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Woman Sexually Assaulted At Ozzfest Show

Police in Tinley Park, Illinois, are searching for a man who sexually assaulted a 20-year-old Ozzfest attendee in a parking lot outside the festival on Sunday. The attack occurred as the woman was leaving the show at the First Midwest Bank Amphitheater at approximately 8 p.m.

According to a report on the incident from the Tinley Park Police Department, the assault happened as the woman was walking through one of the venue's parking lots. She encountered the shirtless man and they began talking. "After they engaged in conversation, he forced her to a secluded grassy area of the parking lot where the assault took place," according to the report. "The subject then released the victim and left the area in an unknown direction."

Tinley Park Police Commander Phil Valois told the Chicago Tribune that the victim � who came to the concert from neighboring Indiana � said she initially had no reason to be scared of the attacker.

The woman described her attacker as white, muscular, 5-foot-9, about 30-years-old with short brown hair and possibly pierced nipples. There have been no witness reports of the attack, and Valois said it was unlikely anyone saw or heard it.

The victim reported the incident to the amphitheater's staff 10 minutes after she was assaulted.

Police had no additional information at press time, according to a Tinley Park Police Department spokesperson.

An Ozzfest spokesperson could not be reached for comment.

Source: MTV

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83 Comments on "Woman Sexually Assaulted At Ozzfest Show"

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1. Negatyve_One writes:

Thats some sick stuff, and how no 1 else could see or hear it is beyond me if everyone was leaving the venue there had to be people everywhere.

# Jul 19, 2006 @ 3:59 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. DamnItAllToHell writes:

if she was leaving at 8pm, there probebly wasnt alot of people around since ozzfest usually lasts untill 11pm or so. At least, thats always been my experience. and thats some f ucked up sh*t, some loser who cant get laid has to f uck with some innocent women; WTF is this world comin to...

# Jul 19, 2006 @ 4:32 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. coco writes:

come on it been like this since sodom and gomhorra.

# Jul 19, 2006 @ 4:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. Spirit of the elder gods writes:

Whoever the f*** did this wants gassing or a ride in the electric chair.Sick motherf***er that is inhuman.I hope in time she can get over her ordeal.Somebody outthere knows who did this or knows someone who saw what happened you cannot shield an animal who does this to women.

# Jul 19, 2006 @ 4:47 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. coco writes:

inhuman? hahahahhahahaha

look at da atheist speakin.

# Jul 19, 2006 @ 5:01 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. Spirit of the elder gods writes:

To add to the above.coco:- you are joking ofcourse I am assuming if so that is not funny.I am sure if it was your mum or sister or daughter or cousin or a female friend or hell maybe an innocent woman in the street u just saw getting raped or a girlfriend (although i doubt with such a blase attitude as you appear to have to rape i guess u don't have one)you would feel maybe a modicum of sympathy for a fellow human being.If you really mean what u say then I hope U GET RAPED but then again I guess you could just dismiss it and so could we.Am i correct ?

# Jul 19, 2006 @ 5:02 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. coco writes:

no b****. i'm not makin fun of what happen.

i'm laughin at da fact you are atheist speakin as if humanity does not have a god.

inhuman............an atheist sayin dat? sounds like christian to me.

and of course nobody desrve this sh**. rape strip of humanity. but i can say it.

i believe in god.

# Jul 19, 2006 @ 5:13 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. coco writes:

and yeah maybe you are correct.

but get this............i'm aim at your atheism.

and there is no such things as friends. i'm not a sociopath but i don't want to get with ppl. i guess not in this times.

# Jul 19, 2006 @ 5:17 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. Spirit of the elder gods writes:

Nice try to wind me up Christian omg lmfao.No I am an atheist the whole thing is bullsh**.BUT i consider myself a moral person and don't need to follow a non-existant doctrine like a lamb to the slaughter.I knew you would not be making fun NO-ONE surely could.i wanted to get a response so we could chat dude.

