Slipknot Angry Over Battle With The Game for #1
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Rolling Stone reports:
Slipknot, the Iowa-based nine-piece masked metal band entering its tenth year on the national stage, has just been announced as one of the headliners of Columbus, Ohio’s Rock on the Range Festival. The third annual fest — which also features Motley Crue, Alice in Chains and Korn — goes down May 17th and 18th. But right now, Slipknot are in the midst of their biggest American tour to date, including a massive gig at New York’s Madison Square Garden. The arena tour — with Coheed and Cambria and Trivium in tow — comes on the heels of last year’s "All Hope is Gone," the band’s first Number One album, a victory that almost didn’t happen.
Initial reports from SoundScan put rapper the Game’s "LAX" in the top spot by a margin of 13 albums, but after a recount the positions were reversed, with Slipknot taking it by over 1,100 units. And it’s a near-slight that still drives the band nuts, even six months later.
"Any time we get something, it’s almost like we had to steal the fucking thing," frontman Corey Taylor tells Rolling Stone. "We had to fight for that, in true Slipknot fashion. They didn’t want to just fucking respect us and wait until all the fucking numbers were in. They were like, 'No, you didn't have it — you got beat by 13 CDs.' We've come so fucking close so many goddamn times, and this was our time."
Percussionist and band mastermind Shawn "Clown" Crahan is still plenty hacked off that the band he created came so close to having its moment in the sun taken away. "This is no disrespect to the Game, we don't know him, and it could have been anyone, but they're upset that they lost?" he said. "You want to talk about upset, you want to talk about disrespect for sacrifice? Everyone has tried to keep our ideas, our dreams, our art, down, and there was no reason for that, because our art is love, too."
For Taylor, taking the top spot is the ultimate middle finger to an industry he feels holds his band in disdain, and the victory and continued success is only made sweeter by the odds his band has overcome.
"I truly believe that every time we win, it just makes so many people angry," he said. "Right out of the gate, we should not have been successful. We were a nine-piece metal band from Iowa wearing masks and doing this insane shit, but we were talented and we were lucky, and we went out and built this following. For us, this is a legacy."
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4. writes:
after seeing the video of corey in the q101 studio playing songs off his ipod (which include micheal jackson, justin timberlake), i trully dont think the members of slipknot should be mad about a number. they should be p***ed off that their singer listens to that sh1t!!!!!
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Ok guys, seriously. The only people who actually bought their album were complete idiot adolescents who think that it's hardcore and that THEY'RE hardcore if they listen to it. I hate rap, I'm a die DIE hard metal fan, and I'd listen to The Game over Slipknot any day.
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Post 4 I feel ya on that.
You need to understand that all recording artists needs to subjectivity themselves to a wide range of genera for music understanding. Yest JT is a f***ing homo who can gargle on my balls, but I highly doubt Corey Taylor listens to and respects JT as a musician. JT sells records. SLipknot wants to understand how this is done so they look to homos who are gettin' it and incorporate elements (not necessarily musical elements) into the writing and production.
Especially since corey taylor is fronting an alternative band....
LOL RICK ROLLED
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"band mastermind Shawn "Clown" Crahan"
He hits a keg with a baseball bat. I'm sure he didn't one day trip over a keg and think "Hey! There could be a future in this! I'm gonna get a load of people to join me on this!"
I thought Paul Gray founded the band anyway? Which would make more sense because he plays a real instrument. Whatever.
P.S. I like Slipknot by the way, but these boys need to sort their attitude's out. In particular Clown and Chris Fehn.
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"Ok guys, seriously. The only people who actually bought their album were complete idiot adolescents who think that it's hardcore and that THEY'RE hardcore if they listen to it. I hate rap, I'm a die DIE hard metal fan, and I'd listen to The Game over Slipknot any day.
Listening to: Who Decides-Nevermore"
Agree with everything said here. Esp. the NP.
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At least the game belongs to a music genre that is unabashedly based around making it to the bigtime, or beating everyone else to the top. Slipknot is supposed to be metal, but I guess MTV is their new best friend.
"All the money in the world can't buy me!"
^in retrospect, I laugh evertime I hear Corey say that line now. Reflective Irony at it's best.
