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APE Clarifies Their Name and Stance on A.P.E.'s Use of the Name

Toronto hard rock/metal band APE has posted a statement about another Toronto band, A Primitive Evolution, using the acronym "A.P.E." Here's the statement and warning to fans:

"We think it is necessary to clear something up. APE and A.P.E. are in fact two different bands. Understandably this is very confusing. Two rock bands from Toronto with the same name. To add to the confusion, our name is derived from an acronym as well, however now we now simply go by APE. We assure everyone that this confusion is entirely not our fault. Another band called A Primitive Evolution is playing under the name A.P.E. A few months ago we contacted the band A Primitive Evolution to let them know that APE is already taken and suggested that they go by their full name since their acronym is our band name. But our emails have been ignored. We think there is a simple solution to this. They should go by their full name A Primitive Evolution and we should continue with our name APE that we have been playing under since 2001. After all, if you are an original band don’t you want to have your own identity? We don’t believe A Primitive Evolution purposely stole our name, we think it was an accident. We even think the skull in their logo that we also use in our logo is just a coincidence. It seems that the problem now is that they are in too deep to change or start over. A Primitive Evolution just did and album that is called A.P.E. (our debut album is also called APE released in 2007) and they probably have our name all over their merchandise as well. So rather than update their name to one that is original, it seems as if their plan is to ignore us and hope we go away without making a stink. Not going to happen. Regardless of which band you are a fan of we want all of you to know that we had the name first and that putting periods between each letter of our band name doesn’t make it original. Anyone who sees their posters can see that A.P.E. is always in big letters and you have to squint to see that it actually stands for something. We felt the need to post this after receiving countless emails and phone calls of disappointed APE fans paying a cover charge to see the wrong band. We wouldn’t have posted this unless we believed we are 100 percent in the right. To all you independent bands out there, protect what is yours."

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19 Comments on "APE Clarifies Their Name and Stance on A.P.E."

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1. Miguel writes:

Who cares?

# Jan 4, 2010 @ 7:29 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. Galen writes:

Any artist who takes their work and life's ambition seriously should care. We've put in too much work for too many years to let some punks come out of nowhere and sabotage our reputation while cannibalizing the local independent music scene. That's why we're threatening legal action and setting the record straight to the public. Protecting what’s ours hardly seems unnecessary to me.

# Jan 6, 2010 @ 4:04 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. Keegan D.F.A.D. writes:

Honestly,
I think the two bands play
completely different genres
...terribly
But I do believe that a band should
never assimilate anothers name.
Whether made in error or not,
the name should be dropped
Additionally another thought here,
are Carruthers and Matthew
Von Wagner so ignorant that
the don't check for possible name
issues on google or something?
My sh**ty band made sure to figure
that sh** out!

# Jan 6, 2010 @ 6:47 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. Brett writes:

I don't think we're some punks coming out of nowhere... and by no means are we cannibalizing the local music scene.

We'll be talking soon, I didn't realize you had sent so many messages, or that this was upsetting you guys so much.

There are a lot of bands out there that are called APE and or use A.P.E. as an acronym. I realize this is a more immediate problem since we are both from Toronto, but I imagine you guys are going to run into a lot of other people using APE as a name across the board.

Anyhow, like I said we'll be in touch once I talk to everyone else involved in the project and we'll resolve this junk.

Also, we're not trying to sabotage your reputation, or ruin your career, we've all put our time in to the music scene. This has nothing to do with any of that.

# Jan 6, 2010 @ 10:24 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. Blindgreed1 writes:

Brett: You'd probably do better to reply to one of the emails they sent to you instead of posting a comment on the mighty MU. Clearly you fellows aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer and by using the same skull in your logo as APE, i'd have to say that you and your mates have shown bad form and a general lack of origionality. Just one musicians opinion.

# Jan 7, 2010 @ 10:24 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. Diamond Oz writes:

Ape... good band name... think I'll use that.

# Jan 7, 2010 @ 10:36 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. Hammerheart writes:

lmao Oz. I think I will too.

# Jan 7, 2010 @ 11:21 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. Brett writes:

Ha ha ha, oz and hammer are funny.

It's hard with band names, I've been in a lot bands and always had name problems.

We honestly didn't realize the band Ape existed when we created A Primitive Evolution.

And the logo isn't ripped either, you know how many rock and metal bands have skulls in their logo???
It's probably one of the most popular icons associated with the genre, or the culture or whatever.

Anyway, they have been emailed. I just thought it would be fun to be a part of the MU community for once.

Bye!

# Jan 7, 2010 @ 8:39 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. utoad9 writes:

Cool to see problems solved right here on MU. Now if Mustaine and Jeff Young are watching.....

# Jan 8, 2010 @ 12:07 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. Hollow writes:

This is why you shouldn't name your band something simple. Put some effort into it.

# Jan 8, 2010 @ 1:22 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. Natsquatch writes:

^Amen to that. Go with something like "discombobulated corpse termination urbanization governmentalibation explosive montazuma's blasting power revenge"...

Just throwing that out there.

# Jan 8, 2010 @ 2:21 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. Hammerheart writes:

^ lmao. Kudos to anyone in the WORLD who can remember that band name. I can imagine it..

"Hey, I just heard this band, you should check them out!"
"Oh yeah, who are they?"
"You might want a pen and 3 sheets of paper for this.."

# Jan 8, 2010 @ 2:34 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. Diamond Oz writes:

What if I call my new band (gr)Ape? That should be cool right?

# Jan 8, 2010 @ 4:53 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. Blindgreed1 writes:

Nat: Thanks... That was the name of my next project. Back to the drawing board.

# Jan 8, 2010 @ 10:09 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. RTB writes:

Brett make sure that check for the MU is in the mail...good luck
What happend to that johnny casino and the gamblers project greed

# Jan 8, 2010 @ 11:22 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. RTB writes:

Greed you gotta show tonite at the rock?
Fahq man, just saw that,....crap, will have to monitor your page more frequently, got to get to a show this year..its a must, have a good show man

# Jan 8, 2010 @ 11:46 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. Brett writes:

I'm officially a member of the MU now.
There's something positive that came out of this!

RTB... uhm does a money order work for you? I don't have checks... ha ha ha.

# Jan 8, 2010 @ 2:48 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. Blindgreed1 writes:

RTB: Yep, we're going to burn that fvcker down tonight. We actually got some pretty talented support acts lined up for this one too, so we're looking forward to it. Let me know if you ever want to see us. You're money is no good if you can make it. \m/\m/!!!

Whoore: Get off my jock ya little pickle sniffer.

# Jan 8, 2010 @ 3:21 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. RTB writes:

Bg gotcha, but the bar tab for the band is on me....my work schedule im off sun/mon so i d would have to request off to drive out there next time which i wont mind doing at all, but fahq ya im down, i ll keep checking your band page, iwas planning a AZ trip anyways....again have a good show bro..
Brett lol....to quote bg " welcome to the might MU, and again good luck to you and your band, look forward to your posts here as well...cheers guys

# Jan 8, 2010 @ 6:07 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address

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