Trivium Reportedly Attacked with Urine-Filled Balloons
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Blabbermouth have reported that at Trivium's recent show at Earl's Court, members of the audience subjected Matt Heafy and the band to an attack of words and urine filled balloons. According to the report Heafy reacted furiously to the crowd and explained that what they were doing was 'really wrong' and that if he saw anyone throwing things at the band they would be 'thrown the fuck out'
According to the site "The left hand side of the stage had been rowdy with fervent disapproval for TRIVIUM and their frontman from the beginning of their set, the band being lambasted with cries of 'death to false metal' between each of their songs and throughout the set there was a constant exchange of rude gestures between Heafy and the antagonists. An attempt to block the missiles with a U.S. flag was shouted down by British fans, who angrily turned on the American fans, a group of young men and women who had travelled all the way from the USA to see TRIVIUM perform.”
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10. writes:
hahahahahhahahahahahahah holy sh** that happened at a bodom concert i was at and they opened hahahahahah not the piss part but the part about him sayin he was goin to throw people out wut a f***in p***y some one spit on his face and he wus such a little b**** about it!! f*** trivium!!!!
11. writes:
Look seriously, people who do that sort of thing are just pricks, end of story. I myself do think Trivium is a little overated. But still they do have a certain amount of talent, and anyone who can do what they do deserves a small amount of respect, since its them up there and not us. People who cannot respect talent are just bitter little f**ks.
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12. writes:
The thing is though, they should be well aware that Britain of all places is known for being hostile and especially with the bottles of piss, listen to ANY bands recolection of playing Donington, they'll tell ya if a band is sh** (like Trivium) bottles of piss and f*** knows what else get thrown with full force at them. Sometimes though, it's misunderstood, like when we used to spit on bands as a token of respect but most of the American bands didn't know it was a sign of respect lol. I'll admit it's not the nicest way of showing it, but it's respect nontheless!
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With regards to the spitting thing, it was at its prime from the whole punk scene in the seventies to eighties. I've never been to a gig where the fans have spat on the band and these days I'd know that if I was playing a club and someone spat on me it surely wouldn't be a sign of respect as the punk scene is dead in Britain no matter what any tosser in a Rancid t-shirt tries to tell ya.
22. writes:
Again, ask some that was there. I'll tell you know that the fellas that threw it were not hiding and nor were they alone because while Matt Heafy was trying to look butch and hard you could see him sh**ting himself from his eyes as a good load of fans were openly trying to take him up on hi challenge.
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24. writes:
"f*** off you c*** rag! "
oz you finally stood up for yourself!!! lol ...happy new years guys i finally came back. i was gone for more than two weeks, i was down in los angeles and it felt like summer down there and didnt get the chance to use the internet. anyways that piss in a balloon thing is pretty hilarious. hey oz you guys throw anything you like at girls? do you toss your own sh*t at them? haha some girls like it when guys take a sh*t on their chest, during sexual activity, of course...dont know why im saying this but yea.......
25. writes:
Hahaha hey LM77 good to have you back! Happy new years to you too! (see boys and girls it's not hard for members to get along) And in some cases we do throw sh** at our women. I have never done this before and frankly don't wanna! I really like Cynics idea of riots in the streets by the way! There's nothing I'd love to do more than get an emo/hardcore/metalcore kid and stomp his head American History X style! But I digress...
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27. writes:
I think both sides of the issue are stupid
The idiots hurling piss at them on stage (Really, is it really worth the time out of your day to piss in a balloon? and hurl your piss at someone you don't like?)
And Trivium for acting like prima donnas.
Of course, I did piss in a beer bottle once when I was wasted. And some homeless guy was drunk and mistook my piss for beer, and he drank it when I left the bottle on the ground. He straight chugged it down and I was gonna tell him that it wasn't beer, but the guys stopped me and said "Let him do it, this sh*t is funny!"
28. writes:
To: Oz, so I am doing the right thing buy letting Big Jim throw my load at my girlfiriend...she seems to enjoy it...so she must know that I respect her..??
hahahaha..thanks Azazel...that was a nice story...those drunk homeless guys will drink anything wont they..??