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hahahha their new album sucked. but what doesn't suck on the radio and mtv nowadays? it seems that the simplist, quickest-to-write songs become the best music on the radio.
and yes, post 4 nailed it, slipknot is for little kids who think listening to guys wearing "hardcore" masks and screaming/double-kick, ignorantly thinking this is real metal lol
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Oh wow...Corey loves to cuss, dont he? =]....I agree, Metal is about being yourself, and letting others know whats up..in my opinion...its not about making the most money or making it to the top...otherwise sh** would go downhill faster then ever....and I also agree that Slipknot is for lil kids who try to be hardcore...makes me laugh....
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I used to like Slipknot now... it's a joke. Would the real metal bands please stand up. NO, I said real metal bands SIT DOWN SLIPKNOT! Let's see 4 of the band members don't do really anything in the band. This band is regressing FAST!
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"You need to understand that all recording artists needs to subjectivity themselves to a wide range of genera for music understanding. Yest JT is a f***ing homo who can gargle on my balls, but I highly doubt Corey Taylor listens to and respects JT as a musician. JT sells records. SLipknot wants to understand how this is done so they look to homos who are gettin' it and incorporate elements (not necessarily musical elements) into the writing and production."
Dude, I'm sorry, there's more to music than metal. You need to appreciate that. Justin Timberlake is a POP ARTIST. And he's damn good at what he does. Is it progressive? No. Is it heavy? No. But it's got all the aesthetics of pop music in a good package, delivered by a good voice.
I'll tell you one thing...Corey's not listening to this to learn how to sell records. Cause there's no Justin Timberlake dance pop stuff on here is there? No pop chord progressions? Exactly. Maybe he's listening to it because he's no close minded and he just likes good music. That could be one reason.
I'm not even a hardcore Slipknot fan. That comment was just so ignorant I had to say something.
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I wouldn't exactly call not liking Justin Timberlake "close-minded". I listen to a wide range of music with alot of different styles but I'm not buying any pop album no matter how many people like it. Popularity doesn't always mean good. This is a metal forum, right? We aren't here to find what everyone is listening to. Disliking a style of music does not make one unappreciative of music in general. We should stay clear on that. I listen to pretty much anything excluding pop, rap or what passes for R&B these days. Basically whaever doesn't make it on the radio or MTV. There is alot of music out there. I'm sure Justin will do fine without my money.
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You're right dude. I'm not expecting him to like it, I'm expecting him to say he gargles balls. He basically implied in his post that there's no redeeming qualities to his music whatsoever.
I know it's a metal forum, believe me. I love metal like all you guys. I'm just saying.
Popularity is often linked with being bad actually. But he just happens to be decent overall.
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I hate radio and MTV!! Valiant Thorr aren't on MTV so I listen to them. I saw As Blood Runs Black on MTV2 the other night and I deleted them from my ipod! The whatevers not on MTV or radio comments are always retarded. Because its getting exposure doesn't make it bad.
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I don't think you took my statement in the right context. Obviously it's difficult to elaborate, I was just making a comment.
I am willing to put up every asset of mine on the fact Corey Taylor DOES NOT listen to JT. It was on his iPod, but there is no f***ing way in hell he cranks that in his car stereo. If he does, I can completely disregard anything he has ever stated. Is he a totally different person with his mask off?? I watched him cut up David Silviera(sp?) because he had a photo taken of him in some Calvin Klein jeans. That sort of thing is the EPITOME of justin timberlake and all POP for that matter.
now, in my opinion, Slipknot is POPMETAL. Yes, I just created my own sub genera. I can't tell you SKs writing process but there are legitimate methods of making catchy music. One great way is to listen to sh** that has proven successful and popular and infuse these ideas into a heavy metal sound.
"Cause there's no Justin Timberlake dance pop stuff on here is there? No pop chord progressions? Exactly."
Not directly, but the hooks and rifs and etc subconsciously "catch" the listeners attention and have a structure that is proven to pay out.
I'm not kidding about this, there is a software used by producers that is computer generated "acceptance". I heard about it on the History of New Music. I can't remeber the details, but essentially you play the song to this software and it will tell you if its going to be popular amongst listeners. Slipknot uses it....U2 uses it.... Backstreet Boys RELY on it!
I was being blunt about the ball-gargling comment. I respect JT these days as a business man, performer, etc. But seriously....NSYNC?
