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Metallica Writing Material For New Album

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In a recent interview with Tabloid!, Robert Trujillo, the bass player of American heavy metal legends Metallica, revealed that the band has begun work on the next studio album. An excerpt from the interview in which he discusses new material reads as follows:

Tabloid!: In terms of new music, your last album, Death Magnetic, was out in 2008, and you have been touring heavily with that. Are you currently working on new material?

Trujillo: "We've been busy writing and recording. We've got a couple of new songs we have been working on the past couple of weeks. The writing process for the new Metallica album has begun. We've been in the studio with Rick Rubin, working on a couple of things, and we're going to be recording during the most of next year. We've got a lot of work ahead of us. But the great thing is that we have sort of already jumped off the launch pad and we're swimming. It's happening. It's reality. It's a lot of fun, there are a lot of ideas, and we're really excited about the new record. For me, personally, Death Magnetic was the launch pad for the next record. This is the beginning of something very, very cool."

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1. TheRaper writes:

why even bother anymore? nobody cares, it'll sound like crap, what's the point?

# Oct 26, 2011 @ 9:34 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. Diamond Oz writes:

I was reading a really good article yesterday about it would actually benefit Metallica to stop trying to gain metal cred and just sell out. Here it is if anyone's interested.

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2011/10/metallicas-lulu-problem-why-dont-they-just-sell-out-again/247295/

# Oct 26, 2011 @ 9:40 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. BrianMN writes:

I disagree with EVERY SINGLE WORD of that article.
This was obviously written by a fan of the black album which I never was nor will be.
To say Met wasn't the best thrash band of the 80's???
People will always have their favs.
But as far as I'm concerned...
sorry but were it not for Met there wouldn't have been thrash movement.
Nothing can touch their first four albums period.
Cliff dying is what ruined this band.
Hopefully Lars and James will pull their heads out of their a$$es and let Trujillo write some of the material.
The thing that worries me most is them working with Rubin again.
Work with Sneap and get a decent sounding album.
Sneap.
Colin Richardson.
Hell, get Rob Flynn, new MH sounds awesome.
The only thing about that article I agreed with is that yes, they DO have a good album left in them.
A thrash album, not the beer chugging, frat boy crap they started crapping out after Justice.

# Oct 26, 2011 @ 10:33 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. twobntouch writes:

@Diamond, good article! I hate to say it, but I think the writer is right. I'd rather have the black or Load before any of the latest crap. Please sell out again Metallica so you don't clog the radio stations with Loumetallica.

# Oct 26, 2011 @ 10:34 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. THRASH TILL DEATH writes:

anything would be better than lulu i supose. we'll just have to see what happens probly gona sound like death magnetic again but who knows

# Oct 26, 2011 @ 10:44 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. 9Maggot9 writes:

Cant they just frigging die already >;.>;?

# Oct 26, 2011 @ 10:50 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. spiral_architect writes:

NOTHING CAN TOUCH THE FIRST FOUR ALBUMS!EVERYTHING HAD BEEN A DOWNHILL SLIDE AFTER THE BLACK ALBUM UNTIL DEATH MAGNETIC. EVERYONE KNOWS THE DOWNHILL SLIDE HAS CONTINUED WITH THE LULU FIASCO. I AM STILL WILLING TO GIVE THE BAND A CHANCE WITH FUTURE MATERIAL.

# Oct 26, 2011 @ 11:18 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. Greyback writes:

They just need to shove off and die already. It's like watching a hourse be flogged to death after the AJFA album. Seriously, just stop. You guys suck, you've got all the money you could ever want, please, just save our ears! Oh, and Lulu is probably going to be a fail at least frmo what I can gather in the previews.

# Oct 26, 2011 @ 11:31 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. dwizard writes:

so sick of people trashing metallica. as a metal head i will always give them a chance. i relate personally with james and the rest are great musicians...and yes put alote more into ROBERTS hands. james is getting more and more cleaner with his vocals...im not a fan of btw. so fellas sit down and review the first 4 albums and build from that style. dethmagnetic was good but lets get some more aggression please....AMERICAN METAL HEADS ARE p***ed OFF THESE DAYS...give us something to relate too.

# Oct 26, 2011 @ 11:38 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. coldiem writes:

Why bother? I'll explain, but, you'll all have to bare with me here, this is going to be a difficult concept to understand.

Some people actually have an opinion that is different than your's! Believe it or not, your opinion isn't the only one that matters!

I know it's tough but maybe someday you'll understand. Metallica still sells out shows with thousands upon thousands of attendees, so obviously there are a few people out there who actually DO want to hear a new album.

If everyone at your workplace thought your job was worthless and irrelevant, yet your employer still paid you to do it and you enjoyed it, would you quit because of what your co-workers thought of you? I think not.

