Interview
I.R.A.T.E.'s Erik Ulrich: Project Independent Tour
On Tuesday, April 18, the metal act I.R.A.T.E. will be appearing at Torrance, California's Tower Records, celebrating their new album release entitled "Brothers of the Same Struggle", which will be a 2-cd set, featuring a compilation of twenty unsigned bands on the nationwide Project Independent Tour. This summer, with the support of MySpace, Jagermeister Music and Tower Records, I.R.A.T.E. will be embarking onto the nation's largest independent music campaign ever. I am so pleased to have had my questions answered by their lead singer, Erik Ulrich.
Rocket: So I see I.R.A.T.E. stands for Infinite Rebellion Against The Establishment and you guys are hooked up with Project Independent. Obviously this band is all about not conforming to the corporate music business, right? Why?
Erik: For starters, we ARE Project Independent… and we are using Project Independent to create our own way of doing business. We have several years of experience that has included falling flat on our faces. We’ve been burned at every level by everyone that we’ve come in contact with…. Labels, promoters, venues, you name it. It seems like the only people you can count on are the other bands, the guys that understand just how hard it is on the road. The cool thing about Project Independent is that we are in control, so if things go wrong we have no one to blame but ourselves. We’re totally cool with that.Rocket: Right on, bro. When did I.R.A.T.E. first form as a band? And please give us a quick rundown of all the band members.
Erik: The original line-up formed in ’95, but we’ve gone thru some pretty major changes since then. The original line-up consisted of Edgar Gonzalez on guitar, Chris Lafferman on bass and Sean Hutto on drums. After we recorded our first album, we felt that we needed to add a second guitarist, so we added Clint Devlin for our first tour. After the tour Clint went back to Michigan, and Edgar was replaced by Rudy Hewlett. A little while after that, Chris and Sean quit and Sean O’Connor and Jason Berglund came onboard. Sean fuckin rocked but had some tendonitis shit going on, and he was in pain all of the time. He knew he couldn’t play but wanted to stay involved, so our manager hooked him up. Eric Buell replaced Sean and the rest is history. So yeah… this bands gone thru some major changes. I think as kids, we were all subject to certain misconceptions and ill-conceived notions. We all felt like things were going to be given to us, and when things weren’t as easy as we thought they’d be, certain members decided that this wasn’t the life for them. You have to have passion and desire to do this. I mean, Ramen noodles and potato chip sandwiches… come on man, who does that?Rocket: I.R.A.T.E. has their second album release set for April 18th, entitled "Brothers of the Same Struggle", which will be a 2-cd set, featuring a compilation of twenty unsigned bands on the nationwide Project Independent Tour. Can you first tell us more about what we can expect from the new I.R.A.T.E. material.
Erik: (Laughs) A lot heavier. More “rooted” metal. Brutal. More attitude, and more aggressive. We’re a different band than we were. Our music has evolved and our band has matured. Lyrically, I am much more direct. I made damn sure that I addressed everyone who’s ever pissed me off.Rocket: I really dig the song Traitors, bro, What is this song about?
Erick: Ah Traitors…. 2 nasty verses followed by 1 big “cheerful chant of unity”. The first verse was written for all my ex-band members... those who chose to puss-out rather than step up. The second verse is a direct response to a song written about us. Ever since we started this shit we’ve been going at it with this band in New York named Irate. It’s this big trademark thing that’s been going back and forth for years. We own the trademark… they claim that they’ve been a band longer… back and forth, back and forth. There’s been shit talking and death threats and all kinds of stupid shit. Anyway, they wrote a song called Vendetta and posted it on their myspace page. It straight up called us out… calling us “mall-metal made for some bitches”. This is my response. You want some? Come and get it you fucking pussies.Rocket: I.R.A.T.E. is one of the few metalcore bands around today that seem to truly get it right. So many hardcore metal acts think that this genre is going out of style and are starting to commercialize their sound to be accepted by everyone, adding too much harmony to the damn chorus. It's so refreshing to hear an act that won't budge like this band and keeps it true to the genre no matter what. How do you feel about these metalcore bands that sell-out and say that this kind of music is a short-lived thing?
