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Dimmu Borgir Comments on Recent Firings of Vortex and Mustis

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Norwegian symphonic black metal band Dimmu Borgir have issued the following statement regarding the firings of bassist, Vortex, and keyboard player, Mustis:

"Man, what a shit storm response!

"Too bad all the shit is thrown in the wrong direction.

"Oh well, what else could we expect? We don’t blame you as you still haven’t heard the other side, the band’s side. We have put up with unprofessionalism and bad live performances for years. This couldn’t be ignored anymore as we firmly believe the fans deserve the best on both records and shows.

"First of all, a big thank you to those who still have their own mind intact and believe in the music of the band and not only judge by what is falsely accused in statements posted online by recently fired members based on their ignorance, bitterness and greed. A quite normal human response when being disappointed but we hope you kept in mind the saying that goes: 'Those who scream the loudest have the most to hide…'

"but:

"'Only when we’re calm we’ll be able to listen.'

"We have a feeling, judging from some of you and your 'jump to conclusion'- type of comments and responses, that some of the reasons that are about to be explained might as well end up as too much for you band member ‘fans’ to grasp the magnitude of, or to handle. We’ll give it a try. The true fans of the band and its music already have shown their support and understanding without us having to explain it to them in detail. But for the rest, anyways, here goes:

"Let us give you a few things to chew on - perhaps especially to those of you that have already taken sides. Some of it concerns both Vortex and Mustis collectively; some of it is separately based issues. And yes, it might come as a surprise to some of you but they were fired with a reason.

"To make it seem less of a soap opera and less embarrassing, if this is even possible at this point, for those it concerns, we’ll keep things simple and straight-to-the-point. On a side note and in comparison, just keep in mind that people have been fired for way less in this and other bands before. So for those of you who think we didn’t try and make this work and did this out of anything else but what we thought was best for the band, please think again and consider the following written words below carefully.

"At the same time, as we hate to ruin the idea of how some of you guys perceive this band and its members both in a positive and negative way, those of you who care deserve to hear the truth and here are a few excerpts, out of many, we might add.

"Let’s put things in perspective for a second: For someone to be in a band, on any level, first there’s got to be commitment and dedication, a drive and urge to do what you do, whether you’re part of the song writing process, planning the touring part, business part, the administrative part or simply just the performing part – doesn’t matter which one you’re mostly involved in. However, you need to be involved in some of it to a certain extent to be considered and treated as a member and you have to show some sort of level when it comes to responsibility, not only for yourself but for others around you as well.

"Over the course of 10 years period, there’s also something you either develop the comprehension of or you don’t (most develop this basic approach way sooner), called ‘understanding of how things are run.’ We know it sounds blunt, but it’s important that this is being enforced on behalf of everyone involved within a band and its working partners. After time, you’ve got to know and accept your place and what role you have taken and your ability therein; the sooner you do this, the better. Remember, you still - at the same time - have to continue to earn your place and work for it, respect it and nurture it like a child, even after years of success. It doesn’t come for free, it doesn’t stay for free and it doesn’t leave for free either. We’re all replaceable.

"Are you part of a band for the right reasons? And do you really want this? What are your thoughts on the aspect of being away from home over shorter and longer periods of time performing for your fans? Are you aware of the sacrifice you have to still do after all these years to be able to continue this and are you aware of the workload and the sacrifice not only theother members have done and still do, but also people working with the band in other areas have done over the years, while you haven’t? You need to do your part, or at least do an attempt to be given a fair chance of survival, even if it’s not as much. Certain simple basic things, which are spawned out of common sense, those are the things we expect from you. That’s if you want to be looked at as a member of a music group and be taken seriously. The things mentioned above are all obvious factors and basic principles you need to be square on and aware about; if not, you’re wasting yours and other people’s valuable time.

"Further down is a couple of things Vortex and Mustis simply “forgot” to mention in their previous statements respectively. Also the fact that Mustis’ statement(s) not being written by himself but by someone else means it is false accusations and have been registered as such by our lawyers.