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35. writes:
To diamond oz,
f*** u for that comment u made on mudvayne. mudvayne f***ing rocks. every album they have released has gotten better and better. ill admit when they first came out, i thought they would not last cause at the time they were considered a slipknot ripoff. Once that second album came out it proved that they were their own band and not a ripoff of the knot. And ill go one step better mudvaynes third album was better than slipknots third album, and yes i am a huge slipknot fan also but this is how i feel. im looking forward to mudvaynes next album. each album they have topped themselves. i have a feeling the fourth album will be no different.
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37. writes:
i dont know why cynic but it is a trend for tards, warlockzero never been a mudvayne fan but the first 2 were atleast decent the 3rd wasnt even listenable i have no f***in clue where ur comin from when u say that they get better and better
to the subject is it really necessary to throw urine at a talented band? for me thats a sign that someone has alot of free time on there hands
38. writes:
Hey.....F^ck all of you that are flippin the Oz any sh^t.... He has the right to post whatever the f^ck he wants to write... Just like all you other morons out there.. I wont even say any names, because you know who you are...
I personally dont care for Trivium..so I think this is a little funny..!!
I dont know where or why Mudvayne got brought into this... but I like them alot and have enjoyed all of their albums...
And I really dont care what any of you think....the last time I checked this was a metal discussion/forum NOT a popularity contest...
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39. writes:
Oz, just wanted to say that i totally agree w/ your post #16. I am not a trivium fan at all. However, it takes a lot of balls to write an album like whatever the f*** the new one is called. On the other hand, the album was also a complete rip off/ plagerism/ homage to three decades of metal. Trivium should have stuck to their Ember to Enferno roots in my own opinion, but a lot more people like their new stuff. Point: It was disrespectful to throw piss balloons at them (while also very funny), but i probably would've thrown a few myself had i been there (and heavy is luck i was not, cause i can piss a lot).
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41. writes:
I don't care if trivium is talented or sellouts or whatever, it's just wrong. For anyone trying to start a band now, or who has ever just talked to a crowd or even a group of friend, how would you like it if in the middle of your act or just in the middle of talking to people, someone started yelling at you that they thought you were fake and chucked balloons full of URINE!!!! Yeah it's pertty damn funny when you're talking about a band you hate, but there are people in that band that atleast deserve the dignity of just being booed of stage, not to have piss thrown at them.
42. writes:
People think this is cool really needs to get a f***ing life. It doesn't matter if you like them or not, doing such sh** is pathetic and those f***ers who did that are complete idiots, and the sh**heads who laughs about it too. You dumbasses wouldn't laugh when this happened to a band that you like. People that do such things problably don't have a job or go to school, f*** they don't have a life!!
43. writes:
Hahaha! Oh noes! I seem to have made all the little b****es cry! Whatever will I do! As godlike rightly said, I have the right to post whatever the f*** I want, and I just might. If you wanna start throwing threats around boys and girls then all you've gotta do is get on a plane to England, get a bus down to Swindon and let me know what time you're arriving and I'll come down there and take you up on it! Sound good Captain Caps lock? Everyone I know that likes Trivium is either emo or a complete poser so don't sit there and call me emo or a poser or whatever, I beat emos up for fun and love a good arument with a poser, just look what I'm doing now! Fact: Almost everyone that says Trivium is a real metal band is a poser and has no clue what they're on about. E.G. Some guy I met once said that Trivium was real metal and Napalm Death are fake! I think f***ing not! I didn't like Trivium when they first came out but I just left them to it but when they became what they are now, which is nothing more than a collage of thrash legends that act is if they're something special, I wanted them dead. They're a bit like A7X, they've got the talent but that doesn't stop them being sh**. At least blackdog has the decency to respect my opinion and metalmayhem made me laugh lol.
Also godlike, yes it's fine to throw your John Thomas on ya lady!
47. writes:
Diamond Oz wrote "anyone that likes Mudvayne AND Trivium is bound to be a twat." LOL!!!!!! u dumb b****! i bet ur just mad because i dissed that NASTY british growd! lol and ur prob british to!who throws pee anyways?!! have some freakin respect!
post 36 by warlockzero is right on how i feel about mudvayne! every album they put out has got better and better and their fourth album will be amazing.
and same with Chad Greys and Gregg Tribett's new project Hell Yeah...can't wiat for that one.