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^with the exception of the clean singing/screaming songs on the album, I thought some of the music stood up pretty well in terms of musical progression on slipknots part. "Germatria" and "All hope is Gone" specifically made me think Slipknot actually listened to death metal once in a while. Overall though, I didnt like the album too much.
the game...like Cynic said, is one of the few decent rappers getting noticed. My only problem is, I have yet to hear a song that he doesnt mention NWA, Dre, or Compton. It's cool to wave the old guards flag, but when it's done in EVERY song, it gets repetitive and at times, annoying. Other than that, He's the "ReEEL NIGGUH"'s alternative to the crapfest that is Little Wayne.
I'll post my opinion on Justin timberlake later. Right now it's impossible to stop hating him long enough to sensibly illustrate my hatred for him.
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Havnt heard The Game. Cannot stand NWA, I'm sorry. Worst rap group ever. Ice Cube is f***ing awful. Wu-Tang, on the other hand, is more my kinda stuff. Redman and Method Man are top of the line, man. Who is Little Wayne??
Justi-BLEUGH! sorry, can't even say that guys name without vomiting.
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While I'm not a fan of either The Game or Slipknot it shouldn't come as a surprise that a rap artist outsells a metal artist.
I do get tired of bands whining when they lose some stupid "award". This doesn't mean sh** when compared to the legions of fans you have accrued. When that is no longer enough, you need to ask yourself what you are doing it for.
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All of the members of Slipknot need to stop b****ing about stuff like this. Whether you like them or not they are a metall band in the top 10 and they should be happy with that. Nobody will remember next month whether or not Slipknot was at number 1 for one week or two and nobody cares. There are too many metal acts driving vans from show to show to make enough money to eat and get to the next show and I think Slipknot has forgotten that. I just read an article the other day that Cannibal Corpse sold 9,000 discs and were stoked, somebody needs to send that email to millionaire Corey Taylor.
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Okay Seriously!
Everyone just shut the f*** up! I know I'm definately not the one to lay this out. But I'm going to the best I can.
SLIPKNOT's "All Hope Is Gone" is a great album. I personally don't find it their best at all. But it's Still a SLIPKNOT album. It's still a METAL Album. And ANYTHING METAL IS BETTER THAN ANY KINDA RAP. PERIOD.
Rap Isn't Even Real f***ing Music. It's Just Guys That Push A Button On A Music Box And Rap To It!
They Don't Even Write Their Own Music. It's sick and PATHETIC.
But I'm Not Gonna Be A Hypocrite and say I Hate Rap or Hip-Hop. Cuz there's some rap and hip-hop that I like. But it's not undeserving bullsh** like the game. That's gangster garbage.
And what kind of a Metal Forum is this if people are just gonna downtalk Metal bands?! And especially Great Metal Bands like SLIPKNOT! I Mean, What The f*** Is The Point?
I Know A Lot Of You Don't Like SLIPKNOT's "All Hope Is Gone". But that doesn't change the fact that they're still SLIPKNOT. The same guy that gave you "Slipknot", "Iowa" and "Vol. 3 (The Subliminal Verses)". They're still the same band that has released some of the greatest Metal songs of all time. You Can't Change That.
An Just Cuz They Get Radio Play Or MTV Coverage Doesn't Mean They're Sellouts Either.
And It Doesn't Mean They Suck. Same For All Metal Bands.
Just Cuz They Get On MTV or The Radio Doesn't Change Their Great Metal And The Fact That Tey're All Damn Good At It. Like with As Blood Runs Black. I've SeenThem On MTV2 Quite A Few Times Before. Same with Whitechapel, Job For A Cowboy, King Diamond, and Pig Destroyer, etc.
But they're all still great and amazing Metal bands just like SLIPKNOT.
And stuff like that is on the radio and mtv cuz it's popular, true. But it's Popular because IT'S GOOD!!! If it all sucked, it would NEVER get the coverage and attention it does. And NO, SLIPKNOT's Masks Are Not An Attention Gimmick. It's Just Part Of Their Physical Image and A Representation Of What They Feel They Look Like Inside. That's The End Of That.
