Otep To Perform At Democratic Convention
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Otep has been confirmed as one of three performers, alongside Fall Out Boy and N*E*R*D for the Rock the Vote Ballot Bash in support of the Democratic party.
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28. writes:
GODD@Mn!T, I thought it said OPETH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Otep completely blows. Hasnt the nu metal teen angst, sexual frustration crap died out yet? I bought one of their albums about 5 years ago and actually threw it out the window on a bridge as I was driving it was so horrible!
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Otep is amazing. At least she speaks her mind and encourages others to do the same and VOTE. She isnt telling you who to vote for. All you people can sure make a lot of judgments on someone out there trying to make a difference. GO do something yourself. Put yourself out there and see who all likes everything about you. Otep's songs have helped me so much. I am just amazed at the cruelty some of you show.
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Otep is very annoying. The music sucks, maybe a couple songs are tolerable, but regardless of who they vote for, they still suck at Metal.
To answer XWigglesX's question: If you want to be real specific about my political ideologies, based solely on my personality and what I support, I'm a Nihilistic Liberal Democratic Socialist. I support Abortions, the Death Penalty, Burning churches-so long as no one is harmed. I also think people should have the right to commit suicide so long as they aren't being emo about it, and if they do it publicly, they must be creatively original/extremely brutal abut it (something that will traumatize a child when they see it) so long as it won't somehow harm others, when they do it. And of course, I also support Gay Marriage.
But I usually just vote Democratically, so my vote is going to Obama (no disrespect for McCain, I respect what he has done for this country, but I can't stand behind his ideas for solutions to economy problems).
MetalMatt: Seriously, don't speak of what you don't know. You're not a woman, don't tell a woman how to live. Just like you wouldn't like me telling you how to live. You don't know sh*t about what its like to be a woman, just like they don't know what its like to be a man. Unless you grow a vagina and get yourself pregnant, shut the f*** up about abortion. And by the way, every person I see rallying around abortion clinics are usually people that don't get laid anyway.
And speaking of pro-life: At one point, me and my friends are gonna collect a f***load of wire coathangers, straighten them out, and then drive by on the pro-lifers and throw the coathangers at them. We'll yell something like "Aw sh**! They missed again" or something and ride off.
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To specify on last post: We're chucking the coathangers at the pro-lifers that rally around the abortion clinics to be specific.
I don't care if the individual doesn't want an abortion herself, but don't try to make everyone else NOT have abortions just because you personally don't want one yourself. You don't see pro-choice supporters rallying around Maternity wards yelling about how these pregnant women should've aborted (That would be funny as hell to see though).
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So long as there are stupid f***s who mess it up for everyone else, we'll never NOT have government. Plus, technically, even if our government disappears, we'd still govern ourselves, which is technically still being under some form of government power.
I personally think many human beings should kill themselves once they realized they're a defecit to the world, leeching off of others or oppressing others without just cause. That would solve A LOT of problems with the world. But since most of the people who deserve to die usually don't want to die, I'd prefer a government to step in for mandatory executions of lowlives who, for the most part, don't deserve to breathe. But the only time the government should intervene with anything would be when the people need it, and/or vote/petition towards it. Otherwise the government should let our business be our business. Now, as far as a world free of government, religion, land ownership, drugs and currency: Since the virus that is the human race started, we've always had someone who led everyone else, people who believe in something, people who own something somehow, people who like killing themselves stupid doing something, and people willing to pay for any and all of that. It ain't going anywhere anytime soon.
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The only thing I would say I sort of relate to politically is Anarchism lol. I detest the thought of someon dictating what I can or cannot do based on what the ruling minority thinks is moral.
However, I still regretfully understand the need for a government, in that some matters are virtually impossible for individuals, even acting collectively, to accomplish. Building roads, public education, transit sytems, disaster aid, etc. And there is also the matter that without rules in place to dictate certain standards, I know there are quite a few people out there, without the detterrent of laws and punishment, that would quickly begin doing whatever they want i.e. rape, steal, murder. One only has to look at the moderate degeneration of New Orleans after the hurricane to get a small taste of what I mean. So, Government, I believe, unless human nature takes a drastic upheaval and redirecting, is something I view as a neccesary evil.
