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Soulfly Guitarist: Ill Nino 'Fake' Live Performances By Playing To A Tape

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Metalrage.com recently conducted an interview with SOULFLY/ex-ILL NINO guitarist Marc Rizzo. A couple of excerpts from the chat follow:

Metalrage.com: There's been this quote going around that Max Cavalera has labeled the new album "a calm and peacefull album." Explain to me what a calm SOULFLY album sounds like.

Marc Rizzo: "You know what?! There's no way that could be true. Because this record, is the heaviest SOULFLY record so far. It's a mix of SOULFLY, and old-style SEPULTURA that Max was doing back on 'Arise' and 'Beneath the Remains'. It's almost like a thrash record, you know. The real SOULFLY elements are still there, but there's a lot of new songs that are fast-paced, a lot of guitar solos, it's got fast thrash-type rhythms. So I'm pretty sure he didn't say that. Maybe lyrically, but musically it's fucking heavy. It's the best SOULFLY record yet. It's got everything I like in heavy music. A lot of awesome drumming, a lot of double-bass. Lots of fast tempos, Max's vocals are really heavy.. I think it's awesome, it's right where 'Prophecy' left off, with a step further to the heavier side. Totally. It's a brutal record, people are going to be shocked when they hear it."

Metalrage.com: SOULFLY is not unfamiliar to the word "expirimenting," even soul and traditional Brazilian influences have been put into the records. With all the heavy stuff going on on this new record, is there still room for that sort of stuff?

Marc Rizzo: "Yeah, there's a lot of cool jams on it too, but overall it is the most relentless SOULFLY record. It's all 'Boom,' in your face! One after another of just slamming heavy fucking songs that kick your ass, man. There is a couple of jams on it, but it is not as 'jammy' as the earlier records. This record is more song-orientated."

Metalrage.com: I want to ask you a question that you can honestly say if you do not want to talk about it. A while ago there've been lots of stories about the conflict between you and your former band ILL NINO. What can you tell us about that?

Marc Rizzo: "Basically, what happened, I left the band.. Well, you know.. I'm into playing music, I'm not into faking music. When ILL NINO goes on stage every night, they play to a tape. So when you go to their show they play to a tape. What you hear is actually me playing, the tracks I've recorded for the albums. So that been said, we (SOULFLY) brought them out on tour with us in America, and the singer went on stage talking shit about us (suggesting that SOULFLY was 'not real' — Ed.). So after the show I jacked him. I just gave him fucking beatdown, you know.

"It's all about respect. Especially if you're a band that gets up on stage, and you fake what you do, and you don't even play it for real. That means putting your instrument through an ampliflier and have music coming out. If you don't do that, you should say nothing about someone else. Then you should be happy you've got a record deal and be quiet. Don't go talk shit about other bands that don't fake. When SOULFLY gets up on stage it's real. When you see me and Max playing, that's what you hear.

"This is metal, you know, rock. You're not supposed to fake it. If you want to fake music, you should go join a boy-pop group, and lip-synch on stage and shit. Not in rock and metal, that's not real."

Source: Blabbermouth

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1. inhatredofme writes:

if ill nino gets' caught, do you think they'll dance a jig and run off stage too?

# Jun 29, 2005 @ 4:45 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. death to trends writes:

Wow, does this mean that Ill Nino isn't talented?...pfff f***ing posers, f*** them all! This kind of sh** happens more than anyone can imagine. It's not like this is anything new, that these weak a$$ bands are NOT talented.

# Jun 29, 2005 @ 6:19 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. RememberMetal? writes:

meh.....whether its true or not Ill NIno never impressed me that much anyway.

# Jun 29, 2005 @ 7:04 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. Cfhdon83 writes:

ya the dreads looked really stupid, i really hate the way he sings, i hope their fans go to heaven!!

# Jun 29, 2005 @ 8:37 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. faHt writes:

boooooooooo

# Jun 30, 2005 @ 3:20 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. King_Something writes:

That's fukin gay, you mother fukers that dont know and are just saying sh-t just to say shi-t should just eat a fukin c*** and shut the fuk up. God Damn Rizzo is so Jealous of Ill Nino for being kicked out of the band after the first album. Ill Nino Rocks so damn Hard live, they DO NOT sample whole f'n songs when they play live, they do it for the precussions and shi-t cause precussionists need to f'n sample music god dam it. I seen them live and they blew me away, I dont believe it was just a tape of them I heard, there's way too much energy and passion in their live sh-t to try and convince you otherwise. And its not perfect, like a tape WOULD be but its still f'n great. Rizzo needs to stfu and chill... Anywayz Christian beat his a$$ after the show. so that fuker is just mad about that too... Ill Nino rocks hard, With or WITHOUT Rizzo in the band.