48. writes:
thats f uckin awesome. trivium deserves whatever happens to them. leave it to the british to do what alot of people have wanted to do for awhile. i wish i was there to see it. i dont care if your a fan or not, that sh*t is funny as hell, a little immature, but still pretty damn funny
50. writes:
No I'm an Iraqi that sympathizes for the British. Of course I'm f***ing British you nonce! I sure as hell wasn't one of the tossers that went all the way here rom America when they could have just waited to see Trivium do a headline slot in America. Plus I stand up for myself and the Great British people because I don't like ignorant c***s like you slagging us off. As I said, I like America and I like most o the American people here. Unfortunately they've obviously got some queers over there judging from the way you speak.
"The nasty British crowd!"
"British people are nasty and dumb"
"Throw their pee"
Jesus Christ, what are you like five? Either below ten or a homo with that language. Votes please!
51. writes:
lol godlike, baby gravy.....hahaha.....to mudvayne fan, no sh*t hes british, even if i didnt know he was i would be able to tell by his post 6. what the F*ck do you know about respect anyways, heres your own words "...god damn British people are nasty and dumb!" and yes guys from jackass WOULD do something like that but its too mature for them.
54. writes:
haha mudvayne that makes it all the worse. if you were american you would have an excuse for being retarded but now you dont have one. thanks for giving yourself away. and who says sh*t like "throw pee" damn your words make you sound like a little 12 year old!!!!!
56. writes:
Diamond Oz you really are the most self obsessed, f***ed up, egotistical p**** i have ever come across. i myself am not a trivium fan but at least i can agree that no band who goes out to make a living doing something they enjoy deserves to have f****n piss thrown at them. if you boo they'll get the point! it's people like you that f****n ruin live music for the rest of us by doing stuff like that, unless of course your one of these pretencious d***s that quietly watches the show and saves his b****ing for the internet where you can act as big and as hard as you want. actually the way you act makes you sound like more of a f***ing immature, brainless football hooligan than a decent music fan. sort yourself out. As for Trivium (the matter at hand), they are probably more talented than anyone in this place, both individually and as a band, including myself. and they dont rip of metallicas solos because triviums are far more catchy, harder and kirt hammet just plays crap licks using a wah pedal, some legend he is.
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I wouldn't be so self obsessed if I wasn't so f***ing great! Haha! Plus I will tell you now that I am no pretentious tosser. Pretentious tossers are the people that go to Starbucks in their Che Guevara t-shirts and claim to be commies. By the way, alot of football hooligans are actually quite smart. Granted I know a few twats but for the most part their decent and intelligent people. By the way, drag the waters, what have you got against British people? We ain't done anything to you lot in over 200 years! I could if I wanted to get really nasty and say a few facts that would really piss Britain haters offbut that would prove jacksons point and make me look like a pretentious nob.
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65. writes:
It's not a matter of British or American "manners"....
The sect of people who screech "death to false metal" at everything that isn't Maiden are a sad, sorry lot. They would just as quickly dismiss Unlord as Limp Bizkit, which I find hilarious.
Trivium aren't for all metal fans (too poppy, painlessly accessible and jam packed with childish lyrics and halfhearted anger) but it's catchy and technically impressive, even heavy at times....
Every now and then thats what the mood (or company) calls for....rather than say Dimmu Borgir or Hate Eternal.
Trivium aren't sellouts. They did their melodic little demi-thrash from the get go, they just abandoned that metalcore yelp thing.
If showgoers wanna boo, more power to em, they payed to get in....but piss balloons are gradeschool.
66. writes:
A good point would be that Maiden often seem to book acts that their core fan base seem to hate, plenty of Trivium fans went to this gig and left after Trivium which p***ed me off as there were alot of people I knew that wanted to get to this gig but couldn't. However when I saw Maiden three years ago they had Funeral For A Friend as support and they were also met with alot of hostility. As I said before though, I think this is to make the Maiden fans enjoy Maiden more. Although if you read what some people were saying on the forums of www.planetrock.com then they weren't too impressed. Maiden themselves were a bit disapointing that night if truth be told but I felt more disapointed when I saw them in 2005 on the Early Days tour. Not enough variation in the set.
