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Mudvayne Sees Makeup As An "Additive"

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Mudvayne vocalist Chad Gray spoke with Australia's Time Off magazine about the critics of their latest effort 'Lost And Found', which was cynically described it as another tool in the marketing process after the group removed their make-up and body paint. "The reaction to it all was insane," Gray says. "When you wear make-up, all the talk is about why. No matter how hard you try you can't get away from it. It never mattered that much to us. I think the make-up was more of an additive. At least, that was the way we viewed it. That was just one ingredient in the recipe that is Mudvayne but that was all it was, and things like that become insignificant in terms of music, especially when you can play. It would be different if we didn't know what we were doing and it was just a gimmick, but that's not the case."

Mudvayne recently released their video for their latest single "Fall Into Sleep". Mudvayne's "Happy?" was named both the No. 1 Headbangers Ball Video of 2005 and Billboard Monitor's Active Rock Song of the Year. The song held the No. 1 spot at Active Rock for a staggering ten consecutive weeks.

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1. jwwolf writes:

mudvayne has no talent anyway so makeup or not there still bad nu fake metal

# Jan 13, 2006 @ 4:21 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. crazedmind writes:

dude, f*** off. if you dont like the band then dont post here. and mudvayne is a great band with or w/o the makeup.

# Jan 13, 2006 @ 4:25 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. metalhead644 writes:

haha, jwwolf, your a f***in moron, as musicians, theyre all pretty talented, specially the bassist and drummer... i hate their new stuff, and im not too huge a fan, but you cant call them bad musicians because of it

# Jan 13, 2006 @ 4:36 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. handycap hentai writes:

i think think they were better with makeup, idk thats just me, i kinda fell asleep when they played at ozzfest

# Jan 13, 2006 @ 5:46 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. Wrath_5316 writes:

Well....I think that their new album sucked!! But I still like LD 50 that cd is f***ING AWESOME!!! But make up wise.....I don't really care about that!! To me its about the music that is produce in the studio. Nothing more nothing less.

# Jan 13, 2006 @ 7:29 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. Rulin Kmadd writes:

Your right they were a snoozefest at last summer's ozzfest live. They kind of went
back to their nu-metal sound on thier last cd I thought honeslty they were making
some progress on thier third cd in having a decent metal sound but they regressed in
thier same formula on Lost And Found.

# Jan 14, 2006 @ 3:24 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. squril writes:

mudvayne kicks a** i love all of their albums and ozzfest was f in assome

# Jan 19, 2006 @ 5:50 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. LordAgony writes:

Mudvayne Sees Makeup As An "Additive"

Really?

HOW ABOUT A BUCH OF GIMMICK BULLS-HIT INSTEAD?

I used to kinda like this band,h ell I even respected them, but then they got soft, and went into this whole other retarded direction...

PLUS THEY ARE TOURING WITH KORN AKA KRAP...

So they are most definitley on my sh** list, but at number 25 or 30....

Korn
Insane Clown Posse
Limp Bizkit
Linkin Park
50 cent
The Game
P.Diddy
Camron
Kid Rock
Sugar Ray
Eminem
Otep
Kittie
Simple Plan
Sum41
Blink 182
Mushroonhead
POD
Kiss
Kottonmouth Kings
Britney Spears
Green Day
Coldplay
U2
Black Eyed Peas
Smashmouth
Mudvayne
Destinys Child
Justin Timberlake
Usher
No Doubt
...

SO IT SEEMS THAT MUDVAYNE HAS MADE IT TO 26.....

Notice the number one? Yep, THATS GODDMAN PERMANENT...

# Jan 19, 2006 @ 6:02 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. slayerdisciple writes:

dude headbangers ball sux now if mudvayne wins the best video on it then it has become just like the grammies and mtv

# Jan 19, 2006 @ 6:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. KF writes:

Rulin Kmadd , what would be a decent metal sound? Just Curious to know your thoughts....

# Jan 19, 2006 @ 9:09 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. rising end writes:

i agree with slayerdisciple, HBB went from being the only show on an mtv network that didnt suck to being manipulated and washed out. i stopped watching it months ago. and "happy?" doesnt even qualify as a metal video, is a decent hard rock song at the most.

# Jan 19, 2006 @ 11:47 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. Lord Agony=FAGGOT writes:

God Lord Agony, get off this web site, I don't go on about how I hate bands (except Simple Plan), I have a life, unlike some f***tards, *cough* LORD AGONY *cough*.
Dude, get help or a good taste in music.

# Jan 24, 2006 @ 9:34 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. RememberMetal? writes:

Anyone remember when these guys actually played with raw fury...I admit, they get pretty p***ed off on "Determined" but nothing like anything on LD 50....

