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Marilyn Manson and Dita von Teese Get Personal In Interviews

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Marilyn Manson and his estranged wife have both recently given interviews discussing their personal lives among other things. Polly Vernon of The Observer recently conducted an interview with Marilyn Manson. A few excerpts from the chat follow:

On his new album, "Eat Me, Drink Me":

"I don't think that I would... [long pause] exist, if it weren't for this record. . . I haven't... left my house in a year. I shut myself, literally, out of being with people, and I think I... no, I wouldn't exist without this record. . . To me, it was worse than wanting to die. I didn't want to live. When you want to die, you at least have a goal. You're aiming for something. It's not a good goal, but at least you want something. And you've got anger and fear, but at least you're feeling something. But I wasn't afraid, I didn't have fear, I didn't care and I didn't have hope. . . Depression's something that people would... probably assume I've always had an element of it in me. But I know that I've never f... f... I was going to say 'felt,' but I don't know how I 'felt'... I didn't have any feeling — it's a void. But this record, it's a cliche, but this record saved me..."

On whether Manson blames his depression on his marriage to Dita von Teese:

"Yes, it has an inconvenient, unfortunate parallel to — you know — getting married. I think they ultimately have to be associated. I don't think that the relationship was... something to blame... as much as the, just the, the cliches of marriage. Being expected to change. Change who you are. I started to feel — and maybe this is only how I perceived it, or it's what my ex-wife genuinely expected of me — but to have to change who I am because suddenly I'm supposed to be more responsible or adult or to have to apologize for who I am... It just ultimately wasn't what I was prepared for."

On whether the conventions of marriage crushed what had been a healthy relationship:

"Yeah. That and the unfortunate coincidence that her career was really taking off. And I wasn't able to give up what I'm doing and follow her; like she did for me, in the beginning. But I never knew I was... going to be expected to do that. Sacrifice to me is something you do without expecting something in return. . . So to be expected... to... I guess be judged on how much you love someone by... if you don't do... what they did for you... because they did it for you. It got to a point where, where, I didn't know how to win, I didn't know how to explain... to somebody... that I don't... love... me. So for you to think that if I loved you I would change, or I would not be depressed, or I would want to... you know... give up my work for a moment, when I didn't think of it as work... what you create and who you are has to be the same, or both of them die. So that's what almost happened. My creativity died and I nearly died."

On whether he felt betrayed by the way marriage changed his relationship with Dita:

'That was one of the initial emotional confusions and responses. I felt that I was stupid, that I was taken advantage of. At first. But I wasn't, I wasn't taken advantage of. I realized that."

On whether there is any good way to divorce:

"I think that somebody's always going to suffer more. And I'd think I hurt her more. But only because she didn't understand the amount of pain I went through before it became apparent to her. She didn't understand that my idea of the relationship was suffering for longer than she knew. And so when things ended equally between us, she might have assumed that I didn't care. Not realizing that I had been experiencing it for much longer."

On whether anyone has blamed him for the Virginia Tech shootings yet:

"Not as far as I know. But I wouldn't be surprised if I was blamed. You know, it all seems very manufactured to me. . . in the way that there's candlelight vigils, but I haven't seen anyone crying. Not one single person crying. Someone said to me yesterday: I'm sure you're full of mixed emotions. And I'm not, really. I don't really care. I don't know anyone involved in it. If you lose emotion, and you gain it back, you realise that hate and love are very important to distribute properly. So I'm not going to waste any kind of emotion on things that aren't related to me. It doesn't mean that you have to be insensitive or cold, or have no sort of empathy. It just means that when you do have an emotion, make it extreme."

On whether he is really in love with his current girlfrield, 19-year-old actress Evan Rachel Wood:

"Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely! It's actually easy for me [to fall in love], because it didn't make me cynical. My current relationship gives me the ability to realize where I've always gone wrong in my life, not just in my divorce. To realize I was always thinking: I wish that my life could be like the movies, like 'Bonnie and Clyde' or 'The Hunger' or 'Harold and Maude'. And... it can be! It maybe just takes somebody else who is as fearless as you. It takes a person who will not hesitate. . . Because now, my only definition of romance is that somebody has to be willing to hold hands and jump off the cliff with you. At that point, you don't want to die any more."

On whether he's happy:

"For the most part, yeah. More so than I was a year ago. And definitely more than I was 10 years ago. I feel, like, being in a position where I simply have no reason to apologize for just being myself, and where I don't have to make what I do an apology for me, or a defense of who I am."

On whether he ever talks to Dita:

"Not recently, but um... yup. I mostly just get yelled at for things that I can't change, and don't want to change any more. No. That's not a fair characterization of what, um... But it is pretty true! Ha ha!"

Marilyn Manson's estranged wife Dita von Teese recently gave an interview to the Toronto Star in which she discussed her split with the shock rocker and Manson's new video for "Heart-Shaped Glasses", featuring Marilyn in a love scene with his new girlfriend, Evan Rachel Wood. An excerpt from the chat follows:

Toronto Star: What is the most insulting thing you've ever read about yourself?

