SEPULTURA, ANGRA, GOJIRA As far as talent. Wow hellhammer is that a useless hammer... he is repetitive just like every death metal band in existence. You wanna hear riffs listen to the man DIMEBAG he can shred your crap music playing with one hand. RIP DIMEBAG!!!! How about you look up "Gojira Drum Solo" , "Aquiles Priester Running Alone" on youtube. then tell me the bands i like are untalented. Ppl lke you are the reason bands like mine exist... to prove talent is out there!!!

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118. cruor writes:

Dark Funeral a struggling band? you say it like they're tryin to be as big as Sepultura or Pantera when they are not trying to be big at all. Hellhammer a death metal drummer? Shows how much you know and it may sound repetitive with a genre of music u dont really know to well.

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119. Fuck a Name writes:

quote fearthedje-
since when the f*** was RATM numetal?

the most basic requirements of Nu-Metal are Rapping vocals and a dj, and generally guitars tuned down by a lot. Not sure about the other two, but they definetly rap. and they do it Better than any other rock/Metal band out there that tries to rap. Korn and Slipknot fit that description perfectly I believe. Limp Bizkit was just crap.

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120. fearthedje writes:

yea, they rap, thats about it. they play riffs, they dont rely on textures. rapping vocals are not required, neither is a dj. the most basic aspects of numetal are simple riffs, a reliance on bass, and lyrics that typically deal with angst. RATM doesnt have any of those features. true, numetal was influenced by funk metal bands like RATM and faith no more, but neither of those bands have any of the features of numetal besides the occasional rapping and driving bass lines.

# Dec 17, 2007 @ 10:42 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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121. cruor writes:

RATM is a rapcore band as nu metal bands typically dont have guitar solos and they actually have good riffs as opposed to korn who recycles the same one over and over again

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122. Dark_Funeral writes:

tempter....dont slam a genre you dont know anything about. you've probably only listened to 2 songs off in sorte diaboli(i love that cd), where it may seem like HH's drumming is repetitive to the common ear, but listen to his work with mayhem and your arguement that he isnt diverse is worth nil.

You list many talented bands that i enjoy listening to, iv seen many of them live. but you forgot about slayer strapping young lad metallica megadeth arch enemy opeth etc. maybe you dont like them? i wont ever know, im not tripping on the fact you didnt listen, just saying.

Im just glad you didnt put any hardcore on that list. i fvcking hate hardcore, and in jersey thats all we have besides some metal bands like godforbid(Seen them 3 times).

Hardcore is more repetitive then deathmetal or black metal. hardcore has no sub genres, while black and death metal does? do see what im getting at?

Thanks for your opinion. and dark funeral isnt a struggling band their singers voice is just failing due to age.

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123. fearthedje writes:

hardcore doesnt have subgenres? um metalcore? screamo? emo? hardcore punk? grindcore? thrash is based off of metal and hardcore and without thrash the faster types of metal would not exist.

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124. cruor writes:

Here are some sub genres of Hardcore u missed: Grunge; Horror Punk; Mathcore; and Power Violence. All genres of music have sub genres even hardcore

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125. timber_wolf writes:

I don't even listen to these bands this arguement is just f*cking funny. My question is WHAT THE f***!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if you don't like it then listen to your music, and why did you even look at this article? if you like it, thats your thing, but damn, thid bickering is annoying, yet strangly funny in some way. Why is everyone so obsessed with what everyone else listens to? and, if you're wondering my friend listens to Disturbed, and told me to stop by cause this arguement is just f*cking ridiculious and i would get a laugh out of it.
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126. FocusShift writes:

So many people make that argument. And for the 11th time, we do it because we can. This is a discussion site, we're allowed to discuss things we don't like.

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127. SlugEmperor writes:

good point, but here's a better one, if you don't like the argument then stay out of it. As your point would suggest. People bicker just like you are, theres nothing wrong with your statement, but just because you feel compelled to bicker about others bickering, others feel compelled to bicker about this article.

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128. XWigglesX writes:

Hardcore has plenty of sub-genres.
Moshcore
Grind
Horror punk
Mathcore
Metalcore and screamo are no sub genres of hardcore, they are sub genres of emo. Which comes from pop punk.