Erik: I’m not big on genres and categories. People are always quick to label you. Emo, screamo, metalcore…It’s all just heavy music, and there are great bands in every genre. Just do what’s true to you.Rocket: So on Tuesday, April 18, I.R.A.T.E.'s going to celebrate the nationwide release by appearing at the Torrance, California Tower Records store from 7pm to 8pm. Are you guys signing autographs and taking pictures for fans who buy the new release?
Erik: Yeah… We’ll do that too. Man… we’re just going for the party! We’re expecting a few hundred kids that don’t get many opportunities to catch a live show. This about a bunch of friends from the hood getting together for a huge tailgate party. If we sign some cds, that’ll be cool too.Rocket: I see the first leg of the 2006 Project Independent Tour will begin on Thursday, April 27 at the Whisky a Go-Go in Hollywood, California. It'll be I.R.A.T.E. and Grain, correct? Who else is on this bill?
Erik: We always play the Whisky…. that’s Home!!! And when we play there we usually rent out the room so that we can do it our way. We pick the bands, show times… everything. This will be one of the best club shows you’ll see all summer. Enthraller is the opening band. They’re speed metal and I’ve known several of those guys for years. Now they’re all in a band together…. crazy! Hostility is 2nd. They’re our Jager brothers from the Bay area and this will probably be their last show before getting signed. Demolition Pit is 3rd, and these guys are longtime buddies. Grain goes on right before us. They’re from Dallas and we’ve done a ton of touring with them. We’ll do close to 100 shows with Grain this year and I’m sure that everyone of them will be quite eventful. The closing band is Putrid Faith. These kids are young and ambitious, plus they’re from the hood.Rocket: Let's get deeper into the bands that are on the compilation disc. Is it all metalcore bands or does it offer some heavy music diversity?
Erik: Very diverse! Something for everybody. If you just like emo or just like hardcore, then this ain’t for you. But if you like a little bit of everything, then you’ll dig it.Rocket: Yeah, great way to define what I.R.A.T.E. does, man. That's why I dig you guys so much. It's so hard to categorize you. Tell me more about your musical background, Erik. When did you first start singing in bands?
Erik: I started as a bass player when I was 13, then I started singing and playing bass. Finally I just said fuck it, and concentrated on singing.Rocket: Who are some of your main vocal influences?
Erik: I don’t know that I necessarily have “vocal” influences. I’m a strange character. I like Danny Elfman and Faith No More.Rocket: Okay, back to the new I.R.A.T.E. album. Where did you guys record it?
Erik: Cameltoe Studios in Bellflower. It’s actually Rudy’s house that has been converted to a fully digital recording studio. It’s nice because it gives us all the time we need on a project. We always run across these bands that spent a ton of money to record a piece of shit. We try to inspire them to do it on their own.Rocket: Jeff Totten of On Stage Management, who used to be the singer for Raising Cain, handles you guys. What has he meant to you and the band so far?
Erik: (Sings “Visions of Suicide) Jeff’s been there from the beginning, side by side with me the whole way. He accomplished so much with Raising Cain, and he’s brought all of that knowledge to this project. He’s definitely the 5th member of this band.Rocket: So who are some of the other bands that will be appearing on the Project Independent tour?
Erik: Oh man…. There’s like 50 or 60 bands on this thing. All the bands on the comp are playing at least one show, and we’ve already played with most of them. Should be fun.Rocket: Go ahead and send a shoutout to all of the biggest I.R.A.T.E. supporters.
Erik: Fans, fans and fans… the street teamers, and myspace friends that constantly tell others about us. We have a bunch of endorsers and sponsors that constantly hook us up and they deserve a shoutout as well, but at the end of the day it’s all about the fans.
Visit I.R.A.T.E. on the web:
www.myspace.com/irate4life
www.Irate4Life.com
www.myspace.com/projectindependent
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107 Comments on "I.R.A.T.E.'s Erik Ulrich: Project Independent Tour"
12. writes:
Irate NYHC has been around for years and they've been kicking a** for just as long. If you're so insecure in the quality of your band that you have to make another band change their name, then it's a sad state of affairs for you. Like they've said before. Come to New York. We've got some trademark issues we can discuss in the parking lot....p***ies.