68. writes:
FYI mudvayne i am an american so i can say what i want to them. and i didnt say they were retarded, learn how to read!!!! you are a little 12 year old arent you??.....i said if you were an american and you were retarded than you would have an excuse. understand???? and the US is quickly becoming the stupidest nation if you look at statistics. now go sit down at your desk and study like the little 12 year old you should be before your mom spanks your little ass.
70. writes:
Diamond Oz u r one sad little british person!
LiquiMetal77 what KIND of f***ing idiot makes fun of his own country?! maybe u should move in with ur good british buddy Oz! u seem to get a long with him real well!....beware though man, those SICK brits will throw piss at ya!
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Hahaha! Alot of Americans I've spoken to don't like the way things are being run over there and obviously I don't understand but can you tell me a bit about what's going on over there? Over here we get alot of people slagging off George Bush but in all honesty they only do it because Green Day tells them to.
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America's citizens are becomin stupidier and stupidier everyday because they idolize people like Kevin Federline and Paris Hilton people who have no talent and are famous because of a marriage and her status as a whore, this country is becomin lazier and fatter as days roll by because people in america dont know how to say no and dont know wat is good for them so they stop tryin and get fired from there job or drop out of school and end up a bum because they heard that someone successful like Jim Carrey dropped out and think why cant i?
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76. writes:
Whatever RememberMetal? It's seems to me your just trying to hide your fanboyism for Trivium, you did give their album 4/5 remember?
"Every now and then thats what the mood (or company) calls for....rather than say Dimmu Borgir or Hate Eternal."
So wrong again. I listen to Death, Black, Thrash, Doom, Power Metal, Funeral Doom, Blackened Thrash, Blackened Death, Death Thrash (and by that I mean Possessed etc) Early Grindcore, Heavy Metal, Technical Metal, Progressive Metal, Drone, Shred, NWOBHM, Folk Metal etc, the whole thing, they're all metal.
Metalcore, Nu-Metal etc are watered down fusion genres and a seperate entity from metal. Looks at wikipedias article. Look at Encyclopaedia Metallum. Most importantly look at the Metal community.
I agree that piss balloons (while maybe funny as) is a little immature but it's a sign of just how serious things are. Death To False Metal (a slogan that more would be chanted at anyone who isn't Manowar to correct you) will be the words that will see us render a gap between metal and anything else and I'm glad to see the tide finally breaking.
77. writes:
We seem 2 of gone a little off the subject here guys, I think it has just turned into a war of people who like trivium and people who hate trivium, I personally like trivium their new record is good, as for the piss incident I think this was totally out of order, its fine to hate a band a boo and say what you want about them but to throw piss is absolutely pathetic, if you dont like a band dont watch them for gods sake, why are people criticising matt heafy for standing uo to these yobs/hoolligans/chavs, at least he had the balls to confront them, did you all expect him to just stand their and do nothing, if he did this you would all slag him off for been a wimp/p***y or whatever, if any of you lot were in a band and this happened to you im sure you wouldnt just stand there if you had some respect for yourself, u would do the same thing, matt was standing up for himself and the band, its what you have to do in life if you have any respect, quite frankly matt and the rest of trivium dont care one bit for all the haters, your opinion is meaningless to them, but you can all say what you want as everyone is entitled to an opinion but I think your all just wasting your time guys, think about it guys is it really worth it, im not going to say anymore or get in some sort of silly argument cause as I said before its a waste of time, and by the way im english
78. writes:
We seem 2 of gone a little off the subject here guys, I think it has just turned into a war of people who like trivium and people who hate trivium, I personally like trivium their new record is good, as for the piss incident I think this was totally out of order, its fine to hate a band a boo and say what you want about them but to throw piss is absolutely pathetic, if you dont like a band dont watch them for gods sake, why are people criticising matt heafy for standing up to these yobs/hoolligans/chavs, at least he had the balls to confront them, did you all expect him to just stand their and do nothing, if he did this you would all slag him off for been a wimp/p***y or whatever, if any of you lot were in a band and this happened to you im sure you wouldnt just stand there if you had some respect for yourself, u would do the same thing, matt was standing up for himself and the band, its what you have to do in life if you have any respect, quite frankly matt and the rest of trivium dont care one bit for all the haters, your opinion is meaningless to them, but you can all say what you want as everyone is entitled to an opinion but I think your all just wasting your time guys, think about it guys is it really worth it, im not going to say anymore or get in some sort of silly argument cause as I said before its a waste of time, and by the way im english
79. writes:
English? Good man! I have no problem with anything you've said there whatsoever. You do make a good point or a few but as I said before, it was the way he tried standing up for himself that p***ed me off. He tried being all witty and sh** and it was just sad. If he'd had said summit like, "We respect that you don't like our music, but we have a job here tonight, we were booked to SUPPORT Iron Maiden and thats what we're gonna do. Please save your urine for the toilets" I wouldn' have minded but he acted like the crowd was at a Trivium show and just wouldnt acknowledge that it wasn't his night. The only thing I can take out from what you said there is the thing about "your opinion is meaningless to them" thats mainly why they piss me off because they ignore too many people. I stopped reading metal magazines purely coz of bands like Trivium and BFMV going "Well Maiden and Metallica like us so we piss on what the public thinks" every issue. But at least you've shown that there's Trivium fans with some intelligence with your last post.