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129. XWigglesX writes:

Grunge a sub genre of hardcore?
Haha f*** off.
And whoever was b****ing about metalcore in their state and then saying they like God Forbid, they are metalcore too idiot.

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130. fearthedje writes:

emo is short for emotional hardcore. the new wave of "emo" isnt emo at all, its as you say it is, pop punk.

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131. cruor writes:

"Grunge a sub genre of hardcore?
Haha f*** off."

maybe not a sub genre but a fusion genre as grunge definetly has influences from hardcore.

"Metalcore and screamo are no sub genres of hardcore, they are sub genres of emo. Which comes from pop punk."

actually they arnt subgenres either they are fusion genres as metalcore is a combination of hardcore and metal and screamo is a combination of emo and hardcore and original emo is a subgenre of hardcore which is what fearthedje said its emotional hardcore. There is no difference between a new wave emo band and Good Charlotte (for example) with the exception of more emotional lyrics

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132. timber_wolf writes:

oh, and to the above, I realize this is a disscussion site and i encourage that, i was just remarking on how funny it was, and why your looked at the article if you didn't like it, and to Slug Emperor, i love this arguement its a great laugh, i never said i hate it.

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133. timber_wolf writes:

just because something is annoying doesnt mean i hate it, it just means its nagging and kinda just there

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134. O-Matron writes:

fusion genres sub genres whats the difference really? back in the 80's "crossover" was the term for bands like D.R.I., Suicidal Tendencies, and SOD, who were a "fusion" (as you like to call it) of thrash and Hardcore but no one really questioned the legitimacy of those bands. and I dont think its fair to question the legitimacy of the bands today that fall into this particular catrgory, they might not be what you/I/we like but that doesnt make them "not metal"

and nu-metal is a fusion of what? it was just heavy music with a modern sound (modern for the era 1999-2003).

Just my oipinion.

as far as emo, or screamo, or goth or any of that stuff, well I am not as familiar with any of those acts.

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135. SlugEmperor writes:

yeah lol, timber, i was just making point

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136. Cynic writes:

Wikipedia has a great article on nu-metal I suggest you read. It also funnily enough has an article on fusion genres, go figure. I have to disagree there's a pretty obvious difference between them and sub-genres.

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137. O-Matron writes:

I read the article and I also found on wikipedia a list of "Heavy Metal subgenres" and both Nu-Metal and Metalcore are listed.

Regardless we are just disputing semantics at this point my friend. we will just have to agree to disagree.

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138. haha writes:

"We don't know what solo's are FEST!" or just go with the norm "WESUCKFEST"

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139. godlike writes:

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140. Dark_Funeral writes:

well when i listen to some metalcore bands like god forbid for example i like what i hear.
when i listen to another everyday generic hardcoremakeasmuchnoiseaspossible band it pisses me off. its so boring!

excuse my comment of hardcore having no subgenres, i shouldnt be talking about a genre i dont know anything about. my apologies. i still hate hardcore kids though, and hardcore dancers. they're so lame

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141. cruor writes:

the difference between subgenres and fusion genres is that fusion genres combine 2 different genres of music like nu metal which combines heavy metal and either alternative or hip hop, metalcore is a combination of metal (mostly melodic death metal) and hardcore, grindcore is a combination of death metal and hardcore, and sludge metal is a combination of hardcore and doom metal

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142. chitown neil writes:

i heard bout this and had to see if it was true..... if this tour happens i would be one psyched Mother F***er...people would talk sh** if they ever heard these bands live, who cares about new school, old school metal that sh*ts all good, to get 3 bands like that together it would definitly be off the chain... I Say get them guys together the sooner the better.... = )>;

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143. SlugEmperor writes:

thanks cynic, i read it, i agree with parts and disagree with others. i kind of feel like if you want to base nu-metal on hip hop influence then why dont you just call it alt. metal, rap metal, hip hop metal, or anything else. I kind of feel like its just a label like New wave british. that is just a label for a time period not really genres, like the newest one they are adding with lamb of god and killswitch, and other bands that dont really fit in.

