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Mustaine: Ulrich Thinks He Created Heavy Metal

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Megadeth mainman Dave Mustaine has told The Edmonton Sun that his Christian faith kicked up a notch while recovering from a nerve injury in his fretting hand. He couldn't play at all for more than a year. Megadeth was shelved — for good, he thought — but the "fire" kept burning.

"I had a pretty profound spiritual experience during the process, too," he says. "I believed in God my whole life, but I was never really ready to serve Him until I said these six simple words: 'What have I got to lose?'

"People say, oh, Dave became a Christian. They think I'm a pussy. I'm not. I'm still the same guy. If you make me angry, you still make me angry. It's just the way I'm going to respond to it.

"One of the things I decided early on is that I'm not going to go around telling people they're doing something wrong. That would've been the same as when everybody was doing this sobriety police stuff in the music industry, which I thought was absolutely pathetic. I was on tour with Aerosmith and they had their sobriety police out and I said, 'How gay is that?' "

He goes on and on in much the same vein, spontaneously weighing in on a variety of musical and political issues and taking a nice shot at Metallica drummer Lars Ulrich - "The guy thinks he created heavy metal. Metal created you, buddy."

Source: Blabbermouth.net

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1. a7xSHADOWSa7x writes:

AWWWW DAVE!!! That makes me love him sooo much more now!

# Nov 23, 2004 @ 9:18 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. m@tr!x writes:

megadeth is f**king awesome, but mustaine did not create metal. The ozzman himself created metal.

# Nov 23, 2004 @ 1:27 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. ac666 writes:

The Ozzman created little. The credit for Heavy Metal goes to Msrs Iommi, Butler and Ward. Osbourne just wailed Butler's lyrics. Not that pivotal to the process, really.

# Nov 23, 2004 @ 4:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. m@tr!x writes:

i guess you're right

# Nov 23, 2004 @ 4:45 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. MadK writes:

Don't forget to take in account Blue Cheer and the mighty James Marshall Hendrix
for helping to create metal also.

# Nov 23, 2004 @ 5:11 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. graveland writes:

metal was an evolution, not a creation

# Nov 23, 2004 @ 6:23 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. b-shaw writes:

graveland is right on that one

# Nov 23, 2004 @ 7:31 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. ac666 writes:

True. My point was more that a the moment when 'metal' became an individual style apart from hard rock those were the men wielding the instruments of destruction. But yeah, ALL music should be about evolution. Unfortunately much of it seems to prize regression and /or repetition.

# Nov 23, 2004 @ 8:36 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. metalthekid writes:

I CREATED METAL!!!!!!!

# Nov 23, 2004 @ 11:08 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. Kirk writes:

Ozzy deserves credit. Without his frontman mystique, Black Sabbath would not be Black Sabbath. Absoluetly nobody sounds like Ozzy, nobody. You can identify his dark voice in the first note. His singing style will never be duplicated. Iommi and co. definately deserve their respect, but to say Ozzy had nothing to do with it I must disagree with. I cannot name one significant contributer to metal, or any other class of music for that matter that did not have a great frontman. Zepplin, GNR, Tallica, Pantera, Slayer, Motorhead..the list goes on. Sadly, frontmen seem to overshadow major talent in most bands...this I agree with. But, with all due respect m@trix, Ozzy IS heavy metal, str8 up.

# Nov 24, 2004 @ 12:25 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. leothereo writes:

most of the bands from the eighties had talent all round, but these days i think a great singer can make any band great. to me however, mustaine has never had the vocal talent of a hetfield or a jimmy page or any of the other great rock bands.
even though mustaine's a very talented guitarist, his weak and ordinary vocals may be one of the reasons they have such a long history of boring and unmemorable records and will never ever get the recognition comparable to metallica. all this bullsh** mustaine is spitting surely makes him come off as a prick though, that's no way to go out man.

# Nov 24, 2004 @ 5:28 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. cantspeak writes:

Oh my f***ing god!!! Mustaine just doesn't know when to quit!!! I mean seriously, despite all the BULLsh** that Dave has slung at Metallica, they've only been gentlemen about it and turned the other cheek, and f***ing Mustaine just keeps with the mudslinging!!! Megadeth is a great band, and I love them, but Dave Mustaine needs to bury the axe with Metallica. Whether it's because he's jealous of them, mad at them, whatever, Dave needs to just shake hands and apologize to James Hetfield and Lars Ulrich and just kill this thing already.

# Nov 24, 2004 @ 7:56 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. m@tr!x writes:

you're right cantspeak. Mustaine needs to lay this dispute to rest.
everybody else I do agree with you people that say that jimi hendrix and all of those other bands created metal. you also have to give credit to the beatles, bob marley, greatful dead, etc. and I went to another thread like 2 months ago and this guy named ~~~{$t0n3d}~~~ said that if there was no blues, there would be no metal. NO BLUES=NO INSPIRATION=NO METAL=SUCKY MUSIC.

