B4MV and All That Remains Dates and Info

1. rk writes:

and the hits from these emo boybands just keep on coming. Clay Aikens favourite mallcore bands from what i heard.

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2. OriginalCharliesAngel writes:

ATR are class as f00k, was meant to see them the other week in edinburgh but the bastards cancelled >;_>;

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3. RAPE-ME!!! writes:

HEY>;>;>; FREE POTATOES AT APPLEBEES!!!!!!!!!!

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4. Zero 54 writes:

How the f**k are All that Remains an emo boyband, god damn you guys are so one dimensional, i laugh at you

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5. rk writes:

so are those hatebreed meets as i lay crying clones really metal? I laugh at your clueless a$$ too.

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6. ArchNemesis28 writes:

rk is a queef! All that Remains would kill all mallcore bands! It's Stupid kids like you, that up the word MALLCORE!!!!!!!!!

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7. DragonSlayer writes:

F*&% ALLYOU HATERS BULLET AND ALL THAT REMAINS ARE NOT EMO THERE LYRICS MIGHT BE JUST A LITLLE BIT BUT THERE SOLOS MAKE UP FOR IT!!!

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8. RAPE-ME!!! writes:

POTATOES ARE NOT EMO!!!!!!!!!!! YOU ARE!!!

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9. rk writes:

fukever cokkstains these motherfukkers are about as metal as andy gibb. Keep on trying. You'll never win.

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10. Zero 54 writes:

Their lyrics are not all emo their themes are about dermination, supremacy, not failing, passion, betrayal, self preservation, and focus. Same positive lyrics as Shadows Fall, Killswitch Engage, As I Lay Dying, Hatebreed, and Throwdown. I think emo music is also in the style in how you sing like Hawthrone Heights with the soft whinny boy voice (you know what i'm talking about), metalcore is not emo its f**king metal

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11. ArchNemesis28 writes:

see Zero 54 knows what he's talking about!

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12. iEATbabies writes:

I just saw these guys in jersey last week. Nobody there was by any means emo, and when B4MV started playing Creeping Death the place tore itself apart. Not the best show I've ever seen but one of the most physical, the guys in the pit were BIG and thats comming from someone who's 6'3

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13. rk writes:

jesus all those bands you mentioned are about as metal as Sting. Ohh watch out here comes the afi ninjas!!!! (farting)

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14. slayerdisciple writes:

my prob. with metalcore is that every f***in band sounds exactly the same as the last and too many bands add too many emo influences too their sound (one piece of emo is enough to kill it) i will admit i like KSE, Shadows Fall (not to into there new stuff), Darkest Hour (there newest one wasnt really metalcore), and God Forbid
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15. Zero 54 writes:

slayerdisciple i understand where you are coming from, but i think death metal kinda sounds the same in vocals, don't get me wroung i really do like death metal like Arch Enemy, Satyricon, Gojira, Amon Amarth, Early In Flames, to name a few but i love all those band because of the vocal range shifting, i guess the apeal of metalcore is in the postive lyrics and versitiy of the vocals like in Trivium's Ascendancy How they would go from brutal, to melodic chours, to solo, brutality, extended chours, brutal/solo finish. You see those patterns i think. i think with metalcore you find a balance between positive and negative emotions, because we deal with both constantly. i know what you mean with some those bands that borderline emo like Endwell, at times sound sometimes metal others the whiny emo boy voice happens, i would rather listen to Lamb of God or , i also think Shadows Fall and God Forbid are becoming more Trash influences these days their still metalcore. What makes an emo band is the image they project, not the lyrical content, but if a band sings a chours soft it does not make them emo nessarilly

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16. Cynic writes:

Zero 54 writes: "death metal like Arch Enemy, Satyricon" - Yeah that's the problem right there buddy. Try get some actual knowledge on death metal before you say the vocals all sound the same.

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17. rk writes:

Satyricon is bm/black n roll.

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18. Zero 54 writes:

I was just rattling off death metal bands i listen to. i know they are differnet subgenres like melodic death metal, blacken death metal, progressive death, and regional forms of death metal ie Scandinavian Death Metal etc.. i am not saying those two bands sound the same or have similiar lyrical content. I just think death metal vocals/growls aren't as ranged as metalcore vocals. Death Metal's vocals are more agressive and brutal, and a lot harder to master singing them.