17. writes:
AND YOU GUYS WERE HAPPY THAT THE EAST COAST AND WEST COAST RAP THING WAS OVER, WELL NOT IN THIS SCENE B!@#@$$%. YA NIGGA TALK ABOUT THE INFINITE REBEBILLIS AGAY THE ESTABLISHMENTSSSSSSS. YOU KNOW THE COURT SYSTEM IS THE ESTABLISHMENT RIGHT? YA NIGGAS ARE VERY FUNNY. CAN'T WAIT TO SEE YOU LADIES.
18. writes:
f*** all you sh** talkers! It's funny how every comment you posted makes you all sound so simple minded. But I guess that why you don't like I.R.A.T.E. It's because you are all intimidated by their music. I guess you're not used to music that is one of a kind, different, and has true meaning behind it! But the funny thing is, is that I.R.A.T.E. doesn't give a sh** what you think, while you guys have nothing better to do than write negative comments and make yourselves sound like f***ing idiots, I.R.A.T.E. will be focusing on what really matters, the fans that look up to them, and making music, that you simple minded fagots will never understand! XoXo IRATE4LIFE baby!
20. writes:
Who is intimidated by i.r.a.t.e.??? freaking hot topic sh**. These herbs don't deserve any cred. The REAL Irate was and always will be from NYC. And your simple minded one. Irate put in mad years and alot of blood sweat and tears to have these fruits weasel in on their good name.
22. writes:
23. writes:
just a casual observer here
the dumbest thing you ever did was talk your sh**
every band name was taken already, big f***ing deal
but you took it to another level
i know irate (ny) the band - they're all cool guys
it's their fans and friends you gotta worry about!!!
you'll be rolling in to do a show and think it's all good when BAM something comes right through your back windshield and there's a bunch of hardcore dudes that wanna bludgeon you for sh**s and giggles
enjoy lookiing over your shoulder.
24. writes:
For some reason, I think i.r.a.t.e. thinks that they wont get stomped out on the West Coast. The REAL IRATE has fans everywhere. If the mall metal i.r.a.t.e. has so many fans, why aren't they defending their boys? I personally think the 2 bands should play on headbangers ball together and let the whole country decide who is real and who is corny. They are against the establishment but say the ONLY way to prove who is more popular is by looking at soundscans. I guess they don't know what it is like to sell thousands of CD's out of your car at a show like TRUE anti-establishment bands have been doing for years. If you want to see how many fans i.r.a.t.e. really has and how much the crowd actually moves for them, just look at their live pics. The anti-establishment band had to goto court to protect their name. They don't know how much protection the establishment gives them. The establishment is what keeps the ghetto people that will eat them alive out of their suburbs. i.r.a.t.e. are a bunch of confused little boys.
Member
27. writes:
We all know who the real Irate is. "You want some? Come and get it you f***ing p***ies." No, b****, we want your f***ing throat and we're going to get it. Somehow I.R.A.T.E think they're real. Irate New York f***in' City is the only realest motherf***in' band there is.
While Irate NYC will be marked down in music history. Years from now THE REAL IRATE NYC will be remembered... who the f*** will remember you?
31. writes:
You f***ing p***ies, COME OUT TO THE EAST COAST. We'll see just how tough you are. The REAL Irate won't even have to look at your faces, we their friends are gonna make sure you fa**ots change your name and never come out to nyc again. You are nu-metal! You are garbage. Enjoy your fame, it does NOT last forever, and I promise you it will end the second you visit the east coast.
33. writes:
I.R.A.T.E. IS NOT METAL! HAHAHAHA that's p***y rock. Against the establishment? Oh yeeah, I forgot. That's what numetal kids like to say nowadays while they play with their hackysacks in the mall parking lot.
Your band is f***inf horrible and please, do yourself a favor and get the point. You don't have a following of music fans. Your fans aren't in love with your music, just the IMAGE you think you have. ( EHEM the KORN era is over hun, go get some singing lessons and grow some balls) IN NYC, WE DON'T PLAY THAT BULLsh**.
43. writes:
Yeah, bad move i.r.a.t.e. stripping irate of their name. Personally, the periods in the name make enough difference to tell the 2 apart. Trust me, I highly doubt your existance was even known pre-lawsuit. I'm a pacifist personally, but I'd sit back and enjoy a good ol' beatdown on your mall-pop metal asses ... heh heh.
