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Tool Announces"Vicarious" As New Single, Release Date Set

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Jonathan Cohen of Billboard.com reports: Tool has revealed the track list for its next studio album, "10,000 Days." As previously reported, the set is due May 2 via Volcano. The first single/album opener "Vicarious," which stretches past the seven-minute mark, is due to arrive April 17 at U.S. rock radio outlets.

True to form, the 11-track "10,000 Days" sports a number of epic tunes, particularly "Rosetta Stoned" and "10,000 Days (Wings Pt. 2)," both of which clock in at 11:14. Near the end of the disc are the substantially lengthy "Intension" (7:21) and "Right in Two" (8:56).

"10,000 Days" is the follow-up to 2001's "Lateralus," which debuted at No. 1 on The Billboard 200 and has sold 2.3 million copies in the United States, according to Nielsen SoundScan.

As previously reported, Tool will play its first U.S. show since late 2002 when it headlines the Coachella Valley Music & Arts Festival on April 30 in Indio, Calif. No other U.S. dates have been confirmed. Afterward, the band will spend the first portion of the summer playing the European festival circuit, with dates on tap through July 9 at Finland's Turku Festival.

Here is the track list for "10,000 Days":

"Vicarious"
"Jambi"
"Wings for Marie (Pt. 1)"
"10,000 Days (Pt. 2)"
"The Pot"
"Lipan Conjuring"
"Lost Keys (Blame Hofman)"
"Rosetta Stoned"
"Intension"
"Right in Two"
"Viginti Tres"

Source: Billboard.com

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1. inhatredofme writes:

i bet this is going to be truly amazing.

# Mar 28, 2006 @ 7:40 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. psythe writes:

you bet! really hoping they change the names though. c'mon, Tool, you can do better than that!

# Mar 28, 2006 @ 10:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. RememberMetal? writes:

The new Tool logo they're pushing looks way too much like the word fool...as in April fools....Something Tool celebrates every year by f***ing with the media and fans....I'll bet half the titles are the real....I do not trust song titles like The Pot, Lost Keys(blame hofman) Rosetta Stoned and even the so-so 10,000 days....It just isnt Tool....... I dunno Tool have made outrageous song titles before but they atleast felt right....
We'll see....

Tool don't generally reveal that they messing with people until days after April 1st....

# Mar 28, 2006 @ 10:28 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. psythe writes:

yeah, let's hope...

hey, anyone heard of the Butterfly Effect (band)? i know they're not really what you'd call 'metal' as such, but they've still got an awesome sound going on. if you havn't heard them, i really can't recommend them too highly. tell me what you think of 'em.

# Mar 28, 2006 @ 11:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. Scorched_Earth writes:

I agree with Remeber Metal?-I think the smart money is on a huge prank- as much as I love those guys, they can be d***s sometimes towards their fans...

# Mar 29, 2006 @ 9:29 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. Negatyve_One writes:

Settle down RM? Although Im not allowed to spoil everything your right. All the track names are fake including the album title. And that wont be the name of the first single.

Im 99% sure of my sources....

# Mar 29, 2006 @ 11:52 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. Scorched_Earth writes:

What I don't get is why don't they just not say sh** until the Album is about to drop? Why play games just to see if you'll react? That's about as creative as using a Whoopee cushion...


# Mar 30, 2006 @ 9:50 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. moeshiboe writes:

Is there any chance that any of the mp3 songs are the actual TOOL songs? The reason I ask is that the vicarious download is 2:49 and none of the other times are matching up like Rosetta Stoned. Just curious. May 2nd could not get here any faster!

# Mar 30, 2006 @ 7:59 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. shardik writes:

hey MOESHIBOE..... Vicarious, the new single, hits radio April 17th, clocking in at just over 7 MINUTES LONG.... hope that helps clear up your mistaken eyes and ears...

# Mar 30, 2006 @ 8:15 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. RememberMetal? writes:

I'm excited for the new album. I expect to dedicate an entire day to just aborbing it note for note....It's comforting to know that Negatyve One is on the facts...

I'm still pondering the Ignovimous title that some kind poster suggested....I like the sound and meaning of it...especially considering the topics being addressed on the new album.

# Mar 30, 2006 @ 8:51 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. bradispissed writes:

to be honest...


i bet the band gets such a hard on watching their fans act like this.


don't worry the music will be here soon enough and all will be well

# Mar 30, 2006 @ 11:26 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. Spiketbear writes:

Gah!! I have been waiting patiently for 5 years since Lateralus came out!!! I'm already drooling about what 10,000 will be like!!! Finally my sweet sustainance....

# Mar 31, 2006 @ 1:00 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. damndude writes:

damn dude, did ya pop a boner while you typed that? getting a little too excited there i think

# Mar 31, 2006 @ 12:38 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. Negatyve_One writes:

RM? give me your e-mail. I believe to have "stumbled" upon the album name and tracklisting. Which in name is infact Ignovimous. The tracklisting is different on the album I believe to be the correct one.

Click the link to an admin and you will find a link to all of us and our e-mails addresses. Just send me one there and ill gladly return.

# Mar 31, 2006 @ 8:32 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. Horoldo writes:

I hope what I downloaded isn't on the new album! Sounded like a guy banging on a paint can and some other guy barking like a dog. Tool are always good for Aprils day.

# Apr 1, 2006 @ 9:18 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. Ryan writes:

I downloaded a 2:49 mp3 of a song titled Vicarious and when I listened... it sounded very Tool like but knowing before I downloaded that the song was over 7 minutes I knew this had to either be someone who did a good job creating a song that sounded like Tool or if it was a snippet of some sort... Anyway, the guitar riff sounded VERY similar to Lateralus but with more crunch to it... The overall feel sounded very refreshing if it was indeed Tool but the vocals that were there were barely audible so I couldn't tell if it was Maynard or not. Until I hear the real thing I have that song labeled as (Unofficial).

# Apr 2, 2006 @ 6:28 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. stubby28182 writes:

Ryan-the track u heard was the intro theme to DOOM3. I downloaded the same file.

# Apr 2, 2006 @ 10:03 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. Ryan writes:

Really? Damn, that's f***ing cool. I think I'll download the real thing then cause the one I downloaded sounded slightly low in quality. Thanks Stubby.

# Apr 2, 2006 @ 4:37 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. Chris Paton writes:

I Think 1000 days is a f***in sh**e name man big time the album will probz be amazing sir but still gonna have its downfallll becose its stupid name

# Apr 2, 2006 @ 8:21 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. RememberMetal? writes:

I knew that Doom 3 mp3 would make the rounds...

It sounds like the songs "Lateralus" and "Part of Me" as far as the riffery is concerned....Bass is very un-Tool but the guitar is quite the dead ringer similar tone, same distortion....

The new Tool album is so safeguarded this time it's absurd....We probably won't know anything until the band and their label and website crew want us to.

# Apr 2, 2006 @ 11:14 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. JohnyQ10 writes:

hey guys, i was searching for some answers to the tool album. I was thinking that since you guys say tool plays a lot of jokes and that indeed the tracklist is wrong as well as the new artwork, album cover and album name. I think maybe they're makign fun of DISTURBED for their 10,000 fists album. obviously disturbed is a wicked gay band so i wouldnt put it past tool to make fun of them for it. thats just what i thought. later guys.

# Apr 3, 2006 @ 7:14 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. Scorched_Earth writes:

For all of you who downloaded, remember Tool is 100% against their music being downloaded. Personally, knowing a lot of musician, I support them and their feelings, but, unless their was a SERIOUS leak in their team, there's no way you got the real album.

Once again, I wish they would stop being d***s and just not say anything, or say that they aren't going to say anything.

# Apr 3, 2006 @ 8:50 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. Dead_Veins writes:

Yeah, i think true Tool fans will actually go out and buy the record to support the band, even though they have road runner and limewire.That vicarious song is totaly not Tool though.The guitar sounds like it, but bass does not sound anything like Justin's.Justin's bass is f***ing beautiful,Pretty like a rose.LIke the little bass solo on the song the grudge in the beginning.

Hopfully they play this on Much music or Mtv. If they do they'll have to have a Special Called tool music cause Tool's music doesnt go in place with all that other bullsh** they play on either network.It would be super odd, like FlaverFlave then a green day video then Tool video. Weird.......

# Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:08 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. Dead_Veins writes:

Green day seriously sucks no offence green day fans just my opinion.ITs subjective....

# Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:11 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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25. Ryan writes:

Scorched_Earth: I may download Vicarious (unless that name changes) when it finally comes out but I'll be one of the first to buy the album. I'm completely with you on supporting the musicians, I will never download an entire album via LimeWire or the like. If I like one song off a particular album and that's it then I'll download that song because I'm not going to waste money on an album for ONE song. That's the only reason I download... and to get myself into other bands. --End Rambling--

# Apr 4, 2006 @ 6:44 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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26. Ryan writes:

Oh... and Chris Patton, how the hell do you think Tool's album will see a downfall just from the album name? Do realize how many f***ing people have been waiting for this to see light? I personally don't give a sh** what it's called, as long as it's good.

# Apr 4, 2006 @ 6:47 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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27. darksound writes:

im a tool

# Apr 4, 2006 @ 7:08 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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28. bigevilmetalhead writes:

^haha

# Apr 4, 2006 @ 10:34 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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29. RememberMetal? writes:

Starting to see solid evidence(toolshed.down.net) that the album will infact be called 10K days....Much to my dismay....

Stupid title....

I'm still hoping -maybe- that it's the dvd title...which has been under works but has been very, VERY hush hush as far as it's progress and probable release date....It would be a better doc-live dvd title than album title in a historic sense anyway....

# Apr 5, 2006 @ 1:21 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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30. Ryan writes:

That actually doesn't sound too bad... 10,000 Days really would fit as a DVD title.

On a side note, in reading prior posts, Ignovimous would be a really f***ing cool title for the album, I guess we'll have to wait two weeks for the single...

# Apr 5, 2006 @ 2:35 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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31. Ryan writes:

That actually doesn't sound too bad... 10,000 Days really would fit as a DVD title.

On a side note, in reading prior posts, Ignovimous would be a really f***ing cool title for the album, I guess we'll have to wait two weeks for the single and maybe we'll get some more info...

# Apr 5, 2006 @ 2:36 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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32. Ryan writes:

Damn... it posted my other one...

# Apr 5, 2006 @ 2:36 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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33. Chained writes:

Its too bad Disturbed already released " Ten thousand fistings". Still wish Tool came up with something else besides " 10,000 days ". But it will f***in rock.

# Apr 5, 2006 @ 3:18 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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34. turd ferguson writes:

Of course it's 10,000 days, isn't that the time between Tool albums anyways?

# Apr 5, 2006 @ 9:42 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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35. turd ferguson writes:

oh and BTW, I agree with several other posters...there is certainly some level of "fakeness" to what has been reported for this release. I find it hilarious that Amazon.com posted the "Fool" album cover.

# Apr 5, 2006 @ 9:44 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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36. pleasedrown writes:

i honestly dont know why im writing in this blog.. other than to tell you all that you're silly. Who cares what the album's name is , what tracks are on it.. who's an a$$hole who's not an a$$hole.. cause we're all suckers.. in the end of all, tool will be doing lines of cocaine with the dollar bills that you spent on their album. end of story.. just be happy... muo contento por favor

# Apr 5, 2006 @ 11:56 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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37. burn instead writes:

hey pleasedrown ... have you heard of PROJECTION?

speak for yourself... sucker.

# Apr 5, 2006 @ 2:19 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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38. ingo4 writes:

I hope that even if all else (i.e. the album name, the traclisting, etc) are fake, the release date for the album is solid. I plan on not doing anything that day but heading to bestbuy before it opens and just hanging out and listening to it all day. Been waiting for this day for a long time. Since Salival.

# Apr 5, 2006 @ 3:56 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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39. jlx writes:

You lot really are a funny bunch...Of course it's the real title of the album, and the tracklisting is correct as well...
Let me guess, you are all between the ages of 12 and 19...

# Apr 5, 2006 @ 5:12 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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40. XM Days writes:


I think Tool would like the idea of everyone walking around with shirts that look like they say 'Fool'. I don't hope it's fake because of the album title or track listing, I hope it's fake because I love a good joke!

Cheers!!!

# Apr 5, 2006 @ 9:39 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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41. Ryan writes:

What makes you so sure jlx? There're plenty of reasons to be skeptical...

# Apr 6, 2006 @ 3:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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42. Scorched_Earth writes:

Ryan-much respect

Knowiing that Maynard is into Sacred Geometry I just devided 10000 by 365 and got 27.39726027397260273972602739726...I'll have to dig. Tool would leave a clue...

On another note...

I saw Tool on the Lateralus tour. Inbetween songs Maynard asked the audience if they were ready for the 'self reliance chant'. He said repeat after me: 'Be yourself', and the audience responded "Be yourself.' He said "Be unique" , and the audience repeated. He started again, and did it about three more times and then said 'Don't repeat what other people say...'

It was kind of funny that he b**** slapped the whole audience (who were silent, and then cheered), but at the same time, it's a f***ing show. Love the guy, but he's a jackass...

# Apr 6, 2006 @ 7:28 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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43. psythe writes:

dude, that's so f***ing maynard, though. reminds me of Monty Python's Life of Brian, where brian tells the townspeople that they are all different, and they all chant back in one unified voice "yes! we ARE all different", and one guy follows with "I'm not". so ironical, and yet makes such a good point.

# Apr 6, 2006 @ 9:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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44. tngocke writes:

Its nice to have a cd come out that i, and others actually gives a sh** about. I hate the radio but i will be tuning in on april 17. I think that music is hurting bad and tool is the one band that is saving the music industry. BUY THE ALBUM DONT DOWNLOAD IT.

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45. tngocke writes:

And Chris Patton is a TOOL

# Apr 7, 2006 @ 2:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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46. Ryan writes:

Does 27.39726027397260273972602739726 represent anything? I suck a$$ at math... Haha, I'll keep the chant thing in mind so I can laugh at everyone who does it.

# Apr 7, 2006 @ 4:25 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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47. bradispissed writes:

lol i'm pretty sure 27.39726027397260273972602739726


is the reason maynard is partial to the european fanbase.

# Apr 7, 2006 @ 6:19 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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48. JT writes:

Just a thought about the "Ignivomous" title that has been thrown about. The word is what was used to describe volcanoes...and Volcano happens to be the band's label...don't know what to make of that...but it could just be a name thrown out there to confuse everyone. Plus...the single is called "Vicarious" which means: "Endured or done by one person substituting for another." So a substitute...as in these names are a substitute for the real ones...and they are enduring our scrutiny in place of the actual works. Just some thoughts.

# Apr 8, 2006 @ 12:12 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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49. Ryan writes:

JT you've got something there... Now my head's spinning even more... Two more f***ing weeks.

# Apr 8, 2006 @ 4:08 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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50. JT writes:

The April newsletter on Toolband.com has some message about the album in it...of course I can't figure it out...but there is something there. The newsletter starts with a question about the album...and then launches into a story about a visit to a site that is held in high regard by UFO enthusiasts. In the story are pictures, one being of the rock that people go out there to see...it has been vandalized over the years...and on the rock appears "TOOL 10,000 Days." Also in the pic is a UFO in the upper left hand corner. There is a message there somewhere. Anyway, if you want to mess around with this subject a little more you should go read the newsletter.

Also, on a side note...I know some people on here have been a little miffed at the fact that some TOOL fans continue to posit opinions and interpretations...and continue to search for an answer that we may not find until the album actually comes out...and to you people I say...this is half the fun of being a TOOL fan...the constant questioning...the mystery...the journey. So, while I guess some may see it as a little ridiculous or strange...I see it as part of the process.

# Apr 8, 2006 @ 2:37 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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51. Ryan writes:

I wish I could analyze all this like you are... I feel so blind.

# Apr 8, 2006 @ 4:01 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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52. Saviour writes:

Alright, there was one person in this whole damned thing that was REAL close.

10,000 devided by 365.25... remember, we do have leap years, so, each year is 365 and a 1/4. That will give you... 27.378. We can of course round this up to 27. 38. Take a long hard look at those numbers.

Just in case you haven't gotten it by now. Add them. It equals 9.11... there's your friggin' answer. How about the word "days?" Anyone familiar with numerology? I am. D equals 4, A equals 1, Y equals 7, S equals 1. Add those together. You get 13. If you don't see the significance in those numbers then you don't really need to be reading my post.

I can't say whether or not all the info we have is true or false, but, I can see how it would be both. This is either the truth, or an ELABORATE hoax.