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144. outcast writes:

disturbed is awsome and slipknot is the best. just cause the 3 bands are different in style don't mean they can't tour.

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145. Andrew writes:

Ahem.... GAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY!!!!!! What a waste of life seeing these anal jousters perform.

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146. FUCK writes:

Slipknot is really good but they surely aren't my favourite metal band. Mudvayne and Disturbed are sh**! I don't know why would Slipknot wanna tour with them, they are lot heavier!

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147. Hardore Drummer 89 writes:

One question........Why is My Chemial Romance on this site, like thats not normal, stupid emo sh**s......i just cant believe that MCR on (Metalunderground) thats f***in retarded.....i hate emos,,,,go jerk off to MCR with ur razor bladez, u f***in fags. instead of cutting urselves, just die instead. that would be better.....MCR suck, and its bullsh** how theyre on this site....

# Dec 20, 2007 @ 9:35 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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148. Snootchie Bootchies writes:

1. Disturbed sucks.
2. Slipknot will always be KILLER live, plus the new sh** will be IOWA heavy.
3. Mudvayne f***ing rules, and I cant wait to hear new sh**.
So, this will be 2/3rds badass to go see, if they DO play.
Come to Canada b****es!

# Dec 20, 2007 @ 1:56 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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149. ????? writes:

hey b****es am back 2 kick ur a$$ all of the bands on tour or this tour sucks F#!% slipknot they are soft fags and disturbed are gay get down with the sickness its get down with fags cause they suck mudvayen you guys suck soft a$$ fags b****es go f*** of and die

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150. Jrizzle writes:

This would be cool if i was still in middle school

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151. FUCK writes:

WTF!? Middle school?

# Dec 21, 2007 @ 8:12 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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152. stoned king writes:

f*** hell ya im going to the mother f***in concert hopefuly its soon!!!!

# Dec 24, 2007 @ 11:37 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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153. stoned king writes:

slipknoooooottt mother f***ers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

# Dec 24, 2007 @ 11:40 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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154. stoned king writes:

if your 555 than your 666!!!

# Dec 24, 2007 @ 11:44 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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155. stoned king writes:

????? you f***in suck d*** b**** slipknooooooot mother f***ers!!!

# Dec 24, 2007 @ 11:48 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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156. stoned king writes:

086342157

# Dec 24, 2007 @ 11:50 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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157. kallah writes:

Oh geez, quit talkin to urself.

# Dec 24, 2007 @ 1:02 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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158. stephen writes:

8675309?

Is Slipknot kinda like Tommy Tutone?

# Dec 24, 2007 @ 1:47 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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159. crazedmind writes:

id go, these bands are still fun to listen to.

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160. godlessrising writes:

^^^^They're fun to listen to?

# Dec 24, 2007 @ 4:26 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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161. Dark_Funeral writes:

lol stonedking, you think sh**snot is good? get the cvm out of your ears dumbass. and stop talking to yourself.

At least we can be glad for in the near future these bands will stop making music! horray!

# Dec 25, 2007 @ 9:24 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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162. C writes:

so, Disturbed on tour with Slipknot? Interesting idea. Like putting Backstreet Boys on a tour with Slayer. Like I said, an interesting idea. Very much so.

# Dec 25, 2007 @ 11:46 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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163. whydoyoucaresooomuch?! writes:

All of you "music fans" that crack on so much about how "this sucks and that sucks" should just grow up and try to avoid the cliche ("oh what were they the ones that were cool in highschool?") crap and enjoy good music when you can and not harp on others just cause they can. I must say that I dont read or write on this kind of stuff EVER but you people are just frustrating to read...for the last time....

Sick show. I could do without Disturbed (just not personally into them, but all the power to ya if you are) and Mudvayne are intresting to say the least.
I'm not even a f****in musician but i a lot of you bas***ds sure wish you were...ooohh they're popular, that must mean they're CRAP...

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164. FocusShift writes:

Popularity to us doesn't make them crap, lack of talent or ability to write music makes them crap. Proof of popular bands with talent: Iron Maiden, Judas Priests, Slayer, Megadeth, Death, and there are many more talented popular bands.

