lol phil... who did heroine for an aching back? well you never really know who believes what anyway... i mean megadeth's lead singer is a christian, and so is bono of U2... sometimes people dont advertise it because they dont want to be criticized by people like a lot of the people on this site. I mean some people say they're christian and really arent, too.

well i bet they will mostly recruit christian hardcore bands which isnt bad i guess... if they arent bad... i mean i like a song by august burns red, a song by inhale exhale, some songs by creed, and like one song by norma jean... other wise there really isnt a whole lot of great christian metal bands out there now, like as i lay dying is no good. So this could be good, but who knows..

but coldiem dont be a dumb a$$ there are more christian bands now than there ever has been, and yes labels look for bands sometimes, but if all labels always looked for bands this wouldnt be news now would it?

and the egyptian book of the dead has nothing to do with Christianity, the hall of two truths and the questions they ask have little to do with christianity let alone judaism, they are all basically saying i didnt harm somebody else, and saying to respect things which could be a similarity in any religion, because it is common knowledge that, that is relative to situation and text, good. That is just a silly theroy by stupid historians trying to destroy divinity in the texts by trying to find as many similarities that they can. just say you dont believe rather than to prove some point that most christians wouldnt believe anyway. Maybe you guys should read the bible before criticizing it.

# Sep 9, 2007 @ 7:43 PM ET | IP Logged

the disciples didnt perform miracles, and just because someone becomes a christian while they are scared doesnt mean that they are only a believer when you are scared, and guess what part of christianity is knowing that YOU are not as powerful as you think. You have so much pride you only associate the fear with it and guess what dave mustaine didnt just recently convert, but nobody becomes a true christian because of purely fear, no one, because then they arent a true christian but just scared of death. Read the bible maybe, there is nothing in it that says pretend like your christian and you are saved...

and i have never heard in my life of horus doing all of that lol... horus was the resurrection of orsis and was god of the sky, and horus was not crucified. And horus never had 12 disciples but they were the 12 signs of the zodiac. And really orsis never actually resurrected but was banned from the world of the living.

"brought a shapely and decorated chest, which he had caused to be made according to the measurements of the king's body... Set proclaimed that
he would gift the chest unto him whose body fitted its proportions with exactness... Then Osiris came forward. He lay down within the chest, and he
filled it in every part. But dearly was his triumph won in that dark hour which was his doom. Ere he could raise his body, the evil followers of Set
sprang suddenly forward and shut down the lid, which they nailed fast and soldered with lead. So the richly decorated chest became the coffin of
the good king Osiris, from whom departed the breath of life."

and as both pursuit of viking and i have been saying for a while NOWHERE in the bible does it condone what people did in the crusades and such, or any SIN for that matter, out whole religion is based against that.

I dont think you are ignorant, but that doesnt mean i will let you step on me. I do think that people should read more of the bible though (but that is just a personal thing).

Now playing: Rosetta - Au Pays Natal

# Sep 10, 2007 @ 5:31 PM ET | IP Logged

the bible was written by men guided by God, the world was created guided by God and evolution guided by God... that is what christians believe, if you dont then fine, doesnt mean i'm wrong... we'll find that out one day anywayz.

and actually sorry to break your bubble but Tom Araya is agnostic, the king of writing God hating music.

# Sep 10, 2007 @ 5:36 PM ET | IP Logged

**sorry for the third post in a row, i do that sometimes**

there are 12 zodiacs because there are '12' months (although not called months then) and they did not spread his teachings and isis was not a virgin.
"[Isis] made to rise up the helpless members [p***s] of him whose heart was at rest, she drew from him his essence [sperm]
, and she made therefrom an heir [Horus]."