# Apr 8, 2006 @ 5:00 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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53. nathan writes:

The artwork is right. The name is right. The CD release date is right. The track names and lengths are right. How old IS everyone in this forum? On May 2nd, don't any of you be surprised to go to the store to pick up the new Tool album, 10,000 Days, and hear the sounds of Vicarious (Which in fact means "Felt or undergone as if one were taking part in the experience or feelings of another", also according to Dictionary.com) fill your ears. Last year's April Fool's day joke makes sense. It didn't involve release dates and phony song titles and fake band rehearsals. I mean, you can make all of this be fake. You can twist this any way you want. You can say the name of the new Tool album is, "Big Yellow Fish" or that Tool broke up 2 years ago and their "album" is just a public announcement going out on May 2nd about their break-up. I mean you can say that the band Tool itself never really existed. You were fooled when you saw them in concert. There has never been a record put out by four members named Danny, Maynard, Justin, and Adam. Just think about it. Life isn't all about assuming things are different than they appear. If Tool was doing such a stupid and childish thing, it would have no reason and it would be stupid, to be redundant.

Maynard: "Oh hey guys, let's make our fans think that our album has a different name so then we can jack off watching them get frustrated."

Adam: "WOW! What a good idea. Way to follow up the Jesus one from last year!"

Danny: "Are you sure they'll buy it? I mean it is really intelligent and very well thought out. I mean even a preschooler could lie like that..."

Justin: "Holy cow, preschoolers are that smart? I would never have guessed. I bet we'll still get our fans though!"

Maynard: "Yup, let's get 'em guys!"

Maynard, Danny, Adam, Justin: "GO TEAM GO! GO TEAM GO!"

Tool is not a bunch of Junior High morons thinking that they will lie to you all to get some sort of reward of excitement. The finding of Jesus, however, seems to be a popular trend that Maynard felt the urge to mock. Seriously, you guys should not be disappointed with anything. Don't download your music, don't trust the various internet sites dedicated to finding out what Tool really is up to. Just go buy the CD and listen to a really great album. It's coming out in a little less than a month, so be happy....

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54. RememberMetal? writes:

I get to hold you to that nathan.

Not --one-- press article has said anything more than "tentatively" titled 10,000 days....Tool haven't missed an April fools joke in 10 years why would they not do one at the advent of a new album...

I'm not saying the titles, art running time etc are wrong but I'm going to be suspect of them until I own a copy. Furthermore, they've done the fake title thing before with Lateralus, but it was clear to everyone those were fake. These aren't so far fetched....

Maynard f***s with the fans at most live shows....Getting the crowd to chant things that make them look like the sheep that they are (myself included)...

Tool DO infact get off on this sh**, but they're making their fans slightly more astute as a result.

# Apr 8, 2006 @ 8:39 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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55. nathan writes:

Yeah, I do think that they owe us an April Fool's joke. Another thing to keep in mind is that they most likely would not have repeated a previously used joke, such as the fake title for the Lateralus CD. I have also found other websites in Russian that refer to Tool's new album as "10,000 Days" as well. Having a falsely advertised product on Amazon.com could potentially end up in a lawsuit which I'm sure would not be good for the band. I just would hope the release date's no joke unless it's out in stores before any of us thought. The best thing in all of this is another Tool album and I've been watching that website for a long time, so I'm pretty sure it's [the album] is coming.

# Apr 8, 2006 @ 9:39 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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56. DD&B writes:

everything tool has done in the past has been a metaphore, everything means something else. yes, my first thought that came to mind when i heard the title was "....WTF.....thats disturbedish.....thats not like tool to be putting something out that would be so closely compared to another band..." somethings up, but thats the whole point. something so monumental as a new tool album, has to have an air of mystrey to it.........

oh... and remember....."the answer is right in front of your face"

ABW

# Apr 9, 2006 @ 2:29 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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57. Ryan writes:

I dunno as much as I think this could all be the real deal, I kinda want to keep going with all this analytic thinking sh**. It makes us use our brains more and actually gain some intelligence in the process. Saviour's post f***ed with my head. Being terrible at math, I would've never came up with something like that. I guess the anticipation has me going so much, I want something to keep my mind in the excitement and what better way than to think everything out and figure out its significance?

I apologize if this sounds like one big pointless ramble because it most likely is...

# Apr 9, 2006 @ 4:33 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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58. Ryan writes:

analytical*

# Apr 9, 2006 @ 4:33 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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59. JT writes:

Ryan...your statements aren't pointless. In fact I think you have it right. This process is necessary to get us thinking...and once the album is revealed...no matter what the album title, song titles, song lengths, and artwork end up being...we will continue the process...just with more information at our disposal. There is an interview on YouTube that TOOL did overseas recently that might help people understand their frame of mind a little better. I'll grab the link and post it here later.

# Apr 9, 2006 @ 2:48 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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60. JT writes:

Here is the link:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=21CMr6m1BxE

I was mistaken about the timing of the interview...it seems to have been done after Lateralus was released. Anyway, what they say still kind of gives you a glimpse at where they stand on a lot of issues. The discussion that pertains to some of the conversation we've had on this post comes at the end when Danny and Adam talk about there being no mystery left in the industry, and that there is no vulnerability. Some of those comments, I think, speak directly to the issue of fake titles and things of the like. Enjoy...it runs about 22 minutes.

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61. wildman writes:

i remember reading an interview danny carey did, he said this would be a political album. the 9/11 reference could be right if u mess around with the number 10,000. whatever it is I cant wait to hear the record and go to a tool concert to see what maynard wears.

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62. wildman writes:

i remember reading an interview danny carey did, he said this would be a political album. the 9/11 reference could be right if u mess around with the number 10,000. whatever it is I cant wait to hear the record and go to a tool concert to see what maynard wears.

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63. layne staley writes:

i want heroin

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64. alexyoung writes:

i see 10,000 days as bullsh** as well because tool is an very very creative mind and i highly doubt that a simple title such as that wuld be anything tool wuld even pretend to have created..i dont give a f*** though because it is TOOL DAMMIT ryan is right thinking about all of these things does make us more intelligent maynard is probably sitting on his a$$ drinking beer thinking "dam i make myself seem like an a$$hole but at least it gets my fans thinking" and its true bottom line is no matter the name of the album the tracks or the length TOOL IS COMING OUT WITH A NEW ALBUM that is the best news ive heard in awhile so in may go pick it up and listen to the amazing 4 some which is tool

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65. Ryan writes:

JT, thanks for the link. I think I've seen that before, it's a good interview...

Random comment: Heh... I forgot how deep Danny's voice is.

Anyway, yeah... I guess I did have something when I made the intelligent comment, I'd forgotten I said that. Well... I don't know what to say now, so... uhhh, yeah...

# Apr 11, 2006 @ 1:13 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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66. wildthang06 writes:

TOOLS ROCKS ,ROCK ROCKS WHAT ELSE IS THERE?!

# Apr 11, 2006 @ 9:50 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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67. bill writes:

I dont even think ignovimous is even a word. ignivomous however means vomiting fire in latin, could that be the title?

# Apr 11, 2006 @ 11:08 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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68. Dustin writes:

"Would not a rose by any other name smell as sweet?"

Whether the name of this album be 10,000 days, Ignovimous, or Drunken Fornication . . . it will be a new Tool album. The first in five years. Nothing. Else. Matters. Let 'um f*** with us. Take it in the a$$ like the loyal fan that you are. March into your local CD store on Tuesday May 2 and ask the clerk at the counter for the new Tool album, whatever the hell it's called. Go home, listen to it, and laugh. Laugh if you figured them out. Laugh if they fooled you and sent you on a tear for nothing. Laugh and cry tears of joy - Tool fills your ears once more. Nothing. Else. Matters.

# Apr 11, 2006 @ 11:52 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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69. JT writes:

You are right Bill...the word is Ignivomous not Ignovimous. The person who originally brought that up on here claimed to have some secret knowledge. And while that sounds more TOOLish...it's also the word that was used to refer to volcanoes...and VOLCANO is Tool's label...leads me to believe that some creativity by a fan had something to do with that name being put out there...but in keeping in tune with my other posts...we won't know for sure until May 2nd...and until then we can keep having fun with this one.

# Apr 11, 2006 @ 5:26 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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70. stephen writes:

the first single is called vicarious. people claim they downloaded snippets of doom3 intro. one of the studios involved in doom3's production was called vicarious visions. it flashes on the screen at the beginning. just fyi in case no one picked up on it.

# Apr 12, 2006 @ 12:22 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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71. why writes:

i like tool...

# Apr 12, 2006 @ 2:05 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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72. TRyP writes:

Think about it.. what's the biggest April Fools' joke Tool could play on everybody who is anticipating a new album coming soon and of course, expecting an April Fools' joke from Tool, who always throws out crazy April Fools' jokes.. Think about the chaos that ensues every time an utter about Tool appears in a music magazine or a website. From what I can see, the April Fools' joke is that there is no April Fools' joke, they just want to see what all will be stirred up without the april fools' joke.. Make sense? makes perfect sense to me.

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73. psythe writes:

TRyP; I can see your point, and progression of logic, but I was discounting that theory simply because it's too obvious and predictable, exactly what Tool are not. And besides, if they were going to do that, and not change the album name, track names/listing, artwork, etc, you would think that what they have released would be a little more...well, a little more like Tool. I admit that it is very 'Tool' for the names to have many different ways of being analysed, as does the current version of names and such, but...well, it just doesn't feel right. and I know that that's not grounded on any actual hard facts or information. Still, I am choosing to believe that there will, when the album comes out, be a new list of names attached to the songs and album.

On the other hand, perhaps the April Fool's joke was simply that they AREN'T going to tell us what the changes are, and leave everyone thinking it's still called 10K Days, etc until they actually walk into the CD Shop, see it and buy it in person. I mean, Hells, if they never changed the names on the net it'd cause absolute - well, Hells - for those that downloaded it (or tried, my guess being it WON'T be released on the internet save for through dot com businesses where you still actually have to pay for the album).

# Apr 12, 2006 @ 4:39 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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74. Saviour writes:

It's April 12th right now. We'll all find out on the 17th correct? Doesn't seem like it would be a good idea to put your first single on the radio for the first time under a false name. Then again, who knows? Maybe the song won't even get air-time as has been suggested? I'm sitting just where many people seem to be. The album will be released in May. We'll all have a lovely chance to sit down and listen to it then, regardless of any changes, or none at all. That is to say that they won't all be sold out that first day. I'm assuming that this album won't be any different from the rest. We sit here and drive ourselves nuts trying to figure out what the hell they are talking about even before the album is out, then we buy it, and months later we're still trying to figure out what's going on. heh It's no matter. It's coming out. That's all that matters.

# Apr 12, 2006 @ 8:38 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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75. anathema_nk writes:

dont know man where the old tool touch is gone

# Apr 12, 2006 @ 9:53 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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76. soldieroftheprophetmaynard writes:

who cares what the title is, alot of you seem to be missing the most important thing . . . NEW TOOL. if the title was DOGsh** ON A SHOE IN A MINOR, i would still be selling my blood to afford a copy

# Apr 12, 2006 @ 2:14 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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77. Fargas writes:

I agree with soldieroftheprophetmaynard, regardless of the titles I think it's going to be a great album anyways, the band has given us surprises since Opiate and I really doubt that they will dissapoint us now. Loking forward to seeing that new video and hearing the song as well. I'm just waiting for the album to come out and I have a feeling that we're all going to have a big laugh when it's finally revealed, or maybe we're going to laugh on monday.

# Apr 12, 2006 @ 3:46 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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78. RememberMetal? writes:

Tool go out of their way to make everything about their new albums striking....The track titles, the album art, the video for the single.

Everything I remember about all the activity from the AEnima and Lateralus releases was how grand, overwhelming and unique all of the creative material was. This will be no differnt.

If Tool is indeed f***ing with everyone, which they may be, their age old motif of "Think for yourself question authority" may even point directly back to the band...It sounds like a stretch but maybe they want us to think for ourselves when it comes to trusting what they're (and the media by default) telling us....

Or maybe those kind of weak titles are the real deal....Can't wait to till May 2nd though...

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79. Anonymous writes:

This is soooo gay....

Don't you people have anything better to do?

# Apr 12, 2006 @ 6:15 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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80. JT writes:

I didn't know that talking about a new record and its potential content was a trait of homosexuality...what a revelation...I need some time to let that soak in...I have to do some thinking about myself and apparently my sexuality...I'll see you all later...once I've figured this all out.

# Apr 12, 2006 @ 7:14 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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81. Ryan writes:

Ænima is still probably the best Tool album in many people's eyes. When that time gap hit, we were all doing what we were doing now; wondering what new Tool will sound like. As soon as Lateralus hit, what was everyone's reactions? I was sure as hell blown away... Just think how amazing this is going to sound. I highly doubt a downfall.

# Apr 12, 2006 @ 10:41 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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82. Ryan writes:

JT, that was great.

# Apr 12, 2006 @ 10:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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83. JT writes:

Thanks...maybe someday I'll be able to come to grips with this fact...and be able to talk about the TOOL album openly again...someday...someday (repeat and fade)

# Apr 12, 2006 @ 11:00 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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84. SeeYouAuntie writes:

Here's something to think about: TOOL-MAY 2nd.....that's all that matters. A release date and the simple band name to a very complex and unique sounding band that we've all listened to for over a decade: Tool's new album comes out May 2nd.

Relax. Get in your car, go to Best Buy,Tower Records,or buy it offline. When you get the album, get past the plastic packaging, open the case, insert the disc into your cd player/computer/stereo and just listen to it. That's all that matters.

# Apr 13, 2006 @ 12:53 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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85. slayerdisciple writes:

less then a month cant wait

# Apr 13, 2006 @ 1:24 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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86. D.Dragon writes:

Why are you people so quick to say that the song titles are not very "toolish"? Keep in mind these are the same people who have songs called "Jerk Off", "Maynard's d***" and "Prison Sex"

# Apr 13, 2006 @ 7:29 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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87. Roland138 writes:

Ooooohhhhhh. I've got more gasoline for this fire. Maynard's birthday is April 17th (as cited on both IMDB and Wikipedia - check my sources); the same as "Vicarious." Also, um, well toolshed.down.net(since 1995, b****e$) reports that there was, in fact, an April Fools hoax. Fake listening parties ringing a bell? No? Then I recommend going to the aforementioned site and edifying yourself. You guys are entertaining.

# Apr 13, 2006 @ 11:55 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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88. Scorched_Earth writes:

Anonymous, apparently you have nothing better to do than talk sh** about people who have nothing better to do...? Nice...

# Apr 13, 2006 @ 2:30 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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89. saviour writes:

This is true, there already was a hoax. What about the fake song that was posted on Tool's page via myspace.com... it's gone now, but, it was intertaining from what I've heard.

# Apr 13, 2006 @ 8:41 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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90. ?A????? ???E? ??????N writes:

I have read all of your comments, trust me.

Be prepared for a suprise.

Everything everyone thinks they know about the album, will kick themselves in the a$$ for believing such.

Just wait it out.

It's worth the wait.

# Apr 14, 2006 @ 12:56 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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91. Ryan writes:

Damn, so... me thinking this album is going to kick a$$ will be wrong and the album will suck ass? Man... what a let down.

*End Sarcasm*

# Apr 14, 2006 @ 2:42 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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92. VoiceOfReason writes:

You all are playing right into the trap.
All of this over analysing is exactly the type of thing that makes you sheep in the first place. Think about the song "Lateralus" and think about what he says, "Over thinking, over analysing seperates the body from the mind." In other words you have to "embrace the random" don't go into the new album with certain expectations and limitations ... accept what you hear and enjoy the new record. Also, Tool has some rather "unique" song names like "Hooker with a p***s" for example. Speaking of which, Tool is trying to sell records. Bottom line. Sure, they're going to be creative and are going to expand the borders of music and our minds once again, but they do so for monetary gain. Anyone who thinks otherwise is an ignoramous.

"All you know about me is what I've sold you, Dumb f***. I sold out long before you ever heard my name. I sold my soul to make a record, Dip sh**, And you bought one. All you read and Wear or see and Hear on TV Is a product Begging for your Fatass dirty Dollar So ... Shut up and Buy my new record Send more money f*** you, buddy."

Hmmm ... does it all seem clear now.

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93. VoiceOfReason writes:

And on another note. I firmly believe that those are the "REAL" track titles and that is the "REAL" album that we are going to see on May 2nd. Considering that there was already a hoax this year it doesn't make sense for them to pull another one. Let Tool be Tool, and you be a good little consumer and go by their product, because ... hell ... you're going to regardless.

# Apr 14, 2006 @ 10:15 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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94. JT writes:

In my opinion, Lateralus is speaking about allowing yourself to be vulnerable...to open your mind to all things..."beckons me to look through to these infinte possibilities"... "I'm reaching for the random or what ever will bewilder me." We aren't looking for answers in this discussion...we are embracing all things that the album will and will not be. Lateralus is about leaving the individual self behind and embracing our collective nature. Just my thoughts.

