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Marilyn Manson Video is Murder Evidence

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British prosecutors used clips from a Marilyn Manson video as part of a murder trial last week.

Prosecutors showed clips from Manson's The Golden Age of the Grotesque, in the trial of 16-year-old Luke Mitchell, accused of killing 15-year-old Jodi Jones. Prosecutors showed snippets of the album's bonus DVD which contained images of bound and hooded girls being left in the woods. The prosecution alleges that the video implies molestation -- though nothing but tied bodies are shown -- and that it in part helped inspire Mitchell to kill his schoolmate.

Mitchell told investigators he listened to the goth-lite band before his arrest. How that ties into a murder trial, however, wasn't immediately apparent.

Source: Aversion.com

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1. VniXteR writes:

thats f***ing stupid

# Dec 27, 2004 @ 11:41 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. Steven writes:

how f***in retarded can people get

# Dec 28, 2004 @ 1:53 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. BLackLava writes:

What BS....after hearing virtually all of Manson's music...I don't remember the urge to commit cold blooded murder

# Dec 28, 2004 @ 2:22 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. Muffy writes:

mansons a fag!

# Dec 28, 2004 @ 3:41 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. EL Toro Barako writes:

what the f*ck... is that a valid reason to kill someone!? listening to some fu**ed up music!? what kind of sh*t is everybody on lately!?

# Dec 28, 2004 @ 3:55 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. ac666 writes:

People have killed others in horrendous ways since the dawn of time. Music has nothing to do with this.

# Dec 28, 2004 @ 4:04 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. stan writes:

the is no way in in hell some p***y a$$ nu metal sh** like that can convince some dumbass sh** bag to go kill someone if your going to put the blame on music at least put it on a band that probably would blow your f***ing head off (mayhem for instance burzum maybe some real metal motherf***ers)

# Dec 28, 2004 @ 4:49 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. Pedro Azevedo writes:

Sorry my bad english, BUT in portugal in 1998 during the last total solar eclipse...in a small city called Ilhavo, a men (head of a death metal band, infleunced by MARILYN MANSON and CRADLE OF FILTH) killed the parents, the girlfriend and the brother...MARILYN MANSON was appointed...and sayed that it's a stupid reason to explain what happened...In EUROPE people are pitiful and always try find scapgoats for all the problems...
"...you cannot sedate all the things you hate..."

contact me msn: grotesque_burlesque@clix.pt

# Dec 28, 2004 @ 7:09 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. brokenwings13 writes:

I hope they don't pin this on Manson.

First Columbine, now this!

Hey Pedro, I heard about that. What a sad story.

I think metal has nothing to do with this sort of behavior. Yeah, music can influence you, but I think this case is blown way out of proprtion.

Muffy, go die.

# Dec 28, 2004 @ 5:48 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. livingdeadfairy writes:

what about charles manson, he was totally f*cked up and he never was accused of it being because of music, i swear people these days are so stupid and ignorant to the real reasons people cause death . . .

# Dec 28, 2004 @ 10:03 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. tattoocreator writes:

f*** me silly. I have been listening to DEATH METAL non stop for god knows how long and I have not even had the tiniest urge to go out and murder someone.

How f***ing retarded society has become. I would have imagined that listening to some country & western bullsh** is more likely to get you depressed enough to go out and cause dumbass mayhem like this!!!

Mufscrotum, please f*** off.

# Dec 29, 2004 @ 12:18 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. .. writes:

Thats about the most moronic thing I've ever read.

# Dec 30, 2004 @ 8:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. Beauty_of_the_Reaper writes:

thats nothing but nonsense, i mean if a boy, 16 year old boy, average goth music listener such as alot of ppl in this world, is capable of doing such a thing, then it is declaired that the boy is already retarted, hes practically the next Charles manson..... maybe hes trying to influence him some how? i dont think so, kids think that music is the altimate teacher, yes maybe to some ppl yes, to me indeed, but to actually kill, cold hearted mind to do such horror to a 15 year old girl, then i would blame it on the parents for this.....not manson now the music, its all in there heads thinking that music is making them do things.... its sad really, but to me, i blame not manson but the f****** parents, i dont know how but theyve raised a child to do what ppl say he should do, the kid is practically insane on my vote....... insane to do such behavior.....