Or...remember the kickass song structures and time sig changes from "Ld 50" and "The End of all Things to Come"?.....Again they come close on "Pushing Through" but it's only a 3 and a half minutes song....

Nothing as disturbing, interesting or original as "Cradle", "-1", "Deathblooms", "Perversion of the Truth" etc.....

But L&F was still good...those two albums were a hard act to follow and I'm sure that if they hadn't made this record that would have been the end of their record label deal.....

They should make a double album next time out. A disk like Lost and Found for all the new fans and a disk for the longterm fans....

If anyone thinks this band (the drummer and bassist especially) aren't skilled/creative in terms of rhythm you flat out don't play an instrument.

# Jan 25, 2006 @ 2:52 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. B-rad writes:

I love Mudvayne. Lost and Found is awesome, but L.D. 50 is a classic and a must have metal album, but not for Lord Fagony cause he hates everything.

# Jan 25, 2006 @ 10:05 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. B-rad = n0b writes:

hey n00b insult Lord fagony if you want but don't start lying about the status of mudvayne as metal. they're far from it.. they're just nu-metal suitable for masses like you.

# Jan 25, 2006 @ 2:51 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. s3llout writes:

Mudvayne's best cd by far is Ld 50 which was raw and original. You can't deny the talent of Matt and Ryan (drummer and bassist) Chad (vocalist) also has one of the best voices out there in any music scene. End of All Things to Come was pretty good and continued the creative impulses and ackward time sigs (for example, (Per)version of a Truth) I've been a MuDvAyNe fan for near 6 years seen them live at least 9 times or so and damn they know how to put on a good show. I love this band to death but Ozzfest this year they werent that great. Mainly because they played a lot off Lost and Found which besides IMN and Just blows asss Lost and Found is a terrible cd they need to go back to thier roots and stop this new gay mainstream bull**** they call an album

# Jan 26, 2006 @ 4:49 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. psythe writes:

you know what? i hope some of these death/black metal acts can take a page from mudvayne's metaphorical book and quit wearing corpsepaint. it's just silly. the only band taht ever did corpsepaint well was KISS, and only because it was something that was practically unheard (or unseen) of when they did it, so the shock value was quite a bit more substantial. but thesedays, painting your face on just makes you look like a try-hard, image-conscious n00b.

# Jan 26, 2006 @ 8:21 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. B-rad writes:

Hey, B-rad = nOb, Mudvayne are metal, maybe they're far from the metal you listen to but they are metal. I also listen to System Of A Down, and alot of websites call them metal and I completely disagree with that, well maybe their first CD and Toxicity was kind of metal but there new stuff is just alternative/hard rock. And s3llout, IMN and Just are not the only good songs on Lost And Found, what about Determined, it's nominated for a Grammy for best METAL performance, you hear that they are metal, they were put under the metal category.

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19. azuremouse writes:

I agree with post 6.

# Jan 28, 2006 @ 11:55 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. B-rad writes:

What is wrong with people, why do so many people have a problem with Lost And Found,
it's an amazing album but a band has the right to change their sound. I have all of their albums and I don't think L.D. 50 is the best one, I like them all the same. Now all of you retards stop critisizing Mudvayne for changing, they're still heavy but in a different way.

# Jan 29, 2006 @ 10:37 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. B-rad writes:

oh yeah, and Lord Agony, I agree with alot of the artists on your sh** list, but Korn at number one, come on...I kind of like Korn, but Simple Plan or Coldplay (my least favourite bands EVER) would have been at the top for me. I definetly don't agree with Mudvayne being on there, and I'm just glad System Of A Down wasn't on there.

# Jan 29, 2006 @ 11:04 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. Mallanoth writes:

You're all a bunch of f***wit trendwhore disciples! Just because Mudvayne could run in the same vein as other nu-metal acts like Korn and Slipknot, does not automatically make them sh**. In fact, they're one of the only nu-metal groups I respect. Different people have different tastes regarding their albums, so there's no point in saying "0MGZ0R5 LOST NND FOUND WAZ TEH SUXX0R5!!!11111" and not expecting someone to get all sh**ty about it.

Seriously, walk away from the TV for a bit and think for yourselves.

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23. B-rad writes:

Excellent job Mallanoth. Alot of people b**** about Lost And Found being crappy. I personally love Lost And Found as much as I love L.D. 50 and The End of all Things to Come. But I guess that's not gonna stop people from acting like 4 year olds and whining just because they don't like an album, get over it, get on with your lives.