Dita: (Laughs) I guess the most insulting thing I've read is that I married for money because I didn't. Didn't make a dime. Didn't plan to. Didn't want to.

Toronto Star: Are you officially divorced?

Dita: Not at all. (Laughs) We're officially still married.

Toronto Star: Any reaction to your ex's new music video "Heart-Shaped Glasses", featuring Marilyn in a raunchy love scene with his new girlfriend, Evan Rachel Wood?

Dita: I have not seen it. I know a lot of people are shocked by it and think I should be shocked but he has put every one of his girlfriends in his videos so it doesn't come as any surprise to me. I was in three videos. Rose McGowan was in two videos.

Toronto Star: Did you two grow apart?

Dita: I wouldn't say growing apart. He's been very vocal about his depression and drug use ... I tried to get him help and he chose not to change his lifestyle and not to get better. And found someone ... (pauses) I think he decided to surround himself with people who want to live that lifestyle as well.

Toronto Star: Are you dating now?

Dita: No, I'm not. I went on a few dates and had a little fun. My first priority is work and having a good time and spending time with my friends and family. I want to be a single girl for a while.

Source: Metal Hammer

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1. GodMachine writes:

Ohh, who gives a f***.

# May 19, 2007 @ 11:31 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. room with a moose writes:

ME!

# May 20, 2007 @ 12:20 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. SexBloodandMetal writes:

on this, I say....

Thats the breaks...Manson's better with a young broad, Dita's better off with herself, and something tells me she's gonna become a lesbian after this is all over...I don't know what it is, but she'll most likely go thru this 'I hate men' phase and become a lesbian, partly to spite Manson...

# May 20, 2007 @ 1:07 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. RICHARD writes:

She is gorgeous and better off without that druggy

She can spend time with me any time

# May 20, 2007 @ 3:39 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. SexBloodandMetal writes:

RICHARD, get a life

# May 20, 2007 @ 12:46 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. Bill writes:

Dita is hot

# May 20, 2007 @ 3:53 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. Lacee writes:

Marilyn you are so much better off without her (but you guys were a good couple )your f***in hot and a good flippen singer =)

# May 21, 2007 @ 8:24 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. alesana writes:

hahaha man you guys suk man koz marilyn suxxx a$$ so it reali dosnt wori me aye...... ohh and leave the DRUGIES ALONE

# May 21, 2007 @ 11:01 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. xXxBODOM OF MY HEARTxXx writes:

imma MM fan but i still don't really give a f*** let the man live his life and let them live theirs...

# May 22, 2007 @ 1:10 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. peeeela writes:

First off everyone knows, you can't change a person. So back! I wouldn't want someone trying to change me.
M.M. You are still the best in everything you do.

# May 23, 2007 @ 8:59 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. twiggyrainencejr. writes:

ok me dont care about the relationship of dita or watever the f*** her name is all i know is m.m. needs to stay with evan cuz i love her too my dad is still trying to change the fact i dont give a ratsass about god or jeseos or whatever my dad needs to learn i love him but i dont love change havent changed since i found out about my alcolhol abuse or how ever he puts it i love my stepmom but shes so not like my real mom my mom lets me be myself and drink and doesnt care as long as im not in jail my dad doesnt get why im a m.m. fan all i know is i have to earn being myself with himwho cares if his daugthter (me) is bi i shure dont give a f*** wat dita says cuz wat i hear is basically she snook away from m.m. coward tell or write if your going to break someone away from you

# May 23, 2007 @ 11:23 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. ChronicMacias writes:

Twiggyrainencejr. do you ever stop to read the part where it says to keep your comments on topic? Honestly, no one gives a sh*t what's going on in your life. Half the people don't even bother reading what you write.

As for Marilyn and Dita... oh well. Let Manson live his life, let Dita live hers. They get that right, famous or not.

And also, for druggies.... hell yea.

# May 23, 2007 @ 2:56 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. Hannah writes:

If it didn't work out it didn't, If they are both happy with their decision it's ok.

# May 24, 2007 @ 12:22 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. cosmic camel clash writes:

Was anyone else struck by how genuine this interview is? I didn't expect Manson to be this honest and straightforward about his issues. Gives everyone who hasn't figured out that artists are just people who do art a good lesson, I think.

# May 25, 2007 @ 11:06 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. ChronicMacias writes:

People shouldn't have to "figure out" that artists are just people. That should be a given, don't you think? Doesn't matter how you look, what you do, what your salary is... we're all the same in the end. Yea?

# May 27, 2007 @ 12:07 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. MissLana writes:

I don't really believe he's being "genuine" as I've seen people put it and I don't see this "current" girlfriend being anymore special than the other one's in the way that there is always a reason his girlfriends "saved" him. In 2005 he said he was on the verge of killing himself but didn't because he was about to get married to Dita, so he went and seen a therapist. He's always gonna go down but always come back up when a new idea springs to his impulses again and again.

And about the age thing, he's been fascinated with Lewis Carroll for well over a year. Lewis was a man fascinated with younger girls and Eat Me Drink Me is a parrallel into Carroll's life. This relationship with Evan won't last. In a few years he'll sacrifice this relationship for something new to support new material and a new image when this one grows stale.

