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Slayer To Sue Demiricous?

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Metal Maniacs magazine recently conducted an interview with SLAYER members Kerry King and Tom Araya. A couple of excerpts from the chat follow:

Metal Maniacs: Kerry, you're notorious for keeping up with many of thew new extreme bands…

Kerry: "I like to know more about who we should be touring with and stuff like that. I'm very selective. There's a lot of good bands, but there's a lot of bands that sound just like everybody else. I like the ones that are unique. Without sticking my foot in my mouth, my favorite new band is DEMIRICOUS and they sound just like us. I love those guys. They're making up their own tunes, and yeah, they sound like us, but they're good songs. I saw them play and they're outta control! It was great."

Tom: "Kerry was praising them so I listened to tem and I was thinking, 'Can we sue somebody for plagiarism?' [Laughs] I even asked my manager that. I was like, 'Can we sue someone for sounding way too much like us?' They're way too… way too SLAYER. [Laughs] I even played it for someone and they said, 'If I didn't know any better and you were singing, this would be SLAYER.' I'm not too hip on that."

Metal Maniacs: But can that kind of worship be flattering in a way?

Tom: "To me, it's not. Flattery is when someone creates something but it's their own. When you fucking sound just like the band you love, that's not flattery… that's copyright infringement. [Laughs]

"Kerry really pays attention and is aware of the up-and-coming bands and he's on top of the [heavy] music scene. I like all music. Kerry's really into the metal. I'm not always on top of all that. I only hear what people send to me, you know? Sometimes I get discs and they just sit there. I don't even put 'em on unless someone says to me, 'You have to listen to this.' If it's really groundbreaking and new, and it's something you hear from various people, eventually you take the time and go, 'I need to listen to this; there's too much talk about it.' Unless it's something recommended by a number of people, I won't listen to it. I like music in general. I listen to all kinds of music, and that has a big influence, I think, in how I write lyrically and what I like musically."

Metal Maniacs: Do you think you'll ever play another record in its entirety live like the band did with "Reign in Blood"? "South of Heaven" perhaps?

Tom: "It's becoming a trendy thing now. I don't know. We have some really cool albums, but I don't think we'll ever do that again."

Kerry: "Probably not. And I just don't like enough songs off 'South of Heaven'."

Metal Maniacs: Really? That's interesting.

Kerry: "I hate 'Cleanse the Soul'. That's one of the black marks in our history, in my book. I just fucking think it's horrible. [Laughs] I hate the opening riff. It's what we call a 'happy riff.' It's just like 'la-lala-la-la-la.' I can't see myself playing it, but after that, where it gets heavier, I like that section. If we ever did a medley, I'd put part of that in there. Like 'Reign in Blood' is short — 10 songs in 30 minutes — it desn't take up much of your set. I would consider 'Seasons in the Abyss', but that's a little longer, so you're alienating anybody that may hate that record. 'Seasons' is 40 minutes long. You'd have to cut out two other songs [from the set] and people might be like, 'Damn, I wish they would've played that. But now that we did 'Reign', so many people are doing the same thing we did. I heard DIO did one ['Holy Diver']."

Metal Maniacs: ANTHRAX is doing "Among the Living" on a few dates this summer.

Kerry: "Yeah, I heard about ANTHRAX. METALLICA did 'Master of Puppets'. I'm like, 'C'mon, man, can't you guys get some original fucking ideas?' [Laughs]"

Source: Blabbermouth

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23 Comments on "Slayer To Sue Demiricous?"

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1. Vayne Theories writes:

Come on Tom, dont get all Lars-ish on us. :(

# Aug 15, 2006 @ 9:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. BLACKDOG writes:

Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery although some people don't see it that way.

# Aug 15, 2006 @ 9:27 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. Diamond Oz writes:

I agree with Kerry. There was alot of stuff on South Of Heaven that I didn't like either. I loved the title track and a few others but some of it bored the sh** outta me. And I hate saying sh** like that about Slayer.

# Aug 15, 2006 @ 9:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. DeathInEye writes:

I must admit that I agree with Tom, imitation is not flattering. There's a difference between inspiration and imitation. Inspiration is when you write something based off of another thing, but it's still entirely your creation. Imitation is when take your inspiration and strive to duplicate it, which isn't creative in any way except maybe business-wise, depending on how you go about it. But I definitely wouldn't sue someone over this. I'd allow the listeners to make their own choice.

# Aug 15, 2006 @ 10:34 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. everneed writes:

i dig where Tom's coming from. it's one thing to hear a pioneer of a sound, be inspired to do your own version of it and add your own twist. it's another thing to copy a sound near exactly. that's why alot of these hardcore bands are no good. once you hear a sound over and over again, no matter how good the initial inovation was, it stops being exciting.

# Aug 15, 2006 @ 10:40 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. evilcheeba writes:

It is difficult to determine where inspiration begins and imitation ends. Sometimes if you believe a band sounds like another, are told it or read it in an article, no matter if it does or not your ears will make it true. In this instance I don't have the facts so I'm not passing judgement, I'm just speaking generally. Same goes true for writers, artists as well as musicians. When it comes to whether or not someone is inspired or imitating, especially in music, it is almost impossible to determine. There are many bands where if you substitute a lead singer they could be a different band.