# Nov 24, 2004 @ 12:17 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. m@tr!x writes:

oh and i agree with graveland the most. Metal was an evolution.

# Nov 24, 2004 @ 12:19 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. Guess who? writes:

Satan created both blues and metal.

# Nov 24, 2004 @ 12:21 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. ac666 writes:

And that's why blues and metal are cool and gospel music blows.

# Nov 24, 2004 @ 4:10 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. brad writes:

good times bad times you know ive had my share

# Nov 24, 2004 @ 4:53 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. MadK writes:

666 the number of the beast.
Hell and Fire
Were sworn to be the least!

# Nov 24, 2004 @ 8:00 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. sex writes:

i agree with MadK

# Nov 25, 2004 @ 2:50 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. Big_Dan writes:

It's "hell and fire was spawned to be released"......excuse me while I kiss this guy

# Nov 25, 2004 @ 4:37 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. Big_Dan writes:

that last part was a joke I know it's...f*** it if I have to explain it

# Nov 25, 2004 @ 4:39 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. justice361 writes:

I think tallica helped shape metal the way it is today, but seriously Mustaine is being gay like always. Dont get me wrong I like Megadeth. But he is just being a tired old b****. Metal just evolved from blues. With the dark lyrics and everything (funny thing that rock came from the same thing with its happy lyrics). Mustaine helped formed thrash with Metallica's first album Kill em All. I think it was a good thing that James and co. got ride of him because they wouldn't have lasted much long with him in the band. sh** Metallica and all that 80s metal helped formed the sh** that's on the radio today( sadly got i hate core music so much). Pantera kept it alive with other bands like White/Rob Zombie.
Mustain just should got suck a c*** and shut the hell up.

I came for a$$ kicking and chewing gum and i'm all out of gum

# Nov 27, 2004 @ 10:51 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. metdallisha07 writes:

Ozzy didn't create metal all of BLACK SABBATH did (the first metal band) ,so don't give all the credit to OZ.

# Nov 27, 2004 @ 11:28 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. metdallisha07 writes:

Hey justice you your a little off line

# Nov 27, 2004 @ 11:32 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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25. ryan writes:

dude....arguing over who created heavy metal is as stupid as dave mustaine ranting like the jealous little b**** that he is about lars ulrich and missing out on being part of metallica's glory. honestly this is ridiculous, i dont much like megadeth or metallica but dave needs to f***in let it go. it's been so long, and he's enjoyed remarkable success with his band. he's done better then a f***ing sh**load of musicians. at this rate i honestly don't think he'll be satisfied until lars ulrich gives him a blowjob and begs him to rejoin metallica and erases the name kirk hammet from all past metallica credits and replace it with "God aka Dave Mustaine, creator of Metallica and thus heavy metal itself."

# Nov 28, 2004 @ 2:38 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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26. ac666 writes:

We weren't arguing, we were discussing. I know that it's rare on this site, but there you have it.

I know what ya mean, Dan.

# Nov 28, 2004 @ 4:53 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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27. Big_Dan writes:

justice361 I hadn't heard that quote in a long time. that's the best one on here.


Hey ryan, Lars is the gay one, he's the one that split up with his wife and said that he was "sexually attracted to Dave Mustaine". that's no bullsh** either, so lars would have no problem giving Dave a blowjob, but I don't think Dave OR the rest of metallica wants Dave back in metallica.

# Nov 28, 2004 @ 11:09 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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28. Satan writes:

I CAN'T BELIEVE MUSTAINE VOTED FOR BUSH THAT F-CKING C0CKSUCKER!!!!!!!

# Nov 29, 2004 @ 10:28 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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29. tattoocreator writes:

So many bands took part in the creation of metal and I don't think anybody will ever be able to pick one and say that's the band that started it all. However Jimi Hendrix inadvertently gave us the phrase "heavy metal" when a reporter from the Rolling Stone magazine first described Hendrix's music as "Heavy metal falling from the sky".

# Nov 30, 2004 @ 1:22 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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30. ac666 writes:

Yeah, and people used to refer to Hendrix as 'black metal'. Pretty funny now, though.

I do think that the elements that make up the basic 'metal' sound fell together with Sabbath, and that's why it's generally agreed that metal started with them.

# Nov 30, 2004 @ 4:46 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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31. ME writes:

Mustane voted for Bush????? Wtf was the system has failed about then? What a jackass he is.