# Jun 30, 2005 @ 6:50 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. death to trends writes:

f*** off you poser. My band kicks the sh** out of Ill Nino and we don't sample sh**.

# Jun 30, 2005 @ 11:23 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. LatinoRevolution writes:

by death to trends can suck big balls. your just jealous and youve never heard ill nino so f*** off you hooker go work your shift on the corner ho!

# Jun 30, 2005 @ 7:04 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. Cfhdon83 writes:

Ill Nino sucks balls. period, f***ing lame a$$ numetal crap. The worst band on the f***ing planet, i hope their tour bus explodes killing all those Sepultura wannabees asses.
666 R.I.P DIME

# Jul 1, 2005 @ 2:13 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. FUCKWHITEPEOPLE writes:

ILL NINO ARE THE BEST f***IN BAND IN THIS WORLD. PURE LATIN POWER. ALL THE WHITE PEOPLE ARE JEALOUS CUZ THER WHITE AND GAY AND f*** WHITE PEOPLE CUZ THER LAZY STUPID AND FAT. f*** DIMEBAG DARRELL IM GLAD HE DIED. f*** WHITE PEOPLE! YOU b****ES CAN SAY ALL THE sh** U WANT CUZ IM NOT SOME HO WHO STAYS HERE FOREVER. PEACE b****ES! f*** WHITES!!

# Jul 1, 2005 @ 4:30 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. Queen_Nothing writes:

... oookaay...
Anyway I agree about Ill Nino! They kick ass! Marc Rizzo can tell whatever lies he f**king wants but all it's doing is making stupid b****es say stupid sh*t about Ill Nino cause they believe that sh*t! I like Soulfly but f**k Rizzo if he's gonna say sh* like that and f**k the pu**y b****es who wanna believe it!

# Jul 2, 2005 @ 12:30 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. King_Something writes:

i'm going to choke your faget a$$ out with my co-k in your mouth death to trends, and chfdon83 can bone you in the a$$ till his fukin weener explodes, when your body goes limp... in case i haven't made myself clear fuk off and die... now i dont know about all this racist bullsh-t cause thats just hella ignorant no matter how you look at it. if you dont like numetal then dont post on a numetal artical u dumass. and sampling music goes with the territory of there being a god dam DJ in the fukin band you stupid fuks. ill nino sounds like NOTHING there has been before, please if you havent heard them, dont talk sh-t, this just angers me.. i hate people who just talk sh-t about NOTHING they know. They are not sepultera wannabes they have their own unique fukin flavor and its awesome. and if anyone thinks they cant play live... download the soulfly cover 'eye for an eye' or even 'what comes around' live and hear the real music that is unsampled, which are the guitars, drums, tribal drums, bass, acoustic guitar, and fukin vocals.. the dj of course is sampling his own sh-t. dont talk sh-t unless you hear them, bi-ches!

# Jul 2, 2005 @ 3:20 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. azuramouse writes:

That one guy posting probably wishes he was white....does he not realize the first heavy metal guys were white?

# Jul 2, 2005 @ 6:29 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. ILLLATINO90 writes:

whoa man that guy went way kinda far there. anyway, i used to love marc rizzo and his guitar sh** but now, he can suck sum balls, he made a mistake by leavin ill nino and hes just jealous cuz he cant go back. any way, i love ill nino

# Jul 3, 2005 @ 1:44 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. King_Something writes:

For sure.. Mark I still respect on some small a$$ level, he puts on one hell of a show, and I know that mother fuker wasn't playing to a tape, because he fuked up his guitars sometimes when he was too busy doing those wild a$$ kicks he is known for. I heard him slip... he's just jealous right now, but he'll get over it. Stop with the racist bullsh-t too... that sh-t aint cool, no matter how you look at it...

# Jul 3, 2005 @ 2:13 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. RememberMetal? writes:

wow read ill ninos response....never really been into these guys but what they fire back is pretty funny

# Jul 3, 2005 @ 6:00 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. IAMEMTAL writes:

ILL NINO are a pretty solid band, but as spic head or f***WHITEPEOPLE said, U R THE BIGGEST f***ING SPIC IN THE WORLD, YOU PROBLY ARE IN A TACO BELL BATHROOM EATING A TACO RIGHT NOW YOU f***, YOUR DUMB AND GAY, fa**ot.
Latin "power "my f***ing balls, you queef! How many other Latin Metal bands are their again???White vs. Latin, yea.
and as for King_Something, you f***ing rock, but im racist. So what.

# Jul 4, 2005 @ 3:31 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. MILAKIAN writes:

lol man i may not be white or latin but latin people are way better than white people. Latinos/Hispanics are not as lazy,fat,ugly,and stupid as white people are. id pick blacks over whites. Im not dissing anyone, but Latins are f***in better than whites. whites are embarrasing. Peace b****es im on a 3 month trip to the bathroom....................in ITALY

# Jul 4, 2005 @ 7:12 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. ILLLATINO90 writes:

dude kyle is that you..! sup man

# Jul 4, 2005 @ 7:25 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. RememberMetal? writes:

who gives 2 sh**s race?....why the f*** does it matter?....If anything race and culture diversity can help metal.