# Apr 14, 2006 @ 10:28 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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95. VoiceOfReason writes:

Me again, I just thought of something else.
Tool is always changing and always evolving. This album is not Anema ... It isn't Undertow ... and it's not Lateralus or Opiate or ... whatever ... It's 10000 days. And it's very "Tool" to do something that surprises everyone and give us a new perspective on the band as a whole. Take what your given and enjoy what is sure to be a mind-altering experiance.

# Apr 14, 2006 @ 10:29 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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96. VoiceOfReason writes:

Well JT, I'll have to agree ... you are 100% right. Open your mind to all things, be vunerable, and look through to the infinite possiblities that abound. But you can apply that philosophy to many areas of your life as well as this discussion. If and when Tool releases the album 10000 Days, I garuntee it will shatter any pre-concieved notions we all have about what Tool "is" and what Tool "isn't"
So be open to new ideas and experiances, don't limit yourself, but also understand the corporate backbone to the record selling process and don't be blind to the fact that maybe ... just maybe ... Maynard wants your money every bit as much as the Execs that control him.
Spiral out.

# Apr 14, 2006 @ 10:37 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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97. JT writes:

Of course he wants my money...he runs a business...bands are businesses...and businesses by definition are a profit seeking venture. I have no qulams with that. I am eternally open-minded...TOOL after all is just that...a tool...not an answer...not the way...not the solution to all the problems in our world...they are simply a tool...to help us understand just a little more...and push us past the level of consciousness we now occupy. If one truly listens to the message...it's not to stop with them and be satisfied with what they have to offer...it's to seek more. My part in this discussion was merely to embrace the mystery or perceived mystery that surrounds the band's latest release and roll around in ideas for a while...that's all.

# Apr 14, 2006 @ 10:55 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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98. VoiceOfReason writes:

Touche'
JT what you say makes sense and is actually in agreement with much of what I have previously stated. Maybe, i shouldn't be so limited myself eh?

# Apr 14, 2006 @ 11:09 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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99. VoiceOfReason writes:

But you must admit, no matter what you "try" to accomplish, the "trying" is what makes you a follower, but in that case everyone is a follower ... everyone follows something or someone so no matter what we try to achieve we are all sheep ... Maynard included ... but the question is ... are you a happy and content sheep?

# Apr 14, 2006 @ 11:14 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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100. VoiceOfreason writes:

Tool engages questioning minds and oversteps certain boundries all the time and leaves us with what's left behind ... more questions.

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101. Ender writes:

(86/100) by D.Dragon on Apr 13, 2006 @ 7:29 AM ET | IP Logged
Why are you people so quick to say that the song titles are not very "toolish"? Keep in mind these are the same people who have songs called "Jerk Off", "Maynard's d***" and "Prison Sex"


The only album that had the names that they're b**ching about missing is Lateralus. They're retarded and don't know anything about the band. None of us do. Who the hell do all of you think you are? Maynard? Stfu up and listen to his music and stop your complaining you little girls.


(94/100) by JT on Apr 14, 2006 @ 10:28 AM ET | IP Logged
In my opinion, Lateralus is speaking about allowing yourself to be vulnerable...to open your mind to all things..."beckons me to look through to these infinte possibilities"... "I'm reaching for the random or what ever will bewilder me." We aren't looking for answers in this discussion...we are embracing all things that the album will and will not be. Lateralus is about leaving the individual self behind and embracing our collective nature. Just my thoughts.

The album is going to be exactly what the band wants it to be and you have absolutely no say in it. None of us do. So let's just get over it. i think the single sounds amazing (bit torrent it if you want it) so I think it would be appreciated if everyone just stfu and waited for the album.

# Apr 14, 2006 @ 1:25 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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102. JT writes:

Yes...let's stop all this nonsensical chatter...let's go against our nature as free-thinking beings and shut all this down...in fact...shut this site down...because it is filled with individuals discussing music that that they have no right to discuss...and hell they don't impact the music anyway...none of us do...so we should all just shut the f*** up. No more thoughts and ideas here...and we will all be better off.

OK...let me make some non-sarcastic remarks.

VOICE OF REASON...I was reading through Bill Hicks' "Love All the People" and he has in there a note he sent to a religion "enthusiast" who was offended by what he had said. They apparently engaged in a fair bit of correspndence. In the end...Hicks told the guy...who had been asking what he thought his purpose was...that he saw himself as a shaman. Hicks said that he was a shaman who came in the form of a comedian...which he felt was unfortunate because it is a little harder to get people to take you seriously in that field. But he described his job as taking circles and turning them into spirals for the crowd...as an attempt to show them more depth in their existence...to help them seek truth and knowledge...whatever that happened to be. I see TOOL as doing the same thing...in fact I think that is what they are referencing when they say "spiral out" in Lateralus. So they exist to transform something that we see one way...not in a way that tells us to stop and say "hey that is a spiral...cool...I like spirals"...but to keep going...that's where I think the vulnerability comes in...hence the lyrics. We are all followers at some level. Even if I believe we are all one, connected through the collective unconscious...I sure as hell didn't come up with that idea...I have follwed someones lead...now it is up to me...to decide where to go with that...like you said...how content of a sheep are you? Their attempt to do this in a business that feeds on mediocrity and sameness is something that I respect. I just try not to hold them up too high, because of the points you made.

Anyway, I am not sure what prompted these comments...but there they are. Talk to you soon.

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103. Ryan writes:

HAHAHA! You're an idiot!

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104. Ryan writes:

Oh sorry... "ze idiot".

# Apr 14, 2006 @ 6:55 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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105. recockulis writes:

hey coco,
you give french people a bad name.

# Apr 14, 2006 @ 7:39 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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106. psythe writes:

-sighs- and the discussion was going so well only a couple of posts ago with JT and VOR.

# Apr 14, 2006 @ 8:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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107. Ryan writes:

Coco, I'm not even going argue with you on that. All I'm going to say is grow the f*** up.

# Apr 14, 2006 @ 9:53 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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108. JT writes:

Funny...I thought I might come back on and see some responses to what I wrote...I guess that was a very arrogant assumption to make. Oh well...it was fun while it lasted.

# Apr 14, 2006 @ 11:15 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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109. nathan writes:

hey, just a random question kind of...going with the themes of reaching out for the random and such, but why do people in here listen to tool? it was funny cuz the other day i was thinking, "hmm maybe i shouldn't buy the new album because that's exactly what the name tool seems to say. that's the best name to name a band. anyone who follows it just becomes a tool. maynard always says think for yourself, so maybe i shouldn't be buying his record...haha that's weird." but yeah just kind of wanted to get everyone's reasons and such for listening to tool. like what does it do for you, how does it make you feel, where do you go inside when you take it all in? are you focused on the lyrics moreso than the other parts or how is it all in a ratio? just some interesting stuff i thought would come out of replies to this question.

# Apr 15, 2006 @ 12:02 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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110. tool fan writes:

nathan listening to TOOL cant be described in words, If you have ever been to one of thier concerts you would know.... standing in the dark in the front row in silence and when that first note hits and teh place erupts THATS what its like everytime I hear TOOL. and as for the new album and single who cares what its named if toll put thier heart into it it will rock. I'm not condoning downloading of music but i have some reliable sources and have just downloaded 3 seperate versions of "Vicarious" and it sounds 100% toolesque to me even if the "bass" doesn't does not mean someone cant change how they play. to end my mindless babling I will be first inline the day this album comes out no matter what the outcome.

# Apr 15, 2006 @ 1:27 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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111. tool fan writes:

*edit*
who cares what its named if TOOL put thier heart

# Apr 15, 2006 @ 1:30 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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112. cakemeat writes:

http://www.zuggalos.com/Tool%20-%20Vicarious.mp3

I havent bother trying to find any leaked sh**, i can wait... and of course buy.. im Loyal.

MY friend sent me this link.. and,,. Im very skeptic... this seems to be like a Style-ripped version from a tool-cover band... i dunno. could be wrong.. BUt if this is indeed there studio-recording.. im dissapointed in this track... But hey.. you cant win em all.

# Apr 15, 2006 @ 1:37 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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113. Ryan writes:

Vicarious is f***ing awesome... I found the real thing.

# Apr 15, 2006 @ 2:41 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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114. Ryan writes:

Which doesn't mean I'm not going to go and buy the album. I'm f***ing getting that.

# Apr 15, 2006 @ 2:42 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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115. dustjunk writes:

Here is Vacarious - great song, definitly buying the album as soon as it comes out

http://beta.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=77A1AE346AA2E78E

# Apr 15, 2006 @ 3:33 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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116. Dratzy writes:

The Single was leaked and it is Damn Damn good. A lot of schism like sounds and structure. IMO Schism was their best song, so I think that they realized this and continued to allow thier style to evolve based on thier strengths. This makes for a great album I can't wait.

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117. Ryan writes:

Yeah, it does have a Schism feel to it. Ah man, it's so f***ing good...

# Apr 15, 2006 @ 4:54 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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118. Obey The Octopus writes:

Alright, after listening to the single multiple times, here's my best shot at the lyrics....

Eyes On the TV
Cause tragedy thrills me
Whatever flavor it happens to be likened
By the husband
Drowned by the ocean
Shot by his own son
Kill me with the poison

?
?
The spotlight story?
It’s now the front til someone dies

Don’t look at me like I am a monster
Thought out your one face
But with the other
Stare like a junkie
Into the TV
Stare like a zombie
Whatever mother

There’s a child
Watches him die
Peers to the sky crying
Why Oh Why?

Cause I need to watch things die
From a distance
Vicariously
I live while the whole world dies
You all need to ?

Why can’t we just admit it?
Why can’t we just admit it?
We won’t give pause until the blood is flowing
Neither brave nor bold
But why does the story show
We won’t give pause until the blood is flowing?

I need to watch things die
From a good safe distance
Vicariously
I live while the whole world dies
You all feel the same so
Why can’t we just admit it?

Love like rain falling down
Trouble brave and bound
God sent fire hot ?
War to come?
Live for Him?
For your step?
Heaven sent
To the depth
Battle
La la la la la la lie

(Spoken soundbite)

Credulous to death
As long as I am to believe in
Angels in the hearts of men
Pull your head on out you hippies? and give a listen
Shouldn’t have to say it all again
The universe is hostile
So impossible
Devour choose of us
So it is
So it’s always been

We all feed the tragedy
? you vampire

Vicariously I
Live while the whole world dies

Please feel free to fill in the blanks.

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119. ObeyTheOctopus writes:

Whoops, forgot one line in there
It should read

Heaven sent
We shall sink
To the depth...

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120. psythe writes:

crazy, man - anyone got any ideas as to what they might be trying to imply/connotate/etc? lyrics look pretty tool in parts. crazy.

# Apr 15, 2006 @ 5:55 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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121. D.Dragon writes:

Okay. I gave the song one spin tonight.. personally I don't find it melodious enough. nowhere near as "sing along-able" as Schism or Lateralus or even The Grudge.
I think Maynard is taking too much of his influence from APC. Tool is a different kind of creature, but who am I to say what a band is supposed to sound like? I'll have to give the whole album a listen before I judge completely.

Overall, unimpressed.

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122. D.Dragon writes:

Did I say Lateralus? I meant Parabol(a) Although Lateralus is pretty sing-along-able too

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123. Horoldo writes:

Maybe Tool are putting out all these different versions of Vacarious. That may be the catch 22.

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124. LooT A RuoY writes:

I cannot and will not ever understand why people on underground forums sit and analyze other peoples music when you could not do it yourself. First off... Art is someones form of self expression... I really do think comparing this to APC or saying its not melodic enough is even your places. And I really do not think any member of tool really gave a sh** when writing this music if you would like it or not. Its not about you... Its about the artist creating their art and putting it out there, if you get something from it, good, if you do not, fine. But in the end being a critic only makes you look like every other turd in the media and underground who likes to be an elitist and put their opinion out there. i personally respect Tool because they are the last band from the grunge era who still plays by there own rules. And if Maynard recording himself taking a sh** over the new single I think you would still analyze it and make silly comments like "But what does the sh** mean". At any rate, now that I have caused a stir... It comes out in a couple weeks buy it, dont download it, because Tool is a band that deserves the record sales and has the potential to keep the small sliver of Rock and Roll that is left alive.... Thanks...

Oh ya... Slayer Rocks, and Metal lives and whatnot... :)

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125. mike mitchell writes:

This album will definetly out-do the other Tool albums, they just get better and better.....i dont care what the songs are titled, i dont care about the album title.as long as the music is good then i will be happy. If there is some signifigance to all the titles and "10 000 days" then thast great too....but all of us as Tool fans should be able to realize now what a great and original band Tool is and that no matter what they release it wont be like thst simple sh** we hear on the radio......tool is like an extra terrestrial force.to this day we still dont completely know the meanings of everything that is to be known of the band. The cover of 10 000 days is great..i just saw it in a record store the other day.....I'm pretty sure that "10 000 days" is the real title.....TOOL is my inspiration that i can do just what they are doing, i can create my own art, lyrics, and music(which i do).Tool is the best band that i have ever heard.

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126. dmtking writes:

lyric correction "Shot by his own son
Kill me with the poison,
?
Kissed her goodbye
it's no fun till someone dies

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127. supbiotch writes:

i find it funny that people come on here and talk sh**. Number one why do you give a flying f*** if people want to discuss one of their favorite bands. How does that affect you in any way. For you to put "don't you have something better to do" is the most rediculous thing i've ever heard because YOU have nothing better to do than go and talk anonymous sh**.

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128. supbiotch writes:

and also, I'M GOING TO SEE THEM AT COACHELLA FLYING MY NOW BROKE a$$ ALL THE WAY FROM NEW YORK f*** YEAH f*** YEAH f*** YEAH f*** EAH f*** YEAHYEAHEYAHEYAH!!!!!!!!!!!! FIFTEEN f***ING DAYS I GET TO SEE THEM FOR THE FIRSST TIME I'LL BE HEARING THE NEW sh** FOR THE FIRST TIME

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129. Ryan writes:

LooT A RuoY, I couldn't agree more. I have that same view when I make music. I don't give a f*** what everyone else thinks, I'm making it to express myself. I hate when bands make music for publicity sake or money sake. Do it cause you enjoy it...

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130. Ryan writes:

...and well said supbiotch.

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131. Vae Victus writes:

Just Heard It For The First Time, And Also Downloaded That Doom Intro Aswell (not bad lol) .. ..
What Can I Say?

Its Obviously An Angrier Tool, And I Think Its Quite Political, (totalitarian government rules the world using the media in order to keep people stupid, partitioning off information in such a way that .. .. oh woops) Sorry About The Rant, We Love It, We're In New Zealand, And We Love The New Song, Sounded Semi Schism At First, But Its On Pretty Hard Out Repeat Right Now ..

God Bless America ~LOL~

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132. roger writes:

i think it is pathetic that some of you are actually seriously discussing the title of the new tool album, as if the title has ANYTHING to do with the quality of the music. as for myself, i could care less what they have decided to call their new album, or whether or not the TOOL logo looks like FOOL, thus far Tool has released one EP and three full length albums that have raised the bar for what metal music can and should be. as far as i am concerned, they are one of the few untouchables in metal music today. you need to stop discussing trivial things pertaining to this band, it makes you look like a gigantic, sweltering dumba**.

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133. Ryan writes:

Hate to bring down your rant but if you've read the latest posts, none of us give a sh** about the name of the album anymore because we're talking about Vicarious.

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134. rippedlifemusic writes:

Hey... that link http://beta.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=77A1 AE346AA2E78E seems to be f***ed up... it doesn't work anymore.. could you upload the file somewhere else and send a link? thanx

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135. Ryan writes:

Go on to the Tool Hotline (via www.theninhotline.net) and click the link to the "leak" some people posted some links there.

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136. Saikatanas writes:

Are you fuking unbrained? why the fuk are u comparing APC to Tool? expecially this music! lol have u seen in a mirror MORON???? the only difference of this music to the rest of tool content is the explicit woirds, maybe they are really fuked up with the world, and everyone that doesnt understand the basics of the musics. they want to be explicit maybe to tell the message to more people. that's what i think. 10000 days means something u stupid morons just dont know and discuss it has a quallity stuff. maybe it's quallity its the max, because not even Tool fans understand why 10000 days.

Yah, and i'm with coco

God curse America (its alreaddy cursed, so...)

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137. Ryan writes:

Yeah... being an American, I'll agree with that last statement. Bush has really f***ed this country over. But I'm going to end that there, this is a Tool board not a political debate.