And Just Cuz It's Not The Genre Of Metal You Like Or Prefer, That Doesn't Mean It's Not Metal Or NOt Good. Just cuz it's not Death Metal, Or Power Metal, or Progressive Metal, Doesn't mean it's bad metal or music. It's simply Nu Metal. And No Type Of Metal Is superior to the other.
I listen to all Genres of Metal. From Nu Metal (SLIPKNOT) to Power Metal (DragonForce) to Death Metal (Cannibal Corpse) to Hair Metal (Van Halen). Metal is Metal. PERIOD.
Just cuz you don't like Nu Metal, Does't mean SLIPKNOT sucks. Because they don't!
Like it or not, you have to admit that SLIPKNOT is one of the biggest, GREATEST, most influencial Metal bands EVER. And that cannot be changed.
And I'm not just saying all this cuz I'm a Maggot through and through and SLIPKNOT is my favorite band. I'm saying this to clear up alot of the bullsh** I see going on here.
And like I said, I know I'm not the one to clear it up cuz I don't believe I have such authority.
And I know that sounds EXTREMELY hypociritical at this point but whatever.
And I know that I'm gonna probably catch A LOTTA sh** for this but..
"I Gotta Say What I Gotta Say And Then I Swear I'll Go Away, But I Can't Promise You'll Enjoy The Noise"
That's all I have to say about that guys and chicks.
Please.. Stay True To Metal. It's The Greatest Thing We Have.
Love it. Cherish it. It's REAL Music. We Don't Have Much Of That Left.
"We Have To Save Ourselves"
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I hope the Game shoots the whole band in retaliation, i kid kid. I still cant believe this band is so popular. Even tho not metal, its very rare when a Heavy band debuts #1. I remember when Pantera did and that was completely a suprise. I guess its better then Limb Bizkit or Linkin Park coming in at #1. If you think about it Slipknot is like a heavier Rap Rock NU metal LIMP BIZKIT. ahahah i made my self laugh. I know im gonna get flamed for that one.
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post #37, you are correct. Slipknot may not be tastefully appointed as any METALHEAD's favorite artist, but no one can deny they are the heaviest "top selling" recording artists. Let me know if I'm wrong, but even LEGENDS like Slayer weren't Billboard top-10 sellers?
Am I incorrect to say that Slipknot is THEE heaviest recording artists to even go top-3 Billboard releases??? If anything you "METAL HEADZ" should be prasing and THANKING slipknot for introducing metal to the mainstream media hahahahahaha.
Let's be honest...every metal head has a little piece of them wishing MTV would spin metal 23.5 hours a day and rap/pop for a 30-min block at 4am hahahah unlike how it is now word to headbangers ball
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The band's image has started controversy over the years. A portion of the controversy comes from the band Mushroomhead, who, along with their fans, claim that Slipknot stole their image. In 2005, another source of controversy was the band's lawsuit against Burger King, claiming that company created the advertising based band Coq Roq to capitalize on Slipknot's image.The band's lawyer claimed that Burger King had contacted the band's label to get Slipknot to take part in an "advertising campaign designed to motivate young people to vote". Burger King responded to the suit with a countersuit, and in that suit pointed out that many other bands, such as Mudvayne, Kiss, and GWAR have used masks as part of their image, although after private discussions the advertising campaign was dropped.
I cant remember what site I got this from... But... Yeah...
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bbristowe: Agreed 110%. Mushroomhead's live show and musicianship by far over shadows that of Slipknot. They sound as good (sometimes better) live than Slipknot ever will. Furthermore, they are well worth the cost of a ticket anytime you see them (small or large venues). Whereas Slipknot seem to be hit and miss. You can not judge the talent of a band by their album sales. If that were true Hannah Montanna and Jonas Brothers would be the most talented acts on the scene. *shivers* It reaaly felt wrong typing that.
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37 I call bullsh** on you watching Pig Destroyer on MTV. Its like me saying I heard Converge on the top 40 at work today. It just isn't going to happen.
I went and saw Slipknot and I must admit I was impressed but they are the biggest gimmicky, self indulgent band.
Lots of bands get popular for being good or groundbreaking. Slipknot got big by knowing how to get people's money
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"Lots of bands get popular for being good or groundbreaking. Slipknot got big by knowing how to get people's money"
Exactly. A good example of a poor band advertised properly. DEP is renowned for their live shows, LOG for the Wall of Death (I know they didn't create, but I've seen them utilize it most). Slipknot just seems to act aggressive on stage with no real goal achieved at the end of the night. At least for me. I didn't leave the show thinking "Wow, thank god I didn't pass this opportunity up. On the other hand, I saw LOG, Hatebreed and 3IOB in the same night, for $40 canadian. Now that show left my jaw dropping.