# Feb 1, 2006 @ 10:41 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. B-rad writes:

And if a band stuck to their "roots" that would be very boring, like people grow and change, mucic does too. Mudvayne barely changed at all, they now just have alot more melodies and I think Chad's vocals have improved a little. Now I can see freaking out if a band completely changed genre's, like if Mudvayne went to rock/rap, I would freak out because they have been metal for their entire careers. And if I don't like an album, I don't listen to it instead of b**** and b**** and b**** about it.

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25. Cynic writes:

Determined was such a bad song it went passed the point of laughable. Its sound like a little kid wrote those lyrics. Lost And Found was a major step in a generally gay direction. I liked a few songs on End Of All Things To Come, mostly for the interesting bass lines and technicality but thats about it.

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26. B-rad writes:

Determined, gay?!? That is the most amazing song, and it's nominated for a Grammy! And Mudvayne writes amazing lyrics for all of their songs. And here we go again with people b****ing about why Lost And Found was "gay" or "in a new direction", don't f***ing listen to it if you hate is so much, god it's like giving directions to a preschooler.

# Feb 3, 2006 @ 9:14 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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27. Ryknow writes:

Yeah i agree with B-rad, if you dont like the music, f*** OFF and listen to your sh**e!
Im sure if you told us your favourite band we would have alot to say about them, so keep you negative oppinions to yourself.

# Feb 8, 2006 @ 2:02 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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28. ??? writes:

B-rad and those who agree with B-rad ie Ryknow no one could say it better than you. All those immature babies who whinge about Lost and Found....Every band is entitled to their own decision, they should not be criticised. It takes talent and guts to go and do what they do. How would you go trying to create original music and performing it in front of thousands?? Mudvayne do that and they do it damn well. Simple fact is STOP YOUR F*****G B******G about them. You don't like em? Fine. Don't listen to them! Just give Mudvayne and other bands the respect they deserve.

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29. B-rad writes:

Yes ??? and Ryknow, that's the point I've been TRYING to make for like a month. But people still b**** about Lost And Found being crappy, I love all of Mudvayne's albums though. When I don't like something I don't write paragraphs about it, I ignore it and write paragraphs about what I actually like. Well, once in a while I say "this band/album sucks"
but thats it, I don't go into full detail of why I hate it.

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30. bradispissed writes:

you don't have to


the bands name alone symbolizes all that is sh**

# Feb 8, 2006 @ 4:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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31. B-rad writes:

bradisp***ed, all metal bands have names like that. Alot of people make assumptions about Mudvayne because of the band name, what about Canibal Corpse, their name makes them sound like sh** too and I haven't even heard them, and I don't assume things and judge a band because of it's name, because I'm not a little mindless b**** like you bradisp***ed, you've been nothing but a d*** to me lately so stay out of my business and go insult someone else for no f***ing reason at all.

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32. Cynic writes:

Woah, sorry their B-rad. For a second there I thought I stepped into a forum where I could post my opinion!! I agree that we should stop insulting others for there musical taste, but who are you to tell me I can't critsise musical aspects I don't like? The reason we have pros and cons in arguments is to get down to the reality of the matter.

??? Says "....Every band is entitled to their own decision, they should not be criticised."

Are you f***ing kidding?! Praise the lord! This guy has found the holy grail of musical rules! Quickly, do away with all critism, constructive or not in album reviews across the world! ....Gime a break.

Anyway B-rad, I can't believe you actually think the grammys mean anything, especially in the metal category. I find the song "Determined" at the very negative end of the metal spectrum I like. I just found the lyrics and delivery immature and angst ridden, like some angry kid.

To all the people who keep saying "If bands didn't change they would keep putting out the same crap blah blah", ever heard Slayers, Deaths, Morbid Angels etc discographies? They are testaments to how you can evolve and still sti

# Feb 8, 2006 @ 7:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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33. Cynic writes:

*stick to your roots.

# Feb 8, 2006 @ 7:36 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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34. Rulin Kmadd writes:

Sorry I am late but for that guy up there. I thought on The End Of All Thing To Come they had a bit
of a thrashy sound to them and touring with In Flames that year they would have put out an even
heavier record but to me they put out another LD 50 IMO and I only liked 2 songs on that cd
the rest of it sounded like Tool Meets Korn but I will say Lost And Found is a better cd. A friend
of mine has it and it's not bad.

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35. Rulin Kmadd writes:

I thought they would have put out a heavier cd. My bad on the grammar.

