Josh Homme: The Amount of Shit Metallica Borrowed
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In an era when METALLICA and PANTERA were the biggest metal bands in the world, legendary Palm Desert generator soldiers KYUSS were too metal for the grunge crowd and too rock for most headbangers. "We were totally against those bands," former KYUSS guitarist Josh Homme (currently the frontman of QUEENS OF THE STONE AGE) told Decibel magazine. "And really, the amount of shit that METALLICA borrowed from us is frustrating. It was strange."
KYUSS famously opened for METALLICA in Australia in 1993. METALLICA's soundman promised KYUSS they'd have a full PA during their set but quickly changed his mind after KYUSS plugged in and turned on. "We douched them," Homme laughed. "On a frequency spectrum, we were like a brick wall until you hit the high end — and then there was no high end. I mean, high end if not fun for anybody; you don't party with high end." Years later, Homme was playing with QUEENS at Slim's in San Francisco, high on escsasy and being interviewed about his METALLICA experience. "This guy I knew was making a movie about METALLICA, and I was trying so hard not to say something negative. I think I talked about the rider or something, and then I said meeting them was like meeting George Bush. My eyes must've been spinning."
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How dare you blaspheme the Slayer name and defend the biggest sellout punks in musical history, slayerdisciple? I could give a flying toot how many records they sold. Michael Jackson sold lots, and so did Milli Vanilli, you tard. Load and reload were both CRAP, as was the black album, and St Angry. Madly in anger with you HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH boy james the lyrics get better and better you wanker. Oh yeah, my browser wasnt working properly, thats why I kept pressing the button. But, I guess it needed to be posted that many times, and you still dont get it.
METALLICA HAS PERFORMED THE BIGGEST SELLOUT IN THE HISTORY OF MUSIC SON. FACE THE FACTS. JUST LISTEN TO FIGHT FIRE WITH FIRE, THEN LISTEN TO KING NOTHING LOL. I REST MY CASE.
8. writes:
yes metallica do suck but only the last 15 years because their first five albums you great and then their got drunk on the own success and then they went down hill and of couse one of the biggest steaming piles of sh** came out in 2003 the sh**ty album st.anger. what a disgrace and now they will do the only senticble thing and tour.
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12. writes:
"if the masses all buy them then that must mean that they are a good band" Wtf?
So Britany Spears and Justin Timberlake and 50 Cent and Black Eyed Peas and Gwen Stefani are all good musical acts? i don't think so. Just because all the sheeple unwashed masses buy it doesn't mean it's good. It just means they have no taste in music and will buy and listen to anything that corporate music man tells them to listen to cause they are SLAVES to popularity.
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What a bunch of f***ing bullsh**!!!! Could you please be a bit more specific about what Metallica "borrowed" from you? What riffs were stolen? What song did they use it in? I can sit here all day and accuse bands of stealing sh** from each other. As a matter of fact, the guitar player in my band wrote a riff simillar to one of SOAD's riffs off the new album, long before it came out. That doesn't mean they stole it from us. I don't think the guys that wrote Ride The Lightning and Master of Puppets would need to steel anything, especially from you. Dave Mustaine in the early days, yeah I can see that, but what the f*** have you done that would even be worth stealing?
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21. writes:
Kyuss was something of an origianl band, Even the "Songs for the Deaf" record was pretty cool, but the new QOTSA is f***ing garbage.
Homme is a budding publicity whore just like Courtney Love has been for 15 years. Any noise he can make to get the press excited and have his new sh** album mentioned is what he lives for.
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22. writes:
Hold on a second!!! I want to sumarize it all, you're talking sh** about kyuss and Josh, but look at metallica even their name was a rip off(they addmitted that they stole it from a scandinavian magazine), for me they lost all credibility, for sure they wanted imitate alice in chains and kyuss on load and reload even by means of stealing from them especially from kyuss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
24. writes:
blah blah yes you have a point for f*** sakes yes Anel_Begotten. but it does not not change the fact that metallica have not made a good album in 15 no 16 years so who care about that they stole sh** from kyuss it only proves my point. dave mustaine was also riped off by metallica most of metallica riffs are his from the first four albums, so when is dave gona write an thread about that HUH!