In the case of metal your heritage (and the music aligned with that culture) can find it's way into the music see SoulFly, RATM, Sevendust, Ill Nino, Puya (heh almost forgot about them) SOAD, Ramstein, etc.....

The places those guys hail from and the music associated with their roots can creep into the music, often times improving it....Making it more interesting, adding a touch of soul, or providing a glimpse into a viewpoint or way of life many people will never know. These equal more instruments, variations in playing and singing style the works...

I dont care for Ill Nino myself (first time I heard the name I laughed though) but I'm glad their out there, at least they diversify things.

# Jul 4, 2005 @ 7:37 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. Queen_Nothing writes:

As far as this race sh*t goes, I agree, RememberMetal.

As for Ill Nino... They they kick a$$ and that's all there is...

Later, boys!

# Jul 4, 2005 @ 8:05 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. IAMMETAL writes:

Im not really racist, but for someone to speak out of nowere and say whites are gay, this and that,
THATS f***ED UP. If nowone will stand up, who will?? See, if both sides of the field just dont talk sh**, and shut the f*** up, then nothing would go on like,
War and hate crimes and sh**.
Ill nino f***ing rule!
f***
f***

# Jul 5, 2005 @ 3:12 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. death to trends writes:

Well, I hate to be the bringer of bad news but, I think Mexicans or Latinos have a stereotype of being lazy. Maybe I'm the only one who has ever heard of this. I will once again state how sh**ty Ill Nino is and how f***ing gay it is that every messageboard turns into a racist campground.
King Something-go listen to Load and keeping thinking that Metallica should still be writing music, you ignorant b****.
Ok, I gotta go to work, something you f***ing greasy spics should think about doing...

# Jul 5, 2005 @ 12:05 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. Queen_Nothing writes:

F**k you, b****! Go suck off your dad and cry to him about getting your racist a$$ beat by some sexy latinos-- no doubt it's happened before... You said "Mexicans or Latinos have a stereotype of being lazy." yeah... you said-- a f**king stereotype. There are lots of them about lots of different groups of people. That doesn't mean you need to buy into them, dumb ass!

And by the way:
METALLICA F**KING KILLS! AND I'D UNDERSTAND IF YOU BROUGHT UP "ST. ANGER" BUT "LOAD" WAS AMAZING!

# Jul 5, 2005 @ 12:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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25. RememberMetal? writes:

Every race has sterotypes against it......By being white yourself you're probably less than aware of them. Whites are largely considered to be slow learners, arrogant, uptight, rude, inconsiderate, forceful, and OBESE SLOBS!!!!.....

We're (yes I am white) also believed to have poor reflexes, cook very bland food and have the the most undesirable facial features body types. Crystal Meth and other hardcore drugs are more popular with the pale set than others as well, so we have particularly damning addiction problems compared with other races. Our religious background is considered a laughable facade and our culture to be non-existant. Oh and this is important, supoosedly we suck in the bedroom too (both sexes, all ages).

You can toot your horn about how you think our race is somehow BETTER than other races but what it comes down to is that no sterotype is ever right even half the time.

I'm white, I'm a terrible cook, I can't dance for sh** and I dont belong to any organized religion, when I think American culture I think rock and hip-hop music, manifest destiny, and war....but mostly just pop-culture..... But I'm not addicted to anything, I jog and lift and never eat fast food so I have a low body mass index. I also graduated from UofL last year so perhaps I'm not a slow learner either.

I was made aware of these stereotypes by an African American friend who I grew up with and a Latino girlfriend from when I was 19 (together a year till she moved to Clearwater with her folks). Whats funny is that even though they never met eachother they had heard of the same stereotypes about caucasians.....and some of their sterotypes turned out to be wrong, and they told me......

So maybe Death to trends and Iammetal some of your views are dead wrong too.

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26. Queen_Nothing writes:

Maybe???

and by the way... nice post, RememberMetal!

# Jul 5, 2005 @ 1:49 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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27. KoRnFaN94 writes:

@death to trends...y the f*** r u b****ing over a band thats more than 100 times better than ur pathetic sorry excuse for a band...and theres no reason to be racist..mexacan better than ur band..skindred is jamacian..better than ur band...jonathan davis id scottish..and HE ONLY is better than ur pathetic band

# Jul 5, 2005 @ 2:04 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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28. PLAY ATENTION writes:

iLL Niño play to a tape with scratches and keyboards but never with guitar work ..
Marc wants ill niño success again
ILL NIÑO is so much better live than on CD
so marc is only a LIAR.....