"Lesson number one, the obvious one: Don’t forget to bring your instrument when you’re about to play a festival in which you’re going to perform in front of thousands of fans that have travelled far and paid money to see you play. Maybe you haven’t been into it so much the last couple of years and it’s - on top of that - an early flight; you feel things are a bit tedious – no worries, we all experience this from time to time but we know the deal by now after so long, and so many years. Or, so we thought.

"But, we shouldn’t have to remind you to bring your own instrument to a gig. For that there’s no excuse, neither will we accept one.

"Lesson number two, a less obvious one and can easily be forgotten while under the influence but still: Don’t hurt yourself in an alcoholic rage smashing a glass to your forehead putting yourself, your band 'mates,' crew, not to mention the show(s), in jeopardy. Remember, the money you care so much about getting, compared to the minimal of effort you put in won’t be paid out to you or anyone else in the band if the show(s) doesn’t happen. You have responsibility. We suspect this weren’t part of your calculation, obviously none of us are perfect but as a grown up person, we expect more.

"Luckily for you, the make up covers the cut from the smashed glass on your forehead onstage. You did manage to get away with general bullshit, classical cocky rock star attitude and carelessness – this time too. You wouldn’t get away with it at home around your family so what makes you think it’s fine to behave like an asshole around your band members, your family away from home? On-stage equals posing, off-stage it’s a no-no.

"But, contrary to other times in the past, there simply won’t be another chance and you know so goddamn well why you’re not given yet another. Suddenly, we’re the bad guys because you expected another shot out of mere habit, just because we were too nice in the past to grant you another one and another one. Your stage sound and set-up we won’t bother to address anymore. Your stage performance lately we won’t bother to mention either. You know why you’re not part of this band anymore, don’t make excuses and make it look like it’s someone else’s fault when you very well know it was you alone who put you where you are right now.

"Now, auctioning off your band’s most recent album on eBay, only signed by yourself, can’t be looked upon in any other ways as pure greed, not to mention mockery, towards the rest of the members of the band that you’re still in, AND the fans. Attempting to sell a CD of the last album (which you can still get hold of in shops) with only your signature on it for the highest bid is a remarkably low act.

"Instead of getting hold of some work to do, if money is what you so desperately seem to be needing (while you actually maybe rather should be considering working on ideas for a new album if you’re so concerned about being credited correctly), you rather believe the easiest and fastest way to money must simply be to start a blackmailing procedure against the other members in the band holding important files as ransom - files that are the band’s property which we need for future projects that would bring you money later eventually, in one way or another. Now it won’t. Not a very smart and thought out thing to do. Not to mention the fans now have to wait for these special releases because your ego for some odd reason is hurt and in total control.

"These files, which we handed over to you in good trust over a year ago as a band member and what we’d consider a brother despite your lazy ass, not surprisingly you haven’t even touched it as part as bonus features special of a re-release campaign including certain albums.

"Instead, you threaten to sue your fellow band members for neglect and not treating you right monetary wise. Isn’t it typical? You both want to harvest the fruits, but putting labour into it yourself is not so important. See how long that’ll last in real life. Ironically, it lasted this long with the band, finally now that time is over.

"This shouldn’t be acceptable. So what do we do? We don’t accept it. After all these years wiping people’s asses and feeding their mouths, we’re forced to take on another strict angle, like you do with kids when nothing else works. To be forced to almost constantly spend energy on dragging someone to practice for instance and be part of a unit – a force, is tedious for the rest of us. Always an excuse not to do what’s expected of you.

"To the best of our efforts, we’ve tried to explain over and over, again and again how the business side of things work, but when ignorance is bliss and the people it concerns fail to even meet at band business meetings, later not understanding and realizing because of the obvious fact that they weren’t present, the deal is then suddenly we’re 'hiding something' and 'I must get ripped off, there’s no other logical explanation!'

"Sounds familiar to some of you readers?