80. writes:
I was just reading the news on TRIVIUM,THEY SUCK JUST BY LOOKING AT THE BAND!!As for d-oz,I like the cuts you have typed out.I have not herd the band , I will as soon as I leave my desk.I'm sure the bargain bin will have it there for .99 cents.Bye the way metal is:THY ANTICHRIST,MAYHEM,EMPORER,POSSESSED,IMMOLATION,VOIVOD,etc......NOT TRIVIUM,NOT MUDVAYNE,NOT THE CRAP THATS COMING OUT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!1
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81. writes:
Cynic
I wouldn't be "hiding" so called "fanboyism" very well if I gave Trivium a 4 star review now would I?
Truth is they excel at what they do whether I like them or not.
I'll bet that stretching back through the annals of media critique, there have been critics who have given favorable reviews to records they would never dream of buying.
One can see the good in something even if ones tastes deviate from the work being discussed.
I don't have anything invested in Trivium, including money or fandom. However, I am glad to learn that we see eye to eye on the whole piss balloon thing. It shows a frame of logic that listing genres and citing wikipedia does not....
As for the Manowar correction: "Thank you"....Not that I don't know the whole false metal bit backwards and forwards but this whole event took place at a MAIDEN SHOW, where "death to false metal" was screamed at the band by Maiden fans.
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83. writes:
It is a sign of corruption that I must point things out so bluntly. You can ignore the chants at a concert and even wikipedia, as prone to idiocy as any proffesional view (possibly less) is a voice to the people. I'm at the brink of disbelief at the state of metal (or what people view as a metal scene) today and if local scenes weren't as strong as they are I would probably give up.
"One can see the good in something even if ones tastes deviate from the work being discussed."
I agree, I prefer Handel over Mozart for example, and Mozarts prowess is undeniable. Even so I can't see the sense in your review. All music in its respected subjectivity could be viewed as great, its a critics job to critique for their audience, not pander to those who may just enjoy it. And it seems very much to me in your review and post that you are trying to defend them with out letting slip the words that you enjoy their music.
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well lets be serious a band with a couple bucks and a recognizable (in terms of exposure in the "scene") name wouldnt want to get in a brawl with an unruly fan now would they? its called lawsuits, many people would find the cheapest excuse to make some money.
and in the event that bands were to fight willingly the venue would likely take actions against them (damages or any kind of mess that arises from that). thats not too mention that the size of a crowd in any show (depending how many were involved, in this case Oz would know) could easily overpower 5 guys on a stage.
87. writes:
Was at that concert, and decided to queue up for a t shirt rather than see trivium as i absolutly hate their music and have as soon as i first heard their music.
To be honest i laughed long and hard when i heard that they had been bombarded with piss balloons. They were not the band that should have supported Iron Maiden, A large ammount of people have said this through out the tour, although i would have been happy if Maiden had done what Down did and had no support at all.
According to my mates who did sit/stand and saw the trivium set, it was apparently a poor performance and they wished they were at the bar. none of them were near enough to throw anything at the stage.
I can see the same thing happening to Bullet for my valentine at Wacken this summer.