# Jul 19, 2006 @ 5:24 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. kev74d writes:

I think it is sad that this happened. Always travel with a "battle buddy." Especially when you go to shows and places with alot of strange people around. I hate this happened. Nothing is more annoying than someone who feels they have to sexually assault someone else to get their rocks off. Real men don't assault people. I hope she can put her life back together. I hate reading things like this. Do we need more security? WTF? BLEED BLACK LABEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

# Jul 19, 2006 @ 7:13 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. coco writes:

BUT i consider myself a moral person and don't need to follow a non-existant doctrine like a lamb to the slaughter.

sorry dude.................but that is not possible. not ever never.....(sigh) never.

and what makes you think i'm gonna want to debate with someone out of my category.

perhaps it stupid too think dat way....................

but i'm not goin to be drowned in the sea of atheism. you are not goin to brainwashed me, atheist.
for i will not give satan that satisfaction.

but then again.........atheist don't believe in hell either.

but that would be the least of satan concerns if it was ever his intention. for all he cares is an "anti-christ" legion.

i may sound like wierd to the likes of you.......................but if you read the book of revelations (2000 year old legendary book) you will see that the bible was never bullsh**ting around.

everything it says is happening, the eve of armageddon is upon us due to all fullfilled predicitions.

think about, you 31 year old brainwashed atheist.

# Jul 19, 2006 @ 7:15 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. BLACKDOG writes:

I do not want to sit here and imply that we as a race in general have not evolved past the cave man mentality but unfortunatley it's true.It's sad that a young woman can't go to a show on her own without haveing to worry about this kind of insanity.

# Jul 19, 2006 @ 7:32 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. kev74d writes:

I hope the f**k*rs c**k falls off.
S.D.M.F. BLEED BLACK LABEL!!!!!!!!!!

# Jul 19, 2006 @ 7:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. killingtime420 writes:

Coco - "brainwashed atheist" that's the funniest thing I've ever read coming from a Christian. See the irony? How about the oxymoron?
You can shut up now you sheep.
Fix your f***ing grammer too.

# Jul 19, 2006 @ 9:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. psythe writes:

here's a little lesson for you all:

Atheists do not deny the existence of one or more Transcendant Beings (or "God"s). That's called Agnosticism. If you disbelieve in the existence of any "God", then you are an AGNOSTIC.

Atheists simply don't care whether there are Gods or not. They believe that sure, there might well be Gods. And there might not. But if there are, then they do not act either directly or indirectly on this Earth.

It's kind of like Buddhism in that Buddhists do not deny the existance of Transcendant Beings, but instead the IMPERMENANCY of any such Deity. Buddhists hold that whilst there may well be Gods, the Gods don't have to be worshipped.

I hope I remembered all that correctly, I'm taking that info from my school religion class years.

Oh, and the Bible - yeah, it IS actually bullsh**ting us all. Has been, too, ever since a certain council held by a certain Roman Emperor. Perhaps you know what I'm talking about. The fact that the Holy Bible, which wasn't written until (was it a hundred, or hundreds of years after?) well after the Prodigal Son had perished upon the cross, and the fact that the Holy Bible has been translated around FOUR times for us to read it (and we all know that errors in translation happen - mainly because some languages simply don't have words for what other languages do) suggest that maybe the book we're reading today should be categorized 'Fiction'. And I'm sure there are other reasons, too. However, none of this is new evidence, it's all been said before, and nobody can prove anything one way or the other, so it's all just harmless speculation - and in light of that, I ask that you not take offence to my speculations here, since none was intended in the forthcoming.

In your words (for the most part): Think about it, you brainwashed Christian.

# Jul 19, 2006 @ 9:52 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. psythe writes:

oh, and sexual assualt?


f***ing disgusting.

# Jul 19, 2006 @ 9:56 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. ozzfest sucks writes:

the real crime here was ozzy raping her of her money

# Jul 19, 2006 @ 10:10 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. BLACKDOG writes:

I'm a christian & I've got no idea what coco is talking about.As far as armageddon being upon us.I don't care what the book say's.If god is what they say he is(and I do believe he or she is)WHO THE f*** ARE WE TO PREDICT THE CREATOR'S TIME FRAME !!!!!! Keep your religion to yourself.It's not your place to judge anyone.

# Jul 19, 2006 @ 10:10 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. d writes:

this just shows that the time we live in is way different. I have never heard a story of something like this happening at the original woodstock. Its just sad that now days there are so many ppl like that guy and that those f***ers show up at shows were people come to have a good time.

as for psythe i am glad to see that someone actually knows what there talking about.

