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Drowning Pool Singer Slams Papa Roach And Alter Bridge

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Drowning Pool vocalist Ryan McCombs has posted two blogs recently regarding a show the band performed with Papa Roach, Alter Bridge and Rev Theory. Check them out below:

"The powers that be have been after me for some time to write another blog. Hell, at one point it was even suggested that I try to start some controversy with some other acts. You know the old 'no such thing as bad press' BS. It was suggested that I take a shot at Kid Rock one time. WHAT??? Here's a dude that marches the same path we do supporting our troops. Yeah, right, I'll get right on that.

"Actually, I will, but not at Kid Rock. Hell, I respect the guy — why would I do that?! I need a reason to be a prick. Anyone out there that knows me knows that much. So let me get to it. Let me make everyone happy.

"I'm sitting here in Mt. Clemens, Michigan at a radio show for WRIF, a bad-ass station up here in these parts. On the bill tonight was four bands that led us to look forward to this show tonight. REV THEORY, who we've been on the road with for a few shows here the past couple of weeks. ALTER BRIDGE, who I have no idea about, and PAPA ROACH, who happens to be 10th Street (our management) family of ours. Family, my ass.

"I have never witnessed such a short-dick syndrome in my career. Mind you, back in the SOIL days, I opened up for OZZY, ROB ZOMBIE and MUDVAYNE and I have never been treated like such a piece of shit. Not that any one of those three bands would ever even think of treating another performing artist the way PAPA ROACH and ALTER BRIDGE treated REV THEORY and ourselves today.

"A room full of people/fans completely get dicked out of the show they paid for because PAPA ROACH decides they need enough room behind the drum kit to park a fucking tour bus between it and the back of the stage. Then ALTER BRIDGE doesn't strike their kit. Something completely in the right of the headliner but an inflated-head move for a support band, of any level. So the paying audience gets to see DROWNING POOL and REV THEORY try to navigate within about one foot of space between the kit and the front wedge (monitor).

"You know, I don't get this shit. People in this business are so quick to spew brotherhood and family bullshit. And then the short-dick syndrome kicks in. What's the point of being such shits to other bands in this business? Are you scared you can't bring it when the fucking time comes? Are you so worried that somebody might bring the shit some night and give the crowd what they paid for that you have to handcuff them before the show even starts? I hope the people that paid for four shows tonight get fucking checks in the mail to cover their ticket costs from PAPA ROACH and ALTER BRIDGE. You all deserve it. You deserve what you pay for. I'm sorry along with the rest of the guys and along with REV THEORY that you all got fucked out of the four performances that you paid for.

"Just saw ALTER BRIDGE. Looks like we should have switched spots. You could have done your-feet-nailed-to-the-floor routine in our foot of space easily...

"Sorry if I piss off any fans out there, that isn't my point. You hear this brotherhood BS and then you see the tongue-waggers for what they are.

"To PAPA ROACH and ALTER BRIDGE... leave the handcuffs on the headboard where they belong, allow the fans the show they paid for.
"Now, not being a spring chicken, I do realize that maybe these bands got put in a position of looking bad to REV and us due to their crew. But I've always been a firm believer that a bands crew is a reflection of the people they work for. So choke on it."

The second blog McCombs posted was to clarify the statements he had previously made on Ozzy, Rob Zombie and Mudvayne:

"I've been thinking of the last blog I posted and I wanted to make sure I explained a point I was trying to make.

"When I mentioned the 'Merry Mahem Tour' I did back in the SOIL days with MUDVAYNE, ZOMBIE and OZZY, I was trying to make a point that may be lost on some that aren't familiar with these bands or their shows. All three of these bands had good, if not huge, productions (stage shows). But every night they did what they could to make sure everyone could do their show to the best of their ability. My mentioning of this tour and those bands was just to show that having been out with bands with their production size, and all together on one stage, that even then the pro in them stood out.