89. writes:
I was at this show and one idiot threw a bottle with urine, not a balloon. Not only dangerous but were talking bodily fluids. Matt's response to this idiot was "we don't come to your work and throw sh** at you and your throwing piss on Iron Maidens Stage if you don't like us fine don't listen but don't disrepsect Iron Maiden. The crowd cheered when Matt made his comment which was definately warrented. Fortunately for the old fart that threw the bottle moved out of the front area before someone kicked the crap out him.
90. writes:
To metalmayhem: I'm not sure if you're taking the piss or not but just to be on the safe side, I am English yes lol. Jackrum were abouts were you at the show? Was you standing or seating? I was also gonna say that I thought it was a bottle that was thrown at them and not baloons but I thought I could well be wrong here lol.
93. writes:
Its plain to see that there are imbeciles all over the world.. Its just too bad that America has to have so many of them...
I got nothing against anyone, no matter where your from or what color you are....
Like I said before, I am not prejudiced, I have color TVs...
94. writes:
Being British Rules! and as much i like American bands such as Metallica & Megadeth, bands like Iron Maiden, Venom and to some extent The Clash and other old punk bands make me proud of the music Britain has produced, so if you wanna slag off Britain, think of all the defining and inspirational bands you're slagging off along the way
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Bushrepresents the US and he makes us look bad in front of other countries. and the people here have a way too high morale level and a way too low moral status. im immature myself, but alot of americans are below the point of "immature" and america has so many of these imbeciles because they move in from other parts of the world thinking that they are allowed to do whatever they want, escape and feel free to act idiotic, and that no one gives a sh*t about anything. and as i said before i cant stand prejudice bullsh*t....im 1/16 black and 1/16 white....
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97. writes:
Cynic
Brace yourself I'm wordy.
Theres little sense in debating the fact that watered down metal is in such surplus today, but thinking back to the 80's and 90's, it was just as bad or worse...Bands like Slipknot, Poison (or for the purpose of our discussion, Trivium) cast a shadow over what metal is, has been and is presently. But I think the overhyped, commercially viable acts do serve as a gateway.
More to the point of our discussion, I find that Trivium is a more effective "Intro to Metal" band than the nu-metal, metalcore, screamo set. I believe the bands that I started with (Metallica, Megadeth and Pantera) are more suited to the task than what kids are listening to today. Those bands were more available when I was a kid then they would be to an 8-14 year olds today starting out. It's the odd kid that starts his fascination with metal at Emperor, Naplam Death or Sunn O)))
With concern to my "love" of Trivium. On a computer playlist of roughly 4,500 songs only six tracks come from Trivium.
I don't fancy myself a musical expert, but I do aspire towards a greater understanding of the music I enjoy and sometimes bubblegum bands are part of the equation. Nothing I've stated in my posts or reviews are at odds with eachother...I don't deny Triviums use of pop sense and I clearly state that metal purists won't be moved.
However, it is entirely possible to appreciate tracks from "The Crusade" and "The Monad of Creation" in one sitting.
I suspect little I'm saying is new to you and you'll search for flaws to expose (Manowar slogans used by Maiden fans) for the purposes elevating your forthright and condescending tone. I'm merely trying to reach common ground with someone who is trying to dictate my grasp of the subject and even my own taste to me.
This wouldn't be worth the time it took to type if I didn't think that you were an informed, intelligent and genuine fan of the music.
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Diamond Oz i was standing, had mates standing and sitting so i got a fairly good idea of what happened. balloon, bottles, no matter, either way its Trivium.
was pretty far back on the right middle on the arena. but even a short arse like me could see everything without looking at the screens.
I reckon in a few years no one will remember trivium, Roadrunner will have found another metal band to promote as the saviours of everything metal and this seasons fad will become last seasons fad, no one will care about them.
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100. writes:
First off, I didn't mean to be condescending, the Manowar comment came out totally obnoxious, it was supposed to be an injoke to anyone who knew their stuff (I just bought Hail to England so forgive me.)
The difference with say Bullet For My Valentine and Megadeth however is not in the extremity of the music, it's the quality. I hope that kids today will use the greats of metal to step into our universe rather than the trends of the current day.
Anyway, I hope your right. I'm only 19 so possibly my perspective of the state of metal is skewed, maybe this is how it has and always will be. The mainstream will always oppose the music I love and I will always oppose the mainstream. Although possibly now I might do it constructively instead of being an a$$hole.