25. writes:
despite everybodies opinions of load and reload, nothing was borrowed. these days, everything sounds like something else. again, i agree metallica ripped off a few of dave's riffs in the early days, get it straight, though...only from the first two albums. some bands have song ideas or riffs laying around for years before they use them, which i'm sure some of those songs were based on ideas from the days when dave was in the band. However, from a musical standpoint, Load and Reload were rock ablums. Very formulated. Many of the songs followed the basic 1-4-5 structure of classic rock and roll. Plus, when you consider that there are only seven notes in every scale, there is only so original you can be with that sort of song structure. Those albums sounded similar to Alice In Chains and Kyuss, because they were the comtemporaries of the 90's. If thrash metal had not have been booted of the scene by grunge, Metallica would have kept playing that style, because that's what the competition was. They outlasted the scene and didn't have to play that style anymore. When the Beatles broke up, the Rolling Stones no longer had to compete with their sound. Hence, the Rolling Stones style drastically changed in the 70's.
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26. writes:
Kyuss themselves were great. Some of the QOTSA output is impressive too BUT Josh Homme is media-whore....and for someone of his skill he turned in a very sh**ty album this year.
That huge ordeal regarding the not-so-smooth departure of Queens bassist Nick Oliveri was milked and milked and milked during the Queens downtime up to the time Lullabies came out.
Furthermore, Homme got into about 8 drunken altercations during the time between albums as well....which is why Olveri was kicked out in the first place......
Metallica have been creatively impotent since 1990....And creatively dead since St Anger.
Of course Metalica plucked some nuances from Kyuss, AIC, Soundgarden, PJ and nearly every pre, post and grunge band of that era. Everyone that wasn't Pantera or Nine Inch Nails took the lead from those times if they weren't forging some aspect of that era themselves.
It sure as sh** didn't --HELP-- Metallica. By borrowing from up and comers and the rock radio mainstream Metallica has become rawsewage in every respect other than their live shows where they do play what the fans want to hear.
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28. writes:
What the fuk you talkin about inyourface? Lars stole the name Metallica when he saw it in a list of names that his freind Ron Quintana had written for the purpose of his OWN metal magazine which ended up being called Metal Mania. . .Get your facts straight.
As for stealing riffs and the like, Homme can go and get himself fukked, because every guitar player steals licks off one another. If Metallica blatantly stole anything IF AT ALL, then it would be Black Sabbath riffs. Just listen to the end of "Fairies wear boots" and tell me that it doesnt sound like Kirks bridging riffs in "For Whom The Bell Tolls". Point is everyone does it.
Homme being the jealous and bitter Fuk that he is, is angry because his own career sucks balls so he ahs to go on a witch hunt trying to salvage credibility for himself as a "musician" and i use the term musician fukkin loosley. I wonder what he would say if we asked him whether he's ever stolen little guitar licks before. Hed be the most naive motherfukker on this planet if he said no. . .what a worthless whinging c*** he is
Got news for you Homme, your careers washed, your band sucks, and you will never be as big as Metallica. . .EVER
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HAHAHA! what the F*** Josh Is Jealous??? That's bullcrap, you're not following Qotsa's career. For example look at the videos. If qoutsa were making music and videos to make money they would'nt release 3 or 4 non medial videos!!!!!!!For ex. Firsth it giveth,everybody knows that your insane,burn the witch!!!!!!! I want to state that Metallica is the biggest media whore that ever existed in metal world(excluding LP, Korn,Limp Bizkit) Pathetic old metal band that will colaborate with everybody.They act like stars, because the're stars of comercial business,showing it every way they can! I remember when james h. talked about his detox (cause like you exacly know he is an alcoholic,) he almost cried that was so pathetic whiny little b****, selling his acoholism.Sueing napster for money, Hammet playing with Santana, need I say More?!!!!!!!! JEEEZ people think for a second who're you calling a whore.You've got it all mixed up.Metallica isn't the same band as it was in the begining.metallica fans accept that you're favourite band isn't hte metallica that put out for ex. master of puppets
31. writes:
agreed inyourface has the best point. but his point is metallica are just a washed up 80s band that cant come up with there own riffs becuase the omount of riffs that mustaine came up with during his time in metallica was enough to last them for a while, now they're gona cry in there closets and big him to come back.
