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Suffocation Posts New Song, "Blood Oath," Online

New York based extreme metal legends SUFFOCATION have made the title track to their new album, "Blood Oath," available for listening exclusively online here.

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1. Manny Mann writes:

Aw yes. It's about time they released this. Loves me some Suffocation.

# Jun 19, 2009 @ 6:30 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. That_One_Guy writes:

Great song. Very excited about this album!

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 12:54 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. Cynic writes:

Not much to say here, brutal.

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 6:27 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. I know more than you writes:

not really a fan of death metal. its all cookie monster and about killing. no real lyrical topics. the only death metal bands i like are in flames and arch enemy.

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 6:30 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. I know more than you writes:

^ but those bands are more thrash then anything and just have death metal vox, so ya know...

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 6:31 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. Cynic writes:

Arch Enemy and In Flames, f***ing lol kiddo - head back to pre-school before your mum gets worried. I'm not even going to bother...

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 6:46 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. My Left Dick writes:

Is it just me who's having trouble getting this song to work? I'll try their Myspace or something.

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 6:48 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. I know more than you writes:

oh yeah cynic arch enemy isnt legit. have you even heard there music? its melodic death/thrash perfected. amott is a f***ing genius. better than that boring drone minimalism doom and annoying growl grunt death sh** you like. listen to real metal for a change and you'll understand.

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 6:56 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. Cynic writes:

I didn't say they weren't legit, I'm just laughing at the fact someone who has no clue about death metal likes the sort of bands 13 year olds get into metal by.

Also judging at this page (www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=10), it seems all they've perfected is mediocrity. At least the people in drone bands are trying to do something original, there isn't an original bone in AE's body besides Gossow.

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 7:02 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. Diamond Oz writes:

Personally I've never liked Arch Enemy, don't have anything against them, just don't see what's supposed to be so great about them. Have you tried doom metal bands like Cathedral or Orange Goblin? You might like them more than what you seem to think doom metal is all about.

Regarding the lyrical debate, whether death metal really is all about killing (which it isn't, see Obituary for environmental messages and such) those lyrics definitely have their place under the metal umbrella, so it's not nessacarily a bad thing.

Now playing: Cathedral - Corpsecycle

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 7:06 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. I know more than you writes:

okay, cynic so you looked up a bunch of reviews by other ppl on a different site. that doesnt tell me you've heard them. check out the album rise of tyrants and live album burning japan and then get back to me. if you still arent convinced, then i take it that thrash isnt ur cup of tea. which is completely fine and understandable. its not for everyone. just because i like an 'intro to metal band' (wtf does that mean anyway? if they sell tshirts at hot topic there an intro band? no a metal band is a metal band period.) theres good and bad metal alike.

diamond oz the environmental issues deal with the 'killing' of the environment yes? different context, but still about killing. ive heard and dont like cathedral. orange goblin is for stoners.

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 7:16 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. I know more than you writes:

oh yeah. and whats original about 2 chords drawn out for a f***ing hour man? nothing. takes zero talent and creativity to do that.

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 7:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. Diamond Oz writes:

Killing the environment and chopping peoples heads off or whatever can't really be compared in my opinion. Regarding Arch Enemy though, wasn't Michael Ammot the founder of Carcass? What's your opinion on them?

I'm not a stoner and never have been by the way, neither are several friends of mine who like Orange Goblin, though I'm sure they would sound even better stoned! Have you ever seen a doom metal band live? It's good fun man.

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 7:27 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. Cynic writes:

Nothing wrong with intro to metal bands, it's just doesn't it seem quite convenient that someone listening to such bands also has a very limited about extreme metal genres? Sounds like a case of being 14 to me. My point is, you should never be narrow minded about genres you know nothing about, I mean seriously, read post 4 again to yourself. "then i take it that thrash isnt ur cup of tea" - LOL. It is don't worry about that.

As for AE, I've just never liked them. A friend gave me maybe "Wages of Sin" and another album to listen to a few years ago now, and I thought they were very generic. Felt like I'd heard it all before and couldn't release the stigma of the fact I thought they were well known just because they had a female doing death metal vocals. If you like them cool, they're just not my thing.