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101. writes:
Cynic
Your no a$$hole, and you're just a bit (6 years) younger than me. When I was your age, my taste was not nearly as advanced as yours...you may well have a lead on me for all I can tell.
Metal in the truest sense will always be on the outside but that is the nature of the beast.
In my advancing years (and bitterness) I've learned that few people have the patience or openmindedness for metals extemities and the darker quarters of the genre weed out the people who aren't willing to broaden their horizons.
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104. writes:
I was at the 22nd december show, and witnessed all this. I'm not a fan of trivium, but throwing p*ss at bands is retarded. its also cowardice, you're in the middle of a crowd and the band can't see you. yeah very brave. Matt Heafy was right to scold the crowd for it. and the people who gave the american fans crap were just as bad.
And stop with the anti-british comments. you make yourself look like morons.
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Yeah, the thing is, no-one wants to listen Alex 'cause Trivium suck balls. And with regards to the Fire to the Flies solo, yes it can get more metal than that. Alot more! Have a listen to Slayer, Sepultura, Anthrax, Testament, Exodus, Kreator... well you get the idea and you might find that those bands out metal Trivium everytime! Sweet Jesus even Testaments Return To Serenity was more metal than Trivium!
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113. writes:
LOL !!!! Yes this is all true.I still dig this band though.Call me crazy.Then againe I probably listen to lot's of stuff you guy's don't.(my tastes are extensive to say the least.)Anyway the piss thing is still horribly desgustingly horrible....I told my girl about it right before she took a nap....She had a full on nightmare...The dream was about the two of us makeing love & instead of ejaculateing inside of her I urinated.Sh woke up screaming.The neighbor's thought I was beating her.Absolutely hillarious.
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120. writes:
I'm not talking (too much) sh** about Trivium, hell I defend their value as the best gateway band of this generation....Certainly more true to form than say Avenged Sevenfold, Limp BIzkit or Poison...The bottom of the barrel of gateway bands but also the best selling....
Their singer needs to sit down with some classic literature, a dictionary and a thesaurus...chug some vocab enhancing pills and find something that really pisses him off....
He's using headlines for 75% of his lyrics and that kind of anger only goes so far, for so long...let puberty finish running it's course and pick up a 3 pack a day habbit of Marlboro reds....
Then and only then does Trivium have a chance of actullay impressing their critics, who ofcourse are immovable at this point anyway.
122. writes:
There is a fairly recent CoF thread to bash them on alex, go find it.
I cannot see Trivium being a major force in music any time in the future, i just cannot, I think they are far too over hyped and the song lyrics are playing towards a teen crowd who, once they get older, will have moved on and be as embarressed to admit they liked trivium as i am to say i used to like RATM...
RememberMetal? has a good point about the singer needing to expand what he uses for lyric inspiration, but even if he does expand into something more substantial i cant see them surviving once the current trend turns away from trivium and the rest of that style of metal and on to something else...
124. writes:
My dear Sir I never went away!!! Now then, this business of throwing ones own URINE at someone trying to do their job! It's downright bloody..... normal. Why just last week I removed one of my employees by having my assistant hurl a mug of steaming cold urine hat him! When one can't do a job, one must be removed! In such case, I would imagine that someone had recently watched my television programne where I pretend to hire people and then discard them by doing as I previously stated. Good show old bean!
127. writes:
hey if someone doesnt like trvivium, you dont need to say they suck or you hate them, if you dont like a band then dont talk sh** about them cuz chances are they are better than you, plus there are a million bands out there that you can listen to, so find something you like and dont talk sh** about other bands, and this goes for any band not just trivium, plus anyone who sais "oh yeah i used to like trivium, but their new cd sucks" well they changed their sound , theyre musicians, they like to write new music, let them do what they want to do, and many people talk sh** about maidens new album, they say it doesnt sound like the old stuff, well they changed their sound a little also, they want to write new things, if you would like iron maiden to stay in the 1980's then your obviously not a musician who can understand why bands do the things they do, so stop talking sh**, and keep your comments to yourselves
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132. writes:
this thread is just alot of useless slander but ill post here anyways. as far as the piss incedent, any stupid imbusile who would throw piss on a band should be shot. this band puts alot effort and time in their music and are just trying to make a living. if you dont like them leave and come back for maiden. and as far as the way heafy acted in response, what the f*** are you gonna do? its one guy against whats sounds like atleast a dozen, is he supposed to get in a fist fight with 20 people. at least he tried to act a little professional unlike the immature little d***s, throwing piss at people like children. if someone threw piss on me i would be f***ing enraged, but not enough to get in a fight when im outnumbered 20 to 1.