"We've all been in those situations where our hands are tied due to stage size but tonight was not one of them. Tonight was just a matter of not giving a shit. Was it the first time a band or bands acted in such a way? Nope. Will it be the last? Sadly enough, probably not. It was what it was. A bad night that could easily have been avoided. Misfortunate for the fans, and again to them I'm sorry for the way things played out."

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1. Westfallen writes:

huh huh. He said d1ck.

# May 18, 2008 @ 3:14 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. inhatredofme writes:

yea for some reason i can see alter bridge and papa roach being douchebags like that....just seems to fit them well.

# May 18, 2008 @ 3:34 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. MetallicPunk writes:

Its unfortunate this happened but Alterbridge to me dont have clout to say anything especially since their music is ok at best and while I am a Papa Roach fan I say this why dont they just park their bus somewhere else and make room I mean come on its not like their is a huge demand for them everywhere.

# May 18, 2008 @ 5:40 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. Adrian writes:

anyone who likes kid rock is f***in gay so i guess drowning pool is gay

# May 18, 2008 @ 9:16 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. Kalis_wrath writes:

^Not sure if you fully understod why they respect Kid Rock. It seems they respect him for supporting the troops, not his music.

# May 18, 2008 @ 9:44 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. FocusShift writes:

Were any of the bands mentioned in this article worth mentioning? Nu-Metal feuds and angst, what a shock there.

# May 18, 2008 @ 9:53 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. bill writes:

what a f***ing whiny b****

# May 18, 2008 @ 10:23 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. Westfallen writes:

Also, maybe he met Kid Rock and likes him as a friend.

# May 18, 2008 @ 11:04 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. Kalis_wrath writes:

That says little about him. Kid Rock may support the troops and that is all well and dandy, but the rest of him is deplorable to say the least!

# May 18, 2008 @ 11:09 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. BrianSD writes:

Kalis gets it...he said he respects Kid Rocks support of the troops, and made a point to be clear on that.

# May 19, 2008 @ 12:38 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. EXZOOMER writes:

DROWNING POOL?!.....PAPA ROACH?! i have a roll of toilet paper that has a better portfolio than either one of these acts,..oh and,..by the way...whats creed been up to lately?....could you guys cover more guns'n'roses stories?
thanks a bunch,
yer uncle EX

# May 19, 2008 @ 1:41 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. Red_Chord writes:

YAWN !!

# May 19, 2008 @ 9:34 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. CrawfordTexasJingoJango writes:

Anyone can say they support the troops. Who gives a sh**? What do you think Kid Rock does to support the troops that doesn't make him money? And, I'm almost willing to take it a step further to say that Kid Rock said that for the same reason John McCain does. Those people are the only audience he's got left, and he's gotta say something to make people want to relate. I remember in Detroit when Kid Rock was opening up for ICP back in the early 90's. He had a Kid N Play tall flattop and all the goofy tight acid-washed jeans and big sunglasses and shxt. I remember when he was Kid Rap, then he was Kid Country, and now he's just Kid Seger.

I'd rather someone come out and say that they DON'T support the troops because the fight is a lie, we don't know the government's true reasoning (and we never will) behind invading Iraq, and the kids that are over there dying ("troops") are the kids that had nothing left other than to die face down in the sand alone and scared thousands of miles away from anyone who cares about them.

Maybe feel sorry for the troops, but support them? As in "Yes, keep fighting. I support you." No. This is bull-headed redneck patriotic bravado left over from 9/11 that hasn't flushed away yet. And THAT is Kid Rock's fan base.

# May 19, 2008 @ 12:04 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. Kalis_wrath writes:

So CTJJ, you are saying that I am a red neck for supporting the troops? I say f*** you man if so! I have family in the millitary and have supported the troops all my life and NOT a red neck! I may not be thinking straight right now as I am dealing with a death in the family so correct me if I am wrong.

# May 19, 2008 @ 12:27 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. SonOfKalmah writes:

youve got to be kidding. this is "the nu-metal days of our lives" what a f***in joke. once all their 14 yr old fans get past this unfortunate phase, these bands should just call it quits. sh** it would be joy to see it now.

