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Black Sabbath Responds To Bill Ward Statement; Reunion To Proceed Without Him

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It appears the Facebook snubbing between Ozzy Osbourne, Tony Iommi, Geezer Butler and Bill Ward continues. Black Sabbath has decided to proceed with the album and tour without the drummer with the following response to Bill Ward's recent post:

"We were saddened to hear yesterday via Facebook that Bill declined publicly to participate in our current Black Sabbath plans...we have no choice but to continue recording without him although our door is always open... We are still in the UK with Tony. Writing and recording the new album and on a roll... See you at Download!!!

- Tony, Ozzy and Geezer"

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Drum_Junkie's avatar

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1. Drum_Junkie writes:

Sounds like it won't be a true reunion. I still stand behind Bill on this.

# Feb 3, 2012 @ 2:46 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. cbella writes:

What the hell? This 'reunion' should be made into a Spinal-Tap-esque movie - it writes itself!

# Feb 3, 2012 @ 3:05 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. R10 writes:

Aah,fvckin hilarious! Bring in Mike Bordin or whoever Ozzys current drummer is. Sounds like this whole thing is a crash and burn. Completely negate an original members contribution like its nothing. Pfft. Business... Money... Sick of it already!

# Feb 3, 2012 @ 3:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. Drum_Junkie writes:

R10, that would be Tommy Clufetos... sorry, but we wasn't even BORN until after Ozzy split. Vinnie Appice would be the the next logical choice. He's been the 2nd string multiple times. Even so, It's not a reunion without Bill.
No Bill - No Sabbath.

# Feb 3, 2012 @ 3:30 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. Blindgreed1 writes:

I'd pay to see Vinny with em and I'll buy the fvcking album. I'm stoked for new Sabbath with Ozzy up front. Doesn't really negate anything for me. I've seen Bill with em plenty of times. Bring on the album! \m/\m/ It would have been nice to see the original line up again, but it certainly isn't a deal breaker for me in any way.

# Feb 3, 2012 @ 4:40 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. R10 writes:

No Bill Ward-no Sabbath! I saw the '97 Ozzfest with Mike Bordin behind the kit;awesome,but not the true Sabbath. Glad i saw Ward with Sabbath in '99 and '05. Its about recording new material with the ORIGINAL members,then a final tour. Wards no hired hand like some of Ozzy's past drummers. He deserves his fair split on this 'cash cow' final album and tour.

# Feb 3, 2012 @ 4:49 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. Drum_Junkie writes:

Interesting view Blind. So, are suggesting that without Bill it's OK, but without Ozzy it's not OK?

My view is that ALL four of them are equally important. I think Bill just wants to be treated as well as the other gents.

# Feb 3, 2012 @ 5:17 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. tyou writes:

what a bunch of greedy a$$holes. pay the man.

# Feb 3, 2012 @ 7:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. hellrat writes:

Ha!, was right again...a truly canned statement

Not much of a challenge though, all this sh!t is entirely fvcking predictable

I agree with Bella...frikken slapstick comedy ya know

Spineless Sabbath: Floundering Flunkies of a Gold Digging Haggy-Snatched Whore Cvnt

# Feb 3, 2012 @ 7:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. silvermountains writes:

wow..........


just lost a lot of respect for sabbath
and thats something i wish i didn't have
to say,
but yes,
wow.
sorry Bill

# Feb 3, 2012 @ 8:05 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. Diamond Oz writes:

I don't feel disappointed because I didn't feel any excitement about the reunion in the first place. Score one for the cynical!

# Feb 3, 2012 @ 8:24 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. hellrat writes:

Ha! I'm right there with ya you cynical bastard :)

Wasn't enthused from the get go, and knew it would never work

NP---Learn from this Mistake---DOWN Live at Glasgow

# Feb 3, 2012 @ 8:34 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. OccuppySabbath writes:

This is bs, I set a Fb Page OccupySabbath to say "like it" and send the message "give him a fair sign-able contract so I/We can see Sabbath!" This is more about them than their fans!

# Feb 3, 2012 @ 9:25 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. btbamfav20 writes:

Good, get his a$$ outta here. And u "true re-union" asshats have to realize theres this thing called money, and most people will do anything to get MORE. f*** those people, and f*** their whining. When u have millions as this a$$hole has, and ur willing to publicly state that u WON'T do the reunion unless he gets more of something (probably money) then he shouldn't continue with it. The rest of the band responded as any adult would with a child, called the bluff. Now the band can continue without being hindered by a bandmate that needs more than the others.

NP: Supporting Caste - Propagandhi

# Feb 3, 2012 @ 9:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. hellrat writes:

Good Lord Bambam, you been swillin the nail polish remover again?