And I wouldn't worry about the drugs, I'd worry about the DRINKING.

# May 27, 2007 @ 2:08 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. chels;)im mansons disposible teen writes:

k i love mazzy manson n if he came on ta me i wud'nt give a munkys bout Dita haha dont get me wrong tho cuz i luv Dita but honestly who'd turn down manson? answer honestly!! on the utha hand Dita's an amazin woman with skin to die for she's 1 of my idols and an amazing burlesque dancer, i love em both i cant believe he gave her up for evan:( k shes alrite quite pretty to but it's dita! dita? or evan? girls and guys think bout that for me. manson's women r disposible i agree with "above" evans no more special to him than the hottie rose mcgowan.......i love em both so im findin it hard to judge either of em..........honestly i think there both great specially manson for his music and art. dont judge dita she was jus v.much in love an if she goes lezza than im waitin' hunny teheeeeee :) u cant change someone as i no, so i dont totally blame him for leaving dita. ppl break up all the time just a shame we cant all get over it (includin' me lol) wen mansons done with evan ill be here disposible or not i still would'nt say no...like i would'nt to dita ther both so gorgus. gd luck to new album manson n gd luck to dita's future p.s mazzy c** to cambride corn exchange ull soooo be loved over here baby!! as for dita to
jus nt at same time hahaaaaaaaa!!!!!

# May 27, 2007 @ 11:19 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. morbidangel writes:

manson's a hot classy goth an one snappy dresser als an amazig singer/artist, dita's a beautiful paled skin gothic burlesque dancer.....ummmmmmmm can someone tell me y there not perfect for eachother if i was manson (i wish i was) i wouldn leave dita for noone

# May 27, 2007 @ 11:28 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. my emo gothic heart is bleeding;) writes:

im with chelsmanson's teen.......there both awesome personally im with dita and manson there both gonna have there fans i just hope that this is'nt goin to affect there fan base as it's so huge!!!!!!!!

# May 27, 2007 @ 11:35 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. ilovevampyrashe'smylezza writes:

i agree with the last 3 comments....
they wont lose me as a fan im in love with dita and manson........makes me wonder tho as to how ppl wud react if it was dita that met somebody first and splashed it on her routines

# May 27, 2007 @ 11:40 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. heylo writes:

chels mansons disposible.you got it in one girrl
jus like u i also love them both there 2 very beautiful people! manson shouldnt have left dita...then again shes prob better off alone for awhile he'l get bored of evan an in a few months or years he'll be bored of her trying to get someone new.......still love u mazzy inspite of everythig

# May 27, 2007 @ 11:46 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. mwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh writes:

manson fancy leaving evan for 1 hot guy an an emogoth girl?????? temptation over rules you so c'mon we're waitin ooohhhh bring dita hahaaaaaaaaaa ur an idiot mazzy but a hot one so get ur hot pinstripe suit on an ur top hat an get over to cambridge corn exchange we'll get on stage with you an have a whole gothic love makin / singing performace? wot d'ya say u up for it???

# May 27, 2007 @ 11:58 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. teletubbies r coming to kill us all apart from me writes:

ooohhh let me join im also an emogoth girl....mmmm a guy wit manson
newayzz i love manson and dita let em live how they choose an hopfully dita will turn lesbian i want her heheeee

# May 27, 2007 @ 12:02 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. i want to b mansons guitarist ther needs to b a woman!!!! writes:

yaaaay!!! cambridge corn exchange needs you mazzy manson! u have soooooooo many fans over here we love ya! gd luck wi evan i hate wot happend wi dita but it happens.....dita is amazing :( y manson why? please realise she's beta than evan....il still wish u both luck cuz i adore u and ur dress sence so classy!!!!! u have ur reasons so im willing to make peace with that.......mwah!! ps. corn xchang next year we'll b waitng to see gig dates in kerrang!!!!!!

# May 27, 2007 @ 12:11 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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25. martin writes:

as for me i could'nt care less

# May 27, 2007 @ 12:15 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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26. freaky freak writes:

well m.m. is still my hero love him he should just go on with life "yea i love manson"

# Jun 7, 2007 @ 2:57 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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27. Jesus is a Cunt writes:

Manson is good and Dita is somewhat of a backstabbing hoe but she's still f***ing HOT!!!!!!!!! OWWWWWW.... call me Dita!!!!!!

# Jun 7, 2007 @ 7:20 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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28. Jesus is a Cunt writes:

oh yeah and whoever has the screen name "my emo gothic heart is bleeding" is a fag and needs to be shot like a dog and hung by their nipples. ;) FAG!!!!!!!!!!!!!

# Jun 7, 2007 @ 7:23 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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29. dark scary bitch writes:

dita is one beautiful women she looks like betty page but younger no f***in groupie or any other chick cant compete with dita but seariously i thought manson and dita made a nice perfect goth couple but DAMN MANSON IS ONE HOT MOTHA f***ER !!!!! ILL RAPE EM HARD LOL

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