# May 19, 2008 @ 12:36 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. broken face writes:

Theres broken opinion, drowning pool r a gd band with gd songs - kid rock suks d*** - sure they both support the troops but 2 be honest i dnt give a fuk its not like a metal song is guna stop u from getin shot in the face by a rag head

# May 19, 2008 @ 12:45 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. CrawfordTexasJingoJango writes:

I'm not saying you're a redneck for supporting the troops. What I'm asking is what do you think Kid Rock has done, other than saying so, and maybe a PAID USO appearance or three to support the troops? I don't have family in Iraq, but one of my best friends is over there and he says it's fxcked. He said they were over there for a week before a troop committed suicide.

Don't get me wrong. I don't HATE the troops, but I can't say I support them. I support my friend that's over there, but I don't support the other troops gun-crazy and ready to shoot anything the President tells them to, and I don't support my friend's parents that wouldn't allow him to go to school instead, I don't support the recruiter that makes all the "promises" to gullible youngsters, and I don't support the administration that has our people over there fighting for reasons unknown. Usually, the people that are so gung-ho (sorry) about supporting the troops are the same people that actually support the war, and everyone I know that supports the war voted for Bush.

If you really want to know what I'm talking about, next time you meet a fat-assed transmission-rebuilding, fertilizer-hauling hillwilliam, tell him you don't support the war and see if you don't get your a$$ kicked.

Kid Seger saying he supports the troops just seems like a way-too-easy path to a fanbase. I bet 3 Doors Down and Nickelback say the same thing, and it may not be because they really support the troops, but more likely that they know the only people dumb enough NOT to download their music are the fat hillbilly housewives that sit around all day and watch infomercials and, coincidentally, support the war and their right to bear arms, and their right to infest Wal-Marts. And I mean, really, when do you think the last time Kid Country's patrioticism was tested? He paints the US Flag on a guitar or two and writes some country music, and all of a sudden nobody's asking questions. He used to be all "Fxck what you think" and shxt like that, but now he's got a fanbase to tend to.

Kalis, if you have family over there, I really hope they come back unscathed, but realize that W is doing everything he can to keep your family mamber there as long as humanly possible for reasons none of us understand, not due to a lack of intelligence, but a lack of truth. None of us knows why we're over there. You can say oil or Bush Sr. or whatever, but it's all pure speculation. I really hope your loved one makes it home alright, because I know if my friend dies over there, I'm f***ing moving to Mexico.

Fun is fun, and done is done, and like Bob Dylan said "You're gonna have to serve somebody."

# May 19, 2008 @ 1:31 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. CrawfordTexasJingoJango writes:

Pretty much, just reconsider your definition of "support" because that's what got us over there in the first place.

# May 19, 2008 @ 1:33 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. BrianSD writes:

On a side note...I have a friend whos been in the marines for 7 years and has been to Iraq and surrounding places several times. He worked security for the drowning pool concert (he wasn't even sure who they were) and said most of the guys were pretty cool..

# May 19, 2008 @ 2:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. Red_Chord writes:

Well the fact and the matter is, I support American and Canadian troops. I support them for the fact that they are over there, in an hellhole, putting their life on the line everyday. That doesn't mean that I support G.W Or Stephen Harper because I don't. They are there for no reason at all but hey have to go because it is their duty. I just support them because it is hard, dangerous and courageous to be there. But I don't support the a$$ wipes that decided to send them there. That should be how we support the troops, not for political reasons but for human reasons.

# May 19, 2008 @ 8:20 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. Kalis_wrath writes:

I support the troops for the reasons Red does and want to add to what he said and have already said here in regards to the war in Iraq in the Disturbed thread "Disturbed frontman calls Clinton two faced." I am not supporting the war in Iraq under the pretences Bush declared it under, but for what the war has done for Iraq.

# May 19, 2008 @ 8:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. Red_Chord writes:

Which is nothing better than before, same thing in Afghanistan...just get our guys out of there and let them blow themselves up.