"But on the contrary, we’ve not been afraid of encouraging the use and exploration of talents of other members elsewhere while still being in the band. We have even handed over major projects on a silver plate but to not even bother replying to such offers speaks volumes. We can’t do that job for you too. What about the talk of a certain ‘solo’ project for the last 10 years? Where is it? Talk, that’s what it is. Talk and no action.

"Still complaining, not trusting your partners for the last 10 years when receiving a pay check, worth way beyond your song 'writing' ability and what you’re already credited for is fair in your eyes. It’s amusing and at the same time sad to see how little reflective and humble grown people can be sometimes; or in this particular case, most of the time.

"Stop acting like composers and song writers until you have written and released something on your own that’s worthwhile and we’ll see how well you do. To quote Vortex in his very own statement; 'I have really enjoyed the ride!' Sure you have, it’s been for free! Either because of lack of interest, dedication, understanding and capability or all of those.

"So a word of advice: For those of you who’d wish and would want to work with either of these guys in the future, please be prepared to discuss business first since the art of music comes secondary.

"We believe there’s no need to go into further details; it’ll be highly embarrassing. It already is for the rest of us and most sane people get the point by now. If you feel you haven’t been appreciated, this goes for both, then why did you accept the large sums of money all these years that has been handed out to you? It was convenient, wasn’t it?

"For how much longer should we accept a service on stage that has slowly deteriorated over the last few years which we know other bands wouldn’t tolerate, seeing as your performance simply wasn’t good enough and your self critical view was like zero. Explain that.

"But you wanted the cash, pretty typical. Give someone something even if they don’t deserve it just to keep everyone happy and they want more of it. Don’t take credit for something you haven’t written. If you knew how to arrange and write a song, you would have already, just like the rest of us. But no, your lazy ass is too ‘busy’ complaining about not getting what is 'rightfully' and 'legally' yours.

"Funny then, how the new album is halfway finished written already by the rest of us without any of these guys’ input, still having all those elements we’re known for. Even having obligations and work with other bands simultaneously on the side.

"But those who still believe in the band and its music, and not in recently fired members’ bitterness, greed and fear of what’s around the corner, will understand this when the next opus is out. We could write a book about previous members’ and their separate reasons why they’re not in the band anymore, but we believe you don’t want to hear most of it by now.

"This wasn’t an issue of the typical 'musical differences' bullshit statement either. Other bands cover up their shit with that worn out excuse, but musical differences is exactly what makes this band sounding unique. Sadly, some of the members lost the focus along the way; some people close to the band will say they did that a long time ago, and for that there was simply nothing we could do anymore. We can’t force people to do something they obviously don’t want or care about. We tried - but they didn’t. Our patience and goodwill is not everlasting. So for those of you who still think we owe them more than a phone call or an e-mail letting them know their 'services' are no longer wanted and needed, think again. We just had enough and for that we’re not sorry. We’re only sorry it didn’t work out in the end.

"And to those who think greed played a part in this, so absolutely, and now you know whose careers are run by it and whose isn’t.

"See you soon,

"Galder, Shagrath & Silenoz"

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40 Comments on "Dimmu Borgir Comments on Recent Member Firings"

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1. Blashyrkh writes:

they're making numerous (vague) (rambling) claims about why they fired mustis and vortex, but it just seems so irrational to just fire them becuase someone smashes a bottle on his head or someone forgets their instrument. sure, if they're a small time band with only a demo to their name then that's what you do for the good of the band, but they're not giving a sh** for the FANS enjoyment! the fans don't want 2 members to be fired! it sounds like they stubbed their toe so they've sawn off the leg!

# Sep 2, 2009 @ 3:36 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. That_One_Guy writes:

Having been in several bands myself, I can say that it really does get tiring when things like that happen frequently. I don't think I could put up with it for ten years...

# Sep 2, 2009 @ 4:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. Jamez writes:

T_O_G, while I agree with you 100%, man, I gotta say, when there's a response in a situation like this that's almost 3 pages long, it sounds like a bunch of excuses.

I would have kept my mouth shut in this case and left the past issues alone

# Sep 2, 2009 @ 4:27 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. anon writes:

that's not a "comment", that's a book. drama queens, all of them. seriously, play music. or not.