# Oct 26, 2011 @ 11:59 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. lumpus5 writes:

im so sick of people kissing these has beens asses, they stopped thrashing ages ago, now their sorry music is repetitive crap, most metal fans dont even care about these knobs anymore.

# Oct 26, 2011 @ 12:11 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. Diamond Oz writes:

"im so sick of people kissing these has beens asses"

Two comments so far have said they want Metallica to die along with such other comments as "nobody cares" and "What's the point?" Pretty much every metal website and forums slates Metallica. So, who exactly is kissing their ass?

# Oct 26, 2011 @ 12:16 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. coldiem writes:

I'm not kissing anyone's ass. All I'm doing is pointing out the obvious which people always seem to have such a hard time with.

Besides, if people really didn't care, they wouldn't be getting so butthurt about a band they don't like still existing. Personally, I don't click on news related to things I don't care about.

# Oct 26, 2011 @ 1:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. liver rott writes:

i liked death magnetic! was it a great metal album? no! but it was a solid album that sounded much better than almost all other radio bands out there. talica is not young p***ed off teens anymore and its time to move on and stop expecting them to recreate what once was. i agree they can do much better and hopefully robert can get more pull. magnetic was much better than black for crying out loud. and st. anger sucked but it was quite thrashy in my opinion. i hope they drop this lou bs and put out another album as good as magnetic at least. and even if they dont i wont be wining about it because maching fvcking head is still around!

# Oct 26, 2011 @ 2:00 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. ZMA writes:

Maybe they're writing now right after Lulu because they know that no one really likes it so they're trying one last ditch effort to save themselves. I think if they just look because at how they used to be and what they are now they'd realized they fvcked up lol. Just my thoughts.
Either way as sad as I am about it I'll give them ONE more chance when whatever this is comes out. I think they need to bring back that old aggression, and I think bring in some influences from a more modern stand point.
Or they could literally do whatever the hell Testament did, because whatever it was it worked because The Formation Of Damnation was awesome heh heh.

# Oct 26, 2011 @ 2:58 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. Drum_Junkie writes:

ZMA: IMHO, one big reason that Testament has improved over the years, is they got rid of Louie Clemente long ago and got better drummers. Louie wasn't bad, but he played the basics. Hoglan, Tempesta, Dette, and Bostaph have served Testament very well over the years. Metallica would do good to take note. ;)

# Oct 26, 2011 @ 3:09 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. Uhhh.... writes:

Metallica did not invent thrash, Dave Mustaine did no matter what people say. They couldnt even play well beore he joined and wrote their good material.
Metallica's second album is the only one worth listening to...
Their first four albums can be touched...

# Oct 26, 2011 @ 3:44 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. Blindgreed1 writes:

I heard through the grapevine that the title of the album will be DuDu. If that's the case, I'll be a first day buyer :D

# Oct 26, 2011 @ 4:12 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. BrianMN writes:

@ #17….Honestly Dave, don’t you have better things to do than post here?
You didn’t invent thrash, it was a force of things….punk, Venom, Motorhead…etc…that brought thrash together as we know it.
Go away, your ego misses you.

# Oct 26, 2011 @ 4:19 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. ZMA writes:

^ Haha for the lols right there.

DJ, makes sense. Lars knows he'll fade away because the next drummer they get will blow his sticks out of his hands.

# Oct 26, 2011 @ 4:37 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. XxZxMETALHEADxZxX writes:

Alright, I'm not really blaming lulu for being not metal since clearly Kirk said it wasn't a one hundred percent metallica album. But i know for a fact that the next album will be on a level of Death Magnetic, maybe even one level higher.

# Oct 26, 2011 @ 5:27 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. Blindgreed1 writes:

^^^Was that a cmpliment? I couldn't tell.

# Oct 26, 2011 @ 6:07 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. Metal Messiah writes:

Well from what Rob said the new album sounds promising, can you imagine if lulu was the last metallica album? Keep Lou Reed out of the studio this time. I want death magnetic part 2.

# Oct 26, 2011 @ 6:48 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. Blindgreed1 writes:

Messiah? I'm not taking sides here but i'm pretty sure everyone made it perfectly clear that Lou Reed is NOT in Metallica. This has always been a one off artsy fartsy thing.

# Oct 26, 2011 @ 6:54 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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25. Cr4wf0rdTxJ1ng0J4ng0 writes:

I don't care what anybody says. I'll listen to everything Metallica releases until either I, or they, are dead. This Lou Reed crap, and it IS crap, is STILL Metallica, even though it sounds like a lazy Metallica cover band playing while a raving derelict rambles over it. I'm not a die hard Metallica fan, but I can listen to any of it because I like Metallica. Even St. Anger. Although I'm rarely in the mood for it, when I am, St. Anger hits the mark. Sometimes I love to hear loud sh**ty drums and nonsensical lyrics without getting up to put in a Mars Volta CD.