# Jul 19, 2006 @ 11:14 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. harvester of sorrow writes:

You can have morals without be affiliated with any type of religon. Athiest, agnostic, christian, devil worshiper(not sure of the correct term). Personally I am christian but i know all types of these kind of people and all of them look down upon rape. It is human nature to know that this kind of act is wrong. You don't need to be christian to see what is right and wrong.

# Jul 19, 2006 @ 11:29 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. #54 writes:

Question? did she go w/ her boyfriend cuase if this happened in texas her boyfriend would've found they guy and killed him another thing i hope this doesn't affect future ozzfest performances or tours

# Jul 19, 2006 @ 11:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. Body Hammer writes:

Um, if this happened in Texas no one would have wanted to touch her. I've been to 2 Ozzfests in Texas and the female quality is severely lacking.

# Jul 20, 2006 @ 12:54 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. Opeth Suck!!! writes:

I was at the Ozzfest in Tinley Park. And I left at 7:00 right before Avenged Sevenfold, Disturbed, and SOAD. I can definitely see how no one saw or heard it. There are lots of easy places where you could hide and no one would even know. It's surrounded by trees and a little dried up swamp like area. It's real easy. I feel so bad for this girl and I wish this didn't happen. No one deserves this at all. I hope the f***er that did this gets what he has coming to him. But then again they don't have a very good description of the guy. And when I left at 7 there was not a single person in the parking lot but my group of people. Woman should not go to concerts alone. And yeah there was some, not too much but some good looking women there. Hope we get an update soon.

# Jul 20, 2006 @ 1:28 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. Spirit of the elder gods writes:

killintime420, harvester of sorrow, blackdog and psythe finally someone states what is painfully obvious and uses some intelligence for a change as well.I do not have to be a christian to be moral or know that rape is disgusting as well as murder and paedophilia etc.i believe the bible is bullsh** and psythe you said it better than i possibly could,god may exist he/she/it may not i just choose to live my life by my own values as i see absolutely zero interference in human events eg nazi holocaust 9/11 boxing day tsunami etc by any deity's.i always used to ask stuff like if god is all powerful can he create a rock even he can't move ? however we are getting sidetracked the main issue is the rape of this young woman well i stated i had morals but given the chance i would give whoever did this the beating of his life (not quite an eye for an eye-although in jail maybe this evil basterd would get "true justice")so i guess that's some old testament style justice hahaha........

# Jul 20, 2006 @ 3:39 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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25. everneed writes:

psythe, i think you''ve got atheisim and agnosticisim mixed up. atheists do not beleive in the existance of a god. agnostics are unsure one way or the other.
if/when they catch this nobgobbler i really hope he gets to share a cell with a lonly 300 pound guy named buba who's in the joint for murder... then he'd find out what "sexual assault" really is

# Jul 20, 2006 @ 7:28 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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26. Ostracised writes:

I think the guy should be orally and anally raped by rabid wildebeasts on viagra and pcp. That'll teach him. Where's one of Kuklinski's rat caves when you need one?

# Jul 20, 2006 @ 9:36 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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27. harvester of sorrow writes:

I believe when they catch the animal who did this they should hand him over to gwar to be murdered on stage

# Jul 20, 2006 @ 11:03 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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28. metal2death writes:

i did it

# Jul 20, 2006 @ 11:07 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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29. Opeth Suck!!! writes:

Hey metal2death this kinda thing really isn't something to joke about.

# Jul 20, 2006 @ 12:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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30. DrunkIrishMetal writes:

This is why I went to Sounds of the Underground.

No, actually I went to see GWAR, which probably rivals a sexual assault in terms of how disturbing it is, although I will admit that GWAR is quite a bit more comical than the above-mentioned assault. In all seriousness though, I think all will agree that the incident was f***ed up, but I'm at a loss for possible explanations for why this young lady was at Ozzfest (of all places) by herself. It's a f***ed up world, kids.

# Jul 20, 2006 @ 1:49 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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31. graveland writes:

could you imagine the police taking down the description of this guy. and description of someone at ozzfest fits about 6000 people.

# Jul 20, 2006 @ 1:51 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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32. harvester of sorrow writes:

Yeah i agree with you drunkishmetal gwar is a little more comical then what i said above

# Jul 20, 2006 @ 2:51 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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33. RememberMetal? writes:

Has to suck for girls who like metal....