# May 19, 2008 @ 10:00 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. Kalis_wrath writes:

Red, in a perfect world we could just pull out, but that is a VERY dangerouse thing to do. I mean, we broke it we bought it.

# May 19, 2008 @ 10:13 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. FocusShift writes:

In a perfect world we wouldn't be fighting in there. We'd be playing metalfests for the Iraq people featuring At the Gates and Iron Maiden.

# May 19, 2008 @ 10:58 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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25. BonesMaloney writes:

Papa Raoch and Alterbridge suck!

# May 22, 2008 @ 6:38 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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26. Skate-or-Die writes:

Wait a godd@mn minute!! I work on transmissions and enjoy shopping at wal-mart! I have also been known to indulge at Wendy's from time to time. Am I the person Jingo Jango is speaking off? Am I a "hillwilliam"? Wow, I really need to check myself. Is it possible that I have succombed to a life of meaningless exsistance dominated by America's retail conglomerates? Have I become a conformist because of convienience and falling prices? Dude, please teach me the ways of the Jango so I can once again be punk rock and piss eveyone off because I like to generalize people by their professions or social status. FYI I am a democrat who supports the well being of thousands of young americans who are soldiers but does not support global terrorism or foreign oil interests or our current administrations invasion of Iraq. You are intitled to your opinion and I respect that, but you sound elitest.

# May 22, 2008 @ 10:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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27. kev74d writes:

Having just come back from Iraq a few months ago, I'd like to say thanks to everyone that supported me and the thousands of other soldiers, marines, sailors and airmen that were there with me and that are there now. I'd also like to thank Kid Rock and some of the other bands/musicians that came over to play some shows. I never got to see any, but I heard they were nice non the least. Even though I'm not a fan of Kid Rock or Drowning Pool, doesn't mean that someone else over there isn't. Maybe seeing Kid Rock in concert is some guy/girls life dream. Maybe since oh, I dunno, that there's really not a whole hell of alot to do over there but melt in 130degree heat, dig sand out of your ears, try to stay alive, try to keep your buddies alive, not get blown-up, shot, killed, or do something stupid, maybe going to a Kid Rock show wouldn't be that half-bad. I didn't go because "the president" told me to go. The President doesn't know my name. I went because other people needed me. I went because the guy next to me needed me. Doesn't matter if you believe the President is right/wrong. You go because your people need you. You go because you may be the only difference between them coming home or not coming home. You go for support. You go to give the guy next to you a chance. It's about honor and integrity. Not proving that the President or the Government is right/wrong. You have each other over there. The President isn't there with you. I didn't even vote for the guy. But I made a commitment. I made a promise. I made a choice. Doesn't matter if I believe in the President. I believe in the men and women that are over there. Thats what matters. Covering your buddies rear and watching out for one another. Cause who else will? We may never know the real reasons behind this war. But I can give you thousands of reasons to support the troops. It's ok to not support the war, but if you can't muster up enough patriotism to support your fellow man then pick another country to inhabit. Kid Rock may have visited for the wrong reasons, who knows, but at least he made some soldiers life a little better if only for a short time. Drowning Pool may be supporting for all the wrong reasons, but maybe some marine sleeps better at night with his Drowning Pool CD. I believe in the people. If everyone thought like some of the "posts" I just read, we'd probably all be speaking another language. The whole reason your able to have the freedom to not support or support the troops is because of the troops. That would be like me saying "well, I don't agree with my new Ford Truck, so I'm just gonna turn my back on all the cars and trucks and the cars and trucks I do have, I'll just let 'em sit in the garage cause it's their own fault the decided to become cars and trucks in the first place."

# May 23, 2008 @ 12:19 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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28. Kalis_wrath writes:

^No man, thank you! My brother in law has a pic on his mypace of a termometer and its WAY past the 120 degree mark. It was estimated at 150°+!

# May 23, 2008 @ 12:32 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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29. Brianstrife writes:

im a marine out in quantico virginia sending 700 marines through predeployment training. im happy to see we still dont get caught up in the bullsh** politics and just support our fellow brothers for what they have to do. thank you semper fi.