# Oct 26, 2011 @ 8:01 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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26. ZMA writes:

^ Then you are a superman in an ocean of Lex Luthors.

# Oct 26, 2011 @ 9:40 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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27. Netromancer writes:

As much as I like the guy, Robert can say whatever he wants about the new album. Let me hear something, then we'll talk.

#25 Believe me when I say, "No disrespect". To each his own, but I will never understand that mindset. However much I might have loved the band at one time, they, and I have moved on. They play good music they get my money. They play bad, not so much.

# Oct 26, 2011 @ 10:06 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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28. adace1 writes:

I don't know if Metallica can still write good music given that the riffs and drumming were pretty lousy on Lulu but at least the next album won't feature Lou Reed. That'll make it at least 5 times better than Lulu. If they do a record with Ozzy though, it'll make it 100 times better than Lulu.

# Oct 27, 2011 @ 2:27 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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29. not_the_previous_poster writes:

Good, I'm glad there'll be a new one. I'm also glad for the senseless flame war between that one Megadeth fan and the four Metallica fans. It's funny - I didn't consider Load and its sequel to be a sell-out - since they could have sold more records with another Black album - but that still doesn't mean I liked them. Load in particular I just can't stand. Who cares? Some people like it. Others are not forced to listen to it. Not even prisoners of war, they got the earlier ones forced upon them in what has got to be the worst idea in the long history of torture ideas. St. Anger is pretty bad. And yet, without being a crazed fanboy, I'd still take it over anything Megadeth has done post Countdown (f*** Youthanasia, yes) or anything Slayer has done post Seasons (not that Divine Intervention was terrible, but it was just another substandard album in the sea of such). It sounded fresh, unlike the aforementioned bands output. Death Magnetic. on the other hand, was nowhere near as bad as its predecessor, so I like it fairly well. Which brings us to Lulu. Well, Lulu isn't a Metallica record. Not even in the "not 100% Metallica" sense, it's not in the "100% not Metallica" sense. I've some respect for Lou Reed (Velvet Underground), but this was just awful - getting Metallica to play some throwaway songs while he...well, it's not even talk-singing, is it?...spurts vaguely poetic lyrics (not a compliment) over them. It's not just forgettable, it's freakin' annoying to suffer through the whole of it. Wishes for the new one: 1) shorter songs or more riffs per song 2) get a better producer or do it yourselves 3) write a song for Mustaine - it's only fair, he's been writing songs about you for so long now :)

# Oct 27, 2011 @ 3:08 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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30. curiosity killed the person who listened to new metallica material writes:

All nightmare long again aye....sh**,curiosity will get the better of me although iv'e everything post black hasn't been memorable for me.

# Oct 27, 2011 @ 3:59 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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31. psythe writes:

Heh, well this new album statement was a good way to get attention away from the Lulu album, which is bringing them nothing but bad press before even being released. Smart move. I'm going to go ahead and assume Metallica saved their real chops for this album rather than the Lulu one. Also a smart move. The only move that wasn't so smart here it seems is actually attempting to sell this Lulu bollocks and bothering to release it at all. Should've been buried and forgotten the first time they heard it.

# Oct 27, 2011 @ 5:51 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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32. WOLF7 writes:

psythe, lol my thoughts exactly!

Metallica press conference 2012: "would you guys like to talk about the 'Lulu' album?"

Metallica: "Next question please".

# Oct 27, 2011 @ 2:06 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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33. spiral_architect writes:

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY GIVES LULU A TERRIBLE REVIEW, AND A D GRADE. NUFF SAID!

# Oct 27, 2011 @ 3:36 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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34. ZMA writes:

^ Good.

# Oct 28, 2011 @ 12:40 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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35. Jackrum writes:

if metallica want commercial sucess they should listen to bullet for my vocalist and become an emo band. I hope they don't, Im hoping they just call it quits after some shockingly bad musical efforst and go their seperate ways. I also hope that Lars never ever plays drums again, because he sounds like he is trying to hump a drumkit not play one.
Metallica havent been what i would call a thrash band since 90-91. Megadeth and Slayer have overtaken them by miles and even Anthrax, a band i love but is often thought of as the weakest of the big 4, have released some strong albums compared to load, reload, etc... Metallica are getting by because of their past, and if st anger and lulu are anything to go by they dont have much of a future.
Sorry boys but your headbanger cards have been revoked, please leave your instruments at the door and go remember the good ol days of the 80's

# Oct 28, 2011 @ 2:53 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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36. gore676 writes:

plz kill this band b4 they ruin the world

# Oct 28, 2011 @ 2:54 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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37. albert croatia st writes:

if next album is not total old school thrash metal…metallica sould consider quiting music or start new
bend….that is a opinion ha!