# Sep 10, 2007 @ 5:39 PM ET | IP Logged

lol there is much more to the bible than just the typical stories you most commonly hear, and i have no idea what you are talking about with the astrology thing because in 2000 BC babylonian astrology didnt have any Virgo's when judaism was starting... and the virgin mary's importance has little to do with skies and earth and things of that nature, and virgo is more closely related to Astraea the virgin daughter of themis and zeus. I seriously doubt a group of people would write one of the first books in the world with thoasands of extremely complex ideas and metaphors all based off of astrology and looking at the sky. Also scorpio is also a M symbol and actually is a better M and more accurate M than virgo. And what do bulls and twins have in common with the bible?? and if the mother mary is believed to be a "holy" person than why is the scorpio a better M and represents scorpions, which in the bible represent a power of agony that go along with their stings... which is in revelations when they make the metaphor about the locusts being unleashed. And zodiac means circle of animals, so now the mother mary is on the same level as animals, when in the bible it is said that animals were put on the planet for humans and are lesser, especially to mother mary.

but by the way i should check out these bands you guys are suggesting.

now playing: Tool - The Grudge

# Sep 10, 2007 @ 11:26 PM ET | IP Logged

yeah your right Kerry king i suppose would be the "real" king of Jesus hating, but yeah i still was just saying there are people you wouldnt expect who believe in God, thats all.

and well i believe in the bible, not in whatever jehovahs witnesses believe and some of the other sects. but i suppose i did misrepresent certain people. But certainly a good amount of christians do agree, it tends to be certain sects. that bend the texts alittle bit and/or are more traditional and more literal in what they read that tend to have creational beliefs.

# Sep 10, 2007 @ 11:33 PM ET | IP Logged

Focus shift i was just arguing a point you made against what i believe is it that wrong for me to do that? I dont believe there is anything wrong with a little confrontation, because without it what do we learn? If people just segregated themselves who think differently and then tried to never talk about why they believe and avoid it in all conversation then we all do just that, we fear and avoid and learn nothing.

Also the bible is a book of prophecies with 100's that have come true, but you can check them out and judge what you believe yourself, and you forgot to mention Islam, which believes jesus to be a prophet.

And cynic, when you read a book can you differentiate when the texts are speaking in metaphor or are literal? Much of the time they use things which are obvious metaphors saying things like the Shepard (God), and the sheep (people). What could a son of God be a metaphor for? Lamb of God, is a metaphor for son of God, but not the other way around.
When you read lyrics for a band or listen to them do you know when it is talking about Ticks and leeches (tool), or about people and things doing the same things leeches do, sucking you dry. Also they use things like, 'like' or 'as', for other more simple metaphors. Sometimes it's really complex like the seven headed beast in revelations, others it's as simple as emphasizing a point with a metaphor or using the Shepard and the sheep. Plus it's never as black and white as jesus is just the son of God, you know a lot of people just say he's the messiah from the jewish bible, and other ideas and beliefs are gathered from reading and are more assumed then just written that way. Other things like even some metaphors are also written in plain speech. But you know if the bible had no metaphors it would be a less complex piece of writing and it wouldnt be as good because you wouldnt understand the same ideas as well, and then it would just be a set of rules, which it isnt, it's more. If it was just a simple book, then why would it stick around for almost 2000 years while it was hated by one of the most infamous empires, who then later adopted it; while hundreds of thousands spend their whole lives studying it, and millions argue about it all the time. People have fought wars about it, then and now, people fight wars to end it, like osama bin laden, and others foolishly with their own pride ahead of their thoughts. Whether or not you like this book, it is no mere book.

# Sep 11, 2007 @ 3:53 PM ET | IP Logged

well that last part wasn't really arguing, and if it sounded that way (since i didn't re-read), i didn't mean it that way, i was just trying to answer cynic's question.

--anyone like Maylene and the Sons of Disaster, POD, or Zao?

Now playing: Isis - Over Root and Thorn

# Sep 11, 2007 @ 4:55 PM ET | IP Logged

200 years ago people didnt know about evolution, and yet even at that time people still viewed it as metaphor, there is a man in the trial against evolution who said that he did not read it all to be literal, i dont think it has changed that view to my knowledge has been there for along time. The only view that was significantly different was creationalism which is not even a word used in the bible, nowhere in the bible is that word used, let alone a word for that in greek, latin, hebrew, or arabic (in that time). Even Christianity itself was never a word used in the bible. It doesnt matter if there is an adam or eve, it's what they did and their punishment that matters, and yes i still think that there is an adam and eve, whether it is representative to all men and women, and mankind, or just two people, it still means the same thing. And i do believe in the miracles said in the bible not all are metaphor, what is metaphor are things like the beasts in revelations, i dont personally believe the story of moses and others are metaphor. I'm not sure exactly, but i think you may have mixed up what i am looking at as a 'metaphor' or 'symbol', when it says that there is a 7 headed beast with ten horns and that there will be locusts that dont harm plants but people, with crowns, and lion's teeth i dont think that is to be taken literally. The way these things are described shows that they are talking about places and things, and events to happen one day.