44. writes:
To the idiot above me...first , learn how to spell. its "school" not schol.
I.R.A.T.E is fa**ot mall metal. Irate NYC is a true hardcore/metal band that has been around and has earned their respect from plenty. We DO NOT have to justify our scene here in the tri-state area. Just come to a show up here, you'll see what I'm talking about. Leave your Hot Topic mall metal gear at home, it won't be needed. Thanks.
And KATE,(comment #18) if these fa**ots to come to the tri-state area, please join them so i can smash you in the face with a roundhouse.
46. writes:
It's great to see hypocrites get theirs. Do all the bands associated with Project "Independent" have CDs available at Tower Records? And who the f*** does autograph sessions and copyrights their own band name? You know why Irate NY has so many people backing them up against you douches? It's because they did the work for themselves, f***in wrote music and toured with money out of their own pockets for an entire f***ing decade, and didn't do gay Tower Records appearances and Jagermeister sponsorships. Bands who do that get real respect. Good luck having your girlfriends post pro I.R.A.T.E. messages for you.
50. writes:
in your interview, you call IrateNYC p***ies??? Please come here. please please please.
then why dont you p***ies ever play on the north-east coast?? you know why.....CAUSE YOU'LL GET f***ING STOMPED BEFORE YOU MAKE IT TO THE DOOR OF THE CLUB.
and your song "traitors" was a very poor excuse for a comeback. "Vendetta" shredded your asses up. keep making mall metal for little b****es.
732 niggas represent!!!
55. writes:
hahaha putting the real IRATE issue aside for a second...
this band is a joke, listen to their "music". hahaha
They should be able to come to the east coast just so they could play to an empty club.
No one likes these buttpirates anyway, so its not like itd really matter. Wait, sorry, that was an insult to butt-pirates.
What a stupid thing to say about the real Irate..."p***ies"... wow, talk about adding fuel to the fire.
61. writes:
this is a f&cking joke band. That plays Pu$$y music!
and no matter how long they think they can hide for, they have no fan base that likes a ghost band.
p***y b****es.
the real irate. THERE WILL NEVER BE ANY OTHER.
even imposters like these are never gonna make it past.
65. writes:
It looks pretty clear to me what band has more fans. So I guess when your band isn't going anywhere, and all your fans are 15 year old c** guzzlers, you would have to do something to garner some attention, i.e., copyright an obviously already taken name.
How many circle jerks did it take to figure out something to do with yourselves?
67. writes:
i.r.a.t.e. cali sucks big d***!!! unfortunately there's nothing nyc can do about the name problem,but we can definatley put 5 or 6 holes in the back of your f***in head!! you guys will fall on your f***in' face soon enough, and irate,....the true irate..... will still be here !! don't worry about it to much though,when your sh** music crumbles beneath your feet, i know a few guys that can get you a job at one of our local white castles!!
68. writes:
shut up kate you dont have a clue... stupid psycho bint. think before you type.
irate dont give a f***. I.R.A.T.E clearly do since they went to all this trouble to protect a name that means sh** all to me, and obviously sh** all to them.
Fight the power... fight the establishment... but dont fight them too much, otherwise you wont be able to lick their smooth little botties.
and I.R.A.T.E.... dont come to the uk.... specifically london, liverpool... and all the other places.
because the same threat applies i know.
80. writes:
Let me just say this. I'm the 1st original Bass player for Irate Bronx, NY and i did not put in years of hard work and dedication for a bunch of b***h a** herbs that want to decide to come out of nowhere and say that they are the best and all this bulls**t, i don't care about I.R.A.T.E.'s so called fans you can't blame them for being brainwashed. So i'm directing this straight to the band I.R.A.T.E. themselves. if i catch anyone of you motherf***ers no matter where it might be, it dos'nt have to be the EastCoast it could be anywhere i promise you that i will f*** all of you up and your manager. You want a War you got one. You just f***ing kiiled yourselfs fa***ts.