# Oct 28, 2011 @ 9:12 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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38. BrianMN writes:

OUCH!!!
A scathing reviw on Chicago Tribune.com LOL.

# Oct 28, 2011 @ 9:25 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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39. brandedcfh420 writes:

kinda sounds as if they are trying to get fans back on their good side. right after LULU begins its downward spiral even before its out, they announce they are making new music. hopefully they are writing their obituaries on this album as well, because their career has died with LULU!!

# Oct 28, 2011 @ 9:45 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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40. WOLF7 writes:

^ not really, Branded. The fanbase Metallica now has took St. Anger alright, so they'll accept this one "cos it's the project with Lou Reed", not an actual Metallica album.

But, they're around to keep that money machine rolling.

To prove a point, let's have a look at Metallica's latest live DVDs as Metallica surely knows what their fans want (what sells):

"Français Pour Une Nuit" live DVD.
19 tracks and I count 4 post 1997 tracks. A bit weird for a live set released in 2009, no?

"Orgullo, Pasión, y Gloria: Tres Noches en la Ciudad de México",
released in 2009 as well has 4 post 1997 tracks.

The "Big 4 Live from Sofia, Bulgaria",
Metallica live DVD released last year has 3 post 1997 tracks.

SO, Metallica has gone the Rolling Stones path and focuses only on the Classics, releasing some kind of whatever that sounds kinda like Metallica every 4-5 years.

AND being a classic band is no excuse! When Pink Floyd released their final live album "Pulse", it had 24 tracks and 8 of the tracks were off their latest 2 albums, so there you go!

Anyway, I've said enough. I'm done with Metallica.

# Oct 28, 2011 @ 10:49 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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41. Drum_Junkie writes:

I think I have to thank the Lulu travesty for opening my eyes. Up until the Lulu propaganda machine began, I’ve held on to this blind hope that Metallica would recapture the magic of their glory years. St. Anger gave a glimmer of hope that they wanted to create something different than the Load of sh** they released is the 90’s. Death Magnetic even made it feel like another step was taken toward their thrash metal roots. However, with all the press lately, I dug in a little deeper and came to the realization that the Metallica glory years are long gone and will NEVER return.

With the First four albums, we saw a young hungry band growing. Ride the Lightning incorporated some thematic elements and song craft that Kill ‘em All lacked. Master of Puppets built on that and added another layer of power and unchecked aggression. And Justice for All expanded on the progressive metal element and took it as far as they could go. Between AJFA and the black album two key things changed.
1. They had received a taste of success. The “One” video undeniably exposed them to a larger market. Their Damaged Justice tour lasted longer than previous tours due to demand.
2. With the grunge movement on the horizon, Metallica were savvy enough to see the writing on the wall. IF they wrote another AFJA style, the market would not be there to support it. But Metallica had reached the mountaintop and they wanted to stay there.

Enter Satan to produce their 5th album. They removed the obtuse progressive element and wrote simpler songs with a hard edge but accessible verse chorus song structures and added lyrics people could identify with yet still feel rebellious about. Bobtallica had a formula that would prove financially successful. Retread that format two more times, with a publicity machine that forcefed it to the masses and they could comfortably rest on their laurels.

There’s the problem. They are comfortable. They don’t have the same hunger and passion they used to. They are now middle aged rockers. Sure they have their problems/issues and whatnot, but their financial security and social circle doesn’t reward them for getting mean and angry. Frankly, I don’t think they want to be ‘that’ band anymore. Also, with their age, I’m not sure they could pull it off physically – at least not Lars. When listening to St. Anger and Death Magnetic, the drums don’t have the inventiveness, nor the athleticism from their glory years. Gone is the double bass. The odd-time patterns are also absent. (think the 7/8 time on the AJFA title track). Out of all of them, Lars has the least fire left. The guitar work from DM has its moments, but the strong thrash riffs just aren’t there. The old Metallica is gone and never coming back folks.

Now should they up and quit as some have suggested? Whether they should or shouldn’t is a matter of opinion. If I was in their shoes, I’d still go on. Why would I turn my back on my success? Is it ruining a legacy? The damage is already done there, yet that damage is subjective. They’re marketing to a small metal and a larger non-metal audience. Guess which one pays the bills? They’re not going away. Metallica is going to milk the machine they’ve built until its dry, or they die - whichever comes first.

# Oct 28, 2011 @ 6:30 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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42. spiral_architect writes:

DITTO DRUM JUNKIE.

# Oct 28, 2011 @ 6:36 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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43. psythe writes:

Post 41 just schooled EVERYONE o.O

# Oct 28, 2011 @ 9:12 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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44. WOLF7 writes:

" The old Metallica is gone and never coming back folks."

Amen.