# May 23, 2008 @ 8:05 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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30. CrawfordTexasJingoJango writes:

Blah...

# May 23, 2008 @ 9:09 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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31. CrawfordTexasJingoJango writes:

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32. CrawfordTexasJingoJango writes:

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33. CrawfordTexasJingoJango writes:

Semper these nuts you fxcking slogan-spewing mindless drone. No wonder you're a marine.

# May 23, 2008 @ 3:13 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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34. Kalis_wrath writes:

CTJJ, love ya brother, but you are kind of a dumb arse hole. I would also be careful what you say to the millitary, unless of course you have a death wish.

# May 23, 2008 @ 3:20 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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35. Blindfate writes:

f*** papa roach and alterbridge and kid rock cause all their music is the same anyway. If u want to hear good rock go to myspace.com/blindfateband

# May 24, 2008 @ 11:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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36. Lady-Reaper writes:

Wow a replacement singer in a washed up band is attacking other washed up bands. It's like black on black crime.

# May 25, 2008 @ 12:15 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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37. Txmetalhead writes:

I don't agree with this war either. Does that make me unpatriotic? There is no fukkin'g reason to be in Iraq...correct me if I am wrong. We are not safe - even with our troops in Iraq. The government has the guns and the intel - we have sh1t. We[the U.S.] have been fortunate...that is all. I would much rather have our troops defend our country..then try to do what ever they do - overseas. Thank God that Mother fukker...Bush is finally getting the fukk out of the White House. Just so you guys know, my dad is a veteran, my grandfather was a veteran, my uncle is veteran, and my brother-in-law was in the army. What is his life now...complete sh**...the army sh1t on my brother-in-law..but that seems to be typical of our government. We, as a free people, are nothing more than fukkin' pawns in the game of war. No - I don't support this war...so I guess I am unpatriotic, and proud of it. You don't need to get shot up, blow apart, receive a purple heart to have honor or integrity...that is something that your parents can instill in you. I usually argue with CJJ - but the military is an institution...look up the real definition..nothing but robots..trained to follow orders and kill the enemy. Our troops are good people who happen to be in a fukked up situation..but we need to remember that even with our troops overseas..we aren't any fukkiin'g safer..man from terrorists. Once again, I have family who served in war...so I have a right to express my feelings.

# May 25, 2008 @ 10:44 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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38. Txmetalhead writes:

I respect any of you who feel remorse for those in this war...but I have nothing but contempt for the government.
The point I am making is war destroys lives...Have you heard of Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder..or PTSD. Practically every troop will be diagnosed with this disorder..and they have our wonderful government to thank for that. I respect you all...and you have a right to your own opinion, just try to respect others who oppose this war. It is pretty obvious, now, that I am a democrat.

# May 25, 2008 @ 10:49 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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39. Cingular Indestructible Agent writes:

Sheesh. Lemme just say... more than half of you ppl here have gone almost off-topic. Yes, he mentioned the troops blahblahblah... the war is all BS. period. but what can I do? i'll just sit on my a$$ and watch u ppl poke each others' eyes out.

As for Drowning Pool: f--king whiny little b!tch. Lemme see, would Papa Roach be utterly offended by a f--kin STAGE SIZE like Drowning Pool? C'mon. They're just one of the bands out there who'd much rather play on a f--kin stage and kill it. Seriously, I think someone's just bitter about not making the Cruefest bill. oh burn.

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40. CrawfordTexasJingoJango writes:

Yeah, what a gay tour.

# May 29, 2008 @ 9:59 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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41. Txmetalhead writes:

War is a joke...a smoke screen..propaganda bullshixt! Terror and evil will always be around. How do you stop it??? Has anyone looked up the stats on the number of soldiers who come home with mental problems...such as PTSD? The only real casualties of war are the soldiers...sad, indeed.

# May 29, 2008 @ 11:42 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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42. CrawfordTexasJingoJango writes:

Yeah, what can I get in trouble for saying? Ooh, I'm scared.

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