I can't tell you how many time I've been to show where girls are getting groped in circle pits or while crowd surfing. Some of them probably aren't even 15.....it's f***ed up. Some of em get tossed around like rag dolls.

I've been in a very small number of -honest to god- confrontations in my life...One involved this chubby recneck kid with face full of pimples and COF shirt...he dilberately shoved this tiny goth-ish girl to the hardwood...He laughed until I did the exact same thing to him a second later, only I kicked the back of his knee as I pushed him...Corny chivalry-hero sh** I know, but it happened.

Fat a$$ had a bloody nose and elbow. He didn't even do anything about it, he just looked at me like he wanted to kill me and went off to the bathroom to check himself out. Girl gave me a polite "thank you." and went back to hopping to the opening band. I was probably a couple inches shorter than him to boot. It was a Filter show in 02 for the Amalgamut record. Funny stuff.

It's a societal/animal thing: taking advantage of the opposite sex or smaller/weaker people...Not a whole lot that can be done other than increased security at these shows and festivals.

# Jul 20, 2006 @ 3:38 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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34. Spirit of the elder gods writes:

To RememberMetal?:-And they say chivalry is dead.Not all metal ladies are defenceless at THE GODS OF GRIND concert (carcass/entombed/confessor/napalm death)some time ago my best mate was almost crushed to death when trying to catch a larger female who had frog-splashed him he had to sit out the rest of the pit.Needless to say even now today endless hours of fun at his exspense are had by all.

# Jul 20, 2006 @ 3:46 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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35. ZAKKe writes:

o

# Jul 20, 2006 @ 5:08 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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36. eddie is real writes:

remeber metal im alot younger than you and ive seen it happen where there being groped in circle pits and crowed surfing

# Jul 20, 2006 @ 5:12 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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37. Ostracised writes:

Not to get off topic, but does anyone remember when they were just called PITS? No circle, just the PIT!! Anyway I stand by my comment of that dude needing to be gangraped by rabid wildebeasts on viagra and pcp. Then maybe castrated slowly with a wooden spoon and skinned alive. Feel free to add to and embellish.

# Jul 20, 2006 @ 5:30 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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38. Endless666 writes:

http://www.sexualassault.com

# Jul 20, 2006 @ 5:31 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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39. slayerdisciple writes:

wow dude wat a little f***er theres an easier way then rape its called prostitution

# Jul 20, 2006 @ 10:09 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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40. Amyth1 writes:

Very sad indeed.

# Jul 20, 2006 @ 10:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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41. Disillusionment writes:

Sad, yes. Pathetic, indeed.

# Jul 20, 2006 @ 10:45 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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42. lorlor writes:

While I am very disgusted that this happened, I am not shocked about it. There are so many fu*cked up people in this world, that prey on other people. And hard music, mixed with alcohol, and probably drugs, and too much testosterone -- you get a guy with a power trip, and rape is the result. Rape happens every day, in every city, in every environment. The fact that it happened at the concert is not the point. And also, the whole conversation earlier between Spirit and coco is a joke. coco, you are truly not very smart. Religion has nothing to do with a person having morals and sensitivity to other people. Ethics. Ever hear the word? How about respect? Or judgement. How about Violation? None of these things have anything to do with religion or God. You don't have to believe in GOD to have these values. Idiot. I don't believe in God, but I have all the values I mentioned. And I find it repulsive that these types of crimes happen. These people need to go get therapy, get on some good f***ing meds, and take care of their issues instead of preying on society.

# Jul 21, 2006 @ 12:57 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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43. RememberMetal? writes:

well said if a bit heavy handed....then again I'm not a girl...

I think this might hit home if I were a girl or a father....Still pisses me off none the less.

# Jul 21, 2006 @ 1:05 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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44. Opeth Suck!!! writes:

Well said lorlor.

# Jul 21, 2006 @ 1:06 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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45. WithRevernce writes:

Dude, that sucks, that's just wrong, somebody like that guy deserves to have their a$$ kicked or something.

# Jul 21, 2006 @ 1:20 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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46. deathbringer writes:

Psythe, sorry, but you got it backwards. Agnosticism is the belief that one cannot know whether there is a god or not. Atheism is not believing in one.

And yes (in agreement to above), religion is not a requirement for talking about any kind of morality. If you are so extreme that you think it is, you would not be frequenting such a site in the first place. Coco is just a troll.