# Oct 28, 2011 @ 9:52 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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45. R10 writes:

Kudos Drum J! I enjoyed reading that. I agree,i long ago gave up thinking Metallica could ever return to the style of thier glory years,83-90. They've become a legacy act,no differant than the Rolling Stones or whoever. Theres nothing wrong with that,theres a demand for it. People want to go to thier shows,hear them perform Creeping Death or Battery,etc,relive how great that stuff was 25 years ago. The Metallica brands still got alot of clout,they still are a huge live draw!

# Oct 28, 2011 @ 10:13 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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46. hellrat writes:

Nice work friends...I agree with your insights and perceptions

Big R, I understand that it is all nice and fuzzy for the noob-boobs to go to the junkshow and feel like 'they were there', rocking out to shoddy renditions of the classics...yep, good for them ;)

As an Old Guardsman, like you, I find it IMPOSSIBLE to feel ANY inclination to pay these fvcks money to see them play a bunch of their rocker CRAP, peppered with jam type medley hack jobs of the glory tracks of old...and complete the shoody deal with a crowd of fvcking modern 'Sh!talli-goons'....nah, thanks

I've been tryin to tell y'all for a while now that these dudes are fvcking toast, but I guess the proof is in the fecal pudding eh?

# Oct 28, 2011 @ 10:57 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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47. Jackrum writes:

"yeay, And once more Iron Maiden step forth and are recognised as the greatest metal band on the planet"

# Oct 29, 2011 @ 5:56 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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48. Valentine_no_more writes:

uh Iron Maiden?

# Oct 29, 2011 @ 10:28 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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49. hellrat writes:

err, fvcking slipknot?

frikken Valentino... ;)

# Oct 30, 2011 @ 12:35 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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50. ZMA writes:

Drum_Junkie, there must be some sort of odd connection here because the words that came out of your head, onto your keyboard, is almost verbatim to what I was thinking but to lazy and fed up to write.
Because it's not like that'll actually take anyone's advice and ever try to expand on their sound. That's why this is the last chance I'm giving this band. Once I listen to this album it'll decide weather or not I stick around in the Metallica camp. I already got one foot out the door.
They honestly don't even have to go thrash or back to their old roots as some have said. I'd be happy just have something remotely heavy with some modern influences. That's how a lot of bands have survived and thrived. Judas Priest is a prime example of that.
But when I say modern influence it's not like I'm saying I want see a "metalcore" Metallica or anything of that nature. Metal has changed over the past 40 years and I believe it'd satisfy the masses to see them take some of the more modern influences of today and sort of mold that into a sound "similar" to their old sound. I say similar because as it was pointed out by DJ, those glory days are over.
Also I think if Lars just took a fvckin' lesson to get a little better it'd get a lot of people off their back. Because lemme put it to you this way:
Paul Mazurkiewicz (Cannibal Corpse) 43 years old
Neil Peart (Rush) 59 years old
Scott Travis (Judas Priest) 50 years old
Dave Lombardo (Slayer) 46 years old
Lars Ulrich (.........Metallica) 47 years old

# Oct 30, 2011 @ 1:30 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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51. ZMA writes:

Now look at that list of drummers. All of them are exceptional players who are up there in the years but still rip up the skins. So why is a guy like Paul and Dave better then Lars? Maybe because they actually give a sh!t? Who knows. They still seem to have the spark that makes their drumming fun to watch. And they always try to push their limits.
I mean god even Gene Hoglan is 44 and he's a drum machine. The man was probably invented deep underground by Nazi scientists decades ago as some super weapon but he escaped and found drums as a way to get out the super weapon part of him cause if he didn't drum the world as we know it would cease to exist. WAY OFF TOPIC..........
Anyway Lars and Dave and Paul and Gene are not that far off in age and yet everyone far surpasses Lars. So basically what I'm getting at is Metallica would be better without Lars. I bet it was a breathe of fresh air for them when Joey Jordinson and Lombardo filled in for Lars. They probably did stuff Lars could never do.
Everyone else in the band seems to still have it. Or at least better then Lars. The drums are a special instrument in a band and they need to be approached as such.
Keep in mind this is just one way to look at it. There could be a ton of different things that could make this band shine again. They just need to figure it out. I don't even know why I care this much. In the time Metallica's been trying to save themselves tons of better bands have sprung up in their place. I think I'll go listen to some of them.

# Oct 30, 2011 @ 1:40 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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52. R10 writes:

I can see your point HR. At this point,i got a feeling they know excactly who they're playing for and why. Its probably good for folks who didnt see that MOP tour in 86 to see them perform those classics. They're certainly doing nothing off the Loads or St Anger albums. So they at least know what their bread and butter is. Z: good stuff as usual,with your unique humor thrown in for good measure. You would have to dig around,but H.Stern interviewed Lars back in Sept. and he admitted he wasnt a good drummer. That he had to take lessons between the Kill Em All album and Ride The Lightning. Imagine that huh? Hard to believe.