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19. rk writes:

theyre just not as gay as mallcore vocals i mean listen to that fag from bums fellatating milli vanilli that homo sounds like he packs more fudge than Duncan HInes

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20. Cynic writes:

Yes it seems as normal someone has failed to read my/rks posts. Satyricon are f***ing black metal - The fact you think they're death shows a pretty big gap in your metal knowledge - Hence, I really don't take your critisizm of death metal vocals seriously. And what!? Metalcore barks are possibly the most bland vocal emotion possible.

Expressive/Ranged death metal vocals - Cynic, Obituary, Cryptopsy, Fear Factory (just early, and more industrial), Lykathea Aflame, hell even Morbid Angel on tracks like "God of Emptiness", Oxiplegatz (a wide margin but whatever), Gorguts etc... and as far as positive lyrics, metal is full of them.

"A domain of harmony
Captured past and future
A vision of reality
Divided structures, the higher senses, polarity around all creatures,
Increasing possibilities of self-discovery,
Energetic thoughts creating electricity"

Pestilence - "Personal Energy"

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21. Zero 54 writes:

look man i know the differences between death metal and black metal, black metal is an off chute of death metal, and i am not critizing death metal vocals i like death metal its f**king intense, its all my brother listens to, its fine that you don't prefer metalcore vocals but i think the genre has some good standouts, both of us are also making gerenalizations about broad genres of music both are f**king metal and both are alot better than nu metal

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22. slayerdisciple writes:

"i really do like death metal like Arch Enemy, Satyricon"
sorry man i get ur point that ur just listin bands u like that arnt exactly using clean vocals but when u call Satyricon death metal then wow and i have to jump on the wagon and remind u that they r black metal

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23. Cynic writes:

Ok Zero 54, I get you're not trying to critisize death metal, sorry. Tell you the truth I'd rather listen to nu-metal than metalcore, I really despise it.

"black metal is an off chute of death metal" - Not really, Bathory, Venom, King Diamond etc. were around as long as anyone.

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24. Zero 54 writes:

Cynic, Thats fine man, but not all metalcore has soft melodic chours like Blood Has Been Shed, Unearth, A Life Once Lost, Agony Scene, Newer In Flames or Heaven Shall Burn to name a few.

Those 3 Black Metal bands started in Late 1970's, thats when Death Metal formed around that time, touche, You really know what you talking about, im impressed. I always just figured black metal as a sub genre of Death, but i now agree their are too many differances, i guess it all demends on who you talk to.

My original point was i like heavier metal (ie Black and Death) as well as metalcore

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25. the antihippy writes:

other good metalcore: converge (more hardcore in later albums), botch, dillinger escape plan.

and zero, death metal isn't a sub-genre to black, but they share similiar roots i.e thrash metal.

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26. Zero 54 writes:

Yes they both got their roots from 1970's Trash, i agree they are seperate genres i agree that have similiar roots. I might have to checkout those bands

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27. slayerdisciple writes:

^wat the hell is 1970s thrash? depending on if u call venom thrash the first thrash cd was either welcome to hell or metallica's kill em all so either 1981 or 83 and dude 70s death metal? if u call possessed death metal the first time death metal emerged would be 85 if u dont call them death then it would be 87 with scream bloody gore
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28. Terminator writes:

the closest thing to '70s thrash that i can think of is motorhead. that's it. i'd hate to be a d*** Zero 54, but do some research about heavy metal before you post again. a great book that i would STRONGLY recommend you check out is Ian Christe's 'Sound of the Beast'. its heavy metal 101 and then some.

and not to keep beating a dead horse, but death metal and black metal are two totally separate SUB-genres. yes, you may be able to find some similarities between them, but that's because they belong to the same genre. everything in a sub-genre will have some similarities with other sub-genres in the same genre...duh...that's how their linked.

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29. Cynic writes:

It's quite funny to think that if you call Venom black metal, then in some way Black Metal preceeded Thrash. The truth is their is no exact date for anything, heavy metal moving to Thrash and co was a incremental process.