# Jul 21, 2006 @ 2:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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47. lorlor writes:

LOL. coco is a troll. OMG, that is funny. LOL.

# Jul 21, 2006 @ 5:29 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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48. #54 writes:

Hey body hammer bet your gay

# Jul 21, 2006 @ 7:17 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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49. lamb of god fan ! writes:

obviously he is gay ! duh get a brain

# Jul 21, 2006 @ 8:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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50. psythe writes:

ahh well, it has been a few years, and I never really listened too attentively (sp?), anyway. I was bound to get something mixed up. Cheers for letting me know, mate.

# Jul 21, 2006 @ 9:24 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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51. psythe writes:

heh. here's one for you:

"Nontheism; the absence of belief in both the existence AND non-existence of a deity (or deities, or other numinous phenomena)." - from Wikipedia, of course. Love that site, should read up on stuff more often, hey.

# Jul 21, 2006 @ 9:41 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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52. psythe writes:

whoops, put the first quotation marks in the wrong spot. oh well. sue me.

# Jul 21, 2006 @ 9:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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53. lorlor writes:

psythe. you are so politically correct! lol. I doubt anyone would have noticed your misplaced quotation marks. haha. But, I love the definition you shared with us. That is truly for people who just don't give a F*UCK about whether or not God exists, and don't waste any time thinking about something that they will never get the answer to. Like me.

# Jul 22, 2006 @ 2:24 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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54. BLACKDOG writes:

This is just crazy.I just found out that a girl I used to date was gang raped.It happend before we met but looking back I realize she did seem to have some hang-up's.I was talking to a friend about this encident at OzzFest(her cousin)and she told me what happend.I never knew.Mind you this is a girl I dated 10 yrs ago.And this happend 5 or 6 yrs before that.

This was effecting her while we were dateing.She would act strange at times for reason's that I could not understand because she never told me.We argued alot because of it.I bring this up because it is the kind of thing that will effect the victim forever.After I found out I asked her about it and she just started crying.The guy's that did it one of whome was her best friend or supposed to be anyway.They were drinking and some of the guy's were doing coke.while waiting for some other people to show up.Or so she thought.

It turned out to be a whole set-up.These clowns thought if they got her drunk & high she would just go along with it.Everyone assumed she was a slut anyway because she hung out with guy's all the time when in fact she was just a Tom Boy.The only good thing that came from this is she stopped drinking.Other than that now that......I know you can just tell she's still carrying it.It's really sad.

# Jul 22, 2006 @ 5:33 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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55. StraightEdge0940 writes:

holy $h!t mang, i was there, and i overheard that some sh!t went down. thats (S I C) stuff.

# Jul 22, 2006 @ 10:56 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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56. lorlor writes:

it's pathetic. You know, Phoenix has 2 serial killers right now. One is a rapist also. And, this is the first time in US history that a city has had 2 serial killers on the loose at the same time..

# Jul 23, 2006 @ 1:57 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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57. StraightEdge0940 writes:

thats f***in nutz lorlor. it is f***in pathetic.

# Jul 23, 2006 @ 2:46 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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58. psythe writes:

Lorlor - hahah, sorry for being so "p.c.", I just tend to pride myself on good grammar - esp. in a 'world' where a literate understanding of the English language is considered somewhat rare (well, on forum/thread sites, at any rate). As for Nontheism, I think you misunderstood - the religion that couldn't care less either way is Weak or Apathetic Agnosticism, or Ignosticism, by my understanding. Nontheism is apparently a very focused belief. Of course, I havn't really read into it, I'm just guessing, really. So I may well be wrong about that.

Blackdog - Damn, man. That's unfortunate. I feel for you, my last ex was a rape victim (though she conferred to me at some point throughout the relationship, it must be hard to only find out afterwards, finally tie up some loose understandings about the relationship and such), and that sort of violation doesn't leave them. She was a messed-up woman, I can tell you. Depressed as f***. Can't even begin to explain. Scares me. Beautiful girl underneath all the abuse, though.

As for serial killers - I once heard (you've probably heard it, too) that the "ultimate pleasure" was to, whilst a girl was giving you head, slit their throat. So that they're gargling on their own blood, and your hard-on, as you watch the life in their eyes dim... that sh** scared the f*** out of me. i was f***ed up. who the fu - what the f- how the f*** could you... i don't even want to think about it, hey. seriously, i... f*** that. bullsh**. f*** that sh**. i...nah. no f***in way. i'm...f*** that, i'm goin to bed.

sorry about the swearing.