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The three heavy bands that I thought were real good all different feels. Slayer were really good and intense but it felt like it was just a job to them and they just put it on at the shows, Unearth were just good and fun and were obviously having a blast, even though there were like 40 kids there and Converge actually seemed like all that anger and rage was genuine.
Seeing LoG next Friday. Can't wait.
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Actually, The song Loathsome was on MTv at one point, by Pig destroyer. So it did happen. He's not wrong on that account.
Everything else he said though....
There is too much that offends me in his post for me to properly feel like articulating a proper debate.
Rap isnt even real music?
ANY metal is better than rap?
NO, SLIPKNOT's Masks Are Not An Attention Gimmick?
Somebody needs to take a step back and stop being such a blind and dedicated fan that they cant see what their favorite band has become. i like Slipknot honestly, but I'm not going ot let their hypocrisies and pervasive media-whoring slip by unnoticed, and neither should you Inkedindecisionfan.
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Throughout this post I havent heard much of people having a problem with Slipknot's music. From what I gather, and what I feel myself, it's the focus on some "award" or the feeling that they were somehow cheated. I'm not much of a fan myself, but like I said before, there are tons of Slipknot fans, and alot of them are willing to defend the band at the drop of a hat. Sometimes even when there is no need. (Believe me, I butt heads with them frequently) That's what metal is about. Not some "award". Slipknot fans seem like a very tightknit , dedicated bunch. That's f***ing cool. That's what the band originally set out to do and that's what truly matters. When that no longer becomes enough, or when these awards take precedence over that, it's time to take a hard look at why you do what you do. Metal has never set out to be popular. And no matter how many hard rock bands get mainstream acceptence, extreme acts will always be fringe. For a band that started out incredibly radio-unfriendly, Slipknot has become a very big act. Again that's pretty f***ing cool. Recognition, not mainstream popularity. Fans, not awards. That's the basis of the music we all love.
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I agree with most of what F.A.N. says...as I do most of the time, to me Slipknot is whatever. Their ok, like some songs, but think they are a little overrated. Their success or lack of doesn't have anything to do with how I feel about them, it's what i read on this site. Everytime you read an article one of these a$$holes is saying the wrong thing, if it''s Corey or Joey, they have some talent to back up their 'full of themselves' moments but when the clown or programmer guys starts talkin sh** I want to ask them, What if Slipknot broke up tomorrow? where the hell would you be? Are their a lot of bands out there in need of a snare drum player or dj??
Rap isn't any less music than metal, country, folk.., you could find the lack of talent in any genre of music. I don't care what type of music you play, if you right your own stuff i respect you.
Lastly, every single band or artist that puts on make-up, masks, costumes, contact lens, or whatever is doing it to stand out and get noticed.
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Brett, the heaviest band to get into the top 3 was Pantera who debuted at number one with Far Beyond Driven. They're heavier than Slipknot I think you'll agree.
Posts 37 I knew I was gonna be mostly a waste of time from the start but the "all metal is greater than rap" is bullsh**. Unbelievable, foul, mountain sized bullsh**. Thing is there's actually alot of good rap out there, you just have to look for it. If you only think of rap as Soulja Boy and Little Wayne then you're gonna believe that sh**, but if you look in the underground and find Immortal Technique, Non Phixion, Tech N9ne and Jedi Mind Tricks, then you'll find alot of good stuff out there. I haven't listened to much of The Game however, last I heard he was being sued by Triple H.
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Aesop Rock and Shadrach Kabango. Only hip-hop I've been listening to at all in the past 2 years. More of an underground sound on each of them, but I can't listen to any rap without lyrics that make you think. I cannot listen to gangster bullsh** or anything that glorifies crime. 10 years living in Detroit saw to that. It's just not fun anymore.