# Sep 2, 2009 @ 5:25 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. GORECUNT writes:

Well...That was long-winded. I have to admit, it was an amusing read.

# Sep 2, 2009 @ 5:28 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. Blindgreed1 writes:

I understand completely why this was written vaguely and at such great length. There are already legal procedings written so in order to protect themselves they have to be vague. In addition, a thorough explanation as opposed to sh!t slinging is a preferred communication IMO. There is no room for unprofessionalism when you are as successful as Dimmu. It also sounds to me that they have extended many opportunities for these two to change and get with the program; all to no avail. I know someone who can get me some insider information tonight. Either way, I still feel as though the Dimmu machine will keep on churning.

# Sep 2, 2009 @ 5:31 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. RTB writes:

^4 agreed, that was more like a full harry potter triliogy rather than a statement,...i really havent taken sides on this matter, i just want these guys to squash it, grow up, and move on, is it that fahqn hard?...
Its getting pretty ugly...bg you get something for us on this spill it...it would be much appreciated

# Sep 2, 2009 @ 6:16 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. Blindgreed1 writes:

RTB: Absolutely. He sent the text today and should hear back by the weekend at the very latest. My buddy is pretty tight with Shagrath and Silenoz. Not so much with Galder because he made fun of his Dogbert tattoo. lol.

# Sep 2, 2009 @ 6:39 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. RememberMetal? writes:

Ick...it's gonna take me 3 sittings to get through that....

Till then I'm neutral on this, it's possibly the whole bands fault...

# Sep 2, 2009 @ 6:46 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. b.bristowe writes:

Bah, Honestly even half of any of this was true. I would still kick them out. When you have reached such a large fan base and spread your music so wide. You can't afford to be f***ing up. Human error is human error, but immaturity and lack of preparation is practically an insult to your mates.

That being said, there are 1 million better musicians for every Vortex. I'm sure Dimmu will pull through and come out on top with their next release.

# Sep 2, 2009 @ 7:13 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. dmasa writes:

"For someone to be in a band, on any level, first there’s got to be commitment and dedication, a drive and urge to do what you do, whether you’re part of the song writing process, planning the touring part, business part, the administrative part or simply just the performing part"---so very true

# Sep 2, 2009 @ 8:16 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. RememberMetal? writes:

Been listening to (some albums more enthusiastically than others) these guys for 10 years--I'll still check out the next one...Though the absence of Vortex and Mustis will be sorely felt it'll be interesting to see just what kind of impact this all will have.

I wasn't there so I can't judge the band or the former members.

# Sep 2, 2009 @ 8:27 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. DeathInEye writes:

I would fire someone the first time they forget their instrument. You're in a BAND. That'd be like d***ens forgetting his pencil, van Gogh forgetting his paint...Wtf?

# Sep 2, 2009 @ 8:51 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. deathbringer writes:

It is a long-winded explanation when it sounds like it basically boils down to motivation and responsibility. In the end, that's their choice to fire the band members and I'd say lack of motivation or responsibility are good enough reasons without a doubt. They obviously feel the need to over-explain due to the heat they are getting from the "fans" but sometimes you just need to resist the urge. The end result of seeing the dirt from behind the scenes of the band or biz doesn't do anyone any good in the end.

# Sep 2, 2009 @ 11:37 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. the goose goblin writes:

I felt this was a very elegant explanation, and quite frankly I do sympathize with the 'band,' having been in the same situation with unmotivated colleagues. It doesn't matter whether I'm in a band, at school, or at work, if one of my partners isn't pulling his/her own weight, I'm not working with them anymore. Good luck with the new record.

# Sep 3, 2009 @ 1:38 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. Zukros writes:

Well ... that statement did all it needed to for DB, and I kinda get the reason for all this now (justified too, it seems), but still, Vortex and Mustis brought many aspects I loved to the 'Dimmu borgir sound', and I don't think, for me at least, it'll ever be quite the same band to listen to. =/

have to admit, i'm glad it wasn't just a 'creative differences statement for once.