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33. writes:
I'm not saying Metallica aren't media-whores Inyourface. I'm saying that Josh Homme has --become-- a media whore.....Metallica have been that way since they started pushing the Black album.
Qotsa were very much media-shy once. Homme is as bad or worse than Metallica on an individual or collective level.
Besides now both bands are terrible.
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hmm, interesting opinion RM, we will see what is Josh going to do next. I'm very curious, because i don't think of him as a media whore, well i don't dislike his new record but for sure the first Qotsa album for me is the best, well maybe not the best but I frequently return to it. Josh had some bad times when the whole affair with Brody Dale broke loose. Now he's doing some strange sh**(or maybe now he wants to get his frustration out,really everybody was licking metallica's ass, even mustaine who is treated like garbage,although he may deserve that,what josh said is couragious, hovever many of you will call it stupid,whatever we'll see)I hope he didn't detriorate so much as you tell me. Josh is extremlely sarcastic take that in consideration. What frustrates me with all the opinions is comparing qotsa and kyuss to metallica in terms of music, which is totally stupid. The bands cannot be compared you can't say that either one is better. We all have different taste of music, and i don't have anything about people listening to metallica, if it gives them pleasure then ok. Well is listen to "pantsy rock" (Qotsa, PJ, Foo Fighters)as much as some pretty hard stuff in the likes of Fear Factory, Godflesh, Opeth, Ministry, Dillinger escape plan. So shut your god damn mouths all you "true metal heads" who think only death metal and the likes should exist end everything should turn to ashes.
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Some of you make decent points, but I don't think many of you understand the creative process, and how it ties in with the music industry. Whether anybody agrees with the decisions Metallica has made or not, it is a business of selling records...that's f***ing reality! Just because somebody accuses something doesn't make it true. Just because so many of you hate Metallica doesn't mean that they stole music Josh Homme. Don't believe everything you read. I guarantee if any of the guys in Metallica read this, they will be laughing their asses off at how ridiculous some of you people are. You guys are the fans, and the ones who go out and spend hard earned money on these records, so you all are very important to the careers of musicians. Don't criticize what you don't understand, though. Hell, it may have all been taken out of context in the first place. We all know how the media works. Just look at what the media did to Pantera. Now Pantera fans argue about Phil, not understanding that they have been played by bullsh** made up to sell magazines. Wake the f*** up people!
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37. writes:
It's also common knowledge that artists lift material from other artists.....It's almost impossible for an artist to come out and not have half a dozen very obvious musical role models.
Metallica reinvented the wheel when it came to metal back in the 80's. They cherry picked certain aspects from other bands but taken as a whole, there were very few bands with the thrash sound, and none with such good production.
All of the Josh Homme projects (QotSA, Desert Sessions, Kyuss etc) are also unique spins on rock, pushing and pulling the envelope, inviting other styles and toying with the very notion of rock music is....
Every honest artist will fess up to pulling material from other artists, there is a limit to what you can do with music. Theres only so many instruments, notes, chords etc. I'm not saying that everything has done before but that time is working against new artists.
To be an original artist in this day and age you have to work even harder at your craft than the people that will ineveitably inspire you. Otherwise your just ripping off someone who ripped off someone else who ripped off the Beatles who ripped off Elvis who ripped off 1930's-40's jazz and blues musicians.
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I understand where you're coming from remember metal, but I don't think that Metallica all sit down in a meeting and "cherry pick" aspects of music to create their sound. Subconciously, I'm sure trends do have some level of impact when they are trying to create something new and different from what they've done in the past. Having said that, Metallica have started the trends, not followed them. They set the pace for the thrash scene in the eighties, then set a new pace for metal with the Black Album in the nineties. Actually, I think St. Anger was probably their first album that hasn't been trend setting. Every metal band out there with the exception of their contemporaries from the eighties has borrowed from Metallica, not the other way around. I really don't believe that a band as inovative as Metallica has any need to borrow a sound from somebody, when they created that sound in the first place.