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30. Zero 54 writes:

This is an part of an article for wikipedia on trash metal, i was just bassing my assumptions off that, i was not alive when these bands formed i was just going from what i read here it seems that 1970's trash was exisitant but not popular or influencal until the early to mid 80's

Beginnings
1981 is seen as a critical year for the development of thrash metal, but work prior to 1981 helped shape the genre. Earlier influences on the genre include the 1975 Black Sabbath song "Symptom of the Universe", the first riff of the song is one of the earliest thrash riffs. The 1971 Black Sabbath songs Into the Void and Children of the Grave were also influential. Queen's "Stone Cold Crazy" from their 1974 album Sheer Heart Attack was unusually heavy and fast for the time and the song was covered years later by the thrash metal band Metallica. "Am I Evil" from Diamond Head's 1979 album Lightning to the Nations had a style similar to Stone Cold Crazy. German prog-metal band Night Sun had perhaps the fastest examples of early thrash metal appeared on the band's 1972 album Mournin' that featured the songs "Plastic Shotgun" and "Nightmare".

The Stooges early work had a profound influence on Motörhead. The songs "I Got a Right" and "Gimme Some Skin", released in 1973, utilized a simple and fast paced beat that metal and punk thrash music would later come to resemble.

Judas Priest's 1978 song "Exciter," from the Stained Class album provided direct influence upon the development of the genre. The fast kick-drum intro and fast guitar solos of the track were notorious for artists of the era. Judas Priest was not a thrash band themselves, but thrash bands like Slayer, Venom, Anthrax, Metallica, and Megadeth cite them as a major influence.

Motörhead's fast and aggressive music was a major influence on the genre. Motörhead's 1979 Overkill LP may have been the inspiration for the name of the New York based band[citation needed] In 1981 Overkill would write what is often considered the first thrash metal song: "The Beast Within". Soon after "The Beast Within" was released, a Southern California band named Leather Charm would write the song "Hit the Lights". Leather Charm was a short-lived band that would soon break up. The primary songwriter for Leather Charm, James Hetfield, formed Metallica which would go on to feature this song.

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31. Zero 54 writes:

You guys have really impressed me with your knowledge an these topics my hat goes off to you way to keep it f**king metal \m/

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32. the antihippy writes:

it's not that hard really. all you need is spare time and boredom.

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33. MindSlavor writes:

Dont forget any1, including my 3 year old son left alone at the keyboard, can submit "factual articles" to wikipedia. I dont know why people give that lame f***in site so much stock. Maybe because it has the suffix pedia at the end. Either way it blows and as often as not, the information on there is false/sceptical/theoretical.

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34. the antihippy writes:

it helped me through many a project, so i'm still sticking with it.

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35. Roadrunner writes:

Actually, Cream was the first band ever to be considered Heavy.

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36. dorkydarkchck writes:

im ith dragon slayer Bullet is not F#*% emo
they are the best

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37. thor hath risen writes:

wtf is the point of arguing with people on the internet? first yall are b****in about how emo mallcore is, then about influences, then thrash metal, and now wikipedia. no one's ever going to win, so what's the f***in point?..........................just curious, what the hell is mallcore?

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38. Zero 54 writes:

We exchanging opinoins and defending our own veiw points, its not about winning, more or less its a disscusion on the politcs of our industry, because we all love metal but not all its variations

Mallcore is a derogatory term or type casting for the several musical genres that may be considered metal or punk by the mainstream audience , but that are not considered so by the critics, bands often considered mallcore are My Chemical Romance Atreyu Slipknot Korn. Mallcore Kids are like Teenie Bobbers who hang out at the mall all day who act and like the music to fit in or to identify with, they are possers, emo or scence kids, and hot topic goths

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39. Edheadmaggot writes:

I've really got to say that B4MV are a f***ing piece of sh** c*** sucking fa**ot a$$ emo/pop mallcore loser band, seriously they are everything that is wrong with metal these days, f*** them I hate them, go die,
I LOVE SLAYER!!!!!