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# Jun 20, 2009 @ 7:29 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. Cynic writes:

"oh yeah. and whats original about 2 chords drawn out for a f***ing hour man? nothing. takes zero talent and creativity to do that." - Ughh... I don't feel to well... is it possible to get die from an ignorance overload...?? Please stop. I recently saw a drone act Oren Ambarchi - he was touring the Universities giving lectures to music students (hint, hint).

"Regarding Arch Enemy though, wasn't Michael Ammot the founder of Carcass? What's your opinion on them?" - BLEEAURCHCH!! I hate when Amott gets credit for Carcass material - he was a hired lead guitarist and nothing more.

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 7:33 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. Fuck_A_Name writes:

Cynic never heard Arch enemy or in flames? haha. Anyone on this site who HASNT heard AE or IF is an ignoramus. In flames being one of the founders of the gothenburg swedish melodic death metal scene, and Arch Enemy being a flag-bearer of the same genre, not to mention having such strong ties to Carcass, death/grind legends rivaled only by Napalm Death as far as I'm concerned, the chances of anyone who actually listens to the underground NOT hearing them are phenomenal. And Cynic is one of the few on here that actually DIVES into the underground, searching for the next rediculous venture in music, and simultaneosly gathering forgotten gems of ages past. I'm sure he KNOWS MORE THAN YOU do about both of those bands.

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# Jun 20, 2009 @ 7:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. Fuck_A_Name writes:

^it's funny,I typed that out before you posted cynic, didnt expect to see you here defending your name at the exact same time lol

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 7:37 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. I know more than you writes:

do you like thrash cynic? the reason i asumed that waz because AE i see as a cornerstone to the genre and if you dont like AE you probably dont like thrash in general. im not 13 or 14 or 12 or stupid and ignorant. i do know lots about death metal and doom metal and i dont listen to it because i dont like it ever. name me a death band that doesnt growl or grunt or a doom band that isnt slow? yeah, thats wat i thought.

diamond oz if you kill the environment it eventually leads to the killing of ppl. so i see those as more related than you give credit too. i havent seen a doom band live because i dont need to pay money to fall asleep. whos carcass? if amott started that band i have to check them out because im sure its amazing!

btw im a very experienced and knowlegable metalhead and probably (wel look at my screenname)

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 7:40 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. Diamond Oz writes:

Sorry Cynic, not too familiar with the history of Carcass, only been getting into death metal the last few months, as you said, it takes years to get into death and black metal. My point being though that he was a member of Carcass who are regarded as legends in the death metal/grindcore genres, so I'm interested to hear what the opinion is on his involvement with them.

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 7:41 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. I know more than you writes:

cynic that guy from that drone band just because he is very well educated in music doesnt make his music any more original

yeah okay f*** a name. i get it by now. ur all friends and im the new guy. blah blah.

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 7:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. Diamond Oz writes:

"i havent seen a doom band live because i dont need to pay money to fall asleep"

Not nessacarily. I've seen Orange Goblin and Arch Enemy live and OG was much more exciting live in my opinion. I got really bored, really quickly watching them. I definitely wouldn't call them a cornerstone of thrash either, I'd give credit like that to the originals like Exodus.

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 7:45 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. Cynic writes:

"the reason i asumed that waz because AE i see as a cornerstone to the genre" - Are you trying to make me cry?! How could a band formed in **1995** (!!!) be a corner stone of a genre created in 1982!! Your "experienced and knowledge" isn't looking so good at the moment.

"name me a death band that doesnt growl or grunt or a doom band that isnt slow? yeah, thats wat i thought." - Eh? Next you'll be wanting me to name a shade of red with no red in it.

Oh and of course Diamond Oz is wrong, also Britney Spears sings about killing all the time, because we all know that love is really a killing of hate. AMOTT DID NOT START CARCASS. Jesus.

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 7:48 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. Cynic writes:

Major sarcasm in that last paragraph btw. Understood Oz - the short story is Carcass made some awesome grind, then some awesome technical death metal, then Amott joined, then they made some pretty good MDM. And yes IKMTY - I do like thrash. You might even say I know a hell of a lot about it.

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 7:52 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. I know more than you writes:

cynic that is a lame counterpoint. worse than 'no taste' ungodlike/blindgreed and poser terminators retorts at me combined in diff threads. killing hate isnt killing ppl. not every thrash band formed in the 80s became important. AE has earned there importance and being as how theyre one of the top 10 biggest thrash bands around (fan wise and quality wise) if feel that they have earned cornerstone status. i dont know who carcass is but if amott was apart of it im sure is fantastic. i swear i feel like the only one who knows anything about metal here f***ing horsesh** guys goddam.