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53. O-matron writes:

I think the best thing metallica could do, would be to aim small and do an EP or something. Maybe if they just put all their effort into 2 or 3 really good new songs maybe they could get some of their cred back. The always seem to try and reinvent the wheel with each new release. Why not just focus on a single song. As far as maiden being the best metal band of all time.....was there ever any doubt? All you CT folks out hang in there hopefully we will get power back soon.

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54. RememberMetal? writes:

I defended their potential until "Death Magnetic". I'll always be a fan of the "RTL", "MOP", "...AJFA" and even "Black". I grew up with this band playing in the background. I treated "Load" as a mistep of the era, "Reload" as 'the remainder of those sessions' and "St. Anger" as some sort collective band-brain hemorrhage but my support for them is at an end. "Lulu" doesn't even upset me as it should.

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55. ZMA writes:

Actually that's not hard to believe at all R10 lol. Lars still needs lessons. I'm just glad to see that Lulu got ZERO SKULLS!! in the new review posted up on MU.

# Nov 1, 2011 @ 2:21 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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56. R10 writes:

About as brutally honest a review ive read Z. I actually knew after the half a song and snips of two others,its something my ears couldnt tolerate. The thing is getting scorched and ripped to shreds by all reviewers. Feel bad for the people who spent an hour and twenty minutes of thier life listening to it.

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57. ZMA writes:

I feel better for all the pre-orders haha. They spent their hard earned money for that atrocity. I so happy I didn't waste my time and money on this album. If I was Metallica I wouldn't give a sh!t what the label did I'd walk into the factory and destroy all those albums with my bare hands. I think the label released this album for the lawls.

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58. ZMA writes:

I feel bad for the pre-orders not better.....my bad.

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59. i agree writes:

with the only album on MU ever to get a 0/5 skulls.... "Lulu" could not be any more deserving than this honor. I will of course not be purchasing this pile of steaming horse sh**

# Nov 1, 2011 @ 5:11 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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60. psythe writes:

^Deathbringer in disguise. :P

# Nov 1, 2011 @ 5:39 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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61. R10 writes:

What im wondering,is damage control,how to come back from this obvious atrocity. Metallicas mgt. team has its work cut out for themselves. You can pass it off as a side project all you want,but the brand names still on it. In my opinion,to get taken seriously,Metallica would have to record and release a masterpiece that falls between MOP and AJFA. Seriously cant see it happening. This Lulu project is what "artistic freedom" gets you. Wonder what Rolling Stone magazine rated this nightmare? Probably 5 stars out of 5. Fvcking truly sad and pathetic.

# Nov 1, 2011 @ 6:07 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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62. Drum_Junkie writes:

If you really want to know what a RS reviewer thought.

go to rolling stone.com
/music/albumreviews/lulu-20111101

3 out of 5 stars. Pretty bland review, light on substance, much like the album.

# Nov 1, 2011 @ 6:16 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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63. R10 writes:

Rolling Stone? Good fire starter for the wood stove!!! Im thinking even the faggy,birkinstock sandle wearing,artsy-fartsy fvck would reject this crap!

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64. Caveman1 writes:

Death Magnetic was amazing, weird that theyd follow up an amazing album with lulu.

St. Anger was ok, Load/Reload some ok songs, everything before load (yes all 5) was epic

# Nov 1, 2011 @ 6:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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65. ZMA writes:

If they actually had artistic freedom they would not have released Lulu. They're almost like slaves that way, because Warner Bro. will release sh!t even if the artist isn't satisfied. I think that's been said already but it's the truth. You'd think Metallica would be on their own label with all the money they've made. But nope still locked into Warner Bro.

I just found this and can't understand why this is in existence.

http://www.montrealgazette.com/entertainment/Music+reviews+Reed+Metallica+Justin+Bieber+Brian+Wilson+Florence/5634621/story.html

Apparently someone over at this gazette gave Lulu a 5/5. I was stomped.

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66. Spirit In Black writes:

Metallica have for a long time NOT been a metal band. All the brutality and angst has left them.

Metallica is now a 'hard rock' band, and they're just making commercially successful hard rock music that is not too offensive for radio.

The days of Puppets, Ride The Lightning are well and truly gone now and Metallica would not know how to relive those days. $$$ has sucked the drive and desire to really make Hard/Heavy music again.

And really...how can you be angry when your bank accounts are bursting at the seams?

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67. psythe writes:

Post 62 - Rolling Stone's review called Metallica 'prog-metal maximists'.


I'm sorry, what? I've listened to all of Metallica's released records, and not one of them even hinted at progressive metal. Didn't Rolling Stone used to be relevent? Didn't they used to have a clue?? What the hell happened to those guys???