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138. Ryan writes:

Yeah... being an American, I'll agree with that last statement. Bush has really f***ed this country over. But I'm going to end that there, this is a Tool board not a political debate.

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139. Ryan writes:

Sorry about that... accidentally clicked twice.

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140. bradispissed writes:

meshuggah beats tool in a game of inches


meshuggah ends up being like 13 inches because they can like life weights with their junk

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141. bradispissed writes:

*lift

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142. tool suck writes:

tool sucks mother f***ing c*** sucking b**** a$$ d***.

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143. JT writes:

I went against my better judgement and listened to the leaked single. I say against my better judgement because when I read about it getting leaked I thought I could actually wait until Monday...I mean, what's another 2 days after waiting 5 years? Well, apparently too long.

And for anyone that is looking for easier access than a bit torrent...there is someone on MySpace that has started a "band" page named Vicarious from Los Angeles, CA. Just do a music search for a band named "Vicarious" and look for the one from LA. The song is there to listen to, and is available for download. It also has the lyrics.

Analysis...hmmm...I have to listen to it several more times to even begin to digest. My first impression...it is interesting. The tone of the lyrics seems more sharp-tongued and angsty...more in line with Aenima. However the music side of it is harder to pin down...I can hear the Lateralus-like feel...but it is distinct to be sure. I cannot quite express what it is...let's see if this makes sense...it's like the mentality of Aenima was pushed through a Lateralus filter...creating something that is neither Aenima nor Lateralus...but reminiscent of them both. Anyway, that is my first impression. I have read some of the reactions on here...what does everyone else think?

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144. Ryan writes:

I agree. It has a little bit of Ænima and Lateralus combined. The intro of the song reminds me of a combination of Push** and The Patient. Then once the song starts it's as you said, Ænima-eqsque pushed through a Lateralus filter. You're right, the song is nearly indescribable but I'm getting even more and more anxious to hear the whole album now. I can already say without hearing it that this album will be my favorite. Before you all through your banter at me for that statement, listen to my logic. The way I see it, have we ever been disappointed with the rest of the album once we heard the first single? I mean we heard Schism and we though, damn... this kicks ass. Then as soon as we popped in Lateralus, it was more like HOLY sh**! So, now that I've heard Vicarious and was blown away... I can say that the album will be 10 times that. Just my thoughts...

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145. Ryan writes:

10,000 times that.*

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146. Ryan writes:

Ænima-esque*

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147. Ryan writes:

Ugh... I just found more typos... f*** it... you know what I'm saying. (Sometimes I hate being a perfectionist.)

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148. xrawbx writes:

If you look in the latest edition of guitar world, they talk abotu the new cd. supposedly there is a song on the cd called "shoes"

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149. xrawbx writes:

there is also a tool tribute/cover band called either schism or songfist....not sure

http://www.toolbandnyc.com

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150. rippedlife writes:

hey! you better check this sh**:
https://www.toolband.com
add the S after the http...
;)

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151. Ryan writes:

Whoa... that's pretty cool rippedlife.

# Apr 15, 2006 @ 11:48 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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152. JT writes:

I think this promises to be an interesting experience...don't worry about the typos...I think your point is clear.

Uhhh...yeah...I listened to the cover band (SCHISM). And while it seems as though their hearts are in the right place...I'm not so sure they should continue this effort. Maybe the live show is better than the clips they have on their site...but judging just from those clips...not so good.

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153. JT writes:

RIPPEDLIFE...was that the 30 second clip that was released by the bands to radio stations to play as a promo for the debut on Monday?

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154. JT writes:

**by the band**

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155. xrawbx writes:

still the same thing...

i jus had a thought....

what if...what if...tool decided to post fake tracks up for some odd reason...think of it like this.. here is a band that hasn't had a cd in over 5 years, and tool is still f***en hot sh** to this day, i dont care what ANYONE says. but...what if they are posting fake songs because they know people will download them, and to keep the hype?? what if that track listing is fake, knowing that we will download it?? just a thought..

oh and so far, if you've downloaded jami and..wings for marie, those are NOT tool songs.. those are isis songs. they are both "the other" off of isis' cd "oceanic". the "actual" version of Wings pt. 1 is HORRIBLE!!!! I'm sorry... i can hardly stand to listen to it...and then 10,00 days...a ukalaelee??? wtf?? i'm starting to think more and more, and hoping more and more that these are fake songs put up by tool...

come to think of it.... i AM right. tool put up these fake a$$ f***ing songs, cuz they knew this would happen....jus goes to show they are one step ahead of the game. way to keep the suspense.

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156. rippedlife writes:

dunno... i never heard the 30 sec clip.. i just entered there minutes ago.. first time i only heard the song.. now you can see the flash animation and the art.. but it matches with the vicarious song i have.

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157. rippedlife writes:

xrawbx.. an interesting opinion.. i thought that too.. what f***s me up is that the song has not the typical silence-intro that past albums have..

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158. Nater writes:

What's different about the https page than the regular http page for Tool?

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159. Zos Kia Cultus writes:

if you are sick and tired off the sh** that passed for music these days try some REAL MUSIC!

Cannibal Corpse - Kill
Torture Killer - Swarm!
Krisiun - Assassination
Kataklysm - In the Arms of Devastation

oh yea...f*** TOOL!!!

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160. xrawbx writes:

yeah...hm.. but i dont get why people would post isis under tool.. there is a difference (at least to me). I could see possibly Nuerosis and isis or cult of luna all getting mixed with each other, and while they do have some similarities, you can easily tell tool from the others....most of the time.

so.... here is what else i have...

6 - lipan conjuring...sounds like tool...no vocals though.. so i think this is an actual track.
7 - lost keys (blame hoffman) sounds like it could be tool, but then again, it could be an instrumental isis track...i really like it, but i get this feeling like i've heard it before. but in the interview with adam jones, he says that there are parts where it's really mellow and everything just drops out, and eventually builds up....hmmm... more on the next coming tracks as soon as i am done.. i am tempted to find out for sure if this is isis or not..

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161. rippedlife writes:

why don't you better f*** you????

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162. rippedlife writes:

andy king's right?

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163. xrawbx writes:

alright... figured it out...

lost keys IS indeed isis... damn i'm good... it's "weight" by isis..

so that's 2 tracks so far taken from isis' cd "oceanic"

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164. rippedlife writes:

Nater: https are for "secured" sites or similars... for xample when you are buying something on the web.. it is like a secure server.. so i guess blake did that and he will post a link or post that site monday or later after the release of the vicarious single.. in the meantime he is keeping that "safe" or at least not visitable for people who enters www.toolband.com

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165. rippedlife writes:

and what do you think if tool released a fake tracklisting.. but only half of it.. the other half is the correct one..?

vicarious is possibly one of the songs the recorded but didnt include in the album.. remember that they made a lot of song and only included 11 of them.. so this can be a distractor.. and the single has another name.. the name of a song that they included in the album..

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166. JT writes:

Not a surprise that Isis is being thrown out there under the TOOL name...look at the last newsletter on TOOLBAND...the one where they go visit the UFO spot...and one of the guys is wearing an Isis shirt...lots of cross-over fans between the two bands.

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167. xrawbx writes:

sadly, i cant get ahold of the vicarious single..

but the 30 second clip is on both versions of the site.. http and https

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168. rippedlife writes:

get it here: www.zuggalos.com/Tool%20-%20Vicarious.mp3

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169. JT writes:

RIPPEDLIFE...I also thought that this may be a track that didn't make the album...just to throw us a bone...but not to expose the actual record...either way...I'll enjoy it for now...and later if I find out it's not on the album...I'll be a little embarrassed that I bought into it...but I'll also get to be happy...because that means I'll have the record in my hands.

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170. xrawbx writes:

sorry i keep posting all this sh**...i'm jus trying to make it known that the songs on limewire are not actual tool songs. i'm a music whore..

so yeah, intension is really isis (go figure) it's the track hym

HOWEVER.... Viginti does sound like an actual tool song, but i could be wrong on this one...

oh and i believe there are a few other tracks that i didn't mention that are isis as well, but all i have to say is, if you download "the new tool cd" download isis' "oceanic" and "panopticon" you will discover the real band..

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171. xrawbx writes:

thankx ripped... is there anyway i can download it in regular mp3 format and not through quicktime?

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172. rippedlife writes:

i'm only getting focused on the vicarious single.. i find it sh**ty and false that the entire album was leaked.. i belive only the vicarious single was leaked.. so i'll wait until may 2nd to get my album.. for now i just need to hear vicarious.. other songs will come in time.. so i guess that limewired songs are Isis's, or other bands, but not Tool..

JT: if it's tool.. they made a great job.. otherwise.. the guys that play that song are great.. so.. the song is amazing.. nothing else matters.. it doesnt matter if it is not Tool... :)

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173. rippedlife writes:

It should be in your temporal files... search for the file.. in the temporal internet files... go to start -->; search-->; and type Vicarious and search in your Hard Drive.. you should find it.. then open the containing folder and just copy the file to other directory.. and you're done..

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174. xrawbx writes:

i like the idea of releasing half and half... but seriously, go onto limewire, and listen to some of the tracks.. it's as if they are trying to shame you for downloading... it's some guy with horrible singing and a ukalaele and some bongos.. i think tool is more than just one up.. they are a whole f_cken ladder up on us

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175. rippedlife writes:

surely.. this album is greater than only a few bongos... I've never heard Isis.. but for today i don't mind.. Some time in the future I'll look for some of their work.. but I guess they are not Tool and not as great as them.. So if songs are so sh**ty.. is better to get the album after may 2nd.. ;)

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176. xrawbx writes:

i am still sticking with my other theory though....i think that they INTENTIONALLY released some sh**ty a$$ f***en songs that were about as horrible as yoko ono's band with her on vocals...and trust me, NOTHING could ever beat that. I knew they weren't tool songs.

Isis is really good. they are a sludge metal..if you can call it that.

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177. Ryan writes:

Jesus... I leave the site for like 5 minutes and I miss a conversation haha. Anyway, yeah... As far as the thing about the intro not being long. Usually singles are cut shorter than the real thing; I kinda hate comparing this, because I hate this song, but KoRn's new song Twisted Transistor has a longer intro than the single does. The LimeWire thing is most likely bullsh**, cause everytime I tried downloading some stuff I heard that ukelele sh**, as well as a band with a lot of screaming amidst melodic music. Or that's what I remember. My opinion is only Vicarious got leaked but it's only the single version. Actually, the more I think of it... That is a good intro track... Ugh... I'm starting to get bombarded with thoughts so I'm just going to stop here so I don't start going into one big ramble.

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178. Vae Victus writes:

Anyone Here Know Anything About A Tool DVD? .. And How About Cradle Of Filth .. They The Shizzle Right

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179. xrawbx writes:

Ryan: that band screamiing admist melodic music is isis

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180. xrawbx writes:

cradle has one called..... candid and heavy left handed if i remember correctly

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181. rippedlife writes:

excellent ryan! i thought the same....!

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182. supbiotch writes:

honestly when i see tool for the first time live at coachella when i'm just tripping my face off, i'm feel that is going to be the best moment of my life.

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183. supbiotch writes:

haha, and, i listened to the tribute band posted, schism and like while i appreciate their attmept and passion for the music i love they kind of butcher it.

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184. RyN writes:

ok, i think that vicarious was purposely "leaked". the song automatically presupposes our reactions to the new song. also, if you guys are right about putting ISIS songs into the fake track list, all i can do is smile. depending on the outcome of the truth of this new record, tool could be the coolest f***in band ever. not that they already weren't, but this would set them apart from anything they've ever done. this could be so f'in awesome.

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185. RyN writes:

also, if this really IS the new single, which it probably is, i think the intro part could pick up where lateralus left off. think of it as the latter album blending into the new. especially since vicarious is the first song.....

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186. Cynic writes:

It'll take will power but I might just save the goodness and avoid the single. The local record store's having a release party so It should be good. Been anticipating this one for a while.

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187. mn writes:

had to D/L the song, especially after hearing ppl talk about it all over the place, even hearing promos about it premiering on the radio. I think it is a great song, the more I listen, the more I want the whole damn album. I don't know if 10,000 days will match my extremely high expectations, but it is off to a good start.

I can see the comparison to schism, occasionally you feel like there is a similar riff, but then the more you hear, it is definitely different. While simple in idea and vocabulary, the lyrics have a lot of emotion. The more I listen, I think the song feels less systematic and calculated than most of the previous stuff, they just decided to let it rip!! Only a few weeks to go, seems like an eternity...come on may 2nd!!!

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188. Ryan writes:

Yeah, the song is kinda simple in vocabulary. It's how Maynard uses the words that make the lyrics as strong as they are. That's what I love most about Maynard, he makes lyrics seem easy.

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189. Renegadellf writes:

Their disappointment will speak the loudest in this album.

Jesus, sometimes I wish the fanbase wasn't composed of so many people filled with pretentious
anxiety and such a virile urge to be ultimately right even in their ignorance.

I swear to god, If I see any more of these people at any point in the tour, I'm taking them out hard and fast. This music is there for a purpose, and nobody knows that purpose more clearly than the ones who composed, recorded, pressed, packaged and sold it. So either shut up and think, or go hunt them down and try not to make a fool of yourself in conversation.

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190. orc writes:

tabu

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191. Ryan writes:

What's wrong with discussing our own views? It's not like if talk to the band we're going to all be saying 'oh yeah I love how this song is about (insert topic unrelated to the song).' I think we've got a LITTE more common sense than that. f***, if I ever got to talk them it'd just be a simple: 'You guys are amazing, I love your work.' I'm not going to be all fan boy and be like 'OMG! YOU GUYS ARE MY FAVORITE BAND! YOU'VE INSPIRED ME SO MUCH!!! OMG OMG OMG!' Why the f*** are you even on here bashing us anyway? Don't you have something better to do with your time?

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192. Vae Victus writes:

He Is Legend Rock ..

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193. Vae Victus writes:

The Single Vicarious Is Absolutely Brilliant, Cant Wait For Tool To Find Their Way Over Here, (NEW ZEALAND) .. If It Wasnt For The Internet So Many People Round The World Would Not Have Been Exposed To Tool, And Then Bought The Albums, I Think You Guys p***yfooting Around Should Download The Track, And Crank It The f*** Up .. ..


Take Mushrooms And Squeejee Your Third Eye ..

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194. HKnight writes:

I think Vicarious is fake. They were supposed to upload the song to a server so radio stations could download it on april 17th. This is the proven method to stop an album single leak (Lincoln Park did it with their last single). The server was supposedly exposed for a few minutes and someone got it and exploited it across the internet on the 15th. Considering that Tool is incredibly mysterious and clever I don't think they would even bother uploading the file to a server two days before its release. Why not wait five minutes before release when you upload it to prevent leaks? I may be completely wrong, but hardcore tool fans want to believe I'm right.

Also, what about the guy working at the printers who uploaded leaked album art (Fourth Eye). He said for some reason the cover page wasn't printing in any areas he had access to. Hmmmm, maybe that's because it carries a different name than "10,000 Days".

I also think it was one of the 'scrapped' songs. when they made the album they made around and recorded about 15 songs but only 11 are on the cd. So, they take one song that didnt make it and leak it to increase hype. The 'scrapped' theory also explains why the recording isn't that great. What happened to rich, dynamic toms like in Lateralus. It all sounds 'muddy' to me. Why are the the vocals, what many consider Tool's greatest strength, so weak and hardly audible. However, the beggining of the song makes perfect sense. It sounds like Lateralus (mainly Schism) then it transitions into the new sound. Tool's website has the intro I'm talking about but it stops short just before the 'new sound'. I think either the 17th release of the song or more likely the actual album will have the same intro but go into a completely different sound.

God I hope I'm right because that's a f***ing awesome idea.


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195. rippedlife writes:

did you copy what i thought?

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196. psythe writes:

hahahahah, post 127, "But what does the shlt mean?" hahahahahahah. that's gold.

bradisp***ed - post 146 - meshuggah and tool are both incredible bands. i'd be hard-put to say which is better by my tastes, though. but a meshuggah-influenced tool, that's GOTTA kick some serious anus.

dunno if this means anything, but on tool's official site (toolband), they posted a news item on the 7th of april entitled "happy birthday camella"...this post is absolutely riddled with the phrase "Blame Hofman"...coincedence? lol, and that is one crazy post, i dont mind telling you. acid trip, anyone? on that note, they refer in the post to acid as being the "Keys to the Kingdom" - now, figuring that LSD is a homophonic synonym of Lost, and that Hofmann appears to be the guy that invented acid on April 7th, no less, the song "Lost Keys (Blame Hofmann)" seems to be coming together quite nicely, don't you think?