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 7:58 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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25. Diamond Oz writes:

I see. Which album do you reccomend the most? The only death metal/ grindcore bands I'm really into at the moment are Suffocation, Cannibal Corpse and Napalm Death so I need a bit of schooling lol.

On topic. I was so happy to see this album comes out earlier in Europe!

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 7:59 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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26. I know more than you writes:

well cynic if you do like thrash and know a lot about it than i would have figured you would have recognized the importance of AE thats all.

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 8:00 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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27. Diamond Oz writes:

Are you saying Exodus was formed in the late 80s?

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 8:02 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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28. I know more than you writes:

diamond oz what?

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 8:06 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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29. Diamond Oz writes:

Sorry I misread your post. All the same, by the statement "not every thrash band formed in the 80s became important" after I dropped Exodus into the mix, it makes it seem like you're saying Exodus aren't important to the thrash movement.

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 8:08 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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30. Cynic writes:

Are they one of the biggest bands in metal, yep. Are they thrash metal? No. You know nothing about metal if you think AE is thrash. End of story, curtain closed, goodnight. Listen to "Bonded By Blood", "Ride The Lightning", "Feel The Fire", "The Legacy", "Hell Awaits", "Darkness Descends", "Beneath The Remains" etc. back to back, and then listen to any AE.

I'm pretty much resigned to ending this argument soon, it's like hitting my head against a brick wall, where the bricks are made of mallcore. Don't confuse him Oz, he probably hasn't heard of Exodus.

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 8:12 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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31. I know more than you writes:

no, exodus was very important. i put AE in the top 10. i certainly rank exodus in there as well. but my point was that important thrash bands should not be limited to the 80s. just as i think municipal waste is a vitally important band to this new wave of thrash revival period.

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 8:13 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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32. I know more than you writes:

cynic i guess what bands belong to wat genre is about opinon. my opinion is that AE plays thrashy music that i can move to, so i call them thrash.

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 8:16 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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33. I know more than you writes:

and cynic i dont appreciate being likened to mallcore bcuz i like AE and In Flames and not super underground doom and death.

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 8:17 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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34. Diamond Oz writes:

Here's a genre debate for you. What genre would you call Venom? This one never gets old! Personally I call them a thrash band.

Now playing: Orange Goblin - Beginner's Guide To Suicide

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 8:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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35. metalheaddrummer101 writes:

well, this is fun to read...just my two cents...

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 8:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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36. I know more than you writes:

blackened-thrash

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 8:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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37. Cynic writes:

Well then, it's my opinion that people like yourself are incredibly annoying - people like you misrepresent bands, tours and albums, give bad advice and band recommendations, all of which resulting in me wasting my money and time.

I apologize for the mallcore remark. But... seriously, read post 4. You sound like incredibly immature.

Damn it Oz I'm trying to wrap things up!! Speed/thrash/black. They're the sort of band which it's not very sensible to give a tag, because they need a sentence to explain the intricacy of calling them black metal.

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 8:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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38. I know more than you writes:

by stereotyping me the way you just have, look in the mirror if you want to find immature.

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 8:25 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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39. Cynic writes:

I didn't stereotype you, I insulted you because I think you're ignorant. However I apologized, if you want to pack a sad about it go ahead it won't bother me. The whole reason I wrote any of this is because in post 4 you put forward an incredibly ignorant and immature statement that would see you laughed off most metal sites.

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 8:32 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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40. Fuck_A_Name writes:

What bands belong to what genre is about the defined qualities of the music in question and how they can be classified. (this refers to post 32, I'm sure by the time I hit "post" there will be eight more comments waiting for me)

Hate Eternal makes me have an impending feeling of doom when I listen to them. They are not doom metal. They are death. Arch enemy may make you feel "thrashy" but they are most certaintly not thrash. Melodic death metal is the closest thing I can put my finger on.

BTW, does Black Sabbath bore you? Last I checked, they are doom metal. they are in fact the exact standard by which that genre is defined.

And no, it's not "We're all friends" it's more like, I'm trying to tell you why you're wrong about these people. you keep on accusing people of knowing jack sh**, and then cant seem to admit that you yourself might be lacking in knowledge. I'm just trying to close the gap between the uselessly warring factions on here IKMTY.