# Aug 15, 2006 @ 11:00 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. DeathInEye writes:

I actually find it quite easy musically. There's the "it" factor. You can't explain what "it" is, but you have "it," you'll stand out more, if you don't, you'll tend to blend in with everyone else who doesn't have "it". Like how Everneed said, you'll either add your own twist, or not, and I believe that draws an even more blatant line between imitation and inspiration. You get inspired to create your own music, not someone elses.

# Aug 15, 2006 @ 11:16 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. deathbringer writes:

Considering Demiricous is even more extreme than Slayer on a number of songs, Slayer could learn a thing or two from them :-). But overall, Slayer have the stage presence, experience and catalog down.

# Aug 15, 2006 @ 11:25 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. Terminator writes:

i though pissing people off was slayer's job?

# Aug 16, 2006 @ 12:37 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. Necrophiliac writes:

Considering the extreme sh**iness of everything Slayer has done since Abyss, I find it rather amusing they think this new band is trying to be them. Put on Hell Awaits, and then put on anything after Abyss. Slayer were good, but now they just belt out paint by numbers bullsh**. Speaking of coming up with something original, practice what you preach, lads.

# Aug 16, 2006 @ 1:41 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. BoltThrower writes:

I haven't heard Demiricous but do they sound like old Slayer? If so, then there's definitely a place for them because Slayer hasn't sounded like Slayer since Divine Intervention.

# Aug 16, 2006 @ 8:51 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. eddie is real writes:

hey anthrax did among the lining at my date bc they where on tour with rob zombie and he couldnt make some of the dates so they did something special for the dates he couldnt make that was my undrerstanding of it idk if im wrong or not but thats what i heard

# Aug 16, 2006 @ 1:45 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. rulin kmadd writes:

From what i heard on indymetal.com i think tom was just bullshiitin' around. Demiricous
has other parts in the sound as well i can hear some Pantera and earlier Metallica influences on
One(Hellbound) but on my selfish side i wished they would incorporate their blackened Death metal
sound that they had previously on their 2003 and 2004 demos on their next cd
believe you me if you get a chance on getting a hold of those demos get em it'll blow you
away! Trust me.

# Aug 16, 2006 @ 3:37 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. metalmayhem writes:

deathbringer is right on the money in post #8. demericous is more extreme than slayer most of the time. they definitely sound similar, but demericous has so much more "death" metal in their tunes....and they also f***in rule.....just thought i would add that

# Aug 16, 2006 @ 5:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. metalmayhem writes:

sorry, "demiricous"

# Aug 16, 2006 @ 5:36 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. Tharsh banger writes:

Dose anyone think that there are diffrent ways to play metal, but still have the same crunch like the classic thrash and death metal bands?
Or has every thing been done and further progress will make your music sound like crap?
What if you just take the concept?

(I pull my hair out over this every day or when I'm writeing a song)

# Aug 16, 2006 @ 5:53 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. Bleeding out writes:

A lot of metal that I paly for people who are not fans of the music tell me it sounds the same. I mean think about all the bands out there and all the rest that have come and gone, how many more times can you make the E chord sound heavy for different it's all has been done, but only a few bands like Slayer still make it sound oh so good!!!!

# Aug 16, 2006 @ 8:15 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. Red_Chord writes:

Well dudes, except for the voice, I admit that they sound EXACTLY like Slayer, and in my book there can only be ONE Slayer, so screw those guys for making music with ni inspiration, no original sound...but congrats for the rippoff, it's pretty well done..LOL

# Aug 17, 2006 @ 10:46 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. aj writes:

I'd love to see all of South of Heaven live. On the holy unliance tour i finally got to see them play Silent Scream live (one of my favorite Slayer tunes) and i would love to see Live Undead and Behind The Crooked Cross. I've seen Slayer 6 times and i don't think i've ever seen those songs live.

# Aug 18, 2006 @ 10:41 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. sarcster writes:

Hey remember how much of "Show No Mercy" sounded like Maiden. A whole lot of that album!

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 9:17 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. Jerry Schultz writes:

you f***ing idiots dont know what your talking about. slayer started in 1982 when f***ing rick springfield was #1 on the charts. they STARTED thrash metal and if you asses dont think christ illusion dont remind you of their earlier sh** than you must have spent too many years with your heads next the the marshal stacks my friends because they are right on top as far as i can see, f***ing in their 40's and still kicking a$$ over bands half their age.
imitation is not flattery. you want to flatter someone do their cover and f***ing dedicate it to them; dont copy them because then you nothing but f***ing a lounge singer.........

# Aug 22, 2006 @ 11:52 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. that_one_guy_42 writes:

i agree with kerry i liked seasons alot better than south of heaven i think seasons is there 2nd best album next to reign in blood

# Aug 23, 2006 @ 12:10 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. sarcster writes:

So then is Slayer doing a cover album a rip-off of Garage Days/ 5.98EP? Cant' have it both ways guys.

# Sep 4, 2006 @ 12:38 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address

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