# Apr 16, 2006 @ 11:17 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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197. RememberMetal? writes:

The new single is decent, great compared to all other radio acts at the moment, but decent compared to previous Tool endeavors...Then again it may have to grow on me.

I'm not sure how I feel about the mixing but I can't say that the version I heard is 100% cd quality either.
I'd like to hear the oft rumored "heavy" material, as Vicarious is very much a reminder of songs like Schism, Lateralus and H...Maynard needs to be a tiny bit higher in the mix as well....Most singers are way too "out front" but Maynard has the right.

Having heard the single, my anticipation is slightly deminished but I'll still be picking this one up on release date.

# Apr 17, 2006 @ 12:34 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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198. psythe writes:

really? i find the more i hear, the more i want to hear the rest of the album.

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199. Deathhasnoeffect writes:

I like some tool songs but there are so many bands out there that make tool look dull and boring. The new song is alright at best. I would rather listen to real metal bands such as Nile, Decapitated, Opeth(light years better than tool), Despised Icon, Cephalic Carnage etc....but hey to each his own and hopefully this album will really get some more of that Meshuggah feel than the first single

# Apr 17, 2006 @ 1:35 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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200. Ryan writes:

Same here... I can't stop listening to it. Oh, and to the guy who thinks it's fake: Explain to me why in the song Maynard says "Vicariously"? This isn't fake... If you don't believe me go to one of the many links posted here and download it for yourself. The only way this couldn't be the song is if Tool recorded two versions, one to leak and then the real one. But why the f*** would they do that?

# Apr 17, 2006 @ 1:37 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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201. Ryan writes:

Opeth rules but I don't know why you say real metal when none of us are saying Tool are real metal to begin with. I consider Tool to be more progressive than metal, to be honest.

# Apr 17, 2006 @ 1:38 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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202. Tool Junkie writes:

Dudes where the hell do i download Vicarious from????

# Apr 17, 2006 @ 2:56 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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203. psythe writes:

hahah, i've stopped bothering to try and classify tool. not only is it almost impossible, it's against most everything they believe in anyway.

i'd like to know what people think about the last paragraph of post 202?

# Apr 17, 2006 @ 3:01 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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204. Main writes:

Since I consider "Nü-metal" to mean "very hard rock with metal elements",
I'd call Tool "Progressive Nü-metal". They're a great band, but they're not beyond classification.

# Apr 17, 2006 @ 7:31 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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205. V writes:

Anyone know if a video is going to be released today as well?

# Apr 17, 2006 @ 10:33 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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206. MMmmmm... writes:

i own a t.v.
'cause tragedy thrills me
whatever flavor it happens to be

wife killed by the husband
drowned by the ocean
shot by his own son,
she used her poison
In his gene
and kissed him goodbye
that's my kind of story
it's never fun till someone dies

don't look at me like i am a monster
found out your one face
but with the other,
stare like a junkie
into the t.v.
stare like a zombie
while the mother
holds her child
watches it die
face to the sky
crying out, "why oh why"

'cause i need to watch things die
from a distance
vicariously I live
while the whole world dies
you all were leaded to join the lie

why cant we just admit it?
why cant we just admit it?

we won't give pause until
the blood is flowing
in the grave
no bold writers to stories told
we won't give pause until
the blood is flowing


and i need to watch things die
from a good, safe distance
vicariously I live while
the whole world dies

you all feel the same so
why can't we just admit it

blood like rain, come down
drown my grave and now

I feel fine ???? carnivore and voyeur still have the sense

___ ???? <;==== that part is hard :/

sing to the death rattle
lalalalalalalala lie
lalalalalalalala lie
lalalalalalalala lie
lalalalalalalala lie

*talking*

gradually they master
your desire to believe in
angels in the hearts of men
pull your head on out your hand
the angels never listen
shouldn't have to say it all again
the universe is hostile
so am i so now
devour to survive's how it is
it's how it's always been

we all feed on tragedy
it's like blood to a vampire

vicariously
I live while
the whole world dies
much better you than I

# Apr 17, 2006 @ 12:12 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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207. Khaleb writes:

You know what is really going to suck, when may 2nd, comes around and then they reveal that it was an april fools joke and that the new album will be released sometime next year.....it would not surprise me if the release date does indeed get pushed back.

# Apr 17, 2006 @ 2:00 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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208. the poet of masterpieces writes:

oh dear...........that overwhelming(because it's long and sh**ty) is from you......oh gosh oh dear the worst of lyrisicm for a want to be a masterpiece rookie your song is full sh** just like tool

let me show a real masterpiece, for all you ignorants of the lower class to see and educate yourselves

the time has come
to rise again
freedom lift thy sewered men
free from beasts and skewered men

my dreams unroll
ten thousand fold
their world will never take me
they will never desecrate my soul

the stars i have grasped
are so far lonely constellations
and wishing on those stars
my spirit bars annihilation

from earthen miseries
hosts of most fell forms of greed
ghosts of pearly gate remissions

forever haunting me
slit the witch and watch him bleed
as with any inquisition

lying from the start
the preachers piled their craft
scoffing elder glories
and dying, i depart
to make their sunken hearts
a coffin for their stories

the time is past
to falter when
freedom slips my sombre pen
and gates to wolves break open then

my feelings may
seem constant prey
but claws no more will rake me
those whores have fled to darker days

above and beyond
i have wronged in my position
but now the winds are strong
to soar from babel vision

of cutthroat jealousies
dock to dock these mongrels breed
dogs of fogged derision

pacing,soon to be
back to pack mentality
when my flying killing moon is risen

trying from the start
these creatures of the dark
were quaffing mourning glories
and dying, i depart
to make their drunken hearts
a coffin for their stories

innovation in ovation
imagination stirs

somewhere the dusk is lining
red the shore of a roaring sea
and though loved there someone is pinning
for waves of blood to run and rescue me...

# Apr 17, 2006 @ 3:26 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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209. Incredible Holt writes:

Well, the first single dropped and it IS titled Vicarious...any other theories? How about this...Tool is releasing a CD May 2nd and the track list is provided above. I know that's way out there; but, "I'm just prying open my third eye here."

# Apr 17, 2006 @ 4:41 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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210. Incredible Holt writes:

I have bided my time since Latalerus by purchasing Meshuggah, Opeth...all the bands spoken of above. While those bands serve a purpose, they thrive on repetitious tracks...playing the same riff over and over. Opeth is a breath of fresh air but can't compete with Danny Carrey (Tool drummer) or Maynard's vocals. You can't deny talent. As a society, we need to get away from labels. It doesn't work for religion, politics, race, etc. so why taint something as beautiful as music by labeling it progressive / nu- / alternative / heavy / blah, blah, blah. I don't limit myself by genre. That may be why TOOL works. People are still having trouble "labeling" it to this day and that is what it is all about! Think for yourself, question authority!

# Apr 17, 2006 @ 5:05 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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211. Linkin Park Killa writes:

Heard the new song vicarious and it rules man! And how the f*** could somebody label Tool as nu-metal? Music as imaginative as this! Tool is everything but alternacrap and nu-metal. f*** whoever says otherwise!

# Apr 17, 2006 @ 5:19 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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212. hooray for dookie writes:

i agree with what Linkin Park Killa says. they are in a group of their own and will always be by themselfves. this is what makes them so damnnnn good.

# Apr 17, 2006 @ 6:28 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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213. rippedlife writes:

Did someone hear the Vicarious single from the radio today?!?!

# Apr 17, 2006 @ 6:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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214. mozdy writes:

holy sh**, more than half of you people on here are bumbling retards. i mean whats up with "it so totally isnt like tool" or " i hope they sound better than the last one" youve created your own ideals of the band and what they SHOULD sound like, for christs sake if you were such a great fan of tool you would accept and enjoy it for what it is. i hope that the new album is exactly what tool wants it to sound like and that youll take it for what it is"

# Apr 17, 2006 @ 6:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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215. Brandon writes:

Wow...these posts are funny. The new single is AMAZING. I got chills...

# Apr 17, 2006 @ 7:02 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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216. rippedlife writes:

hey BRANDON.. did you hear it on the radio? or you downloaded it?

# Apr 17, 2006 @ 7:08 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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217. Brandon writes:

Radio...it was around 5:00pm just on a local station. They played all 7 + minutes :)

# Apr 17, 2006 @ 7:17 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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218. rippedlife writes:

thanx! it was the same song that we all have right?

# Apr 17, 2006 @ 7:36 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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219. Brandon writes:

uhmmm...haha I don't know what song you guys have. The song I heard was definitely Tool and he said Vicarious here and there, so it was legit.

# Apr 17, 2006 @ 9:10 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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220. Brandon writes:

uhmmm...haha I don't know what song you guys have. The song I heard was definitely Tool and he said Vicarious here and there, so it was legit.

# Apr 17, 2006 @ 9:10 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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221. MeLly writes:

Oooo i know what some of you guys are talking about.....there was a promo of vicarious running around, and it does not say vicarious, in fact the voice is just heard as a background, it is good, but the actual song is better!!! it f***en kicks ass!!! that is ALL!!

# Apr 17, 2006 @ 9:45 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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222. Brandon writes:

You weren't talking to me were u MeLly?

# Apr 17, 2006 @ 10:55 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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223. RememberMetal? writes:

I must admit the lyrics are pretty damn impressive....I like Vicarious for that....The song makes an excellent point...I've lived without cable (cable is 27 years old OR 10,000 days old...)since 2003 and I couldn't be happier (yes I have an internet connection and a playstation 2) but I spend more of my life doing things, rather than watching others do things or watch things happen that I can't directly effect.

Post 210...
Main,
Nu-metal is Korn, Disturbed, Limp Bizkit, Papa Roach, Staind, LinkinPark, Crazytown...etc. It's down tuned bass (bass is also much higher in the mix) and guitar, simple riffs, no or few guitar solos rap style drum beats in some cases, angsty lyrics rather than angry or conflicted lyrics....

Tool is an alternative band with emphasis on progressive rock elements and metal nuances. There are a million other things in there but those are the primary classifications...

# Apr 17, 2006 @ 11:44 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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224. Main writes:

Why can't nü-metal be imaginative? I am looking, for the most part, at the structure of the music, not the content.

Labelling, like anything, is a tool. It may seem unnecessary and mean at times,
but other times it helps us make sense of the vast amounts of information in the world.

I think it's safe to put Tool under the very large genre of hard rock. Do we stop there? Perhaps.
I know a lot of traditional metal listeners--and people who say they don't like popular music--
view nü-metal like the plague, so if any of them enjoy Tool, they probably won't link them with it.

But I can also say that every riff Tool plays is essentially a simple and loose hard rock riff with
nü-metal style buzz-saw guitar. That's what allows the rest of the band to stretch out instrumentally.

# Apr 17, 2006 @ 11:56 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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225. Main writes:

RememberMetal?, maybe you're right; I just hope we can agree that it's not a crime to label these guys.
Sheesh.

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226. bradispissed writes:

i'm getting my tickets to the smu show on saturday


and the rest of you can suck the salt of my soldiers

# Apr 18, 2006 @ 12:19 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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227. Mitch writes:

HEy theres a rumor i heard that maynard left APC...im wondering if thats true and if it is i heard also they will have a female lead now...sorry to portrude the tool forum but he mentioned it on a 10,00 days interveiw

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228. Mitch writes:

HEy theres a rumor i heard that maynard left APC...im wondering if thats true and if it is i heard also they will have a female lead now...sorry to portrude the tool forum but he mentioned it on a 10,00 days interveiw http://www.fourtheye.net/?p=256

# Apr 18, 2006 @ 1:14 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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229. RememberMetal? writes:

Main I'm not attacking you at all. Just disagreeing.

You're just as entitled to your view/discription as I am. Just the other day I classified ShadowsFall and Poison the Well as Metal-core (which I think is reasonably fair...maybe Thrash-core) and I had about 8 people attack that notion.
I may be wrong I may be right...Maybe there is no right...Point is, when we classify the sound of a band it's to give someone a rough idea of what to expect without having heard the music....

Like saying Terror sounds alot like Hatebreed. Same basic principal....

As far as Nu-metal being imaginative: I admit, I've found most nu-metal to be as loathsome as hair-metal....However, Mudvayne, Soad, Cold and even a few songs from Slipknot have turned my head.

It's always the popular genre that lives past it's expiration date that gets a negative label.

No offense intended.

# Apr 18, 2006 @ 1:29 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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230. Main writes:

I was responding to the other two guys. Your post was very reasonable; I took no offense from it.

Well, I heard Vicarious 8 times on the radio today; we have 3 stations here in Phoenix that include Tool on their playlist, but one of them is a talk station by day, so I may not have even heard it all yet.

# Apr 18, 2006 @ 3:18 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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231. rj writes:

not to anger anyone... but adam jones doesn't even classify tool as a metal band... he stated in many many interviews that the band is a hard rock band... I just wander why label anything... It's all music right? some are different and suit more people than others but it serves its purpose in that case, doesn't it? TOOL also comes out with a new sound almost every album anyways... Undertow sounded different than Opiate, and Lateralus sounded different than Aenima... When you have a band that tries to last that long it's hard to get anywhere doing the same thing over and over... just my opinion...

# Apr 18, 2006 @ 3:43 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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232. Main writes:

Hey, I called it hard rock, too! Cool.

When the guitarist of the band classifies his own sound, you know there's something to it.

# Apr 18, 2006 @ 4:24 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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233. JJ3 writes:

This song will not be on the new album. I gaurentee it.

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234. Mike Mitchell writes:

This album will definetly out-do the other Tool albums, they just get better and better.....i dont care what the songs are titled, i dont care about the album title.as long as the music is good then i will be happy. If there is some signifigance to all the titles and "10 000 days" then thast great too....but all of us as Tool fans should be able to realize now what a great and original band Tool is and that no matter what they release it wont be like thst simple sh** we hear on the radio......tool is like an extra terrestrial force.to this day we still dont completely know the meanings of everything that is to be known of the band. The cover of 10 000 days is great..i just saw it in a record store the other day.....I'm pretty sure that "10 000 days" is the real title.....TOOL is my inspiration that i can do just what they are doing, i can create my own art, lyrics, and music(which i do).Tool is the best band that i have ever heard.

hey...and to da person abnove me.how the f*** can is it that i heard "vicarious" on the radio and its not going to be on the album.well i guaerentee it will be on the new album! That song was f***ing amazing....i think their coming here to chicago on may 13th..tickets will be $66.66...HaHaHa!!! not making that up...appearently, theres a number of tracks surfacing online(even on myspace) that claim to be "vicarious" but are not...but they might be tracks on the new album...cause they sound alot like Tool.

# Apr 18, 2006 @ 8:48 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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235. JJ3 writes:

Read post 200 by HKnight... I agree entirely with him. I think that if the whole theory is real, which I'm seriously hoping it is, it'll be one of the most hilarious tricks ever played. Tool is always coming up with sh** like this, such as last years email to Kurt Loader of MTV where Maynard "converted" to Christianity. I know a lot of you guys like this song, but I thought it was so bad I was laughing at times. "la la la la lie" Tool is a bit more hardcore than singing la la la's, I mean come on... its funny, and Maynard has always had a great sense of humor. Yeah the intro is especially solid, and parts of the song are strong, but it would have to be to make people believe it. Part of what makes Tool so great is how mysterious they've been of the years, and that's what opens up the door to the possibility that they'd potentially come up with a hoax at this level. I just think it'd be so bad a$$ if on May 2nd the album cover looked completely different, had a different name, and "Vicarious" wasn't on there. Not that I really care what anything is named, its just how cool it would be if Tool tricked everyone. Millions of people fooled to unvail a brand new, never before heard or seen masterpiece by Tool. Bottom line is this though, only May 2nd will hold the answer, and either way I'll be buying the album because there is nobody in music anywhere near the level Tool is on. I'm sure I'll come to appreciate it even if they all sound like the Vicarious song on the radio. My gaurentee in the previous post wasn't for real, I just wrote it to try and will the theory to truth. Oh, and I'm getting tickets too, May 16th in Toronto. F*ck Right.

# Apr 18, 2006 @ 9:37 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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236. Storm writes:

Tool is more inline with Led Zeppelin than any metal band. I would think most of Tool would agree with this. Most metal bands blend the same power chords into different time sigs and repeat... my goodness I heard meshuggah for the first time and was just stunned at how similar the first 3 songs on the new album is. I have been a metalhead since 85 with Kill em all and Spreading the Disease (old timers know who the bands are) and I really find that the creativity has plummeted in metal. All the lame hip-hop/metal and nu-metal will come and go (korny, limp twinkie, yankin park, etc.) but true innovators do not fade away... they keep re-creating themselves, such as Tool who has changed their sound on all 4 of their albums since 1992. Those who complain about the sound being different are just too small minded to accept musical innovation. 1-2 repeat is all they know and are secure with... any type of time shift or organic structure causes them to lose the ability to pump their fist or bang their head. Tool is more of a psychedelic mind-altering substance... pure energy... shifting and changing... like experimental bands of the 60's.