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As for Obama, the man is actually what a president really should be in my eyes. He may not have experience, but I think that makes him less corrupted actually. THis is his first real bid at power, and it is because he is an idealist, as opposed to actually desiring power in the first place. For him, it seems to be a means to an end. He does not pander to any specific wing of the political spectrum, as Mccain and countless others before have done, although he does try and make sure not to piss of anyone outright, and if that is his only fault, then I am fine with the man.
His whole pro-choice thing revolves around his idea that, in fact, Government should NOT be able to outright tell people what they can or cannot do. The laws need to be established to uphold the general Morality of ALL the people it represents, not just the most outspoken and powerful. There is also the irony that he is actually more conservative, at least to the true meaning of the word, than Mccain is, in that he wants to cut back and put limitations on the faith based programs set up by Bush, because the Constitution clearly points out the need for seperation of Church and state, and these programs are circumventing this necessary principle. His agenda is basically to make the goverment work for the people again, to make it friendly to ALL religions and hehe, non-religions as well. So in that, I will vote for him.
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Yeah, and if we have Mccaine as our president the wealth gap will get bigger and bigger. now THAT fukin sucks. We will also probably go to war with Iran and doing so, we will probably start a draft. And we do NOT want that to happen...our government really sucks right now doesn't it...
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even though the band sucks, they are just trying to get more of the younger generation of voters to come out and vote...I think less people would come if they had a band like Cannibal Corpse or Dying Fetus play(not saying those bands are bad, just saying that metal isn't the most popular music in the world. It is still awsome though, I am NOT trying to dis metal)
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Christf***er, you awesome haha.
The reason that I have respect for government is that every single god damn day you see all kinds of sh** going on in the world; genocide, war, poverty in Africa, people getting away with things, ect. Governments are meant to stop and prevent this. But they don't.
Our world is rotting because of government's greed and desire to be the wealthiest or most powerful, this is not right. Remember my bulletin FAN?
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Refused once said: "is it our duty to die for governments and gods?"
These words should be a motto for people. You do not have to follow what others tell you to do.
Also in Refused, probably the only still relivant political band left, even if they have broken up.
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I was attempting to avoid this one.But here goes.Knowone has the right to tell a woman what to do with her body.If she decides to abort it's her decision knowone else's.If the Right To Lifers really wanted to do something useful.They should work on createing a program where these unwanted children could be adopted into loveing family environment's(yes there are already adoption programs but the most frequently sought after children are white males.What's needed is something that guarantee's the entire spectrum).As upposed to what they usually wind up in.50 to 70 persent of prison inmates male & female come from single parent or some other type of broken home.Now that would be progress in there favor.For the record I'm a republican that votes democratic.
In the mean time as far as Shamaya & her band are concerned(is that how you say her name?)I'm not a fan although I'm not violently against them there ok depending on my mood.She's a little nut's.Unfortunatley that's a bit of a turn on for me.So I probably could not comment on her negatively if I wanted too.
As for Obama & Mckaine.Yes Obama is a bit inexperienced.However I'll take inexperience.(They saide the same thing about JFK)Over old any day.I'm sorry the one thing this country does not need is another Old man with alot of out dated view's in the White House following the fake a$$ principles of the REPUBLICAN PARTY !!!!!!
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"We're Pro-Life" - What does that make me? If you're so Pro-Life, do me a favour, don't block med clinics, ok. Lock arms and block cemeteries! Let's see how committed you are to this premise.
If you're so Pro-Life and you're so pro-child, then adopt one that's already here, that's very unwanted and very alone and needs someone to take care of it, to get it out of a horrible situation.
I've always found religion facinating, ideas such as how people act on their beliefs - Pro-Lifers murdering doctors. Pro-Lifers murdering people! It's irony on a base level, but I like it!