# Sep 3, 2009 @ 5:33 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. Jamez writes:

Well the thing is, after a statement like that, this´ll never end. Like a divorced couple arguing over who did and what

# Sep 3, 2009 @ 7:16 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. Analguest writes:

listen to old dimmu and then to last 3 albums and tell me mustis and vortex had no significance to the bands development and art.
a lot of sh**ty excuses given but to forget your instrument isn't the biggest crime,they are all humans, get intoxicated like us, get stressed like us and simply forget like us.

talking about harming themselves kvarfoth should quit shining.
novy behemoth's previous bassist jumped out from the window on the 3 floor-they put it on dvd no hard feelings

but i guess when you as a band finally get big and start making money that's when all that is the worst comes out of people,people feeling they are not appreciated enough,some feeling they work harder than others therefore should get more money etc, similar things happened to bigger bands look at metallica or black sabbath it's sad but money really rules the world

# Sep 3, 2009 @ 9:37 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. bananaterracottapie1 writes:

What a bunch of assclowns. Never cared much for these drama queens anyway. Old Man's Child, on the other hand is simply kickass!

# Sep 3, 2009 @ 1:36 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. GORECUNT writes:

analguest: What DVD are you talking about? And can I download it anywhere?

# Sep 3, 2009 @ 11:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. RememberMetal? writes:

post 19

second the OMC part but I still like Dimmu. If this puts more emphasis on Galdar and Silenoz, it might mean a riff and lead heavy Dimmu album--which could be great.

# Sep 3, 2009 @ 11:53 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. Analguest writes:

crush.f***.create - you can buy it , don't know any links to it.

# Sep 4, 2009 @ 9:20 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. hk writes:

kik ass

# Sep 4, 2009 @ 9:27 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. GORECUNT writes:

Oh! I know about that DVD! I couldn't find anywhere to buy it, and I went to the Behemoth site

# Sep 4, 2009 @ 1:07 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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25. GORECUNT writes:

And I wouldn't have put my input on the Dimmu situation otherwise (They're not my favorite band, so them losing members doesn't really efect me). But right now I'm in the middle of bumf*** nowhere in VA waiting for my uncle to finish up whatever he's needed for at this funeral (I'd have gone in the church to pay respects-even though I don't know the guy who died, but I lack a suit at the moment, and this behemoth t-shirt has something blasphemous on it). So I have the next 2-3 hours to respond to something in depth:

You can dissect this situation in many ways. and the ways you can dissect it can easily say just about anything, whether its siding with Mustis and Vortex, or if its siding with Dimmu. And I can honestly understand both sides of this and their respective sentiments. But one has to bear in mind the majority rule of the situation first and foremost. And also the responses from each faction of the band. While Dimmu's response is vague, like blindgreed mentioned earlier, because its a legal situation, they have to be somewhat vague until the case fills itself out. As the case furthers we should be able to get a full understanding of both sides of the situation.

Now, on the same token, while we understand the case better over time, we won't truly know who was a contributing factor of Dimmu until the next two albums. I say the next TWO albums for good measure because:

1) You can't say the next album after firing the two because we don't know if Dimmu's next album is gonna use anything that Mustis and Vortex left behind. So you have to hear the next TWO so just in case the first album without them sounds familiar to the previous albums, the second album afterward definitely shows their absence. If the sound remains the same, then we know who did or didn't contribute to the band.

This isn't one of those bands where its obvious where the talent is (e.g. Pantera). So you can't just go "Well, you can tell who contributed just listen to the difference between old Dimmu and new Dimmu" For all you know it could've been Dimmu the whole time, just a change in dynamic which would've happened with/without Mustis.

And for the record: Once again, I'm not a big Dimmu fan. I like them, just not as much as I do other bands.

Personal thought: Why are all the Norwegian black metal bands suing each other? I miss the days when they just killed each other and burned churches. lulz. Seriously if Gorgoroth and Dimmu had these issues in the 90s, Gaahl would've killed Infernus and Silenoz and Shagrath would've gotten their hands dirty killing Vortex and Mustis.