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# Jun 20, 2009 @ 8:33 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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41. metalheaddrummer101 writes:

f***in' suffo. that's all I can say. I f***ing love this band

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 9:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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42. metalheaddrummer101 writes:

sorry, just trying to stay on topic :P

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 9:36 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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43. Terminator writes:

Judas fvcking Priest IKMTY! Are you kidding me? ARCH ENEMY IS NOT THRASH METAL! *Reapeat X 1000* Neither is In Flames. I find it ironic how you hate death metal yet enjoy a subgenre of it - melodic death metal. I don't think you fully understand the subgenre of thrash nor the divides between subgenres. Opinion has a roll in taste, but I believe the description of music categorization is pretty standardized and much less debatable. (However, the more specific you get, the more opinion comes into play. But the basics we're discussing here is pretty black and white). You seem (yes, I am stereotyping you based on your ignorant views here) like the type who considers everything good as thrash and everything that isnt "your incorrect definition of thrash" sucks.

You like AE. Fine, as has been stated they are a very popular band and I know a lot of metalheads that like them - or if not at least respect them. I never really cared for them but that's my opinion. You are more than entitled to have your tastes and preferences, but you are flat out wrong with your interpretation of thrash if you include AE in that subgenre. I can understand not liking and closing my mind to an entire subgenre after enough exposure (for me deathcore and metalcore I will no longer give any chance to), but considering the many similarities between thrash and death, I would guess that you haven't dug very far in a very deep subgenre. Doom can take some getting used to, but bands like St. Vitus and at the very least Candlemass are worth exploring.

I also find it perplexing how someone who claims to be "very knowledgable" in metal can not have even heard of Carcass. Especially a huge AE fan with all of the misconceptions that tie the two bands together. Did you crawl under that rock or are you just stuck? With your ignorant know-it-all attitude and mallcore caliber statements, I'm going with both.

Not to further poke the bear, but its festering scum like you that have infected metal with posers and ignorant scene kids that think they've got the inside track because they read 'Hit Parader', listen to HardAtack on Sirius (98% Metalcore), go to Hot Topic for fashion advice and calls the local radio station for music recommendations.

Christ kid, metal can be learned if the passion and open-mindedness is there, but there comes a point where you either get it or you don't and never will. And as of this post you most certainly do not.

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# Jun 20, 2009 @ 9:46 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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44. Terminator writes:

Button pushed lol

# Jun 20, 2009 @ 9:56 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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45. Manny Mann writes:

You know, this place really needs a chat room or a proper bb. Even I'm getting tired of sub-genre-ing my metal on my ipod. Suffocation is brutal-death, Slayer is thrash, Arch Enemy is melodic death, Priest is traditional, Candlemass is doom, but they all fall under METAL and that's the main thing. Plus all these new sub-genres that have come out over the past 10 years like metalcore and deathgrind and such? An old bastard like me can't keep up with them all.

# Jun 21, 2009 @ 7:31 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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46. Jackrum writes:

nice bit of Suffo

# Jun 21, 2009 @ 7:56 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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47. deathfreak writes:

IKMTY- Really You know alot about metal. AE is not thrash. Aanthrax, Megadeth, Slayer, Metallica, Sodom, Destruction, kreator, Testament , venom ect those are f***ing coner stones in thrash. AE is a f***ing blip on the radar screen compared to them.
You dont like death metal but you like a sub genra. Death, with out them bands like AE Most likely would not be around.
Doom metal is not for stoners only. Thousand of people are perfectly sober and still listen to it.
You Know almost nothing outside of AE and other bands like them. So take the time to learn a bit about metal as a whole and not just one sub genra. Then come back and try again. Im sure some one MU would be willing to help.