# Jul 23, 2006 @ 12:13 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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59. Spirit of the elder gods writes:

Many metal bands sing songs of praise about serial killers.These "people" are not fit to be placed in the category as human unfortunately these individuals roam our planet although the term "serial killer" is fairly new.The media reveers them as heroes/heroine's as though they are worthy of our respect, to be put on a pedestal for being "different".Film,music and news reports all of us are guilty of almost making it cool to murder and mutilate the innocent in the sickest ways imaginable to the mind.It's almost as though it's more important how people died not the fact they were murdered.psythe i have never heard that about "the ultimate pleasure"and i doubt that less than 0.000000000000000000001% of people in the world could derive any form of pleasure from that as the "normal" people like u and me and to be honest i would say 100% of people on mu are wired different to these individuals(although i am waiting for the first joker to say I AM A SERIAL KILLER as though that makes them cool or something).We should be thankful that these "people" are on the whole exceedingly rare although i bet many of us could rattle off a few imfamous names which just proves my point.I used to read "true crime" books on these people for some bizarre reason in my youth why i did this i guess i was impressionable and stupid.Serial killers are truly is the ugliest side of human existence.Oh there is no need to apologise for swearing about a subject like this unfortunately for all of us me included this phenomenon has become something trivial and funny which is as damning a fact on society as the people who do this evil.

# Jul 23, 2006 @ 2:55 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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60. BLACKDOG writes:

What's up psythe.It's nice to hear from someone who has an idea of the problem.

I used to read alot about Serial killer's too.Court TV actually has an informative web site called the Crime Library.It has some truly extensive research on crime and a really big section devoted to serial killer's & Rapist's.this might sound a little sick but it's truly fascinateing.It includes commentary from Psychiatrist's and FBI Profilers.You'd be shocked at who's on this list.

For example Vlad Tepesh,(Dracula)His great grand niece Elizabeth Bathory(bathed in blood of young girl's.Another person Guiles De Race.Who was actually an ally of Joan Of Arc.Murderd and sodomized what some expert's say was upward of five hundred young children mostly boy's.All this was going on in the Middle Ages.So just think what's happening now.The thing about serial Killer's is they are usually highly entelligent.Which is why it's so difficult to catch them much less detect them.The really scary part is they used to have a set profile for them.The usual culprit was or used to be White male's between the ages of 25-45.Now it's minority men and young women 19-45 yrs of age.The lines are starting to blur.Lor Lor be safe that's a truly f***ed up situation.You might want to check out that site simply for info's sake.It could help you protect yourself.

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61. Spirit of the elder gods writes:

To BLACKDOG:-Wanna run a sweepstake on the identity of the first misguided guillable fool on mu who tries to say serial killers are cool etc.i used to read about charles manson(technically a spree killer),henry lee lucas,richard ramirez,jack the ripper,,jeffrey dahmer,ted bundy etc what the f*** was i thinking the things u do when you are young and impressionable.

# Jul 23, 2006 @ 5:37 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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62. BLACKDOG writes:

HAHAHA!!!!! Yeah let's do that.The smart money's on Red Devil or one of those other clown's.

The strange part is it really is fascenateing reading.Morbid but fascenateing.I don't know if there's anything wrong with just reading about it.I have really wild thought's all the time I don't act on them.That's the difference.I can't remember the name of it(I think it's real vampires or something like that)but you'd probably find it interesting.It's about a group of kid's that killed a girl's parent's.The Insane part is the young girl in question was the ring leader.This story really happend about five years ago in south carolina or virginia.The girl is currently serving a life sentence.The girl's a real wack job too.She claimed to be a vampire and the daughter of Satan while she was on the stand.I'll see if I can find the name of the book for you.

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63. Spirit of the elder gods writes:

Oh red devil is like odds on i'll give u 5-1 on.I know what u are saying about morbid fascination we all have that.oh if u want f***ed up try charles manson the beatles song helter skelter apparently has a message from the beatles subliminally hidden in that song telling him to order his followers to murder people.what the f*** !!!!!

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64. BLACKDOG writes:

Yeah I'd herd that.The thing is I love that song.