Jayrate
81. writes:
ive been there from the early days of IRATE(nyc) phil jay and the rest of the band were allways good people..
they have built a following of dedicated fans and friends in the east coast hardcore scene because they are solid people
erik and the rest of the cali irate..you have no idea about the hardcore scene or the lifestyle lead by people in this scene..
we all l ook out for each other..and an attack on one of us is like an attack on all of us..
and thats what youve done..youve picked the wrong people to f*** with..
do your home work read up on the hardcore scene and learn who stands behind the band youve chosen to call p***ies
better yet learn about a band from ohio called ONE LIFE CREW that much like you thought they could talk sh** behind thier music..
and wound up killing thier hopes of ever playing outside of ohio..
learn the lesson and take head...you are in over your heads here...
IRATE and friends are from the streets and deal with sh** in the streets
this isnt a game..this isnt some joke battle..youve opened a hornest nest..
and pretty much sealed your dreams of ever playing within 5 hours of the east coast..
hell might not be too soon before friends out west catch up to you
likes its been said..this isnt a threat its a promise..
you reap what you sow b****es..
ps erik..anytime you wann prove how hard you are..you tell me the time and place and ill personally fly my a$$ out and knock youre teeth past your weak a$$ thing you call a voice box..ya f***ing herb
82. writes:
To all the I.R.A.T.E. fans, friends and so-called crews.....here's a copy of the lyrics of Vendetta by the TRUE Irate. Read and choke on our d***s b****es. Your asses got called the f*** out. Now come to the east coast and get whats waiting for ya. Punk a$$ b****es.
so after the f***in smoke clears and the dust settles,we're left with one mission nigga,defendin the families name,we planted our flag years ago and staked our claim,this aint mall metal made for lil b****es,this is war metal made for vendettas,the new breed billyclub sandwich,everybody gets hurt,sworn enemy and the mighty,mighty irate,so right now ima see how far i could shove this underground sh** up yer a$$ b****!
STEP UP, You Cowards, You f***ing criminals
Step up, Step Up to Me
Rise Up Avengers, Rise Up
Defend the Family
X2
We will not be broken by a bunch of f***ing hypocrites
Verse:
I’ve got beef with you putas stealing our name for your own damn gain it’s a damn shame. Your music it makes me sick. you sound like some fagots gagging on Korn’s d***. You think you could f*** with me I’ll beat you musically then physically. Straight out the Bronx, NY I got mine son step up and get yours.
Chorus:
STEP UP, You Cowards, You f***ing criminals
Step up, Step Up to Me
Rise Up Avengers, Rise Up
Defend the Family
X2
Verse:
Don’t even try to plead your case b**** its got more holes than your f***ing face. You’re against establishment but for sponsorship you’ll suck a corporate d***. So f*** you and your crew, your fans, your friends and all your family too. I’m ashamed to be your dad and right now your making me mad yeah your making me want to jump right on a plane, fly first class just to beat your a$$ and fly home again. You’re entering a world of pain and I don’t back down when someone f***s with my family.
You should have been a man about this. Recognized that we pre-exist. But you took the shady route And now I’m here to call you out….b****.
Coward, Criminal, fake ass, wannabe
84. writes:
OWB - don't even try to turn this into an east coast west coast thing. Hardcore is about family worldwide. No matter where in the world, all hardcore kids are family. Hardcore is alive and well in Cali. Let's see if I.R.A.T.E. would dare to play a real cali hardcore show after talkin sh** on hardcore. We can make that happen very quickly.
Seth - HARDCORE UNITED WORLDWIDE
Former Contributor
88. writes:
"No matter where in the world, all hardcore kids are family."
That's what makes the difference between our scene and nu metal scene. In hxc people respect each other and stand up for each other. That's why you're so much in the brown. You're gonna get your a$$ beat at your own shows.
People just post pics of them after they get done.
Don't ever play Europe either coz nuff peeps are waiting for ya.
90. writes:
It's funny how these guys try to call us out thinking I won't go to Cali to personally hand their asses to them. Anyone who knows "Phil Vibes" knows that I'm an easy going guy that doesn't go around starting sh**. However, I'm not going to sit back and take any sh** from a bunch of fa**ots who like to talk sh** from behind their computers. So listen up, I PERSONALLY CALL OUT THE MEMBERS OF I.R.A.T.E. Anytime you guys have the balls to come to the east side let me know. I promise you that no one else in my band will be invloved because this isn't about them. This is about me and the 4 of you fa**otS. We're not IRATE anymore and I don't have to worry about the legal sh**. This means you motherf***ers will get f***ed up. I f***IN PROMISE YOU THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If I have to spend some time in a lock up that's fine. I don't f***in care anymore. YOU MOTHERf***ERS have signed your DEATH CERTIFICATE. I f***ING DARE YOU TO COME OUT HERE. As a matter of fact I will pay for you guys to come down here. So, who's the b**** now!!!!!!!!!!