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68. Jackrum writes:

I love the fact that even tabloid newspapers in the UK are giving this atrocity poor reviews..

i honestly dont think i have seen it get higher than 2 out of 5 in these

# Nov 2, 2011 @ 3:43 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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69. slade900 writes:

its always the same hate for Metallica just admit it haters you would kill to be in any of there shoes

# Nov 2, 2011 @ 7:35 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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70. Netromancer writes:

No hate here. Just a lingering hope that they might actually put out good music again. As for Lulu, good to see magazines and critics are calling it what it is. Maybe this is their wakeup call. Put up or shut up.

# Nov 2, 2011 @ 7:41 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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71. brandedcfh420 writes:

@ slade: there = their....before talking sh** make sure your post is correctly typed so you dont look like an absolute illiterate retard trying to sound intelligent!!!

# Nov 2, 2011 @ 9:01 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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72. Metallica is writes:

the bestest band in the world! You are all just jealous because "Lulu" makes Ride the Lightning look like a demo. Also, Lars Ulrich invented metal, so he can do whatever he wants to

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73. brandedcfh420 writes:

#72 is definitely a retarded troll kid who doesnt know a damn thing about metal!!!

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74. albert croatia writes:

lulu is just quick sellout cash in.

# Nov 2, 2011 @ 10:44 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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75. R10 writes:

Albert,i find it hard to believe its gonna sell. In fact by Christmas,they will be giving them away. Make a good coaster for my coffee and beers.

# Nov 2, 2011 @ 10:50 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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76. brandedcfh420 writes:

also, 72 doesnt know about ip logged either!!! haahahahah, post 59 and 72....

# Nov 2, 2011 @ 11:16 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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77. Caveman1 writes:

lol

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78. ZMA writes:

R10, It'll be like the scene in the Dark Knight where Heath Ledger burns that giant pile of money, only it'll be a giant pile of Lulu's lol.

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79. Overlord writes:

Who know's, Lulu could have been a slap in the face and this album could be their return to glory.

...but probably not, cause Lars is such a fa**ot.

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80. Cr4wf0rdTxJ1ng0J4ng0 writes:

Hahaha "Lulu makes RTL look like a demo" I think RTL's production is what makes it sound like a demo. Sounds like it was recorded in a rich kid's garage. But that doesn't mean it isn't a masterpiece (it is), and for once, I agree with reviews on this one. I notice a lot of people hate any new Metallica because they feel like their poor widdle expectations have been crushed, and they somehow blame that on the album, but I agree that this album is just tepid. When a band like Metallica get as old as they are, they like to get gimmicky, and start doing weird sh**, because talent can ojnly carry you so far, especially once it's gone, and you have to rely on being odd and eccentric, and hopefully you can sail on into cult stardom for the rest of your days, and I think Metallica is doing just more of that. Like S&M before it, it isn't anything that I JUDGE Metallica on, necessarily, but I will give Metallica all the space they need. As a fan, I owe them that, and not to let my own selfish bullsh** wants get in the way. They can do a split with Rancid and Dillinger Escape Plan for all I care. Might be the best thing they ever do. Hell, send em into the studio with Tom Waits. Who cares anymore. Either listen to it or don't. I hate how everyone says "I LOVE old metallica but I'm still a fan" NO YOU'RE NOT. You are NOT a diehard Metallica fan, because you'd be listening more and b****ing less, appreciating any step your favorite band would take, but all I ever see is people b****ing about what THEy want Metallica to sound like now. Like, just because you ERALLY REALLY like Master Of Puppets, they can go back into the studio and make another one. They already gave you ONE and you don't f***ing appreciate it, why would they even TRY to get close to that again? YOU ARE A FAN OF OLD METALLICA. Plain and simple.

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81. brandedcfh420 writes:

""but all I ever see is people b****ing about what THEy want Metallica to sound like now""

what "WE" want metallica to sound like now is the sound of silence!!!!! ahahahahahha......

# Nov 3, 2011 @ 9:35 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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82. albert croatia st writes:

lulu cd will be free cd that goes with washing machine
powder like ariel….ha ha !

# Nov 3, 2011 @ 10:21 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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83. WOLF7 writes:

Agreed with Cr4wf0rd, post80. RTL is a true masterpiece.

I think it's really a stunning album, considering they were all only around 20, 21 when they wrote it.

That album's got it all, from Fight Fire with Fire agression to Ktulu. I'm amazed at Ktulu. Many bands these days simply don't have the capability to write something like that.

Fast forward to 2011 and it's Lulu.

Going from Kill' em All and Ride the lightning to Lulu, You just have to ask:

What the f*** happened?