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Hey if George W. Bush was qualified to be president in the mind of so many of my fellow Americans, so damm well is Obama. I cant believe people are even thinking of voting for any Republican candidate, after 8 years of bullsh** lies, 4,000+ dead soldiers , and who knows how many Iraqi and Afghani civilian deaths. f*** that sh**!
On the Rape topic, its a big issue and shouldnt be silenced because its a f***ing epidemic in not only developed countries but especially 3rd world countries with human trafficking, wars etc.
And abortion is such a iffy subject, i mean the procedures are just vile. The sooner the better if aborted. Who is to say that fetuses cant feel pain, ask yourself would you want a probe stuck into your head and have your brains and the life sucked out of you? Their is no f***ing way that is a humaine way to die.
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actually I disagree on the abortion. I agree if you do you should get it right away. But I am DEFFINATELY pro-choice. Obama is deffinately the way to go over mccainne. We are also paying over $5 billion on this bullsh** of a war! it is fukin stupid that we are still in it!
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What, another rich white christian? He's the same thing as Bush and dozens of presidents before him and look where THEY got us. :p
JFK was young, he was inexperienced, and he was an idealist. The country had never had a Catholic president before, but he broke through that. Now look what happened because of that. We landed on the moon, he helped with the civil rights movement despite Congress's dissapproval, Avoided war with the Soviets, began the peace corps, and had sex with Marilyn Monroe (perhaps his greatest acomplishment? lol) Keep in mind that he only served for half a term before he was assasinated.
Obama is young, inexperienced, and an idealist. The country has never had a black president before, but no one I know seems to care about his race, his speeches break through that. And just like Kennedy, he has young people intersted in politics again. I say f*** Mccain, he's just a carbon copy of every sh**ty rich white christian president we've ever had.
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What is your e-mail addy FAN? I have something I want to forward to you. I also dont think he is another Bush and far more experianced than Obama. McCain did not high tail and run from defending America, he has more knowladge of the millitary than Bush and has been IN battle. Obama is too easy to influance and that is dangerouse!
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If you want, e-mail me at Damnthefrench@hotmail.com, though I might not reply to it for a few days, I check it infrequently.
I don't think Obama is easily influnced at all! Have you heard him speak? That man is adamant about his priciples, and if it's age youre worried about, the man is 47, so he is by no means a kid easily swayed with promises and lies. And I didn't say Obama was more experinced, just more capable. Wisdom is good and all, but what good does it do you to help solve a brand new problem entirely different from the last, which is one of the main things a president has to put up with, dealing on an international scale while running an internal society? Intelligence is the real neccesity to be president in my opinion, not experience.
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I do seem to get alot of post numbers with 6's in them. The e-mail I sent you is a forward I got abou McCain. For the record, I dont think Obama is a bad person. He just isnt suited for presidancy yet. If in 8 years he ran again, he would most likely have my vote. I also dont like when a president has no time spent in the millitary or any time spent in action. If one can send men and women into battle then one should truly know what that means!
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"I don't think Obama is easily influnced at all! Have you heard him speak? That man is adamant about his priciples"
Tell me you're kidding. The man has flip flopped on so many issues since he declared he was running for president it isn't even funny. He will say anything to get elected. They all will. He had more "present" votes in his state legislature than any other congressman (aka he was trying to cover his true feelings and beliefs so as to not have to answer for them). He is no saint and is as ruthless in his climb to the top of the liar ladder as any of his comrades. They all lust for power.
This country is full of idiots. Unfortunately they are convincing more and more of them to vote. We get to choose between two sh|tty candidates because we don't have the balls or heart to demand more from them.
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I hear that Obama flip-flops on issues alot from alot of people. Problem is, alot of people are too stupid to understand what he's really saying.