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40. DeathInEye writes:

Erm, Zero I think "identify" needs to either be explained or removed from your definition of a "mallcore" fan because I identify with, or relate to my favorite bands (Lamb of God, All Shall Perish, In Flames, Soilwork, Arch Enemy). That's the whole point of listening to or writing music. And I know none of my favorites are mallcore.

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41. Zero 54 writes:

i see what you mean,what i should of said is "who act and like the music to fit in to identify with peers/"click" crowd." I identify with all the music i listen to like Killswitch Engage, As I Lay Dying, Shadows Fall, God Forbid etc. You are exactly right none of those bands are mallcore and identifing with the listener is the whole point of writing music.

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42. rk writes:

Killswitch EnGAYge and As I lay Crying in my emoness are the eptiome of mallcore they are as metal as Stacy Ferguson. Total gayness to the 3rd power.

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43. the antihippy writes:

no........ killswitch engage and as i lay dying are bona fide second wave metalcore, generally regarded as the crappiest wave.

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44. Zero 54 writes:

Don't worry about it rk ive like both those band since 2003 long before all those teenie boopers liked them, both are metal bands dumba$$

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45. rk writes:

no you stupid thrift store clothes wearing fag. Those 2 scenecore bands are nowhere near being metal not even close. If these fags are metal then fugahzi is dc black metal. idiots.

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46. rofl writes:

rk u stupid f***, you dont know sh** about metal you retard. I dont like neither of these bands but doesnt change the fact that they are metal. May it be mallcore but thats pretty much the future of metal so get over it. Nobody gives a f*** what you think anyway so just stop spamming ur bs here. Your so tough since u can bash bands on the internet but IRL, i bet it would be a bit different.

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47. slayerdisciple writes:

^he doesnt know bout metal look at urself sayin they r the future of metal, KSE arnt metal but i like them and as i lay dying is the gayest thing since gay porn
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48. Cynic writes:

Crudely but well put slayerdisciple. As far as I see it, KSE are the beggars outside the kingdom of metal. Good for anyone who likes them, but they're metalcore.

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49. rk writes:

the future of metal? like Anall Nakrath? Year Of Desolation? Demiricous? Abysmal Dawn? and countless other young bands that are better than those makeup wearing pillow biters god you fuking kids are stupid.

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50. rk writes:

btw im currently doing combatives tng and and a sharpshooter with my m4 i can take care of myself thank you very much biitchboy.

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51. rofl writes:

uuuuh "i can use a gun" wow impressive, thats really gonna change the way ppl think about this topic. Just coz ur into Death Metal and dont respect any other kind of music doesnt mean u can go around running your mouth and bashing bands that really are good in their own genre. Just spare us the bullcrap.

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52. Zero 54 writes:

^Thanks rofl you kick a$$. I think Lamb of God, Arch Enemy, Killswitch Engage, Shadows Fall, Machine Head, Gojira, As I Lay Dying, Stone Sour are the Future in their respective genres

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53. rk writes:

lol both you motherfukkers eat more man mayo than commander sulu.

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54. slayerdisciple writes:

the future? none of those bands r the future (especially Stone Sour or As I Lay Dying) as Machine Head and Arch Enemy are just about past their prime and the material of Lamb of God, Shadows Fall and KSE is starting to deteriorate in quality however Gojira is young and still making good music so maybe them too but you gotta look to the bands rk mentioned in post 49 for the future of metal
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55. rofl writes:

of course man, those are great new bands and i'm not saying that kse and aild are the only future of metal, just a small part of it.

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56. the antihippy writes:

i can't recall any good metal bands right now that started around 2000, except maybe mastodon, but i don't really listen to them that much nowadays.

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57. Cynic writes:

Sunn 0))), Behold...the Arctopus, Nortt, Dragonforce, Khanate, Xasthur, Twisted Into Form, Agalloch, Alarum, Lykathea Aflame - This is pretty much all of the 99-07 bands I listen to now, (and Mastodon of course) but it's not a big list for sure. Evile's some pretty solid thrash though, wouldn't have come across them if not for MU.

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58. the antihippy writes:

don't like sunn 0))), and DF isn't really that intersing.

oh yeah, and the fantomas. but it seems as if they've been around forever though.