Your DAD,
Vibes
P.S. Jeff Totten, that goes triple for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
91. writes:
I could give a f*** about either of the 2 irates..... but to both bands I will say this.
YOU'RE BOTH VERY STUPID TO BE POSTING VIOLENT THREATS ON THIS, OR ANY OTHER WEBSITE'S MESSAGE BOARD. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU IP ADDRESS CAN BE TRACED.
You'd both be better off by just shutting the f*** up.
and Jayrate or whatever he f*** your name is... you claim to be a former member? Come on man, what with the threats?
Is it really worth dying over or at best spending the rest of your life on deathrow? I mean come on man, I know you're p***ed and feel the need to "Defend the Family"... but please.
And to the West Coast I.R.A.T.E. I don't know what the f*** this is all about, but if you stole their name, that truely is f***ED!!! But hey.... there are two sides to every story, and as an entertainment writer, I'd love to be the one to cover this one.
92. writes:
Rock Writer i don't claim to be a former member i'am a former member that's a fact. let me say this not one of those fa****s will want to take it that far not even throwdown for that matter. So i'm not or will ever be shook of a bunch of wanna be pu***** and if it really came down to it yes it really is worth it.
See let me explain so thing to you this is not somelittle high school see you at 3 o clock in the parking lot fight, this is real and now I.R.A.T.E. is going to have to find out the hardway.
So Rock Writer i'm only going to say this once and i'm not going to post anything after this last comment because i just don't spend my time in the computer like that but, just as a good Warning it's best that you don't get involved in this. i don't have anything against you and your intitled to your own opinon but you have now clue as to what's going down. it's just best that you stay quiet cause we bring this WAR to I.R.A.T.E. Taliban Style!!!!!!
93. writes:
96. writes:
you should just change your name. save yourselves the headache. i mean just look at all the sh** talking thats going on in this page alone. there is a lot of negativity surounding your band and that is what most people associate you guys with. if thats what you are looking for then so be it, but if i were you i would certantly becarefull about where you play. just a thought.
p.s.change your name. your up against something pretty serious here. think about it.
100. writes:
Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds... This is a famous saying... and it is very fitting here... I have to agree with Kate that you are all simple minds and as far as I know all of you writing here are just some pu**y groupies who fell for some stupid band and you all talk a lot of s*it. You all suck! Don't talk about people you don't know...
103. writes:
TO MR. COMMENT # 98,YOU ARE SO FUNNY, YOU REMIND ME OF MY DOG, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,,,,, YES THEY HAVE BEEN THREATHEN, YES THEY HAVE THIER NAME MUCH LONGER THEN YOURS AND YES IF IT COMES TO IT YOUR BOYS WILL GET THERES WHILE YOU ARE IN THE BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY SIDE JUST CHILLIN. YA NIGGAS ARE REAL FUNNY. HEY GUYS WHY DON'T YOU TAKE THE NAME POISION OR WINGER, NO NO NO WHAT HOW ABOUT STRYPER, NO NO HOW ABOUT SLAUGHTER HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA OH MAN THIS sh** IS FUNNY HAHAHA NO NO WHAT ABOUT BUNS N ROSES, OR MENUDO. LOL. OH MAN, THAT WAS FUNNY. TRY MAKE UP. YOU MIGHT LIKE IT.
105. writes:
I LOVE THIS MR. COMMENT # 104. IT MIGHT BE SO FUNNY THAT ALL OF US MIGHT JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF DRINKS TOGETHER AND LAUGH ABOUT THIS. NOW WHO IS THE RETARD NOW HERB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for real guys can't we all just get along. bo ho obobobobobobobbbbbboooooo(i was crying) boooooohhoooooooooobobobohhohhoho
106. writes:
107. writes:
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1. buddaville writes:
the real irate is from NYC.