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36. bradispissed writes:

lol the reason behind the statement had nothing to do with their name


it had everything to do with how they sound

# Feb 8, 2006 @ 9:34 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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37. Happysatan13 writes:

Yeah, I agree with Mellanoth. I may despise the sound of Mudvayne, but they are talented,
and although I am usually crusading against nu-metal, there is no good reason to attack this
band. Hell some of their songs I can even stand to hear. But as for B-rad, invoking the Grammys is not a good arguement at all. The people that run the Grammys never judge metal by skill, or the actual quality of the song. They measure it by either popability or nominate a band that has reached a status so great within metal that people outside of metal easily
hear about them and listen to them, such as this years, ministry. So, in conclusion, yay for mudvayne making sure that nu-metal isn't ALL bad, and boo for thinking that the Grammys
are a proper arguement to say that a metal song was good.

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38. B-rad writes:

I know the Grammy's don't judge on which song is the best, I hate most VERY popular music. And Cynic, I don't care if you critisize a band but don't just keep b****ing about it like Lord Agony did, we don't need another Agony on here again. I didn't say the Grammy's meant anything, all I said was it's nominated for a Grammy. And why do you think Determined sounds like an angry kid, because there's alot of swearing in it? Also, Cynic, when did I say you weren't allowd to post your opinion? I always post about how when people say a band sucks than it's just their opinion and it's not necessarily the truth, but all of them are immature pricks who think what ever they say about a band is true.

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39. Cynic writes:

"Now all of you retards stop critisizing Mudvayne for changing"

Actually, apart from that I might have been a bit harsh, It was just the feeling from alot of posts that people didn't have the right to critisise music they didn't like.

That is the most amazing song, and it's nominated for a Grammy!
"I didn't say the Grammy's meant anything, all I said was it's nominated for a Grammy."

Why would you say anything about if you didn't?

# Feb 9, 2006 @ 5:36 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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40. B-rad writes:

I was just saying that they were nominated for a pretty big award, I didn't actually say I cared if they won. Stop making a big deal over something I said. I didn't think my Grammy
comment would upset anyone that much, it's just my opinion. And I do think people have the right to critisise something they hate, I'm not trying to get you to stop making your own opinions. Let's just drop the whole Grammy thing, the awards were on last night and Mudvayne didn't win anyways, Slipknot did.

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41. Cynic writes:

Yep, no big deal at all.

# Feb 9, 2006 @ 8:12 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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42. B-rad writes:

Okay, glad we got that Grammy stuff all cleared up. You can make your own opinions, and I'll make mine.

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43. bradispissed writes:

we'll just ignore yours

# Feb 9, 2006 @ 11:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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44. B-rad writes:

What is your problem bradisp***ed, oh yeah, you're on your period. I forgot. Oh well, if you're still cranky after a week than you should seriously get that checked out. And at least I make opinions, all you do is write one line of insults directed at me, you f***ing pansy don't you have anything better to do, like get off the computer and go end your miserable life.

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45. bradispissed writes:

lol

# Feb 10, 2006 @ 12:53 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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46. bradispissed writes:

you're way to easy

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47. sevenchurches writes:

f*** sh**vayne
f*** headgivers ballsack

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48. B-rad writes:

I'm way too easy.......and how is that exactly? sevenchurches, it seems to me you like the bands you hate because you seem to like them enough to go on their news articles.

# Feb 10, 2006 @ 5:37 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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49. metalbaby writes:

Please leave korn and mudvayne alone. I love them just as much as i love bands like Deicide or Nile

# Feb 10, 2006 @ 5:58 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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50. B-rad writes:

I know, just leave them alone. I love Mudvayne and I like Korn. People always say Korn ruined metal, HOW? By creating nu metal? Because that's something to like a band for, actually creating a sub genre of metal is pretty amazing.

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51. B-rad writes:

Rulin Kmadd, what to songs on End Of All Things did you like? I'm just curious.

# Feb 10, 2006 @ 8:46 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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52. bradispissed writes:

baby got back?

# Feb 11, 2006 @ 12:20 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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53. B-rad writes:

Last night on Loud I heard a Demon Hunter song for the first time and I thought it was really good. Their Christian Metal but I don't care about their religion, the song I heard was Undying and I thought it was awesome.

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54. Rulin Kmadd writes:

Well I thought the Not Falling song was remotley decent it had some thrash elements to it
and the balladic song wasn't too bad but man im telling that band is boring as hell live i mean
their guitar player just stood there like he was all smacked up or something he looked like
Corey Hart wearing his sunglasses at night i mean literally he was doing that lol.

# Feb 12, 2006 @ 3:39 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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55. B-rad writes:

Well, no wonder their guitar player was just standing there, when they play live they actually play their instuments. If you're actually playing guitar you can jump around everywhere on stage. I have a Mudvayne DVD, All Access To All Things, and during the live portion Greg was just standing there, but he also does the back up vocals sometimes so he can't get away from the mic for too long.

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