# Dec 30, 2004 @ 11:31 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. morningstar writes:

i don't think the human brain of a 16 year old would be that fully developed to comprehend the act of killing someone, and getting the influence from goth music.
it would be almost psychologically impossible.
and of course they don't point fingers at all of the rap stars, who sing about "b****es and ho's", about brothers molesting sisters . somehow they are "artists."

# Dec 31, 2004 @ 12:27 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. <GANGSTERS> writes:

marily eo melho depois de cradle_of_filth iran maiden ozzy
+canta bem ele feio pra caralhooooo ass:satan biitooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

# Dec 31, 2004 @ 10:59 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. morningstar writes:

hummana?

# Dec 31, 2004 @ 1:39 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. brokenwings13 writes:

yeah, it's possible.

If a 7 year old who listens to rap learns to call his teacher or mother a "ho", then a sixteen year old can be capable of murder.

But, it's not the music that's doing it. it's the way that person interprets it. One kid could look at the lyrics of a song and think it's funny or even just "ok, this is nothing but entertainment." or a child could think "oh crap, he means this, i have to go out and kill my dad."

The enviroment the person is in is a factor as well.

but i'm just babbling now.

# Dec 31, 2004 @ 3:52 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. Sara Crosby writes:

Muffy, go die. <;<; haha, Brokenwings, niice.

wow, people will do ANYTHING to get rid of Manson these days won't they? i love marilyn manson, and i dont think people understand him, thats why they all jump to their conclusions of what they think is right. He doesn't even worship Satan. He doesn't worship any one, he believes in himself. these motherf***ing fa**ots neet to understand that, and stop judging everyone, "hey you, you dress weird and act different, YOU must have committed this crime" <;<; thats basically what they're saying. it even says in the Bible that judging people is wrong, i hope all those motherf***ers burn in hell.

* sara *

# Dec 31, 2004 @ 7:21 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. brokenwings13 writes:

Nice point Sara, but as I can recall, Manson was ordained a minister in the Church of Satan. But I suppose that could've changed, I don't know.

But yeah, there is alot of Judging going on in this case. but look at the word JUDICIAL! it means to judge! so I suppose this is what they're supposed to do!

You go in neutral, you look at the evidence and make your verdict.

# Jan 1, 2005 @ 2:31 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. wedo writes:

ya music have an influnce on people .... but it is a good influnce cuz i found killing people is fun and some desirve to die ......... may be i'll kill someone somday and they will put responsibility on M.M or cradle of filth ...... sh** thats great ;(

# Jan 1, 2005 @ 5:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. morningstar writes:

and how is that supposed to be fun?

# Jan 1, 2005 @ 8:16 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. el terminador writes:

everybody is trying to point a finger on who is to blame for things happening in their lives... why can't they just let music by itself and blame themselves instead for their f****d up negligence in controlling their lives... we have total control of our lives so we must take full responsibility for our actions and stop blaming others for the mess we make... >;

# Jan 2, 2005 @ 2:57 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. a real metal fan writes:

Hm, I don't know what to think of the world anymore. I heard that some guy (I have no f***in' idea from wich country he came) comitted suicide and "one step closer" from linkin park, would have made him do it.(ofcourse I would get suicidal if I listened to LP but stil its a weird thaught...).As for youngsters killing, your dutch right brokenwings? well if you are, did you hear about "mya" that was strangeld and murdered by like people from 17 years old, and then they burnd her and it's so f***in close, Right in the city(or next to)where I live, I mean in holland people from 17 year old, are killing people, I can't even imagine how it must be in other country's. Few months ago or something, a 15 year old, just shot his teacher, in the middle of class. Men people have really gone crazy, even killing politicians and directors (fortuyn en van ghog).Sick......(sorrie this was mostly for people from holland, but still it's a freaky thaught that people just kill eacht other so soon, or so easy like with dimebag....But that's another story.....)

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24. a real metal fan writes:

f*** men, I talk to much

# Jan 2, 2005 @ 4:30 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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25. devin writes:

f*** them its not mansons fault the kid just has f***in problems

# Jan 2, 2005 @ 6:59 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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26. brokenwings13 writes:

yeah, i'm dutch.

I've heard about that. I heard about Van Gogh too. Sorry that happened.
I hate when sh*t like that happens. It's stupid. they can't calm down and
leave others alone. it's like they hate to prove hate.

# Jan 2, 2005 @ 7:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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27. morningstar writes:

i'm with devin on that 100%.
maybe that kid just needed someone to talk to.
think about it, that could happn when you have
nobody there for you, you just crack.