Oh, and while I'm at it: Arcturus is f***ing gay. I just had to put that out there.

Now Playing: Shadows Fall - Failure of the Devout (Sirius XM is on the Metal channel in this car I'm sitting in.)

# Sep 4, 2009 @ 1:50 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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26. fernanda writes:

este grupo es de lo mejor saben se oos recomiendo

# Sep 4, 2009 @ 10:09 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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27. Analguest writes:

i think arcturus is gey same therion bt it is simple maths look at the difference between spiritual black dimensions and purita nical euphoric misanthropia common without that album there wold be no dimmu or they would be as popular as any other norwegian second league black metal band. im not saying who is right i am saying that thoose guys were the push that made this band move.dimmu is one of my favourite bands and it's hard to experience this situation.


what t-shirt have you got??

i have the one saying christians to the lions and ther one crucify the whore

behemoth rocks but without first listening to dimmu i would have never gotten into behemoth even though we are from the same country

# Sep 4, 2009 @ 11:47 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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28. GORECUNT writes:

Analguest: I have the behemoth one that says "Eat the weak, f*** the flesh, slit the throat, consume the dead" on the back.

# Sep 5, 2009 @ 9:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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29. Analguest writes:

ahhhhh sweeet unfortunately it is not available in europe ;(

# Sep 6, 2009 @ 1:58 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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30. GORECUNT writes:

f***ing gay man.

# Sep 6, 2009 @ 12:53 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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31. metalfan653 writes:

sellling a cd with one signatuar... that was pretty dumb but i hope votex and dimmu borgir can both continue making albums

# Sep 6, 2009 @ 9:36 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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32. utoad9 writes:

Wow...this whole mellodrama should've been filmed. It would've made a great documentery. If this long, somewhat rambling statement is true, the band was justified in the firings. This statement should be required reading for any replacements.

# Sep 6, 2009 @ 10:59 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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33. GORECUNT writes:

Actually utoad, I was thinking a bit on this: This little bit of drama would make for a good episode of "Metalocalypse"

# Sep 7, 2009 @ 2:29 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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34. HE HE HE HE writes:

well , lol.......that was a lot of f***ing reading for me. I gotta say I was p***ed at the band for kicking them out but after reading the article I have to say Im with Dimmu on this.....In many diff levels I cant tell you how many times youre in a group/meeting and one or few members
who doesnt want to do sh** and u have to force them to add their 2 cents...its f***ing annoying to say the least and i think they deserved to get kicked out.

at the end of the day ...with all this drama....at least im glad to read new album is half way done...sh** ..it might be done by now.

# Sep 7, 2009 @ 11:42 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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35. HE HE HE HE writes:

And for all of those who say Dimmu is crying way too much...guess what....Imagine everywhere you go they ask u the same sh** time and time again? imagine that? go ahead and give them a 10 sec answer as to what happened? youre going to get bombarded with more qsts...Im with Dimmu all the way....its annoying!!!

# Sep 7, 2009 @ 6:31 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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36. GORECUNT writes:

Moar liek, Dimmu Boring, amirite?

# Sep 7, 2009 @ 7:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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37. Blindgreed1 writes:

Okay, so here's the reply from my sources in a nutshell: The parting with the bass player was fairly mutual. He has an issue with alcohol and wasn't really into it anymore. Especially being on the road. The keyboardist is where all the flaming is comming from and this statement (above) came on the heels of a lot of trashing that he was doing to defend his own ego and set a precedence.

# Sep 8, 2009 @ 11:10 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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38. GORECUNT writes:

Blindgreed: wow

# Sep 8, 2009 @ 12:37 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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39. Blindgreed1 writes:

Gore: Yeah, it's very political at this point, but I don't doubt for a minute that Dimmu will be just fine. The business end and writing machine is still firmly intact.

# Sep 8, 2009 @ 1:32 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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40. Hammerheart writes:

Blind -- I couldn't agree more. Dimmu did just fine on their first 3 albums without Vortex or Mustis.

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