Name a principle or issue he's flip-flopped on, give me the specific speech/statement, and I will show you exactly how wrong you are. The man is of an eloquence not seen since licoln, and it's easy to see how many people can misinterpret something he says. I got it all the time from my high school english teacher. She would tell me I never make clear my thesis in an essay, but I've taken some of the very same essays up to one of friends english professors, and he told me he would have accepted some of them without a second draft. So you see, my English teacher was stupid (as was half the class that couldn't grasp what I was saying) but an intelligent person who went to college for literary development loved what I had to say. See a comparison?
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How did he change his stance on the war in Iraq? When was this? and besides, with changing situations, it may be neccesary to change on'e mind. Which is why I hate the use of the term "Flip-flop". I change my mind on issues a lot. It's not a bad thing.
The pastor: I believe Pat Robertson is just as racist and offensive as this pastor. That doesn't stop people in the republican party from associating with him now does it? It's all just a matter of the public's opinion and how things are presented them.
Secondly, Have you been to a black church? On a regular basis? I have. ALL black pastors are like that. They hate white people, and they like to say politically charged things to get the crowd all riled up, and nobody even thinks to be offended, they're too busy bein filled up with passionate thoughts from jesus through the pastor. People are sheep, we all know this. Obama has probably BEEN going to this church since he was a kid, and his family was most likely heavily involve in the church, thusly paving the unfortunate path of Obama being raised up under the assumption that this guy is like his best friend or something. Besides the point, Don't we ALL have friends that we both disagree with and are embarrassed by?
I would also like to point out that Obama has yet to do any finger-pointing at John Mccain, typical of political campaigns, While receiving all this "scandal thrown around himself by mccain, only saying that such mud-slinging was childish.
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This is the problem with Iraq. How does a force of under 200,000 Western troops control a population of over 29,267,000 people of dozens of different Islamic sects, ethnic groups and beliefs?
Now we should not have ever entered this war, but now that America and the allies have gotten bogged down trying to deal with the civil war putting tails between the legs and running away can not be an option. Although it is often portrayed as a coherant society before the war it needs to be understood that civil war would have happened either way. But, this does not mean that it is not our fault that the civil war broke out. With a highly advanced military dead centre in the middle of this tension things would always have gotten worse before they got better.
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To Kalis: I wouldn't say that the pastor was very racist, he was just incredibly mistrusting of white people and, in my opinion, who can blame him. Also, things he said were taken out of context by the news. When he said the infamous 'god dam america' quote, he was talking about our foreign policy, which I have to say is PRETTY fuked up right now. I heard that Mccaine USED to be not like the bushes, but I hear that he vowed to carry on what Bush Jr. has done. I dont want that to happen. And if we get Mccaine, we might invade Iran, and I am old(or ALMOST old enough, cant remember the age) enough to get drafted. I am a fuking pasifist and don't want to go to war! One of the main reasons we went to Iraq anyway was oil(they didn't say it but we every war we have had was because of economy. Take it this way: Most of the wars we have had were with governments we didn't agree with because they were communist, or nationalizing something). You might say I'm inexpierienced because I'm only 16, but I actually pay attention to the news and have politically active parents, so I know a lot about whats going on.
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post 81: It would have taken longer for it to start though. The American troops are hurting the chance at getting back to normal than helping it! Just a few months ago, some troops used the Koran for target practice! I don't think that that would help get things better, do you?
N.P: Message From Baghdad by Acrassicauda (Iraq's only heavy metal band)
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O.k now I am getting irritated! Us metallers sit around and get angry when some dipsh** goes and kills someone and claims "metal made me do it" right? McCain is completly being type-casted so to speak just because he is a Republican. I got news for you youngsters, McCain is not just your avrage Republican and the only choice for educated people of America to vote for. Honestly if Obama does get into office and fvcks everything up due to his lack of presidential abilities then you people who voted him will eat your own words here.
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Obama's ex-pastor is white by the way. I have seen pics of him. I question wether he went to that church. If he had than he must have been sleeping during the sermans. Obama also said at the begining of his campaign that he would just pull the troops out of Iraq, but when McCain talked about how stupid that would be said that he would "eventually" get the troops out.