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I completely agree with regards to Metallicas ability to set trends and shift the tides in metal. You don't get to the top by not turning a few million heads.
The only reason it didn't happen on this album is because it was so inspired by two things that were very much out there: Nu-metal style lyrics and garage band-style production.
It's an inhuman task to want Metallica to push the genre with every album, they've done that for long enough. I think the only thing they need to do to impress fans is let them know they can still be original and still have the spirit that got this band rolling from the start.
To me St. Anger felt very forced. Hetfield went into the album with writters block and his mental and emotional fabric was probably still a bit thin from rehab. He sounded like he had conviction on the last record but on previous outting he was also articulate. The music ranged from decent to bad as whole IMHO and the production could have been better in my basement.
I too don't believe Metallica had to borrow a sound from anyone, they just happened to get caught up in the massive culture shift in the rock world that was alternative.
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It took me about 2 seconds to type and a fraction of a second to copy and paste (ctrl c and ctrl v) you tubby inbred.
If you had ever used a computer for school or work you might know a little trick like that. Good thing they don't need computer skills at Kentucky Fried Chicken or you might be standing in line with the rest of the underskilled in soup kitchen.
Have you ever actually spelled the word "you" or did you only get as far as the alphabet before you dropped out?
Put up a post in 12 years when you get your GED.
50. writes:
Im a tubby inbred eh? thats it? . Id im sure you would kno about how to work things at kfc. Talk about droppin out, are you asking your mother what to say because i kno that you are not that smart lil homie. using your big words does not impress me. ill beat ur homless a$$ down. white fags. 9/11 lives.
51. writes:
yep its me and i am pised cuase this band sux- and y'all r fags. Y do you guys still beliaeve that metalli-anger are ganno make a another masterpeis wen they have abandened all of the fans. you need to see that there just a washed up 80z band. duh/ stop making out as tuelwfewlwhbvihbwv
52. writes:
hahahah...hahah...hahahahahah...ha...hahahah, i'm sorry, i can't stop laughing at how badly 'No Hope=No Fear' not only just got his shlt ruined, but basically ruined his own shlt by being himself. Remembermetal?, you should get PAID for coming up with stuff like that. tops.
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54. writes:
What was that No Hope?....I could'nt understand you with all those goat d***s in your mouth.
I didn't expect to hear from you until 2018.
You're still posting like a syphilitic retard....What did I tell you about that?.....
Speak to me when you can come up with something worth my time or don't speak to me at all.
You can talk about 9/11 until your rotting teeth fall out of your head and bounce off your hairy belly, I couldn't care less.
56. writes:
holy crap! i can totally see where you're coming from, No Hope - i mean, you make a REALLY VALID point. you're completely and utterly right. RememberMetal? must be a homosexual, because he used the word "understand". and you're spot on when you say metallica sucks his dlck; it comes out in the way he used the word "syphilitic" (affected with syphilus being my guess to the meaning of such)!! you're just so damned accurate!! YOU ARE A BIGGER WASTE OF OXYGEN THAN SCOTT STAPP. go masturbae yourself to death. and quit mimicking respectable people like Max Cavalera by using their phrases, No Hope=No Fear.
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I had fun outting No Hope as horse raping autistic.
So back to the point of discussion...Metallica have made 3 consistantly sh**ty albums in a row. Whether Kyuss influnced those failure albums we will probably never know......
If Homme is going to gloat, it shouldn't be about inspiring Metallica to make sh**ty fake alternative albums.
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75. writes:
ok this article made no sense except homme is a little whiney b**** hes just p***ed hes in queens of the stone age and not metallica look i agree metallica have went down hill since black album and p***ed me off when they took the solos away which in my opinion is the dumbest f***ing thing anyone could have thought of done whoever thought that was cool needs to be shot, as for ppl who say its not album sales that make it good, yes very true look at Death i beleive one of the best bands ever its all about publicity and having the backing to go that far, just cuz a band dosnt sell a million albums doesnt mean it sucks. but to end this all off homme needs to shut his damn mouth and go back to being a fag in queens of the stone age
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1. hvymetal writes:
ummmmm wat the f*** was this about anyway?