and an answer to your question with a quote i found, although it is kind of repetitive:
"First, God rested on the seventh day, Sabbath. The all-powerful God was not tired from creating the heavens and the earth, and yet the Bible shows that God rested on the seventh day, Sabbath. Keeping the Sabbath holy by resting was God’s first example to man. Here, “rest” simply means that God stopped or ceased His work of creation. God’s rest was not the rest of inactivity. It was a rest in distinction to His creative activities of the previous six days.

Second, God blessed the seventh day, Sabbath. This means that God gave the seventh day a special quality of goodness. He created a quality of blessing for the seventh day not given to any other day of the week. Notice that none of the other days of the week were blessed, only the seventh day.

Third, God sanctified or made holy the seventh day, Sabbath. By sanctifying or making the seventh day holy, God declared and made the seventh day to be sacred or holy time.

God did more than merely rest on that first Sabbath. “And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it ? (Genesis 2:3). This was God’s final act in His creation week. He took the last day (seventh day) of the creation week and set it apart as a special day. God made the seventh day Sabbath special by blessing it and setting it apart from the other six days."

also on the seventh day it says he ended his work, or in other words, he finished up making the planet, and universe or whatever.

"According to this passage [Hebrews 4:4–11], the seventh day of the creation week carries on through the centuries … the seventh day of Genesis 1 and 2 represents a minimum of several thousand years and a maximum that is open ended (but finite). It seems reasonable to conclude then, given the parallelism of the Genesis creation account, that the first six days may also have been long time periods."

so in other words the seventh day is not only the holy day but is still going on (not that every day is sabbath day).

Here is some of Hebrews 4:4- 11

"4For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
5And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
6Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
7Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
8For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
9There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
10For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
11Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief."

Now playing: Meshuggah - Sum

# Sep 11, 2007 @ 8:35 PM ET | IP Logged

sorry its so long, i dont have the guys email so i cant just send it to him, for those who are bothered and will whine in the future.

# Sep 11, 2007 @ 8:36 PM ET | IP Logged

and Focus shift i was never angry with you and truly was never really "arguing" but explaining points and beliefs, if everyone came to that conclusion then no one would ever talk or communicate about it, just because you dont want to read it doesnt mean you have to... so stop, and read something else. We heard you the first time, and just because your opinion wont change and you arent interested in other's opinions doesnt mean everyone is like you.

# Sep 11, 2007 @ 8:39 PM ET | IP Logged

yeah they are pretty awesome, i checked out their myspace and i didnt really like it, but then i checked out more. I also checked out there video on their myspace, the solo was pretty good but the black nail finger paint distracted my attention.

# Sep 11, 2007 @ 9:23 PM ET | IP Logged

check out: with faith or flames ( which is a link on their profile )

# Sep 11, 2007 @ 9:27 PM ET | IP Logged

the intros are good, but i havent listened through

# Sep 11, 2007 @ 9:28 PM ET | IP Logged

It was to stephen post 34, and to your "and yet others such as Jesus being the son of God you still think are true? I mean I can see I'm not going to change any minds here but I still can't help but ask." and yeah whatever else i dont remember. It was mostly not to you. Answering Stephen's question, and explaining a bit of why i believe what i believe about the metaphor difference, thats all.

Now playing: Opeth - Reverie/Harlequin Forest

# Sep 12, 2007 @ 4:01 PM ET | IP Logged

sorry to confuse you, i should have specified more

# Sep 12, 2007 @ 4:02 PM ET | IP Logged