# Jan 2, 2005 @ 8:23 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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28. a real metal fan writes:

Yeah, I fully agree brokenwings. All my friends and every other person I speak to, also want that people leave each other alone. We (or in holland anywayz) are control freaks, if there's something we can't oversee, were just going nuts, we start making rules for problems we make ourselves.
Its a kind of a circle thing. I would like to see how things would go if everybody just let every other person alone, then you would really see who the real jerks, idiots and terrorists are......
People judge to soon........
( BTW where do you live brokenwings? I myself live near nijmegen. It's pretty bad here allthough you don't notice it if you don't live in the "bad places of town".

# Jan 3, 2005 @ 11:18 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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29. a real metal fan writes:

And about what devin said, I agree, but think about it counterways. Maybe MM's music made him steam of a bit, Atleast that's why I listen to/make music (partially that is..), to steam of all the frustrations ya have in one day.
There is a chance that if he hadn't MM's music, he would have done these things sooner........

# Jan 3, 2005 @ 11:21 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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30. ac666 writes:

'There is a chance that if he hadn't MM's music, he would have done these things sooner........'

Dead f***ing right. Notice how the mainstream media never takes this tack when discussing dark music and crime?

# Jan 3, 2005 @ 4:34 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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31. morningstar writes:

uuhh, real metal fan, she's in America. she's my sister, so i know.

# Jan 3, 2005 @ 5:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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32. brokenwings13 writes:

I meant that I'm of Dutch heritage, but I stay in touch with the headlines and everything, I'm thinking of moving over there one day.

# Jan 3, 2005 @ 9:11 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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33. BLACK DOG writes:

The truth is this kind of sh**'s been going on longer than I can remember .If black kid's are killing each other they blame RAP.If white kid's are killing each other somehow metal's involved.Back in the 50's Rock as it was back then was being blamed for teenage pregnancy , and at some point Jazz was somehow making decent honest kid's smoke Pot.The truth is the establishment is alway's looking for a Skape Goat.I remember back in the 80's some parent's blamed JUDAS PRIEST for the attemted double suicide of two people.The same thing happend to METTALICA.Why people do this ? I havent the faintest idea , but it really turns my stomach that it still happens.

# Jan 3, 2005 @ 10:12 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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34. morningstar writes:

BLACK DOG, i like your name.
that's my favorite song.

# Jan 4, 2005 @ 12:05 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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35. a real metal fan writes:

oooohw haha, I feel kinda stupid tight now :P. I didn't know....
If your moving to holland one day, the east part is the best I think,the whole west coast can be seen as allmost one big city, meanly in the middle and east you still have like alot of forests but I heard that where now officially labeled as the most close populated country in the world (or however you say that)16.5 miljon people and growing and believe me this country is litterely "full".
So, if your happy where you are now, don't bother, just come on a holiday or something cause your not missing much!!
and as for what black dog said, no remorse from metallica was used as a "reason to kill" for someone, I don't f***in know why but I thaught it's posted on this site somewhere.........

# Jan 4, 2005 @ 2:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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36. a real metal fan writes:

Sorry that was some f***ed up english, Those english lessons aren't a bad idea :P

# Jan 4, 2005 @ 2:45 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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37. LOK HIMMM writes:

RIGHT F***ING ON, I REMEMBER THAT EXACT EVENT INVOLVING THOSE LITTLE A**GRABBING fa**otS BLAMING JUDAS PRIEST FOR THIER OWN STUPIDITY, AND IT IS THE SAME NOW AS IT WAS THEN. IF YOU WANT MY OPINION, THEY SHOULD TAKE RESPONSIBILTY FOR THIER OWN ACTIONS INSTEAD OF TRYING TO GET OUT OF THE SH** THREY CREATED BY BLAMING SOMEONE ELSE. IT IS BECAUSE OF DUMB F***S LIKE THIS THAT THE WORLD IS SO F***ED UP NOW!! HIMMM!!!!!!!

# Jan 4, 2005 @ 3:03 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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38. LOK HIMMM writes:

AND BEFORE SOMEONE TRIES TO CORRECT ME BY SAYING THE PARENTS BLAMED JUDAS PRIEST, REFER OR REMEMBER THE NOTE THAT THOSE TWO IDIOTS LEFT THE PARENTS, AND THE RESULTING CAUSE OF ALL THAT BULL**IT.HIMMM!!!!!