NP Eyehategod Blood Money

# Jun 21, 2009 @ 12:08 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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48. I know more than you writes:

so cynic you are clearly the leader of the pack here, aren't you? whatever you say or whatever your opinion is everyone else will rally up to echoe you no matter what. im probably the first one to ever challenge your views on genres and metal arent i? no need to get so defensive, im here as a fan with diffrent point of view. and thats okay. no one else probably has the balls to differ from you and debate about genres with you anyway.

deathfreak thats all been said so ur post didnt add anything new.

at least i like metal. diamond oz likes rap and numetal and no one beats him up about it. yet i get targeted for not being "acurate" enough bout metal. f*** give me a f***ing break. not that thats bad diamond oz, i like non metal stuff too. i just find it confusing.

terminator i still think that ur an a$$hole poser that only follows the popular opinion of the room. im sure you just look up bands on a diff site like cynic and name drop. im not dumb enough to fall for it. learn about real metal f*** head. ur post contradicted itself a lot too.

i never really believed in genres and subgenres and the reason i dont care about them is because i think they cause a lot of unnecessary tension between metal fans and we should be sticking together instead of fighting about nothing. its all metal right? the only two genres of music there truly are is good and bad. if music is good i listen to it. if i dont like it i dont listen to it. i agree with manny man. no need for worthless labelling at all, enough said.

# Jun 21, 2009 @ 1:46 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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49. I know more than you writes:

and yes f*** a name black sabbathe does bore me.

# Jun 21, 2009 @ 1:55 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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50. Jenny writes:

"at least i like metal. diamond oz likes rap and numetal and no one beats him up about it. yet i get targeted for not being "acurate" enough bout metal. f*** give me a f***ing break. not that thats bad diamond oz, i like non metal stuff too. i just find it confusing."

Metalheads have every right to be open to all kinds of Music and not get hated for it, but when someone claims to know a lot, and in the end they don't really know what they're talking about, THAT'S confusing to the rest of us. I mean, you claim to like certain sub-genres but in the end you say you don't believe in sub-genres. (This has been said, I know, but you have to admit that's confusing.)

It's ok not to always know the "accurate" names of genres and sub-genres and such, but if you don't even believe in that, you should've just said, "I like Metal bands like (insert band names here)" rather than "I like Thrash Metal and Melodic Death, like (insert band names here)".

Towards other people, Terminator doesn't deserve the things you've been saying about him. You don't even have proof that someone is being a "poser". You're just saying that without having any facts. Same goes with telling Terminator and Cynic that they simply name drop. Telling people to go learn about real Metal doesn't fly well when you don't even know their actual tastes/if you're just trying to fill in the blanks to look tough.

I don't know you very well, but from what I've read it just seems like you want to pick a fight with everyone just cuz you view things differently. I would honestly respect you if you were humble about the fact that you're not always accurate from the beginning, that's all.

Metalheads should stick together; arguing to get some knowledge/skill out of it is good, but no one should resolve to making assumptions/calling people something they are not without hard reason. Just note that if people have a similar opinion, it's not cuz they're following, they simply agree with one another. People here debate/discuss things all the time; it keeps threads flowing.

If you have the capacity, please consider taking a more mature approach with your responses.

# Jun 21, 2009 @ 2:52 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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51. deathfreak writes:

IKMTY dude You claim not to listem to poser thrash or not be one you self. Yet you list trivium, bury your dead, all that remains as thrash. Trivium are the pinnical of poser thrash. the lead singer is a b****. He tried to stop a fight in a mosh. with the exception of in flames and lamb of god most of the music you have posted has been metalcore or deathcore or what ever core band. And you still claim that you know more that any one. Here is some good thrash tankard, anthrax, slayer, Municipal Waste, Testament, Nuclear Assault. Jesus Christ dude If anyone is a poser here its you.
A side from what i just said What real Metal bands do you like. Listin to what you want but when you dont know sh** dont start fight.

# Jun 21, 2009 @ 3:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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52. I_know_more_than_you writes:

i created an account and you can see for urself the thrash bands i like. i already listed municipal waste. again i dont consider those bands metalcore because if you actaually listen to the music and compare it to thrash the riffs are fast and the solos are really good. they might have some breakdowns but so do old thrash bands. i call these bands modern thrash cuz thats what they are to me.

# Jun 21, 2009 @ 3:48 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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53. Cynic writes:

"so cynic you are clearly the leader of the pack here, aren't you? whatever you say or whatever your opinion is everyone else will rally up to echoe you no matter what."

Haha, sure man - It's not because you could be wrong or ignorant oh no no no, it's because there's a big conspiracy against you here and I'm the shady leader (end sarcasm). Lol, sh** Terminator you hit the nail on the head, I really have nothing more to add. Any further questions you have IKMTY, you can just read Terminators post again.