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Regardless of who gets elected, Every president has to adapt to the "Pre-set Role" when he/she is in office. If a president does not fill in that role and decides to make things his her/her way, he/she will either be framed (Bill Clinton) or be assassinated (John Kennedy)
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Well from a third party perspective whose mind isn't clouded by all the propaganda that American public TV stations spew out. To me, they both seem rather phony and because of how tight the presidential race has been they are practically saying anything to get them that extra vote above the other man. If Obama is elected, my guess is he will only be assassinated sometime after wards just because of his strong relation to MLK AND because he is black. It's no surprise that about 50% of the United States are among the most racist people ever. Just think how they will feel when a BLACK MAN runs there country. They won't let it happen, and if it does, they will see an end to it.
Kalis, why do you think it is a bad thing when someone doesn't spend any time ?
and F.A.N why do you think Obama is so truthful? Your asking us all to point out his fallacies, but what makes you believe in him so strongly?
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I honestly think the only reason Obama might be assassinated is because people will be expecting it. But that could also be a reason why it won't happen.
Personally, I don't want McCain because I think he kind of misses those ol' days of napalm and chinese water torture. Not those specifically but the brotherhood, the adrenaline rush. It happens to veterans. The worst moments of their lives become nostalgic. They love visiting and reminiscing about where they fought.
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B.b, I think that if you are going to have the power to send men and women into war you best know what that means! I think that the decission to go to war would be more thought out. Bush was a draft dogeer and never served a day in the millitary and was sure gug-ho to go to war with Iraq. I think that had he known battle would have tried a different route first. McCain, if elected by the way would be the first president in 50 years to have a son at war.
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"Everytime I try ro get out.They pull me back in."
I'm not so sure where your comeing from with the fli flop stuff.I personally have not seen anything that was a blatant change from any previous policy of Obama's atleast not yet anyway.As far as his pastor is concerned.You can't really hold that guy against Obama either.Yes he may very well be a racist(mind you some believe that it's impossible for black's to be racist because it's a learned reaction as a result of 200 yrs of slavery and mistreatment from the white establishment.)Yes the pastors at black churches can be quite infamatory but so can the white pastors in souther baptist churches so that really is not an issue technically.Every body's got atleast one person in there life that is ignorant as all hell.But because of who they are we can't just deny them unfortunatley.I've dated alot of non black women in my time & i've got a couple friend's who thought I'd some how turned on my people.I got into alot of fight's over irrelevance.That's all I gotta say about that.
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I actually agree Kalis, that's why our presidents have advisors. I would totally support McCain for Secretary of Defense. It's impossible for a candidate to be completely qualified for the job. I just personally think we've done all we can in Iraq. If terrorists seek refuge there it's not our fault. By the logic of most Republicans it'll just become what it was, without Hussein. Clearly the Iraqi people didn't want true democratization or they would be a democracy by now. Obama is being more of a hard a$$ by giving them an ultimatum of withdrawal instead of offering to hold their hands indefinitely.
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Bush's reasons for going to war with Iraq were not the right ones. I think that if he had addressed the fact that women were being treated horribly, talked about what the Hussien family was doing to their people, and that they were allowing Al Queda to carry out terrorist attacks, then wepons of mass destruction reason would not nessicarly been a pressure to find. Fact is that they never were found only makes it hard to support the Iraqi war.
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I've said that to people numerous times: If Bush had just simply said the Hussein family needs taken out, I would've been on board. But he didn't, he chose to lie. Plus he had/has no exit strategy and neither does McCain. "As long as it takes" is not how you win a war.
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Well Death, one must also look at how many countries we have go to war with and one sees that we are still occupying them. We are not fighting them, but we cant just dessimate a country and pull out without re-building it. That is against our policies. If we dont take our time to get Iraq on its feet then we are going to be fvcked.
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Irak will never get on their feet because look at their history, they have always been violent, they have always been retards like that, nobody will change it because they are like that and they like that. Look at the gods they use to worship 100 pf years ago, they where devils, violent gods and a blood lust. They will never be like we want them to be so we better off f***ing them up for good and get rid of them.