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237. vicaaaaarious writes:

lots of hype here guys, lots of effort, i'm on the fence. i'd love to be able to just sit back and appreciate the music, but the band has always tickled my brain with their tricks. i agree that half the fun of being a tool fan is trying to figure this sh** out. anyways can somebody send me a link to d/l it. whether it be genuine or not.

# Apr 18, 2006 @ 3:04 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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238. Incredible Holt writes:

What's more plausible?...Tool orchestrated this entire "fake Vicarious track and CD cover / title charade" by taking the time to write and produce an awesomely "fake" song and album cover...OR...They did not want their fans to know they were MARKETING their new CD and pretended to leak it to the radio stations to create a buzz before it's release in 2 weeks. I lean towards the latter. This is just a marketing ploy and it looks like it is working by reading these comments. May 2nd can't come fast enough for me. The sad part is that once May 2nd roles around...we'll have to wait at least 5 years or more again for new TOOL so i might just leave my new CD in the wrapper for an extra day to prepare. J/K

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239. Kensai writes:

People keep saying they think the song titles are fake. I seriously doubt it myself. A few of them especially, like the title track "10,000 Days". The song "Wings for Marie" and "10,000 Days" obviously go together and for a good reason. Maynard's mother, who died in 2003, was named Judith Marie Garrison. She had a stroke and was paralyzed for 27 years before she died, which is approximately 10,000 days. That doesn't sound like a joke to me.

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240. MMMMmmmm.... writes:

I posted the lyrics earlier, but you all completely ignored it and skipped past it..


the parts surrounded by '**''s is HARD to understand

i own a t.v.
'cause tragedy thrills me
whatever flavor it happens to be

wife killed by the husband
drowned by the ocean
shot by his own son,
she used her poison
In his gene
and kissed him goodbye
that's my kind of story
it's never fun till someone dies

don't look at me like i am a monster
found out your one face
but with the other,
stare like a junkie
into the t.v.
stare like a zombie
while the mother
holds her child
watches it die
face to the sky
crying out, "why oh why"

'cause i need to watch things die
from a distance
vicariously I live
while the whole world dies
you all need it too, don't lie

why cant we just admit it?
why cant we just admit it?

we won't give pause until
the blood is flowing
no brave nor bold writers to stories told
we won't give pause until
the blood is flowing


and i need to watch things die
from a good, safe distance
vicariously I live while
the whole world dies

you all feel the same so
why can't we just admit it

blood like rain, come down
drown my grave and now

**
???? carnivore and voyeur
still have the sense in it self
**

sing to the death rattle
lalalalalalalala lie
lalalalalalalala lie
lalalalalalalala lie
lalalalalalalala lie

*talking*

gradually they master
your desire to believe in
angels in the hearts of men
pull your head on out your hand
the angels never listen
shouldn't have to say it all again
the universe is hostile
so am i so now
devour to survive's how it is
it's how it's always been

we all feed on tragedy
it's like blood to a vampire

vicariously
I live while
the whole world dies
much better you than I

# Apr 18, 2006 @ 7:39 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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241. vicaaaarious writes:

sweet lyric job dude. did you guys see the north american tour dates....i'm pretty sure i creamed my pants.

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242. vicaaaarious writes:

"sing to the death rattle" is the last of the ***

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243. vicaaarious writes:

oh..i see you got that..well then...nevermind

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244. ryn writes:

has anyone heard the leak album yet?? i got a few songs from limewire and they were NOT tool whatsoever. this could be tool faking the album or it could just be someone putting fake songs up for people to download........reply if youve heard it

# Apr 18, 2006 @ 9:48 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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245. JT writes:

The lyrics from t.d.n. on one of the missing parts you have are:

"Part vampire, part warrior
carnivore and voyeur"

Which actually brings me to my discussion point. The use of the "vampire" image is becoming more frequent. MJK used it on the APC record (13th Step)...it's in "The Patient" and now is twice mentioned in this song. Can anyone think of any other TOOL tracks that include the use of vampires? And secondly...why has this become a popular image for them to put forth...it's slightly simplistic...is there something that I am missing? Any opinions on that out there?

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246. bradispissed writes:

who, why, what


the f*** cares


enjoy the music and piss on the rest. f***ing tool

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247. JT writes:

Oh...thanks for the insight...that answers everything. Maybe you are onto something here...you are being extremely negative...and maybe that's the key...maybe it's negativity sucking the life out of humanity like a vampire. Thank you for the cryptic message. I only wish I could be as insightful as you. f***in' Brilliant!!!

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248. Jeffrey :) writes:

Currently listening to Jambi.
<;3

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249. Lobotomy For The Masses writes:

Kay, time for me to add my pseudo-Tool connoisseur two cents.

First, yes I believe the album title, artwork and tracks are just what they are...the real thing. Live with it!
Many are already searching for the meaning behind it all and can't find any (yet) and therefor just label the whole shebang as fake.

What did you expect then after hearing the first single on the first day of the release?
That the whole meaning or the finer details of the songs and the album as a whole would suddenly be as crystal clear as the water from a glacier spring?

You're talking about a band that has integrated the golden mean and the fibonacci sequence in their last album....

Give them some credit, will ya.

It's not like we're talking about Britney Spears' latest tripe here.

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250. :) Me again. writes:

"Angels on the sideline again, wondering when this tug of war will end."

I'm not sure what to think, not at all.
Meaning it's not bad, and it will probably grow on me.
But I'm not done and I love you all.

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251. Domo writes:

ummm... just a few minor corrections...

1. "so am I so now"????? wtf???? it's "so impersonal" ... Quite clear even... =2. "in his TEA", not "in his GENE" (yup... that's what usually people poison, eh?... =\ )

that's all for now, just those 2 obvious ones... :)

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252. Domo writes:

actually, come to think of it... I don't even know why I came here for lyrics, when the obvious place is toolshed.down.net, at least they have ones I can agree with... :D

# Apr 19, 2006 @ 3:41 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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253. Kensai writes:

No, we're not going to understand all of the reasoning behind the entire cd from just song titles and one song, but there are a few we can understand. The "Wings for Marie" and "10,000 Days" songs for example, which I assume are about his mother. And "Lost Keys (Blame Hoffman)" I assume is about acid after the post I red in their news on April 7th about the birthday party and Dr. Albert Hoffman was mentioned, who is the "father" of LSD.

# Apr 19, 2006 @ 3:51 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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254. toolboy writes:

on the whole vampires thing, it is also used in a perfect circle's 'weak and powerless' track ("someone feed the monkey/ while i dig in search of china/ white as dracula as i approach the bottom") though i dont think it means much. Tool is awesome, yes they are big on april fools, but i also think you're reading too much into it... you make all these bulls**t conspiracy theories, which sound good, but have nothing behind them...

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255. Cynic writes:

It's simple, the band are all vampires. Makes perfect sense.

(242/260) by Storm "Most metal bands blend the same power chords into different time sigs and repeat"

Lol, if you've ever learnt a few Tool songs on guitar you would know Adam Jones uses pretty much nothing but dropped powerchords and much like Daron Malakian from SOAD sticks to the same key and scale. Despite this its pretty hard to tell, they seem to relentlessly invent new variations of them.

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256. Incredible Holt writes:

I haven't read all comments so I hope i am not duplicating info...For what it is worth, I looked up the meaning of Lipan (Lipan conjuring) and it is known that the Cuelgahen Nde LIPAN Apache of Texas comprise the descendents of the Tall Grass People known as LIPAN Apache. JAMBI is a province of Indonesia located on the east coast of central Sumatra. Do not yet know the significance.

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257. bradispissed writes:

well jt i'm pretty happy that i was able to help you out on your quest to uncover tools hidden hard on for vampires...


because i'm sure like reading or community service or maybe feeding ducks or sodomy or acknowledging you as a person or even being a mental vampire or perhaps putting cigars out on my p***s wouldn't be time better spent.


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258. DamnItAllToHell writes:

wow dude, putting cigars out on your p***s...............again i say...wow. sounds painful

# Apr 19, 2006 @ 12:47 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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259. JT writes:

Again...I am in awe of the poetic manner in which you make your point. All of those things are indeed a true waste of time...and to claim otherwise would be in contravention of my selfish quest for simple discussion. I will make sure, a per your advice, to put aside other ridiculous pursuits...and focus in on what it truly important...TOOL. Thanks again.

Also, my comment about the use of vampires was not a comment relating to the genuineness of the track...or tied to any conspiracy theory. I was actuslly just looking for someone that is better versed in the vampire lore than I am. I know some of the basics...but any other info would be appreciated. That's all.

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260. The Pale Ale writes:

Rosetta Stoned is by far my favorite alternative type track since.....anything off aenima. holy shyte it gives me goosebumps and makes me sweat. Awesome f****** track

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261. soulongod writes:

For those who have hear vicarious, I was wondering if anyone else dislikes the lyric "from a good, safe distance". I don't know if its me or does Maynard's lyrics (TOOL/APC) come off a little corny, trite, or banal? Oh, and don't give me that who gives a f*** sh**, that most brain dead f***ers respone with. Don't get me wrong I enjoy both band, especial the instrumentals, but the more I listen (at first listens, awesome) to all the previous CDs (TOOL/APC) the more annoyed I get from the corny lyrics, especial the interludes on AENIMA. I guess nobody is perfect. f*** IT...

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262. Incredible Holt writes:

I suppose Maynard could have used better adjetives than "good" and "safe" but I think it gets the point across about the sleepy sheepish society we live in. It seems like every TOOL album reads as a soundtrack to the John Carpenter flick "THEY LIVE" in which billboards contain subliminal messages such as: "This is your God (dollar bill)" , "obey" , "sleep" , "marry and reproduce". If you haven't seen it, check it out...Roddy Piper at his best. Good one liner's. Given the caliber of people in here, I'm sure I'm just preaching to the choir.

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263. FGK writes:

I just got a hold of Wings for Marie, both part 1 and 2... the songs are absolutely amazing musically. Beautiful pieces, probably some of the best by the band. They definately confirm that 10,000 Days is really the title of the album, the song lists are correct, ect ect. Maynard mentions his mother Judith Marie in part 2, he also says a line about 10,000 days. I do have to admit I'm a little dissappointed again with these songs as I was with the radio release of Vicarious because of Maynards voice. He has the most chilling, haunting, and beautiful voice I've ever heard in albums like Mer De Noms or Lateralus, but ever since Emotive he's using some horrible effect that makes his voice sound fake and electronic. If you can't get ahold of Wings for Marie and you want to know what I'm referring to, just listen to a song like "Let's Have a War" or "What's Going On" on Emotive. Its exactly like that. Never-the-less, I'm sure this album will be amazing.

# Apr 20, 2006 @ 7:42 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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264. JT writes:

The interview with Adam Jones in Guitar World made mention of the fact that MJK's voice would be different on this record. He said that they mixed it back a little so that it would function more as one of the instruments rather than overpower the music...while I am not in total agreement with that call...because of the sheer beauty and power of his voice...I'll have to give it a full listen before I really get into any opinions. He also made mention of the several effects that MJK used over his vocals...while the interview didn't say for certain...it seemed as though Adam was conveying that the effects were done throughout the record...and not just on a few tracks. This is the first album that the band has "officially" produced themselves...so we will hear some different things.

Also, Adam mentioned that he used a talkbox on the record...have any of the tracks anyone has heard had that on them? Just wondering if he was f***in' around or not.

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265. Cynic writes:

I love when vocals are put back in the mix. Xasthur, Mogwai, Cynic - I just really like when bands explore with something a bit different to the usual.

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266. Roland138 writes:

This is necessary. This is necessary. Life, feeds on life, feeds on life, feeds on life, feeds on, This is necessary. This is necessary . . .

Joseph Campbell, in his book "The Inner Reaches of Outer Space: Metaphor as Myth and as Religion" states that there are three primal bioenergic urges that are the basis for what have been called "elementary ideas," or more famously "archetypal" ideas by Carl Jung. The three main ones are the urge to possess/plunder, the urge to procreate, and the urge/need to feed on the life on other living organisms. Campbell argues that these three urges, then, are the basis for the metaphors that appear in all primary religions throughout human history, called monads. In response to the posts questioning all this "vampirism," keep this in mind and try to look at the bigger ideas surrounding the vampire archetype. Ones mind may first focus solely on carnivores as consumers of life, but even vegetarians have to feed on life to survive; this view is still limited in its scope, as it only refers to the act of eating. There are other ways to feed off of something. Perhaps the vampirism imagery expresses the idea that this very fundamental, and inherintly natural, act has become all take, no give in recent humanity? That the lack of reciprocity has twisted it into something monstrous? Or maybe not. Just thoughts. I do highly recommend Joseph Campbell's works, as he was a student of Carl Jung's philosophies and this type of archetypal interpretation holds up well in regards to the art of TOOL, as well as being a viable and respected form of literary criticism.

. . . Life, feeds on life, feeds on life, feeds on life, feeds on . . .

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267. JT writes:

Now that's the kind of reply I was expecting. I will go check out Campbell's work. Thank you for the insight. I can see how that can tie in quite nicely with the use of the "vampire" image.

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268. shutkski writes:

Just stop discussing about the meaning of something you don't know how it will come out...can't you see all this suspense is just marketing maneuvres?...this is what makes people like them...all this anxiety, all these nerves...you should wait paciently until the album release, then you should buy the album and discuss it...if you keep on doing this, many of you will be disappointed...until then, I should be enjoying some RATM, Muse, APC and the old TOOL recordings....

P.S.: Sorry for my poor english...

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269. Roland138 writes:

Um. What?

# Apr 20, 2006 @ 1:17 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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270. dontaskmeformusic writes:

i heard that the album leaked already...

# Apr 20, 2006 @ 1:29 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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271. Storm writes:

I should clarify... I do realize that most bands (including tool) are using power chords of some fashion... and personally I love the sound... the thing that annoys me is repetitive chord structure. Tool have a groove to their power chords that makes you want to move with the energy (sepultura "roots bloody roots" is another example of groove power chords). There is a sequence in the groove that grabs you. meshuggah (sp?) on the other hand has a very good power chord sound but has a lack of creativity and after the 3 songs I heard was just the same power chords repeated. The chords need to move tribally like the dums for the song to take on a organic groove.

# Apr 20, 2006 @ 1:32 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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272. JT writes:

Just to clarify for POST 274.

My comments aren't made because of nervousness or anxiousness nor do they cause those emotions. The suspense and mystery are marketing tools...you are right about that...and for me it's just an interesting, fun discussion...and one in which I can learn from others in regard to ideas/philosophies/theories that may possibly be the roots for some of what TOOL writes about.

Even if we don't know what the new record contains...which some people do know some of what is out there...we do know where the band has come from in their past efforts. So all of that combined is why I engage in this kind of discussion.

I understand very little about tons of things...and even if what someone tells me in their interpretation of TOOL isn't in line with what I think, I still gain some insight...which is okay too.

I also want to say that I am not saying any of this in an effort to challenge what you said...your opinion is yours...and I am not trying to belittle you by saying that I gain something from this and you don't...I am just letting you know my opinion as to why I like doing this. Hope to talk to you soon.

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273. Roland138 writes:

Any of you TOOL-ophiles going to Coachella?

# Apr 20, 2006 @ 1:57 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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274. Kensai writes:

The lyrics written are here are way off... If you want lyrics that are much closer to the real thing go here. http://toolshed.down.net/lyrics/10kdayslyrics.html#01 They're not quite sure about all of it, but they're much more accurate.

# Apr 20, 2006 @ 2:10 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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275. shutkski writes:

about time i managed to hear "vicarious"...but i must confess...i'm a bit disappointed...it just doesn't sound like what i was expecting...i think apc had a bad influence in MJK...it seems like this song can't reach places where "The Grudge", "H" or "Parabola" easily got...it's not as deep...maybe more commercial than other...i don't know...i just....well, maybe i'm a lot wrong and going in a complete wrong way, but that's what i think...

to JT(278): hey no prob, everyone must have an opinion otherwise there would be no evolution in discussion...that's somehow what i tried to achieve by provoking with my comment ;)...among other things...I've learnt a lot by reading stuff, motivated by TOOL music, lyrics and even videos.... we sure know where they come from...and all of us, fans, want to understand and decode the meaning of it all...but...we don't even know if this is the original album to be released...anyway, i agree with someone that said it was in some way related to MJK's mother...i only hope there's no more "la la la la la" in the other songs...i dunno but it kinda makes angry...