# Jul 5, 2005 @ 2:11 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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29. Queen_Nothing writes:

I like the reference to a very good song there, Play Atention...

# Jul 5, 2005 @ 2:40 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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30. ILLLATINO90 writes:

Ill Nino is the best f***in band ever..hey anyone who likes ill nino..WHOS YOUR FAVE MEMBER? ALBUM? AND SONG?

# Jul 5, 2005 @ 7:11 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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31. RememberMetal? writes:

meh...singers alright, they have a pretty good sound, the music just doesnt do anything for me....I'm just glad their doing well in the face of people like Rizzo.

# Jul 5, 2005 @ 11:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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32. IAMEMTAL writes:

Personally, i like the album before confessions, but confessions was great too....
The "highlights" of ill nino are the straight-foreward hard songs, but the songs that start
innocent (most of them) then break into the hard sh** are bad a$$ too, i just can bear the
songs with no real guitar rhythme and just "ranchero" theme.

# Jul 5, 2005 @ 11:59 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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33. Queen_Nothing writes:

"Revolution/Revolucion" was the best... I loved it! and Cristian's voice is just amazing! I'd give him more praise but I really can't... I love him and the rest of the band! I can't think of a word for how amazing the band is or that album (or Cristian) but if you can think of one let me know! :)

# Jul 6, 2005 @ 11:41 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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34. critter writes:

well i just want to tell all of you in here that there is a band from canada called DESPISED ICON everyone must get this cd it is f***ing awsome realy it is

# Jul 7, 2005 @ 5:38 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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35. Soulfly_isda_shit writes:

I hate the way christian sings !

# Jul 8, 2005 @ 12:40 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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36. Queen_Nothing writes:

If you REALLY feel that way, would you mind terribly explaining why??? I mean if you don't like them or Cristian whatever, but I really don't see how you could honestly hate the way he sings... I'm a huge fan and I don't plan to start sh*t over a disagreement or anything... I just don't get it...

# Jul 8, 2005 @ 4:50 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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37. ILLLATINO90 writes:

Cristian is the best singer. Ill Nino and soulfly are the f***in best.

# Jul 8, 2005 @ 9:05 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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38. IAMEMTAL writes:

True ILLATINO90, BUT what about fear factory?? They f***ing rock balls tooooo..........

# Jul 9, 2005 @ 7:56 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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39. BLACKDOG writes:

Let it go rizz.

# Jul 9, 2005 @ 11:19 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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40. Queen_Nothing writes:

"Rock balls" lol

# Jul 10, 2005 @ 12:33 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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41. manuel writes:

f***in rizzo, u latin puto vato, what da f-ck u think u gonna do?, u think people gonna believe in ur sh**???, f*** u vato, u really suck off, puto

# Jul 12, 2005 @ 12:32 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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42. manuel writes:

i think that max calavera should kick the f***in a$$ of rizzo, and get him out of soulfy,
rizzo: f*** u bastard puto, maricon conchatumare

# Jul 12, 2005 @ 12:35 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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43. Queen_Nothing writes:

Rizzo's a b****! Cristian kicked his pu**y a$$ and he can't stop crying about it... f**king co*k...

# Jul 12, 2005 @ 7:08 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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44. BLACKDOG writes:

YEAH ! WHAT MANUEL SAIDE !!!

# Jul 12, 2005 @ 7:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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45. Mr. Metal 2005 writes:

First of all. I think Soulfly is a sh**load better than ill nino. mainly because of max. Is this tape sh** true? I don't f***ing know? But when it comes to this racist sh**. Come on people. Just think for a second. Everyone. And i fuc-ing mean everyone. Has had a shi-ty a$$ past. Come on. I think we are all fuc-ed up. DOn't you think?

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46. Mr_Metal_2005 writes:

Oh yeah. To f***whitepeople. I'm black/cuban. I just want to put that out there. But for you to say some stupid sh** like you did. Who the f*** are you. Are you the fuc-king color police or something. You're probably the laziest f*** in the world. I bet you drive your fuc-king car to your mailbox. Whe your remote is on the other side of the room you probably throw your chair at the tv just to try and change the channel. You fuc-king bum. And Ill nino being the best band in the world. What fuc-king world do you live in you silly cun-t. Don't get me wrong. But you've had sepultura, slayer, pantera, lamb of god, you might now like them but dimmu borgir, cof. But fuc-king Ill nino. A fuc-king weather pattern or some sh**. whatever the hell it is. You're sick. If Ill nino was so dman good why don't you hear that much about them? You hear more about damn soulfly you soggy nut. You should be shot if front of you family. And then someone should shi t on your bullet wounds. You're freaking stupid. I'm just wasting my damn energy typing to your punk a$$ you worthless bitc-h

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