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We all have barbaric roots Red. I know that no one can change a Muslim country, but to go to war and not make sure the country is as stable as possible is dangerous.
Wiggles, Sadam was not the only issue with Iraq. The C.I.A can not do what the U.S Millitary can do.
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You see they should make certain that they go to a civil war after you guys leave so they will be so busy fighting themselves that they will forget about all the rest. Then when one side wins, you make sure that what remains of the rest still as the power to f*** up the country and here we go again. don't try to change them, just keep those idiots busy...
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That would not work.I don't know that I agree with that red.Historically speaking just about any culture you look at has some sort of violent deity.From the greek Ares to the Hindu Kali.(actually the Hindu's have several violent Deities).But all these Deities completely regardles have a certain purpose other than the purely sinister.The problem with what's going on in the mid east is the fact you have a fued(islam,christianity & judeism)That's been going on for longer than either of our countries have existed.It's never been resolved truly even after the Crusades.
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"B.b, I think that if you are going to have the power to send men and women into war you best know what that means! I think that the decission to go to war would be more thought out. Bush was a draft dogeer and never served a day in the millitary and was sure gug-ho to go to war with Iraq. I think that had he known battle would have tried a different route first. McCain, if elected by the way would be the first president in 50 years to have a son at war."
Good answer, but I re-read my post and I didn't phrase my question very well at all. What I was trying to get was you to prove why McCain's stance on the War is more beneficial to the American people than Obama's.
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Being in the Middle East and hoping to stabilize and / or control it is nothing but a huge mistake. Like Red said, it's been this way for thousands of years. People try to take control of it (like the Crusades) and all it does is incite war. But on the other hand, we can't just leave them be or they'll just start fights with us and everybody else. That whole region is f*cked if you ask me, lol.
And yes, it was stupid of Obama to pick Biden. It just makes it seem now like Biden is Obama's sort of "father figure" because he's older and has experience. While it's a good choice experience-wise, it just further points out how inexperienced Obama really is. Not that that's necessarily a bad thing.. it could just mean that he's not yet corrupted by politics.
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They will not pick fights with us if we make sure that they fight amongst themselves I say, fake an attack, example, Irak attacks Iran and they will start a war again and will be busy for a long time. How can they think of fighting us when they are busy screwing themselves up. they are people that do not think logically, they are thinking with their testosterone, they are dumb as f*** so let's capitalize on this...
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Well my friend they will do it, not us. I mean I am Christian but I believe they are animals and they represent a lot of things God doesn't like about us. I do not wish for people to die but man, those extremists should all be wiped out. Problem is most of them are not that way but how can you tell ? plus they are protecting them and letting them get their way because they are scared. So if you do nothing, then you agree with it, so let the animals eat each other out and let's sit and watch...
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For thousands of years they have fought amungst themselfs. In truth I think a giant shipment of weed and candybars might do the trick. If they refuse to smoke it then just drop a big box of weed right in the middle of the fight and light it on fire. That will mellow them out and make em so lazy they wont want to move, then the NATO Millitary can move in with gas masks and irraticate them!
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You know I have no respect for Islam because this religion spread itself with violence, it was imposed, forced fed, slashed, cut, gutted and the likes. For example Christianity spread itself with mouth to ear and under great suppression. It became violent after it was established (which is stupid anyways) but Islam as always been about a$$ kicking and destruction. Not really what God likes...
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Nah, hilary Clinton would have been a bad choice as VP, if only for the fact that she would be bitter as sh** about not getting the shot to be president. If anything, if she ended up as Obama's vp, and they won, then she would poison him herself just so she could move up to president lol
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Did anybody see the democratic convention? I thought most of the speeches (including obamas, obviously) were really good. My only problem was there was nothing about our government supporting torture and waterboarding(which for some reason isn't considered torture)...I would have thought that some of them would touch on that issue for at least a little...
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