# Apr 20, 2006 @ 8:08 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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276. FGK writes:

Yeah, your post is kind of what I was getting at in post 269. It seems like APC has hurt Maynard. Vicarious sounds like an Emotive track that will never be on par with something like The Grudge. Just my opinion, so relax to all the people who love the new song. Post 270, I think what you brought up about Adam commenting on Maynard's voice in the album explains a lot. It always seemed like Tool as a band resented how much of a following Maynard was getting when even Maynard himself always stressed that it should be about the music, not the man or the face... or in this case the voice... From the three songs I've heard (Vicarious, WIngs For Marie Pt 1, and whatever Pt2 is called), they have definately made an attempt to negate his powerful vocals. The music is almost hypnotic, ambient, and formless on the Marie songs. Maynard is just a sound contributing like an instrument, exactly what Jones supposedly said according to post 270. Some people will like this and view it as an evolution, I'm sick to my stomach. It's still great music, but Maynard's voice is the reason I initially became a fan many years ago. You won't be hearing any of the insane, annihilating screams he performed in songs like Eulogy or the Grudge, which to me is a huge, huge tragedy. I understand and can learn to appreciate the concept the band is trying to create by making him just another instrument, but I sure will miss the Maynard of old.

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277. May writes:

10,000 DAYS.........Absolutely awesome, melodic, hypnotic, best tool yet........Pay a visit to Alex Greys Chapel of the Mirrors in NY city, and it gives this album and laturalus a whole new perspective. Good music is more than just a bunch of guys/gals and there instruments making noise. Thought provoking tracks like that of Tools' is the way all music should be. Regardless what the songs really are about, it makes you open your mind and see more into your own life, things going on around you and the things that you have experienced, good or bad, it pushes out the stale everyday mind numbing thoughts we all have. Close your eyes, open your mind, look at yourself from the inside, it may make you a better person on the outside.
Remember to support your bands by BUYING there album!!!!!

# Apr 20, 2006 @ 10:01 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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278. MaelstromEmorte writes:

hey guys... just to add some info, i work for a music/clothing store and we got t-shirts in today for the new album... they have the new album art/logo (some of you had mentioned the similarities with the new logo looking like it possibly says "fool") and on the back it says "10,000 days" below the album art... i dont know if this officially means this info is 100% true or not, but it seems like quite an elaborate hoax if not, to distribute false t-shirts to hundreds of clothing stores across the country... also, when they announced the official release date of may 2nd, our stores got emails saying we'll be carrying tools new cd, named as "10,000 days" so its looking pretty solid that all released information is correct... i'll re-post if/when i learn anything new

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279. May writes:

Not a hoax...10,000 days and the art work was done by Alex Grey

# Apr 20, 2006 @ 10:28 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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280. AwesomeFest writes:

On the track 10,000 Days (Wings Pt 2), if you start at the 5:30 mark, you can hear a build up in the instruments and his vocals and at 5:42 i was expecting to hear an amazing top-of-the-lungs scream and then it just kinda died down...definately not what i was expecting...im not saying i dislike the album, cause i think its pretty good, but i do miss some of the intensity from their older work

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281. FGK writes:

Yeah I totally agree... has to be something to do with what I was just posting on about the whole toning Maynard down thing

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282. Cynic writes:

This album better not be a St Anger, where jerkoffs get me excited by telling me its a return to form only for me to waste my cash.

Roland138 - Maybe the vampire thing is about how they think you suck?

Storm - Roots is sh**, get Arise.

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283. JCL writes:

So i cant wait for the cd to come out.... but i have to disagree with some of the posts on here about APC hurting Maynard..... First of all isn't the creative force behind tool ADAM???? and I do recall that while Maynard was touring with APC that Danny, Justin, and Adam were already rehearsing, and writing for what would be the new cd..... Not saying that Maynard didn;t have any input but im just throwing that in there. But somebody as smart as Maynard knows not to mix the sound or features of the two bands....Tool are just doing something different..... and the big thing is to just wait till the cd comes out cause you never know what could happen.......
but hope every1 has a good day and hopefully we can all have the keys to the kingdom soon together now im goign to go smoke and play shadow of the colusses

# Apr 21, 2006 @ 3:28 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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284. Chelsey writes:

First off..you guys read waaay too much into everything! Jesus Christ it's just a band, they're just human beings! Remember, Overthinking.. overanalyzing separates the body from the mind.

Second-those of you who've already downloaded (or attempted to download) the C-d.. YOU are the blood sucking vampires, parading yourselves as fans.

Third- I think it's f**king retarded when people say that the new song/s sound "un-tool".. or "not tool enough"... Part of being a good musician is to have the ability and willingness to change, trying different things, and taking risks. It's also should be expected of Tool to sound different with each album... hello.. does Undertow sound alot like Lateralus?? NO. So if you want to listen to a band that hasn't progressed and just recycles the same crappy songs and won't dare take a risk... go buy a F**king Offspring C-d!!!

# Apr 21, 2006 @ 3:39 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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285. FGK writes:

You're right about the progression of Tool in the past being a good thing. I love the contrast between Opiate's brutal aingst and Lateralus' complicated melodic pieces. I'm just dissappointed that in the three songs I've heard on 10,000 days, a significant part of Tool is absent. Maynard's voice is electronic. And yeah, I pirated the music, but guess what??? I'll still buy the album like I have every other one including Salival, and they'll get their money.... so get off your high horse. I can understand what you mean though about saying stuff is "un-Tool" because them being so unpredictable is a large part of what makes them the best. But like I said... this is MAYNARD'S VOICE!!!! The greatest voice in the history of music... yeah, I'm over the edge, but if you have been a Tool fan over the years you simply cannot tell me that you won't miss hearing a "GOOD BYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" on Eulogy or something similar, no matter how "revolutionary" this new album may be by utiliizing electronic effects to bring his voice down with the instruments. Their new idea is to make it more about the music than him, which I can understand, I just don't like it. On May 2nd (or sooner if you get it online), listen to 10,000 days around 5 minutes and 20 seconds in. The song is about to build up and explode, and for the only time in the song you can hear Maynard without a strong effect over his voice... it peaks with the line "Give me my wings". It totally gets insane up to this point and then bang... the word "wings" is reduced to an electronic tone. Had this album occurred five years ago, Maynard would have shattered every bone in my body with the most haunting and chilling scream the word "wings" has ever experienced. Say I'm an ungrateful fan... whatever. To each his own.

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286. psythe writes:

There is a hidden message about a minute and a half into "Intension." The vocals sound reversed, and when played, the phrases "work hard," "stay in school," "listen to your mother," "your father is right" can be heard. The track "Lost Keys" also contains an example of backmasking, when reversed you can hear the phrase "Thank you very much, a$$hole." The phrase is heard at the very beggining of the reversed song.

analyze that.

is seperating the body from the mind a bad thing, necessarily? wouldnt that simply mean that the mind has become elevated enough to focus it's consciousness on things not physical - ie religious theology, spirituality, existence, the afterlife, and most importantly...all the why?'s of the world and beyond...just a thought...

Cynic - Arise. i'll give you that. Chaos AD?

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287. Cynic writes:

Chaos AD is Seps last good album, Biotech Is Godzilla kills. Backmaskings cool, if you know Spastic Ink you might know how funny it can be.

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288. psythe writes:

hahahahah, yeah man, hilarious shlt. of course, you always end up with the stupid super-religious people claiming that Led Zeppelin have some crap about the coolness of Devil-worship in their songs and all that rubbish.

speaking of Sep, they'v got a new album coming - Dante XX or something, has anyone else heard it, and what do you guys think? personally, it's nothing special for me. it's alright, and all, but...they'v done better.

# Apr 21, 2006 @ 7:35 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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289. shutkski writes:

i agree with you...nothing new or better in Sep's new album...

to chelsey on 290: "Part of being a good musician is to have the ability and willingness to change, trying different things, and taking risks." True...but...change to improve is one thing...i just hope i'm wrong and that on the 2nd of may, when i get my original, i hope i can be the 1st guy to get here and say lots of good things about it...i hope...

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290. Cynic writes:

Dante what ever what just a "return to form.... well not really" album.

10.000 days to go people, I've still resisted downloading anything yet. I'm thinking about locking myself in a some sort of cell with a stereo for a while afterwards.

# Apr 21, 2006 @ 8:15 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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291. shutkski writes:

man, just do the freakin' download...you can always buy yhe album, it won't make any harm...i'm tryin' by all means to dwl it... :P

# Apr 21, 2006 @ 8:48 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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292. Roland138 writes:

Cynic, that's not what your girlfriend said while she dug her nails into my back. And contrary to what it said on the bathroom stall door, she's not that good. Snoogans.

That's awesome that the majority of you have downloaded the album already. Its nice to see that IP theft is becoming commonplace and acceptable. I think I'll wait and hear the songs at Coachella, played live, 2 days before the album releases. Yeah. I think that would be a much better experience than listening to some downloaded version of someone elses stolen property. Oh, wait. I forgot that I SUCK, and must just be some crazy purist who respects someone elses things. My bad.

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293. Roland138 writes:

Cynic, that's not what your girlfriend said while she dug her nails into my back. And contrary to what it said on the bathroom stall door, she's not that good. Snoogans.

That's awesome that the majority of you have downloaded the album already. Its nice to see that IP theft is becoming commonplace and acceptable. I think I'll wait and hear the songs at Coachella, played live, 2 days before the album releases. Yeah. I think that would be a much better experience than listening to some downloaded version of someone elses stolen property. Oh, wait. I forgot that I SUCK, and must just be some crazy purist who respects someone elses things. My bad.

# Apr 21, 2006 @ 11:03 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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294. shutkski writes:

lol, no comments....

# Apr 21, 2006 @ 1:48 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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295. shutkski writes:

ok, some comments...just because i downloaded it from p2p doesn't mean i'm a thief...you go up talk to the album publishers like virgin warner and stuff...they're the thieves...all i want is to know how it is before BUYING IT. Purism won't hurt... I hope you enjoy it at coachella...i'm also looking forward to enjoy it here at Lisbon on Super Bock Super Rock festival, May 26th...

# Apr 21, 2006 @ 1:53 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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296. Landon writes:

If what I've heard is the new album then I'm a bit disappointed. There are some great songs on there, but the production is not the greatest and I'm hearing stuff that could easily have come out of both the Aenima and Lateralus sessions. Me and some friends have this theory that what has been leaked is NOT the true album, but a collection of b-sides and/or a "disc 2" to the real thing. Maynard's vocals are certain odd in some places, too, and there's really no consistency to it all. Perhaps "Vicarious" is from the real album while the rest is not. We'll only know when it's finally released. If what many of us has heard from the leak is the real thing I sure hope the production on the official release sound better.

# Apr 21, 2006 @ 4:52 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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297. Landon writes:

here's something to make you salivate:

http://www.theninhotline.net/toolnews/archives/news.images/xmdays_package.jpg

# Apr 21, 2006 @ 4:59 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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298. shutkski writes:

gosh...it doesn't make me salivate at all...it even disappoints me more...right now i was starting to think like Landon (theory of 2 discs, one with b-sides and the other with the real deal...)...

# Apr 21, 2006 @ 5:26 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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299. Landon writes:

Even more interesting news (if Oprah is correct):

--Reports claim that Oprah Winfrey has leaked information that Tools upcoming album entitled, "10,000 days", is actually part of a double album. The second part of the series entitled, "10,000 years", is set to be released 14 days following the release of "10,000 days". "10,000 days relating to singer Maynard's mother, will be drawn out into an epic, ending with "10,000 years", explaining how humanity will suffer the same fate as judith marie did for 10,000 days (a paralyzed noble woman confined to a wheelchair, while waiting for the redemption of God, much like humanity has waited 10,000 years for the same peril).--

And, something else to think about, which makes sense when you know Tool's extensive knowledge in high magick, numerology, and Thelema:

Viginti Tres is track 11.
Viginti Tres= 23.
Viginti Tres= Latin Language
Latin Language was spoken in Corinth around the time of the scriptures.

Corinthians 11:23

For I received from the Lord what I also handed on to you, that the Lord Jesus on the night when he was betrayed took a loaf of bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, ‘This is my body that is for you. Do this in remembrance of me.’ In the same way he took the cup also, after supper, saying, ‘This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me.’ For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes.

(This is the script describing the last supper and makes reference as to the second coming of Christ.)

"Now From Above: Translated to English."
one infinity
the horror begins in autumn
this is your trial, now prove your (power, might, ability; efficacy, potency)
Twenty three steps to total power.

One Infinity (One exhistance, one time line, one fate for us all.)
the horror begins in autumn (Reference to some event... Revelations, the catalyst for it?)
this is your trial, now prove your potency (The trial is in reference to the Rapture, The potency is in reference to your "childlike" faith, required as enterance into heaven.)
Twenty three steps to total power (The 23 Enigma. Each parent contributes 23 chromosomes to the DNA of a child. December 23, 2012 is the date the Mayan calendar ends, predicting an apocalyptic event. Twenty-two organizations merged to create the "Department of Homeland Security". This makes the DHS the twenty-third. Many things fall with the 23 enigma, it is a type of apophenia.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_23_enigma

The first album has 11 tracks. Perhaps, if the rumor is true, that the "10,000 Years" album will be 12 tracks. And, perhaps this is Tool's sneaky way of saying this is their last album.

# Apr 21, 2006 @ 5:30 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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300. Landon writes:

"gosh...it doesn't make me salivate at all...it even disappoints me more...right now i was starting to think like Landon (theory of 2 discs, one with b-sides and the other with the real deal...)..."

Yeah, I should have mentioned my sarcasm. It's not the prettiest package at all. But whatever.

# Apr 21, 2006 @ 5:33 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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301. Peter writes:

the mayan calander doesn't end dec 23rd, it's dec 26th. i think people are just trying to stretch things too much to make everything evolve around 23...

# Apr 21, 2006 @ 7:08 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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302. LeperKhan writes:

More fuel for the "fake album" theory.... consider that this album was leaked like a day before April 20th.... 420, aka "lets get stoned" day. Half of the tracks titles have something to do with drugs, and Tool has long been associated with psychedelia... I can imagine no finer practical joke than to leak an intentionally bad Tool album right before 420, so that thousands of stoned people are tricked into believing a bad album is actually good. The songs I heard are awful, end of story. It seems almost as if the guys jsut had a few jam sessions, produced the recordings a little bit, and "leaked" it to ensure that the boards and torrents would be inundated with a crap album...perhaps to punish file sharers.

Seriously, considering that a huge number of people have been dissappointed by Vicarious... and that Vicarious is probably the best song on the album... this is a very very bad album. I hope its a joke.

# Apr 21, 2006 @ 8:23 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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303. Maro writes:

I am also thinking this is a joke...but it's a good one, if it is. It doesn't sound like them at all, but it's damn funny. If you've heard Rosetta Stoned or Lipan Conjuring, you can see that they fit in with Maynard's sence of humor quite nicely.

You can actually jam to Rosetta Stoned, though. Vicarious isn't really that bad, I say. It's different, almpst APC-like, but good none the less.

Even Wings for Marie and 10,000 Days sound good, in a stoner sort of way (As if someone has been sipping on the poppy-style-calmness).

If the CD is real as-is, I'll be slightly disappointed, but I'll be fine with it. If it is fake (probably), I'll still keep this album because it amuses me.

So...there you go. Just enjoy it. And I am The One.

# Apr 21, 2006 @ 9:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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304. c war writes:

tool kicks a$$ what happen to all the metal shows on fuse

# Apr 21, 2006 @ 9:19 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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305. Maro writes:

Sorry about the double post, but the Mayan Calendar ends on December 21, 2012.

# Apr 21, 2006 @ 9:19 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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306. Maro writes:

Sorry about the double post, but the Mayan Calendar ends on December 21, 2012.

# Apr 21, 2006 @ 9:19 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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307. shutkski writes:

boy..."It may not be exactly what you are expecting, but it is exactly what you are waiting for." (about the album, on toolshed)...and i'm kinda thinking like that...even if it's a fake..."even if" a lot of things...this is a very odd album...PLEASE OH PLEASE STUPID f***ING CALENDAR, YOU MOVE!!! YOU MOVE!!! MOOOVEEEEE!!!!!!!

# Apr 22, 2006 @ 8:13 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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308. shutkski writes:

sorry...no more drugs for me xD

# Apr 22, 2006 @ 8:15 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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309. fictitious writes:

its not fair.

# Apr 22, 2006 @ 7:49 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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310. UNGH writes:

Even if this is largely considered their "worst" album, which just isn't true in my opinion, it will still be entire leagues away from most of the generic trash put out by "rock" bands these days. I didn't like the album at first, and the more I listen to it, the more it grows on me. It's a depressing album on the whole; it's more emotional and less abstract. Most of the album has a very heavy feel; the songs are deep in melody and what some would call beautiful. Its not psychadelic.