Since ya apparently didn't pay much attention the first time around, you'd better go back and retake Metal Kindergarten ;)

You know I love ya young brother, but in this case you have NO idea what the hell yer flappin about :)

NP---Smoky Mountain Rain---Ronnie Milsap

# Feb 3, 2012 @ 10:10 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. i don't recall bill saying writes:

that he would not participate in the project??? Where did it say that? He said he had doubts; that is not the same thing!

# Feb 3, 2012 @ 10:15 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. Vafutiti writes:

Looks to me like it was staged all along. Bill probably has poor health and can't do it anymore so this comes along and poof!, the excuse to use a replacement drummer.
I'm sure the other three aren't hurting for money, so then do it for the FANS, remember, we bought YOUR albums and YOU made money. Sabbath is only Sabbath with Bill in it, not a continuation of Heaven and Hell with Ronnie being replaced with Ozzy.

# Feb 3, 2012 @ 10:47 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. Overlord writes:

Metallica v2

# Feb 4, 2012 @ 10:20 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. doom4ever writes:

sabbath is my favorite band of all time,but sabbath without bill ward isnt sabbath.they should reconsider,and give bill what he deserves an equal share.what a bummer.

# Feb 4, 2012 @ 11:16 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. xulbehemoth509 writes:

If you are going to propose a full reunion, tour and album, with original members...then it negates everything that was set forth. I saw the reunion in '99 & '05 and that's what I'm hoping for now. It won't be the same if Bill isn't on the album. I'll still buy the album but won't see the tour

# Feb 4, 2012 @ 3:24 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. ZMA writes:

I was mad. But now I don't care. The album will still probably be good, and now like others have said their won't be any hindering.

# Feb 4, 2012 @ 3:37 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. spiral_architect writes:

VERY SAD NEWS ABOUT THE BLACK SABBATH BAND MEMBER DYNAMICS. WE SHOULD KEEP IN MIND THAT TONY IOMMI IS THE HEART OF SABBATH THOUGH. THEY SHOULD BRING IN VINNY APPICE IF A REPLACEMENT DRUMMER IS NECESSARY.

# Feb 4, 2012 @ 6:32 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. Drum_Junkie writes:

^ And Bill is the legs - different function, equally important.

Is anyone else disappointed in the way they handled this?
"saddened"? Is that all they are? They've known Bill most their lives and they're just saddened.
And don't get me started on the whole "no other choice..."

Canned statement indeed. Gotta admit. You called it Hellrat.

# Feb 5, 2012 @ 2:36 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. R10 writes:

Yea HR had this one pegged from the get go,no doubt. Its really a shame that it all comes down to $$$! Sad but true. Kind of takes the excitement away,the whole origanal line-up doing one last album,and tour. Hopefully things are resolved.

# Feb 5, 2012 @ 8:38 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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25. Scot Tomaras writes:

To Bill--Tony--Geezer--Ozzy......Pull it together mates. We as your loyal Fans deserve this Album and Tour. If $$ is the issue then do the whole thing for Charity.

# Feb 5, 2012 @ 11:07 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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26. coaster writes:

Bands change members all the time...this seems like greed has taken over. No1 knows all the details and Sharon seems to cop alot of the blame, and maybe she is partly to blame. HOwever, both Sabbath and Ozzy wouldnt be the massive names they are without her.

# Feb 5, 2012 @ 5:27 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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27. HMR writes:

Wasn't having all four original members on the new album the whole point of this particular Black Sabbath reunion, according to their 11-11-11 announcement?

# Feb 5, 2012 @ 6:45 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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28. ThrashtillDeathTFV writes:

This isnt a deal breaker but this is realy bad news. as a drummer my self this sucks bill is a better drum than most give him credit for. PAY THE MAN WRITE UP A NEW CONTRACT. METAL IS MORE IMPORTANT RIGHTNOW! The tour and album will still be amazing by any meens but its quite sad

# Feb 6, 2012 @ 10:45 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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29. citrus_tea writes:

Contract negotiations are best done in private.
It is also crappy when the management power is married to the Lead Singer (Sepultura!)
Once Bill aired this publicly the response from the other members was pretty much inevitable.

# Feb 6, 2012 @ 12:12 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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30. metaljus writes:

wtf bunch of panzies.... they need to get their mind right and pay respect to that cat

# Feb 6, 2012 @ 11:54 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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31. ZMA writes:

Well I'd much rather have Ward on the skins but of course that sh!t won't happen now.

# Feb 7, 2012 @ 3:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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32. brandedcfh420 writes:

WELL, BILL WAS FIRED FROM SABBATH BY THAT CVNT WIFE OF OZZY..................

# Feb 7, 2012 @ 3:49 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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33. ZMA writes:

Super gay........

# Feb 7, 2012 @ 5:55 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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34. wilco writes:

bill needs to be with the black sabbath other wise forgot
the whole reunion thing would like to see bs on graspop but if this would be to much drama forget the whole thing

# Feb 8, 2012 @ 10:30 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address

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