But anyway, for the dozenth time, this is a discussion and opinion site where we are allowed to voice our opinions on bands we do and do not like. Stop letting your panties get in a twist, if you don't like discussion well then your s.o.l.

# Dec 26, 2007 @ 12:55 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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165. Dark_Funeral writes:

All of you "music fans" that crack on so much about how "this sucks and that sucks" should just grow up and try to avoid the cliche ("oh what were they the ones that were cool in highschool?")

i guess there ARE stupid people in the world! how about that?

# Dec 27, 2007 @ 12:47 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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166. stephen writes:

Post 163: Yeah, but these WERE the bands who were cool in high school (actually it was middle school for me but you get my point). And as for the attitude that popularity is a contrast to quality, I'm pretty sure no one actually thinks like that. If they do, they should listen to some Pink Floyd. And like FocusShift said, if you want popular METAL that's high-quality, check out some Iron Maiden.

Getting back to Disturbed, their album Believe was supposed to be a springboard for them to explore new artistic and musical avenues. Believe was somewhat different then the Sickness and gave them options for what direction they wanted to go in creatively. And what did they do for their next album? They went right back to the sound that got them initial fame. It's stifiling creatively and gets boring really fast for most fans. That's why it blows my mind that anyone actually wants to see them in concert.

Slipknot really aren't as special as people make them out to be. The fact that there are an army of men in jumpsuits and masks on the stage is just an attempt to capitalize on the shock-rock fad that Nine Inch Nails and Marilyn Manson had already milked dry in the early and mid 90's.

But this is where Mudvayne differ from the other two bands. When they realized that their image was overshadowing their music, they lost the overelaborate stage persona and focused on making interesting and provacative metal. This makes them the only band on this tour I'd actually pay to see.

# Dec 27, 2007 @ 6:04 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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167. stoned king writes:

slipknot is gonna tear that stage a f***in part and i will be there to help

# Dec 27, 2007 @ 9:32 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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168. corey tayler writes:

you are wrong f***ed and overraided i thank im gonna be sick and its all your falt this is the end of every thang you are the end of every thang aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh come on mother f***ers say it again, put it in your f***in head you mother f***in people its me corey from slipknot, one thang i want you to say, say it again say it again we wont die mother f***ers, peace my mother f***in fans.

# Dec 27, 2007 @ 9:48 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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169. Terminator writes:

^yeah, i could see corey taylor saying saying something like that. lol.

# Dec 28, 2007 @ 3:38 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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170. Cynic writes:

Were those spelling mistakes on purpose? Cuz damn that was funny lol!

# Dec 28, 2007 @ 5:41 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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171. corey tayler writes:

whats up f***ers you know i love my fans gust wait i have something for you f***ers its called my new plague, motherf***ers name where you want me to tour and i will see if i can, so here we go again motherf***er.

# Dec 29, 2007 @ 4:59 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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172. stephen writes:

Haha, misspelling his own name is the best part!

# Dec 29, 2007 @ 6:28 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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173. Terminator writes:

hey Cynic...congats on the promotion!

now playing: king diamond - welcome home

# Dec 29, 2007 @ 6:32 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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174. Jrizzle writes:

Lol at Cynics comment, and congrats on promotion

# Dec 29, 2007 @ 7:01 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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175. corey,sid,clown,mick writes:

mother f***ers whats up and whats down

# Dec 29, 2007 @ 11:25 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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176. thefunpalace writes:

im not even gonna touch the slipknot or mudvayne thing but disturbed is just crap,david gayman is a c***y bald idiot and they make just crappy music with terrible repetitive vocals. i used to be into bands like slipknot and mudvayne and i dont wanna put them down but theyre nothing more than gateway bands for 12 year olds just getting into metal

# Dec 29, 2007 @ 11:59 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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177. Dark_Funeral writes:

hey corey taylor.
YOUR VOCALS SUCK

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178. FocusShift writes:

Hey congrats Cynic!