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59. Zero 54 writes:

Stone Sour is the Future of hard rock because Corey will continue Stone Sour long after Slipknot ends after this last album,Doomsday Machine and The Blackening prove those bands are not past their prime at all. As I Lay Dying and Killswitch Engage have stong mainstream fan bases from all kinds of people because of the message of their music/positive lyrics, and balance of beauty and brutallity. I love Shadows Fall and Lamb of God, both are in their Prime, (perhaps not in quality but i don't think so, never the less their influence and support bases exploded,) Lamb of God has become so big the last 2 years selling over 1.3 million records. Gojira and Trivium are both popular young bands and will be the future of metal. i have never heard of those bands rk mentioned i will have to check them out

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60. the antihippy writes:

hot cross and circle takes the square are the 2 best bands that came out during the 21st century, but they have nothing to do with metal though.

orphaned land came out quite awhile ago, but their last album was absolutely kickass it's unbelievable.

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61. the antihippy writes:

also, unearth is the future of metalcore imo.

also, opeth is still going strong so there's nothing to worry about there. =D

enslaved is still incredibly good so there's no worries there too.

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62. the antihippy writes:

sh**, how did i forget to mention horse the band? they rule in a gimmicky sort of way.

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63. slayerdisciple writes:

hell yea antihippy enslaved r f***in awesome, Zero54 i didnt say that Machine Head and Arch Enemy are past their primes i said they r comin their now, i wasnt expecting the Blackening (my new fav. machine head cd) to be as amazin as it was so they arnt past their prime yet, Arch Enemy put out Doomsday Device which had a couple of good songs on it but i really was expecting higher from amott but with Chris back in the band i have high hopes for the future, I know lamb of god has become popular im from richmond and have watched them since almost the begining but when a band like Lamb of God releases an album like Sacrement u have to wonder if their next cd is gonna be just as mediocre or worse or hopefully better

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64. Edheadmaggot writes:

did the antihippy just say that unearth are emo, they're not emo but are definately the best metalcore band and the future of metal, they'll be kicking a$$ long after KSE and AILD are dead. Lamb Of God's Sacrament is not a mediocre album at all, it's just an evolved sound from thier previous albums but the music is just as heavy and kicks just as much ass. Unearth's new album rules too

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65. Cynic writes:

I really don't care who's popular and who's in their prime - I/We care about metal. Bottom line, those are metalcore bands. This is a metal site, I think metalcore is sh**. Long live metal etc. Enslaved's not to bad from what I hear, my friends has Isa, I'll have to borrow it off him some time.

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66. the antihippy writes:

to edheadmaggot.

errrr........ i said "unearth are the future of metalcore imo".

and yes unearth rules. sancity of brothers has one of the most kickass riff i have ever heard.

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67. Roadrunner writes:

Why does everyone 13itch about BFMV, they have some really killer riffs, All That Remains is pretty kickass to, :)

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68. slayerdisciple writes:

Cynic u should check out Enslaved's earlier albums but Isa is an awesome album

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69. Cynic writes:

Will do. Though, it seems that at the moment the amount of black/viking/folk music is disproportionately filling up my music collection at the moment. I mean, I do like those genres and realise they're the in thing at the moment - But where's all the prog/death/thrash?! Any recommendations are welcome.

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70. DeathInEye writes:

I suppose I'll give my picks for the future of metal: Bleed the Sky, Scar Symmetry, All Shall Perish's predecessors will decimate, and I'm pretty sure Lamb of God, Meshuggah and Arch Enemy will continue shredding our ears for a while. 3 Inches of Blood and Six Feet Under will continue to pulverize. I know they're disliked but I agree that KsE, AILD, and Shadows Fall will stick around. I think Burn In Silence has a good future, as does The Agony Scene (maybe, if they still exist, I haven't heard any news about them). Graveworm is doing well and so are Draconian. This Ending is a good band. I think Gorgoroth has a future once they get passed imprisonments. Gojira have a huge future if they don't fvck it up. And so do Trivium.

Now I don't necessarily like all of those bands, but they are the future and I can't deny numbers.