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65. Candida writes:

First off, yeah it's unfortunet what happen to this lady. But like someone said, sh** like this happens all the time, no matter what age race or place. It's f***ed up but that's our world.
Second- Why are we talking about religion? -- Who cares!
Third- Girls going to shows. I'm 25 yr old female. I've been going to shows since I was 18. The way I see it, if you can't handle it then don't f***ing go to a show. I have never been gropped or any of that. But I've also never been crowd surffing. But I've been in the pits and all that, and it's great fun! I find that most of the people around you are actually nice, and are willing to help you out. I've been in circle pits where I've sene guys push girls down, but then again they don't care who's in front, just push them down. But I've also seen guys help girls up. Come on guys give some girls some credit. I mean I've seen little girls (14) that had some balls. -- but then I've also seen some girls there whom look like they're there just to pick up.

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66. Opeth Suck!!! writes:

A couple of my friends said that a few years back they went to a Silverchair concert and there was a girl that was crowd surfing and she was getting fingered by just about every guy that she went over. Obviousely she had no underwear or anthing at all on. So just don't wear skirts and crowd surf? lol idk...

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67. psythe writes:

I'M A CEREAL KILLER!! hahah, screwed your gambling system - oh, wait, wrong type of cereal. damn. oh well. continue your wagers, gentlemen :P

yeah, there's some f***ed up people that do some f***ed up sh**. and i hate to admit it, but i'd much the hell rather read about rape and murder and sin than a tea-party, for example. It is, as was pointed out, morbidly fascinating. Of course, I like to read about this sort of stuff when i'm getting it from the 'fiction' section of the library. From a news medium, that is NOT something I want to read (or have happened in the first place, for that matter). To that point, that Crime Library of yours sounds quite interesting, if disturbing.

I'm pretty sure that if you go crowd-surfing in a skirt with no underwears, then you WANT to get fingered by every man and elsewise within fingering range.

oh, and I'm pretty sure that the sheer percentage of todays global population that affiliate themselves with one or more religious traditions and theologies speaks fairly plainly about just who cares. apparently, the vast, unyeilding majority.

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68. CrawfordTexasJingoJango writes:

Hey! I was raped, too! Oh, wait. What I actually meant to type was this: "I would rather be raped than see Disturbed and System of a Down ever play ever again." Or: "God, please rape me instead of letting me see Disturbed or System of a Down ever again". The woman being assaulted is horrible, indeed, but when I'd rather be forced to have sex with someone rather than watch the two sh**tiest bands ever, someone needs to overhaul their festival tour, don'tcha think?

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69. weisse writes:

mother always said never leave only

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70. BLACKDOG writes:

Crawford you are one strange dude.

# Jul 25, 2006 @ 5:01 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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71. dontlikeyou writes:

only fags pierce their nipples what was he doing raping a chick?

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72. KORNDOGG writes:

THATS SOME BULLsh**, ITS SAD WHEN A GIRL CANT HAVE A GOOD TIME AT A SHOW WITHOUT BEING f***ED WITH OR RAPED, OR BEING YELLED AT TO SHOW THEIR TITS!!!!
I DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT IS WRONG WITH f***EN PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A CONCERT SHOULD BE A FUN AND KICKASS EXPERIANCE FOR EVERY ONE!!!!!!!!!!

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73. dontlikeyou writes:

yep sure as sh**, korndoggs a queer. what the hell are you talking about, that is exactly what a concert is for, tits, beer, loud music, and yelling at fat chicks to get the hell out of the arena.

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74. KORNDOGG writes:

WHATS QUEER IS THE FACT YOU GO TO CONCERTS FOR THOSE REASONS!
IF I WANT TITS,BEER, AND LOUD MUSIC IN ONE, ILL GO TO A STRIPCLUB!!!!!!!!!
FIRST OF ALL IM MARRIED, SECOND I HAVE RESPECT FOR WOMEN AT CONCERTS!!
I GO TO A CONCERT TO HAVE A GOOD TIME AND SEE SOME KICK a$$ BANDS PLAY SOME KICK a$$ MUSIC!!!!!
YOU ON THE OTHER HAND GO TO DISRESPECT WOMEN AND GET DRUNK!
DONT GET ME WRONG I GET DRUNK AT CONCERTS TOO, BUT I DONT GO FOR TITS AND TO YELL AT FAT GIRLS, WHATEVER THE f*** THAT MEANS!!!!!!