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To say nwa sucks or is or was sh** shows what a f*****n idiot would say.....ya ya im in my 30s but what they did for rap will be never forgotten and always respected....as for slipknot, ya they look good on paper and they have gain a lot of mainstream fans but they have also lost alot of there underground metal fans....could care less about this game topic, but this band seems to always have somethin to say about the most stupidest worthless crap imagineable...thought this band was the greatest thing 1999-02 but since that vol 3 cd, and seeing them sell there jump suits and masks and shoes at the mall and that fabolous mtv 2008 video music award show apperance, i grew up and got sicken by there sellout B.S........BLACKMETAL.
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Too many good posts to comment on, but I will say this, I like Slipknot, and I think their new one is great, but they are really whining and putting feet in their mouths here lately. After 2Pac died, rap went kinda downhill for me. Even though he is an egomaniac who should should keep his dumbass trap shut, Kanye West puts out a few good ones every now and then.
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i like mate. feed. kill. repeat., slipknot, and iowa, but after that this band went from slipknot to sh**knot. you had to know it wouldnt last, there's too much dead weight in that band, people are getting bored, there's nothing left, these guys should get together with kiss, limp bizkit, and great white and go into seclusion for a while
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BrianSd- re: post 55. If a musician has bad eyesight and wears contacts how could you say they are "trying to be noticed." because of it? I have had vision problems all my life (glasses at 8, contacts at 12) and just because someone tries to correct their vision instead of walking around blind (I am legally blind) you think they are trying to prove something? That is some bull sh**! Not everyone can afford Lasik!
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Slipknot's newest CD, I don't consider it metal, I consider it a hard rock album, just like I do Disturbed, Godsmack, etc. AHIG is a decent "HARD ROCK" album in my opinion. I don't like Slipknot's attitude, I never have. They always seem to want money, and thats it. As I've stated before, I like my metal to stand for something, and my bands do it because they love doing it. Money is corruption at its finest.
And honestly, I would hate to see metal played on MTV and such. I like the fact that metal is an underground style of music, because it makes me different from every other person. Plus, I know I would hate it if everyone around me listens to metal. Metal should stay where it belongs, in the hearts of metalheads and underground.
Rap is real music, keyword, RAP. It takes alot of talent to rap. Soulja Boy, Lil Wayne, etc. isn't rap, it is hip hop and to me there is a HUGE difference. Rap consists of Immortal Technique (amazing rap), Mos Def, Outkast (Their old stuff), Busta Rhymes, Tech N9ne (@_@), etc.
All in all, I think metal should stay where its at. Slipknot needs to get the f*** over themselves, and alot of people need to see the difference between rap and hip hop.
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Netromancer- You mean like the one's Marilyn Manson and Dani Filth wear? That didn't even register to me since I have been wearing contacts half my life. If Brian SD didn't clarify himself enough and was referring to cosmetic lenses, I apologize. I gotta stand up for the visually impaired community, hahahahaha.
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What the f*** is Slipknot so p***ed about when they released a dog sh** album? When I want to hear Slipknot, I want to hear brutality. I want music that makes me want to beat the sh** out of someone. There old music meant something... to them and to the fans. Now they are here to make money... Can we say they are taking the path of Metallica?
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Bruno-
I thought that it was obvious what I meant when I listed the contact lenses with masks and make up, but I'll try to be more clear next time.
I'm not going to talk sh** about the blind, I was guessing through my last vision test at the dmv, and passed. I'm also color blind.
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Im positive Slayer debuted in the top ten there last two albums, and i can remember the Christian band Underoath debuted #2 a couple of years ago as well, however there probally harder then Slipknot, hahaha. And there have been allot of other "pop punk, screamo bands" to debut in the top ten in the last five years as well. Since the popularity of punk and metal genres continue grow well see heavier and heavier music in the billboard top ten, thats just my opinion however.
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BrianSd- Yeah, I realized that after Netro pointed it out, hence apology in my second post. It was my bad. You are color blind dude? Damn I thought my vision problems were tough. You could understand why I was trying to stick up for the visually impaired then, haha. Have a good one Brian-man.
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Parkway Drive are on of the few metalcore bands that I really enjoy. Usually I only dig the ones that are really technical or prog or experimental. As with most metal I like these days, come to think of it lol. But Parkway are decent.
I still hold Glassjaw in awe. THAT is a solid metalcore band, as far as I am concerned.