and as far as triviums music, yea i happen to like it quite a bit. its heavy, technical and has good solos. the vocals and lyrics could definitley use some work, and they could tighten up the songwriting a bit. ill admit i was unsure about the crusade at fist but i have really warmed up to it, its actually a pretty good album. and anyone who says they sold out and that they just copy 80s thrash can go to hell. they play thrash music, they dont copy classic thrash riffs. thats like saying slayer, metallica, megadeth, kreator, and exodus all just copied each other. no, they wrote their own stuff just in the same style. trivium are bringing heavy riffs and guitar solos back to the mainstream, there is nothing wrong with their music and if dont like it just keep that to yourself and dont be an immature little kid about it.
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136. writes:
Alex.... writes:
"I think i should shut up =\"
awwwww poor little thing. it makes me almost wanna feel sorry for you. haha jk.
hey Oz, your post 114 have the same ip address as 119, and your post 128 the same with 134. do you know lord cashington?? are you LC? or is LC pretending to be you?
139. writes:
I was there with Diamond Oz on the night of that gig. To be fair to Trivium they put on a good show, but nothing excuses what they do and the music they make. There's a lot of talent there but it's all wasted purely due to artistic laziness. If you were to take the last 25 years of heavy metal and cram it tightly into Matt Heafy's arse then shake him about a bit and blast him with praise from the press and some metal legends, there you have it, the most blatant plagiarism of the 21st century so far. The only thing that saved me from walking out was to lie back, close my eyes and pretend I was at a Metallica concert. That, and the fact that I was waiting for Iron Maiden who as always f***in rocked. I was also amused at Matt Heafy's sweep picking. That was very lol. Seriously though I can hear the talent there, especially with their drummer & the other guitarist. f*** it if they just kicked Matt Heafy's arrogant arse out they might not be so bad. Before they were just a sh** band with some good lead guitar. Now they're just another kick in the balls to my love of the metal scene. Granted though, RememberMetal? makes a great point, they really are a great gateway-to-metal band, and to be honest I think ironically that they're gonna end up getting more people into some proper thrash metal. Anyways, Trivium suck, i thought it was hilarious that they got piss thrown at them, we all had a jolly good laugh and I shut the f*** up.
155. writes:
Actually your right...The Paris Hilton movie sucked..but she did too..and that was mighty nice to see...she actually looked like she was enjoying that meat pipe she was smokin...
yeah, she is as dumb as a box of rocks...but I'd still let her polish Big Jim's helmet.....and I would let her hang around, just to look at....but, if she spoke, I would have to slap her...!!!!
156. writes:
rather have Paris Hilton than that utter feckwit Chantelle aka Paris Travellodge...
although i agree with the above, if she spoke i'd slap her, althoguh i might have something blunt and heavy in my hand when i do.
sod it, stick them all in the big brother house and gas them.
Trivium included :P
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165. writes:
I think you'll find post 159 that since they were in Britain, they were here to play for us Brits. The fact they did a sh** job isn't our countrys fault :) The thing is though that they're doing their own headline tour here in March I think and I bet anything they'll all say how great and wonderful the tour was. As I've said before, it was Maiden's show. Worse things have happened to better bands before. f***ing hell one year at Donnington while Motorhead were playing someone chucked a flare at Phil Taylor! Bit worse than piss I think you'll agree. Plus look at the sh** that Slayers support acts ALWAYS get. As I've said before, Maiden have a habbit of booking acts that most Maiden fans hate. I still believe this is to make them look better.
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172. writes:
Well after reading the previous 170 comments i suddenly feel like my IQ has gone up by triple figures.
Personally, I hate trivium, and that is just because of Matt Heafy. He's a self absorbed mindless drone that has a single goal in mind - to look after number one.
Personally i think its a waste of piss.
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1. triv writes:
f*** that sh**