GROW UP YOU IMMATURE f***!

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75. coco writes:

WAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA............................

THIS HAS BEEN HILARIOUS....................

i haven't been around fer a week for attending my life. unlike S-HIT fans. i'm crackin my a$$ off...... at all da damn posts. dat i had to ta go to da bathroom once to piss.

you know i just heard lance bass from n'sync has revealed to be gay. the fag has to admitted until now.................

now it only up to m. shadows (ax7) to admit his love for c***s

but what really funny is da fact that all of you took my issue seriously on morales and religious and sh**. you guys ARE DA JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

especially sprirt, psythe, blackdog talkin their rants about sh** i could care less(oh and psythe congratulations on bein the newest member of mu staff........on behalf of everyone...........not me)

and lorlor, yer lezzie-speech was hilarious, i could give quirts of piss about what morales and religion are

i don't give a f***...............

i got my own thoughts where i'm fukin right.............

cuz coco f***in says so.................. WAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA

oh yeah i look up agnoticism and it definition.........ppl who are not sure wheter a god exist or not(kind of like cult with no lifes)

but my version of agnotcisism and da original differ in three words............

(coco version of agnoticism)agnosticisism- RITES OF CLITS

wAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHA.............oh sh**(sigh)

so you see, nobody gotta bring their 365 pounds a$$ and tell me sh** like............

lousy meat-mouthed bastards.

atheism................meh i could give a rabbit sh** and a 1/2......hyuk hyuk

to all fags and lezzies who is not with me can get go lick c***s/ and da special san fransisco sausage fest..............

(*more sh**-talkin*)

i'm not goin to expect a b****-fest for i believe i make myself perfectly clear dat i don't give a f*** about the conversation earlier.................... maybe i was wrong but thinkin about wheter it requires to this sh** and dat sh** cuz yer in this rectum or the other rectum i don't care for sh** sakes hahahaha..............

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76. coco writes:

(sigh) i guess i was typing too fast i made some errors........................

there is somethin dat still irks me.............

MATT SHADOWS- THE INCOMPLETE TRANSEXUAL FAG

does not come out to say claim his faginess................(especially since his a gay icon)

you know this b**** nelly furtado(radio friendly stupid ho) came out at last about her bisexuality, and dave navarro(former chilli peppers guitarist) as well

wahahhahahhahahhahahahhahahaha......................

i just love periods(not menstruation you idiots, the things at the end of this sentences).................

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77. LYRICALRAZOR writes:

I honestly wondered when something that unfortunate was going to happen at one of those shows. Let me catch the dude who did it too...I'd make sure that the only thing he'd want to sexually assualt in the future would be Lance Bass...

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78. Spirit of the elder gods writes:

COCO-one thing i will say you make me laugh and your rants are f***ing hilarious.This site would be boring without you.later....................

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79. Foley writes:

dontlikeyou on comment 73 says the best and truest comment ever HORNS UP BUDDY

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80. Asgasiti writes:

Coco you are amazing... In a sad way... I have no idea what in the world you are talking about through most of your posts... All that i got out of the drivel was a good bit of ignorance.
But anyways...
Its unfortunate that these things happen, and so often. These actions scar people ( In most cases ) for the rest of thier lives. Everytime i hear something like this ( Which happens far too much ) it just makes me sick. You really have to stand in awe of the callousness it takes to commit an act like this. I am just disgusted with humanity.

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81. Xplayer writes:

You know, I went to the Ozzfest event on that day, and around 8:15 we saw a sh** load of police come inside the venue, they were patroling the area making sure that creep wasn't around. I say around that time they had AV7X playing right after Hate Breed had finished. My friend and I didn't know wat was up , but that attack must have been the reason why Authorities were there.

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82. losergurl writes:

wat happened at ozzfest to that lady indeed waz very sad. That jerk DOES need to get a taste of hiz own medicine!

# Aug 3, 2006 @ 1:36 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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83. Antivenin01 writes:

Semi off topic but whats with all the violence at these summer concerts? Rapes, peregnant women close to moshpits, massive ammounts of tickets handed out whats going on? What ever happened to the time when you went to a concert the bands didn't suck and you got your pot in and just rocked out for the whole day?
f***ed up people man.

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