Oh and holy sh**, I'm just about in tears laughing at your list of "true thrash" bands!! "Metallica - Death Magnetic only", bwahaha! f*** you're better Lord Cashington himself! Oh Christ haha...lol...

Now Playing: Demolition Hammer - ".44 Caliber Brain Surgery"

# Jun 21, 2009 @ 7:44 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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54. Cynic writes:

Lol....Ok wait, that last post was a bit rough. Listen I'm extending the olive branch to you here. Yes, Merciless Death and Bonded By Blood are cool thrash bands so great picks there (though as me and Diamond Oz were saying I prefer Violator and Rumpelstiltskin Grinder). But is it really that much of a blow to you to admit that you don't know actually know that much about thrash metal? We can all get a long here if we show some humility!

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55. Cynic writes:

Also nice post Jenny, you're always very respectful.

# Jun 21, 2009 @ 8:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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56. Fuck_A_Name writes:

Ok, fair enough, sabbath bores you. It's just rare that I find a metalhead that doesnt like them, so I throw the name out there, excuse me.

I'll accept that you have different tastes. I'll accept that you are 100 percent hostile towards perfectly decent genres of metal. Btu if you're going to go around calling sh**ty metalcore bands "thrash", just because they play fast and have good solos, then I'm gonna have to call bullsh** on whatever you say to me till you learn to actually listen to people who are trying to explain why you're wrong.

Yngwie Malmsteen plays fast and has fantastic solos. If someone called him thrash I would spit in their lunch. Dethklok and Deicide play fast and have fantastic solos. Go listen to those bands songs and tell me they can be called thrash. Solos can be good in any genre of metal, and there are so many genres of metal that you call fast it isnt even funny. Grindcore, Deathcore, Death metal, some Prog, Metalcore...the list goe on endlessly. The two things you say that make a band thrash can be in virtually ANY genre of metal. not to mention Jimi Hendrix has great solos, and techno can be played even faster than some metal, so it doesnt even have to be metal to discredit your point.

If you wanna go on walking around claiming you like thrash, you damn better justify a heeluva lot better why the bands you listen to can be called that. Cause right now, you're looking really stupid right now. Do me a favor and look up the definition of thrash metal and then look up the definition of metalcore. Trust me, there's a HUGE difference.

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# Jun 21, 2009 @ 8:55 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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57. I_know_more_than_you writes:

cynic/f*** a name the best i can do for you is agree to disagree. i really do believe i know alot about metal compared to most ppl i know and i think im right about my descriptions of my fave bands. you guys can share a diff opinon, thats okay. i trust my gut and my ear and label music based on how it makes ME feel. and if you all wanna bully me for my views thats ur problem. i think everyone here could learn a lot from me if you all give me a chance.

# Jun 21, 2009 @ 9:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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58. Cynic writes:

That'll have to be it then, but my words of wisdom would be if your going to go around calling Trivium, Arch Enemy and God Forbid "pure thrash metal", then prepared to get the same response here anywhere else you go. Terminator, FAN, deathfreak, MDM101, Diamond - these people know their stuff.

# Jun 21, 2009 @ 9:52 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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59. Chopper Read writes:

"if you all wanna bully me for my views thats ur problem."

Stop crying and harden the f*** up!

# Jun 22, 2009 @ 9:01 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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60. That_One_Guy writes:

Whoa, I missed this whole argument. Looks like IKMTY got served.

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# Jun 24, 2009 @ 1:29 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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61. namelessspeaker writes:

Honestly, both sides of this argument have their strong points. My point is this, do not be afraid to like whatever you want. Good music is good music. Just last week I saw summer slaughter, and I loved every band. All the kids (who cared too much for their little images), whether they be pro metalcore or pro death metal, would leave the venue for half the bands. There were maybe 20% of people who stayed for the whole show. I can't be the only one who thinks this is stupid, its the same with most arguments, if you like any quality of the music, does that not make the music good? And vast generalizations are never a good thing btw, check out lyrical differences between cannibal corpse, atheist, vital remains, death, and edge of sanity. You maybe surprised of what lyrics death metal is capable of.

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62. That_One_Guy writes:

^ No one said that all death metal was like Cannibal Corpse lyrically. I think we're all fully aware of exactly the kind of genius lyrics that some of the more gifted writers can produce.

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