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71. DeathInEye writes:

Heh I forgot Heaven Shall Burn. And as far as rock goes (even though this is a metal site) I think Stone Sour is right on. A long with 10 Years and Breaking Benjamin. Sevendust took over numetal for me.

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72. Cynic writes:

So basically you all think the future of metal is metalcore. Great. I think I might go kill myself now.

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73. DeathInEye writes:

I didn't say metal's complete future is metalcore. It's just involved. Kinda like how I have to live with hearing rap and country being in Iowa. Or how everyone asks about Slipknot. There's something to die over.... Seriously every metal band that comes from here now will compared to them.

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74. the antihippy writes:

metal will always be involved with hardcore punk one way or another.....

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75. the antihippy writes:

btw, the new sonata artica is pretty koolio. i can't get paid in full out of my head.

np:damiera-lessons.

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76. Cynic writes:

There is a mile difference between Minor Threat/Blag Flag roots of thrash metal and Gothen/core/whatever passes for Hardcore these days. My (male) flatmates are all Hardcore nuts and laugh at this sort of sh**.

Yeah, Sonata Arctica write some pretty catchy stuff, like "Ain't Your Fairytale". You listen to Manowar?

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77. the antihippy writes:

the only hardcore element in second wave metalcore nowadays is just breakdowns and some riffing anyway........ though if you want a good example of metallic hardcore, check out converge and botch. unearth are also really good, nothing really metalcore about them other than the breakdowns, and they use them really well.

oh, i've never heard anything of manowar, but the way some people describes them to me really put me off.

np: orphaned land-the kiss of babylon(the sin)

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78. the antihippy writes:

also, check out between the buried and me for some great progressive metalcore. they're more technical progressive death metal/grindcore/whatever nowadays anyway, but BTBAM still has some core elment in it.

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79. slayerdisciple writes:

manowar, hammerfall, and helloween r the only power metal bands i can stand (unless u count Iced Earth power metal)
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# May 27, 2007 @ 3:27 AM ET | IP Logged

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80. slayerdisciple writes:

and i love 3IOB

# May 27, 2007 @ 3:28 AM ET | IP Logged

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81. Cynic writes:

Don't let that put you off - I was the same but their cheesyness is more infectious than the plague. Listen to "Guyana (Cult Of The Damned)" (The song that got me hooked), Hail To England, Mountains - Hell pretty much all their stuff is quality. I have that Orphaned Land album too, not bad. Very Opethy.

I think modern MDM is boring and unoriginal, and any tint of post-hardcore in metal makes me wan't to smash things. Because of my dislike of Dillenger Escape Plan I doubt I'll warm to Converge or Botch (gut feeling here).

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# May 27, 2007 @ 3:34 AM ET | IP Logged

82. the antihippy writes:

well, one good thing converge and botch have against TDEP is the production, which doesn't make the guitars sound like a distorted mess. that's why the only TDEP i really like is the irony is a dead scene EP (also the fact that i'm a mike patton fanboy =P). much better vocals too. fits the music better.

still, if you haven't yet, check out BTBAM. they remind me of a more brutal and technical opeth.

also, the only power metal that i really like is sonata arctica.

# May 27, 2007 @ 4:43 AM ET | IP Logged

83. the antihippy writes:

but i might check some other PM bands today.

# May 27, 2007 @ 4:45 AM ET | IP Logged

84. the antihippy writes:

alright, manowar is actually not that bad.

i am too unworthy for their metalness =(

# May 27, 2007 @ 5:23 AM ET | IP Logged

85. Roadrunner writes:

Just to put it out there, BFMV are NOT emo, just take a listen to the solo on "4 Words (To Choke Upon), bfmv are metalcore, i dont think an emo band could solo as good as they do, BUT there is way way waaaaaaay better solos then them, so ya..... i guess

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86. kkkkk writes:

i would say b4mv is emocore, not metalcore, they arent metal enough.

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87. DeathInEye writes:

I would call B4MV emocore. I say because he seriously uses their vocal style and the guitars spend more time in acoustic melodies than rhythmic/harmonizing riffs. But I think they're good guys and I'll listen to their next cd. I'm curious where they take their sound. ATR is undoubtedly metalcore though. Singing period does not equal emo.

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