# Jan 4, 2005 @ 3:07 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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39. morningstar writes:

that's ok, real metal fan, we all ocassionally do something stupid.

# Jan 4, 2005 @ 8:09 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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40. formethalyne writes:

jeez, is this a travel site? shut up you unreal metal fan!

# Jan 4, 2005 @ 8:40 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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41. brad writes:

i like when people type in all caps because it shows they are angry.


RAWR.

# Jan 4, 2005 @ 10:30 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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42. ac666 writes:

'RAWR'

That reminds me of the gay lion in South Park.

# Jan 5, 2005 @ 12:24 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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43. slipknotclown6 writes:

What the hell

# Jan 5, 2005 @ 10:49 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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44. a real metal fan writes:

If I post something its normally about the news, just this time it was about something dutch, well who f***in' cairs? I'm not like posting things you need an hour for to decipher and just beacuse of that, it doesn't make me an "unreal" metal fan.I listin From CoB to Led zeppelin and everything in between so...
It just hasn't got anything to do with it.

# Jan 5, 2005 @ 11:33 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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45. Jean writes:

I love marilyn manson, he's just too smart and talented. It amazes me when people try to blame him for inspiring murder....i mean i dont ever recall any of his songs being about suicide or killing people. The worst they've ever done to me is inspire me to believe in myself. What makes the whole thing even more ridiculous is that they probably dont know anything about him other than the way he dresses (which i personally think is really cool). If you've ever watched manson talk normally when he's not performing and stuff, he's actually quite intelligent and reserved. So this whole deal with him inspiring murder seems kind of random, like they were desperate for someone to blame this on. Yeah here's an idea, why don't you try blaming it on the kid who actually comitted the murder? I feel kind of bad for him when stuff like this happens, but he can take care of himself. And by the way, happy 36th birthday Marilyn Manson!!

# Jan 6, 2005 @ 4:10 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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46. jessica_08 writes:

this is the most messed up thing i have ever heard of. its a freaking music video, not a murder weapon or even a decent excuse to try and bring somebody around with u. its a lot of crap. manson is one of the greatest musicians out there, and some kid is trying to mess it up for him. if ya ask me its nothing but a big load of bs. ya some songs may inspire suicide (slit my wrist) but its NO excuse....

# Jan 11, 2005 @ 6:15 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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47. angel with the scabbed wings writes:

i dont think it would be marilyn mansons falt for some f**k c*nt to go kill some one. the only thing marilyn mansons music did for me was help me be a better goth but never made me kill some one. its the fu*k fags falt that "mitchell" guy its f*cking stupid. and f*ck you, you stupid fag muffy you f*ckin fag

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48. lion rap writes:

it's so funy

# Jan 12, 2005 @ 2:01 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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49. brad writes:

about as funny as your name

# Jan 12, 2005 @ 4:56 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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50. bradhater writes:

i never got that bonus dvd god damn it. i bought the cd too. it's not on there.
b****es.

# Jan 12, 2005 @ 6:36 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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51. brokenwings13 writes:

depends on which set you bought.

got to read those labels carefully now!

# Jan 12, 2005 @ 9:10 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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52. morningstar writes:

if you want to know about cd deals, just as her. she knows when to get them.

# Jan 13, 2005 @ 3:41 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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53. antichrist writes:

they r f***ing c***s to use a Marilyn Manson video in a murder trial. that is completey twisted the guys who showed the video probably sit aat home f***ing their own mothers. that is completey stupid to use that video. i hope that those guys burn in hell for doing that he completey rules. its people like marilyn manson who built america if it wasnt for his music and others then this world woudl be just be as boring as the poeple who used the marilyn manson video in court. i say again they r c***s and they dont have a decent life. and to say something i never got that dvd either. anyone kno where i cud get it?? cause everywhere i look i never see it

# Jan 22, 2005 @ 1:08 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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54. HumanHateMachine writes:

whatever the c**ts try and stick on Manson is all just more anti media BS i bet manson just laughs it off as another attempt to blame his music not bad parenting. marilyn manson is a legend he is one of the few artist to counter his criticisms and stay a mainstream rockstar despeite everything people throw at him, here's to marilyn manson through all this BS he is still here and as controversial as ever. hope he is here for along time yet and i can take my normal well brought up kids to go see a legend and come home and sleep safely knowing they are not in the next room plotting my demise cos they are in a secure home with understanding of rights and wrongs.
The Hate Machine

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