# Apr 22, 2006 @ 8:14 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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311. Brandon writes:

I walked into a local Hop Topic today and saw new TOOL stickers, you know, the one with the new logos that I think looks strangely like "fool"...Well, I decided to buy one and I set it on the counter and just put down and 5, and waited for a worker to check me out, then he informs me that they were free...I thought this was a bit odd. Why would TOOL give out a bunch of free stickers if they were legit stickers...i don't know...make your own conclusions...I have yet to make up my mind whether the album is real or not. I have also yet to hear it. I've heard Vicarious on the radio, but im kind of anti music theft. I don't have a problem with those who do in fact do it...I just prefer not to...Now im just blabbing...goodbye.

# Apr 23, 2006 @ 1:22 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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312. Brandon writes:

Excuse my grammatical errors...im SUPER tired...

And by "Hop Topic" I mean "Hot Topic" :)

# Apr 23, 2006 @ 1:41 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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313. psythe writes:

you know, the cheaper the product, the higher the consumption rate...maybe tool just want to advertise themselves in the same way that Coca Cola do; by having their logo/name EVERYWHERE, and figure that to do that they'll have to give out stickers for free, otherwise not as many people will get them and stick them places...does that make sense??

# Apr 23, 2006 @ 6:00 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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314. Brandon writes:

Yeah, but TOOL doesn't seem like a band that would want to do something like that, seems like something they've always been against. you could be right though...goddamn, who knows. :/

# Apr 23, 2006 @ 7:39 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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315. UNGH writes:

I'd be interested to know where that Oprah Winfrey leak on the 10,000 Days being a double album information came from. Was it totally made up?

# Apr 23, 2006 @ 2:50 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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316. psythe writes:

UNGH, i'd bet most of the "info" on the tool album is made up. If not by Tool to throw us and the media off, then by fans trying to decipher the cryptic band, or by idiots having a laugh at fans trying to decipher them.

To be honest, though, I hope it is a double album - hey, the more Tool, the better, right?

# Apr 24, 2006 @ 3:41 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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317. shutkski writes:

but then...you enter a dillema...the more Tool, the better...correct..but the "double album" theory also says that this should be the last album of the band...that they'll split up...no more cd's for us...that's maybe why the tickets for their shows are so f***ing expensive...

# Apr 24, 2006 @ 5:30 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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318. shutkski writes:

but then...you enter a dillema...the more Tool, the better...correct..but the "double album" theory also says that this should be the last album of the band...that they'll split up...no more cd's for us...that's maybe why the tickets for their shows are so f***ing expensive...

# Apr 24, 2006 @ 5:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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319. hi writes:

tool show in phoenix sold out in 2 minutes. its f***ing BS. they are playing in a small a$$ place. ANNOYING!

# Apr 24, 2006 @ 6:04 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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320. FortySix&2 writes:

okay since i just joined and was unable to comment on the thread about the track listing...ya know the discussion about wether or not the song titles were going to change...anyways im going to give you guys the facts:
-Song Titles have absolutely no bearing on the quality of the songs, at least in the holistic sense, in the marketing and business world they can make a big difference
-TOOL doesnt really give a f*** about the marketing and business world
-To make accurate reviews of an art work, one must first ACTUALLY EXPERIENCE IT! therefore:
-People that say they like a cd/song less b/c of its titles are superficial
-The titles MAY be hyjinx by the band, to poke fun of superficial people
-All previous albums have had rare/unusual/'cool' titles.
-Just because this one doesn't, doesn't mean that its not as good
-I have already heard "10 000 Days' in its entirety
-THIS CD IS F***ING AWESOME!
-Anyone that does not spend $15-20 for it, is an idiot
-I've heard friends say they dont like it as much as older albums [they're idiots by the way] because flavours of APC and Pigmy Love Circus bleed thru, they say they dont like some of Maynard's vocal as well [again, they are judging just his pitch in 'The Pot', and are too preoccupied with that to listen to the words and rythyme, they're idiots]
-Maynard uses a lot more religious allegories in these songs, and almost all of them are six minuets or longer
-My personal favorites are 'Rosetta Stoned' 'The Pot' 'Jambi' 'Vicarious' and 'Right In Two' these are definately song to keep an eye on when i first heard 'Vicarious' it reminded me of 'Schism' with a hint of 'The Grudge' 'Rosetta Stoned' is something like 'Ticks & Leeches' and 'Undertow' 'Jambi' has an atmosphere of 'H.' and the best thing to compare to 'The Pot' would be 'Crawl Away' b/c of its high energy, aggressive lyrics and beats 'The Pot' has a couple of themes it of course talks about getting high, but also touches on politics/hypocrites/liars one lines goes something like "you p***ed all over my black kettle" as to say "The POT calling the KETTLE BLACK" ergo: song about hypocites. I think Maynard design the high pitched vocal entrance to this song to see how many "tools" would be turned off by it [again hypocrite], and it worked on my friends, but not me heh.
-Even though i have a botleg, im going to buy two copies next tuesday
-I suggest you all do the same


# Apr 24, 2006 @ 9:19 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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321. Cynic writes:

"People that say they like a cd/song less b/c of its titles are superficial"

"they say they dont like some of Maynard's vocal as well [again, they are judging just his pitch in 'The Pot', and are too preoccupied with that to listen to the words and rythyme, they're idiots]"

Now to me that smacks of hypocracy. Anyway I'm not trying to attack you dude, alot of people around here are tightly wound...

I was going to avoid the downloading thing and buy the album, but the other a guy handed a flash drive to me with the whole album on it so I've ghad a listen. I'm still going to buy it though, its pretty good.

As the great man Chuck Schuldiner used to say, "Support music, not rumors"

# Apr 24, 2006 @ 10:33 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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322. Brandon writes:

It seems like i'm the only patient one in here...8 days :/

# Apr 25, 2006 @ 12:03 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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323. FGK writes:

I just got the whole leaked album, which may or not be part of a two disk set... It'll take some getting used to as only 2 or 3 songs actually sound like Maynard... it's just too early for me to form an opinion on it thats substantial, but at first glance I have to agree with what FortySix&2's (From post 326) complaining friends are saying to some extent. Maynards voice did dissappoint me for the most part, but I admit that's because he's the main reason I've been a Tool fan for 10 years. Whether that makes me a fake fan or not is your opinion. There aren't any hardcore screams, and some songs you wouldn't even know it was him because of the effects that are in use. I will say this though... "Right In Two" is f*cking awesome. Its the one song where he just sings like he always has, and its phenomenal musically, especially the exlosive build up at the end. Vicarious is growing on me too, and is probably the next best song. The Marie songs (Wings for Marie and 10,000 Days, a two part deal) are great also. Beautiful, deep, and moving pieces. Maynard has an effect on his voice, which normally I'd be annoyed by, but they work well with these two songs. I actually didn't like them at first, but as always with Tool songs, they just grow with you. I can't wait to go get the real deal May 2nd. And to that guy who couldn't get tickets to the Phoenix show... I stayed up sitting in front of my computer on Ticket Master to get some tickets for either the one in PA or NYC. I clicked the button for one the second 10 AM hit and the option became available, and my friend did it for the other right next to me on another computer. We both failed, which means over 2000 people clicked in for each show the second it all started. So really, the show probably sold out in .004 of a second in Phoenix rather than 2 minutes... that's just how long it took for it all to register. Damn... but what you can expect for a small venue show featuring the greatest band of all time. I'm counting down the days for the regular big venue tour...

# Apr 25, 2006 @ 12:59 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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324. See Your Rose *he he* writes:

10,000 days I think is the approximate time that Maynard has been singing, maybe someone else already mentioned that?

# Apr 25, 2006 @ 4:10 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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325. psythe writes:

a lot of people mentioned a lot of things that 10,000 days is; everything from geographical numerology or whatever that thing was, how long Maynard's mother survived after having a stroke or something, something to do with the Mayan calendar, the lunar cycle, something to do with the Vietnam War, and all sorts of other theories. start from the top of the thread, scroll down and read between the lines.

# Apr 25, 2006 @ 4:27 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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326. Broz writes:

I have the whole 10,000 Days CD... It has leaked and I'm holding it in my hands...Tracks 1, 5, 8, and 10 are cool. The rest are iffy. Now, just for those who doubted the CD leak.... Ask me for proof, All the above names of the songs are true....

So, for all of you spectators, that did doubt the CD leak, it is not a rumor!!! And it is definately TOOL.

# Apr 25, 2006 @ 5:09 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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327. Ted Johnson writes:

My theory is that maynard is always singing about my grandfathers fight with the war with Korea, I actually know that maynard knows right and wrong, and he knows how people suffered because of this.... you shallow minded fools don't realize the simple message of Maynard in his lyrics. so , do me a favor and shut up!! at least for a while.

# Apr 25, 2006 @ 5:16 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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328. See Your Rose *he he* writes:

Rosetta Stoned is not about drugs, I'ts about alien abduction... and sodomy... Sorry to spoil, guys

# Apr 25, 2006 @ 5:17 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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329. nightowl_significa writes:

(333/334) Ted Johnson: Surely shallow minded fools would see the simple meaning before going into greater depth? I love the fact that no matter how much i speculate about the lyrics in Tool songs, i can always find a way to undermine myself and form a different view. The only way i'll know is if i talk to Maynard and we all know that's not going to happen. You cannot force people to share your viewpoints so do not try...

# Apr 25, 2006 @ 5:35 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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330. Bill writes:

Ted Johnson does not exist, it was just a joke, haha

# Apr 25, 2006 @ 6:04 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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331. Brandon writes:

One Week...

# Apr 25, 2006 @ 10:15 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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332. Severed writes:

If you're getting it on 2nd May over in USA, chances are here in UK we'lll get it 1st May.

Which would pretty much kill any element of surprise planned for the release for any tool fans in the USA that read sites like this.

Also, the label would never allow sites like amazon to display a fake title this close to release (what with the pre-order period long since started) and the album will have already gone to press, so if the titles were fake, we'd know about it.

Same goes for if it's a double disc package, surely.

# Apr 26, 2006 @ 10:31 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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333. Severed writes:

Just checked amazon UK, yeah, hit's our shelves 1st May.

# Apr 26, 2006 @ 10:32 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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334. Severed writes:

And - just got hold of some more shots of the artwork.

http://i3.tinypic.com/wh19iq.jpg

http://i3.tinypic.com/wh1b80.jpg

http://i3.tinypic.com/wh1bty.jpg

http://i3.tinypic.com/wh1cb8.jpg

http://i3.tinypic.com/wh1czt.jpg

http://i3.tinypic.com/wh1eo4.jpg

http://i3.tinypic.com/wh1flg.jpg

http://i3.tinypic.com/wh1idw.jpg

http://i3.tinypic.com/wh1ism.jpg

http://i3.tinypic.com/wh1hkn.jpg

http://i3.tinypic.com/wh1kys.jpg

http://i3.tinypic.com/wh1mbp.jpg

http://i3.tinypic.com/wh1o47.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a152/victoriasixxsixxsixx/dsc001375zd.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a152/victoriasixxsixxsixx/dsc001345vr.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a152/victoriasixxsixxsixx/dsc001285en.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a152/victoriasixxsixxsixx/dsc001274wh.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a152/victoriasixxsixxsixx/dsc001398be.jpg

# Apr 26, 2006 @ 11:13 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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335. Brandon writes:

None of those pictures really match a specific theme...

# Apr 26, 2006 @ 3:24 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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336. psythe writes:

Severed - you've gotta take different time-zones into account, though. i dunno which way it goes, but May 1st in the UK could well be May 2nd in the US, or at least, they may cross-over or something. lol, did that make sense? alright, i'm gonna check out those pictures now. bring on May!

# Apr 27, 2006 @ 3:41 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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337. wil writes:

the wool will be removed from your eyes...do not be surprised when a real big fat f***ing i told you so comes out...10,000 days...why would tool even attempt putting an album out that resebled anything disturbed has ever marketed...disturbed even has a song called the pot...sheep...you will see...ignivomous is going to hit you hard...that is why they are doing this...not to be d***s...but to prove a point...the industry has been f***ed by search engines...the artist no longer has control over the music...this is the best way...come on...the vicarious single leaked...it has already been stated that they invested alot of money recording a fake album...they have the money to do it...they would definitely do it and anyone who thinks otherwise does not know tool...i met maynard face to face and he lied to me about david cross....supposedly one of his close friends...you all will see...they are proving a point...it doesn;t matter because the album is going to sell...how about viscera? os? steel and paint? there will be a ten thousand days but just like the website said the answer is in front of your face

# Apr 27, 2006 @ 4:09 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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338. Severed writes:

psythe - We're only about 6 hours apart in time zones, infact central USA is 6 hours behind us, so the album will hit central USA 30 hours after UK stores.

One of the (very, very few) benefits of living this side of the pond. We get all album releases on Monday mornings.

But the '10,000 Days' leak (be it real or genuine) spread in minutes, so with the internet, it hardly takes 30 hours to spread a secret. And most of the folk buying the album are going to be over in USA (there's a lot more of you!)

It just seems, that if the album is a fake - for this reason it's a really flawed plan.

# Apr 27, 2006 @ 8:30 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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339. LFTM writes:

k, just got the full CD (genuine product) and am giving it a first listen.

MINDf*** TRIP CLASS A+

It's one CD, all the titles are correct and the artwork is awesome.

Tool does not dissapoint ;-)

# Apr 27, 2006 @ 9:48 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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340. RememberMetal? writes:

Wil I was inclined to believe you, but the album is out....

Theres a rumor that 10K days is a collection of reworked and unfinished songs from previous sessions but "Wings for Marie" is about Maynards now deceased mother, not likely something to use as a hoax...The other songs leaked too, though I've only heard Vicarious in full....

I hear Tool is releasing something on 6/6/06 like half of the other active heavy bands in the world are but.....the timing just seems odd to pull a rabbit out of a hat this late in the day.

Please tell us what is right in our faces that we are all clearly missing.

# Apr 27, 2006 @ 10:14 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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341. Brandon writes:

I gave in and listened to the album...i regret my decision, as for I was very dissapointed. Honestly, there are really only 3 sold tracks on the whole album...vocals remind me of eMOTIVe. I really hope theres is either another half still to come, or this is just a hoax album.

# Apr 28, 2006 @ 12:03 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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342. psythe writes:

Severed, thanks for clarifying that, i didnt actually bother finding out what the time difference was myself, obviously, so it's good to see that someone's on the ball with these things. I'm in Australia, where I think I heard the album is due for release on May 1st also, which is an awesome way to start another term of university studies, hey!

if the "album" you are all referring to at the moment is the same one that was leaked all those days ago, then you should be happy to know that apparently most of those songs are actually songs by a band called Isis, who are to tour with Tool as an opening band, and appear to have a lot of cross-over fans with Tool. I read about this on this thread, I think, way up there ^ somewhere. For more detail, read the original posts stating this Tool/Isis theory - the posts are by xrawbx, starting at post number 161 (how nice is that, I even bothered to find the damned thing FOR you, no easy task believe me). enjoy.

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343. FGK writes:

The Isis theory is done and over with. Back when those guys were posting that stuff I found tons of fake songs that were in fact Isis along with many other bands. Since that time I found all the real songs. I don't know what the rules are on posting this type of stuff so I'll be as obvious as I can be without actually stating where/how to get it. The p2p program: L*mew*re. The album title. The m4a files, not the mp3's. Trust me, I've listened to the whole album and it is Maynard singing. The album takes getting used to, but it really grows on you. Songs like "Right In Two" are amazing. The only theory left alive is that these songs might be left overs that Tool let get leaked on purpose. Seriously.... if that were true... then get ready to be annihilated by the greatest album ever made!!! I mean this album that leaked is already amazing, so if its their "crap" work then there is no limitation to how ridiculous their other stuff must be. May 2nd, May 2nd, May 2nd... can't wait.

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344. Soulongod writes:

The only thing bad about this leaked album, is that it seems only to have 7 songs (seems kinda short). Since all the songs are really long or meshed together. I have been enjoying it daily and plan to buy the ablum on May 2nd. So don't get your panties in a bunch. It would be awesome if there were another half to this. Now my (p***s)hopes are up only to (c u m)come crashing down on my face.

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345. soulongod writes:

The only thing bad about this leaked album, is that it seems only to have 7 songs (seems kinda short). Since all the songs are really long or meshed together. I have been enjoying it daily and plan to buy the ablum on May 2nd. So don't get your panties in a bunch. It would be awesome if there were another half to this. Now my (p e n i s) hopes are up only to (c u m)come crashing down on my face

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