# Dec 30, 2007 @ 1:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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179. Jrizzle writes:

I actually think Disturbed is the best of the three. But none of them are that great.

# Dec 30, 2007 @ 1:21 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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180. thefunpalace writes:

corey taylors heavy vocals suck now but i think he has a rele good melodic voice, i love stone sours soft stuff. it sh**s on anything slipknot does

# Dec 30, 2007 @ 1:58 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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181. outcast writes:

i have no clue why but when i think of disturbed i think of korn and when i think of korn i think of disturbed. the 3 bands don't really go together but than again thats cool cause u don't need 3 of the same bands playing together.

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182. meat magician writes:

WHERE THE F U C K IS TYPE O' WHEN YA NEED'EM??? sex with myself I LOVE IT!!!!!!

# Jan 1, 2008 @ 3:17 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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183. Dark_Funeral writes:

why dont they just add A7x and BFMV onto the bill so we can really call it "sh**fest"

# Jan 1, 2008 @ 8:24 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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184. Cynic writes:

Thanks guys I'll be writing some reviews for the mighty MU if I ever recover from my new years hangover ;)

Now Playing: Mercyful Fate - "Curse of the Pharoahs"

# Jan 1, 2008 @ 9:17 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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185. KainsRevival writes:

Reading this post i see that 90% of it is all about genre seperations and bashing on each on. Well I have to say is their may not be genres you like, but you must agree that there is things that you can take out of from each one that is great. Thats what makes metal so wonderful. There is so many diffrent ways you can shape and mold it. Some people may not like the way it is construed, but that is what has given metal its longtivety. And you guys should respect that. You cant do that in rap, country, r&b, only in metal can you bring in so many influences. Hail metal and its musical supremacy. Thats why it will be here forever.

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186. chaosmaggot writes:

cant wait for the tour.

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187. Dubman writes:

Will be one of the best HEAVY tours ever. FocusShift, go look at your teeny bop, Brittnay Spears, boy band site. MAGGOTS for life-----WAR SLIPKNOT!!

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188. fearthedje writes:

i really hope that comment about being heavy is a joke, seriously. slipknot is p***y metal.

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189. FocusShift writes:

Why in Satan's name would you assume that because I don't like Slipknot that I like teeny bop or boy bands? Sorry if I like Dissection over Disturbed, Suidakra over Slipknot, and Mercenary over Mudvayne.

# Jan 4, 2008 @ 7:12 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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190. Dark_Funeral writes:

too bad sh**snot slurp d***snot. Heaviest tour ever? what a joke.
Corey Taylor sucked ever since he stopped drinking.

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191. fearthedje writes:

corey taylor has always sucked.

# Jan 5, 2008 @ 12:44 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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192. Dark_Funeral writes:

coming from a person who used to listen to slipknot all the time, i believe his vocals just got flat out sh**ty on volume 3. so i was like whatever i have the live cd to look forward to. the live cd came out and it was f***ing terrible. He sucks on recording and he sucks live.

# Jan 5, 2008 @ 9:26 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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193. thefunpalace writes:

mudvayne has some decent songs but a great amountr of them are just sh**, and f*** disturbed and slipknot. whats the f***in point of having 9 people in a band, their music should be a lot better if they have that many member but instead they having f***ing turntables and some fat guy hitting a keg with a baseball bat

# Jan 5, 2008 @ 2:47 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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194. Dark_Funeral writes:

yeah when you listen to that song "TV Radio" by mudvayne you relieze how gay they've become...

# Jan 6, 2008 @ 12:03 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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195. chaosmaggot writes:

dont get me wrong i like metal thats why im on this site but Dark_Funeral actually has a point. some mudvayne songs are kick a$$ but most of the suck. but funeral u are kinda p***ing me off because slipknot is still to this day the s***. P.S. CANT WAIT TO HEAR SLIPKNOT LIVE.

# Jan 7, 2008 @ 11:09 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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196. Focusshift writes:

Spoken like a trve maggot. You added one too many words in your sentence though, slipknot is not THE sh**, but rather just sh**. Maybe if the members with some form of talent split off from the rest of them, you'd hear something decent.

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