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slipknot has to sell innit?.... but for f..k sake, talking about hip, hop, trip whatever bullsh** ur all talking about is completely insane, unfortunally they get more media atention than metal bands and that's why they sell, it's because the radio, tv etc... just stick's that kind of bull...tt down people's throats hundreds of times a day, otherwise i recon they would never get anywere cause there's f..k all to it, c'mon.
Metal, prog, stoner rock, punk, powerpunk or whatever in these lines, it's rock, and that is what it's all about boys and girls. rap??? what the f..k's that? good lyrics??? none there, jus complete bollocks.
Sorry but can't hold it in. rock on.
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I don't get what is the problem, everybody has to live and those guys were lucky enough to earn their living thanks to he music they make, u know there's a lot bands that finish touring and they get back to everyday life with a 8-17 job the reson is they are not that popular s slipknot but i bet a lot of them dream about it.I think slash or somebody else said that majority of musicians start their bands because they wanna get money and girls,common there an't be talkig of any artism when your 16-17.
Summing Up f*** all the people that are jellous of slipknots fame and money
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85. writes:
I never had a problem with Corey Taylor until now. I think he needs to take a look at the bigger picture. His band has a number album which is a big feat for metal music. He doesn't need to go and complain about how his band fought for that title but rather he should thank the fans who bought the album and made them number one. I agree with XWigglesX. It shouldn't be about money or awards. It should be about the love for the music.
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86. writes:
Hardcore music has as much variety as coldplay, or staind.
you go out into the industry and find for me a band who isnt trying to make money.
i will agree with you on one point wiggles, my guitarist and i started a metalband because we love metal. we wanted to create music that wasnt like metal on our shores(because lets face it american metal isn't that spectacular, let alone the NJ metal scene which is overflowing with deathcore grindcore regurgitated bullsh** with no individuality setting the bands apart).
Thats where my animosity to hardcore comes from, because i've had to sit through so many boring hardcore acts to see one good band its not even funny. On top of that some fat a$$hole in a christmas sweater punched me in the face for no reason while i was waiting through some sh**ty band called merauder to see obituary. the only creativity i saw in merauder was the fact the guitarist changed hats every song, or every breakdown in any case(dont even try to imagine how many hats he had)
Call me close minded all you want, because i've got DMX right next to Dimmu in my itunes library.
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87. writes:
f*** me its a bunch of blblblblba i d think every band in the world wants to sell many records as they can
and yes bret you are right its all about being on mtv
no matter what kind of band you are even metal or trash bands want to go on the wagon of cash
so cory is sort of right he might be a f***ing homo
but on the end its all about being a popmetal band and lots of cash
maybe the should lose there mask and see who will be around as a good band
remember the other band who did try to lose the mask but did not really work for them
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88. writes:
Never listened to The Shape of Punk to Come by Refused have you? You can't tell me they aimed to sell tons of records.
There are many different forms of hardcore. Listen to Black Flag, Youth Of Today, early Throwdown, Madball and Verse who are all lead bands in their scenes and tell me they all sound the same. Hardcore has plenty of different styles.
Actually listen to some real hardcore before you start saying it all sounds the same. Remember, deathcore is NOT hardcore.
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89. writes:
I dunno what Wilcos musical tastes are, but for me personally, being so into progressive stuff, pretty much all hardcore does sound relatively the same to me. Sometimes I don't mind it, but generally it bores me.
Really, you don't think much of Glassjaw? I think they're definitely one of the more interesting metalcore bands out there. Their arrangements aren't quite so straightforward as your usual fare (ie bands like Parkway), which for me is a saving grace.
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94. writes:
God, there are a lot of posts for this article...lol. ROCK ON!! I will be busy reading them this weekend. Hey BlindGreed, when are you going to play the White Rabbit in San Antonio?? If you have a gig there - I could probably go check out the band. Bodom Fan is from S.A. too.
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95. writes:
Nothing against you Wiggles i'm just your typical arrogent metalhead who is simply content with listening to death and black metal all day long.
np: Krisiun- Slaying Steel
god they're so f***ing brutal. If you like death metal and you havnt picked up Southern Storm, you really need to, its a solid album.
and for the love of god wilco, this isnt a peep show noone wants to see your titties.
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1. Johnny Boy writes:
(Sits back and relax) Can't wait for the comments that are gonna erupt :)