# Nov 3, 2011 @ 10:32 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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84. ZMA writes:

Cr4wf0rd, the problem I have with the sh!t you said is that, bands like Megadeth, Slayer, Exodus, Testament, Destruction, and even Anthrax have far surpassed this band in terms of talent and stability. I don't care how much money Metallica made compared to the other bands because I'm pretty sure they've made more then all them combined but that still doesn't change the fact that all the bands I just named come up at around the same time and Metallica is the only band falling behind.
Even Anthrax came back with a triumphant return and they had way more sh!t goin' on with them then Metallica did. Look at the massive lineup changes they've gone through over the years and they're still goin' strong now.
I admit I'm not a die hard Metallica fan. I only like up to the black album, that's when they started pumping out sh** album after sh** album. That's also when Pantera showed up and stole the metal spotlight in the 90's as Metallica slowly decayed, cause if you think about it, Pantera was one of "the" 90's metal bands. Yes I know they started in the 80's but they didn't hit it big till the 90's. Anyway, off topic.
I understand they can do whatever the fvck they want but if I was in a really famous band and I found out I lost a big part of my fan base because I continuously put out bad albums, I'd start to wonder if maybe I'm going in the wrong direction, because I sh!t you not every single time I hear about Metallica it's always the same discussion until a guy like Cr4wf0rd comes in and says we should basically just stop. And yea I agree that we should just stop cause obviously Metallica is never going to take their fans advice and bring that energy back. Even if the album isn't thrash they don't have the energy they had. They're old and I believe they've just kept going for all the wrong reasons. They've become their own tribute band in my opinion.
I mean look at the track listing for the big four dvd. They only do like 3 songs that aren't on their first 5 albums. Because they know. They just fvckin' know and they won't do anything about it. It's almost depressing how big of a deal this can be to people. Even me. It's retarded that I'm taking time out of my life to talk about a band they'll never satisfy me musically anymore. It's a shame really........ I am very grateful for their first 5 albums and I'll always appreciate what they did for metal. But not anymore.
NP: Pantera - I'm Broken

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85. ZMA writes:

Also not trying to start any arguments. Just putting my input on the subject. I could keep going too and that saddens me. So many reasons why this band has lost it........

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86. Cr4wf0rdTxJ1ng0J4ng0 writes:

^^ I can agree with most of that, but I don't think they are just incapable of having the same energy they used to have, I just think it's gone, and Megadeth Slayer and Anthrax are still going strong, yeah, but metallica's level of fame has given them these delusions of grandeur that the other 3 don't have. Mustaine may be c***y and arrogant, but at least he isn't delusional. And I think that's why I respect those bands more than I respect metallica. They are where they are because they stuck to their story all these years. Despite constant member changes, megadeth still continue to impress me, but metallica is like that goofy homeless guy that you keep looking at just to see what crazy sh** he's going to try to get away with next. I don't care what metallica does anymore. I'll always check it out at least once, but I won't necessarily like it. I always like new megadeth.

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87. Jackrum writes:

Megadeths last 3 albums have been very strong. Just think what tallica could have been doing in the 90's if Mustaine hadnt been booted.

# Nov 5, 2011 @ 7:23 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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88. Person of Interest writes:

Well, one thing's for sure: we'll know how the new album sounds when they get done recording it in 2022. bada bing!

# Nov 5, 2011 @ 10:53 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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89. ZMA writes:

Cr4wf0rd, yea I totally get what you're gettin' at. It just sucks that they destroyed themselves. I just so glad I have bands like Megadeth and Testament so I never have to worry about this band ever again.

I almost hope 2012 is really the end of the world so I don't have to hear about this next album cause we'll all be dead. But nah I don't actually cause then I'd miss a bunch of awesome "not Metallica" albums. That'd be a bummer.

# Nov 6, 2011 @ 1:05 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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90. slade900 writes:

@brandedcfh420 why do you care how i spell on a site there is no need to spell and double check every word and you post on every Metallica post say the same sh** its getting old we get it you hate them

# Nov 6, 2011 @ 4:13 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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91. brandedcfh420 writes:

@ slade: boo hoo, i'll keep hating on them and telling people to correct their spellings if they want to talk smack at otherS about their freedom of speech on an open forum. NOW GO CRY TO YOUR MOMMY....

# Nov 6, 2011 @ 7:36 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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92. tx metal writes:

just hang it up already.they also shouldnt have been rock and roll hall of fame.bands like Motorhead deserve the recognition

# Nov 6, 2011 @ 12:03 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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93. Lars Ulrich writes:

Branded: i have so much money that I can hire you as my pillowfluffer. You interested?

# Nov 7, 2011 @ 7:06 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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94. brandedcfh420 writes:

ahahaahhahahaha, no thank you. im trying to get a job at a local smoke shop called Infinity's End. Much better working environment!!!

# Nov 7, 2011 @ 7:44 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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95. a b croatia writes:

i think this is enough publicity for metallica so
there is no point commenting...but you can!

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