# Nov 30, 2004 @ 5:15 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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32. inTENSO writes:

what about ZEPELLIN..??? MR. FANTASY..? as well as SABBATH they also helped to create metal music, well not to create it, to take music further to its own limits

# Dec 1, 2004 @ 1:55 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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33. MadK writes:

I thought Living Colour was true Black Metal! Ahahaha!
But seriously I thought Mustaine was a democrat?
Didn't he covered the DNC one year for MTV?

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34. MarineChick007 writes:

yeah i think so.

# Dec 2, 2004 @ 11:24 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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35. Metal_Militia writes:

:X Led Zepplin, in my mind will always be.. Overated. I will not doubt they were part of the evolution of rock, metal etc. but they are overated. Dave Mustaine needs to stop his b****ing. He keeps on because he apparently wants people to know he was part of the band, so what? he has his own band. So stop b****ing about god knows 20 years ago and try and make megadeth even bigger you flaming fa**ot.

# Dec 4, 2004 @ 9:33 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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36. MarineChick007 writes:

shut up! led zepplin rocks!!

# Dec 4, 2004 @ 11:16 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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37. metdallisha07 writes:

Hey ryan first of all metal is my life so I can argue about anytime anywhere, second I'm not a dude.

# Dec 4, 2004 @ 5:54 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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38. metdallisha07 writes:

Led Zepplin kick ass

# Dec 4, 2004 @ 6:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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39. MarineChick007 writes:

you damn right they kick-ass!

# Dec 4, 2004 @ 10:50 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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40. druid writes:

yeah but they're gone and so is pink floyd damn it

# Dec 5, 2004 @ 1:38 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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41. brokenwings13 writes:

Ok, I know I'm going to bore you all here, but, the creation of "heavy metal" happened
with the Beatles. YES THAT BAND THAT CREATED METAL WAS THE BEATLES!!

This might be hard for some to take sitting down.

The influence the Beatles, and many, many blues artists, shows through Black
Sabbath, who is considered the "first heavy metal" band. But if you happen to think
of metal as something other than blood, guts, gore, and whores, stop for a minute.

This wasn't Lars, or Dave, or even James. This started in the 1960's and the trains'
kept a rollin' ever since.

Without these artists like The Beatles, and even Elvis, music wouldn't have
evolved to where it is now. You wouldn't have Pink Floyd, Led Zepplin, or Metallica.
So quit b****ing about who sucks from the 60's cause without them, you have
nothing to b**** about.

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42. tattoocreator writes:

What follows is my theory on the evolution of metal:

160 thousand years ago a neolithic caveman had just captured himself a good looking female by smashing her over the head with his wooden club after getting p***ed on beer. He thought it a good idea to drag his b**** to a nearby cave for the pleassures that were to follow since he would more than likely not be disturbed by either sabre tooth tigers or other horny cavemen out looking for a root. As he was dragging his newly caught shag down into the cave his wooden club kept hitting the stalacmites and other rocky formations as he was walking deeper into the cave. The sound his club made fascinated our not too smart friend. So he dropped his b**** and started smashing the sh** out of the cave dancing around and even banging his head a little bit. A while later our friend woke up with an allmighty headache but as sexually satisfied as james hettfield after lars had given him some head.

and then god said:"Behold, the creator of rock and roll, the first headbanger"

This little story should point out the stupidity of debating who created ot invented metal. I don't believe thers is one band or one style of music but many bands and many styles of musice involced in the creation of metal.

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43. MarineChick007 writes:

that's what really sucks! i want them to come back!

# Dec 7, 2004 @ 7:37 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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44. brad writes:

dude helter skelter was heavy sh**

# Dec 7, 2004 @ 11:00 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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45. Creeping-Death writes:

ayy ryan your a legend...what you said is exactly 100% ... knowone created metal..it was an evolution and certain people just moulded it and changed its course abit and made new styles of music which were evolved into more and more styles of music..mustaine is a whiny little b**** and should shut the f*** up...what a p***y..god..ha..no wonder he's a fa**ot he doesn't hail satan like all the rest of us-the true metal heads....and he f***ed up his arm by sleeping on it..what a p***y...a real true god loving p***y he needs to stop b****ing hail satan like us and then he'll be cool..and be cool with metallica being bigger then megadeth..is megadeth still alive..... and R.I.P Dimebag Darrel...forever our brother your a true metal legend and you will be remembered forever \m/ i bow down to you...see you in hell my friend

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46. Creeping-Death writes:

big dan whats this about lars and his wife.....??

# Dec 11, 2004 @ 10:54 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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47. fade-to-black writes:

Lars Ulrich - "The guy thinks he created heavy metal. Metal created you, buddy."
Led Zepplin and various other bands liek sabbath (in the 70's) helped make the mould of 80's Metal (the best metal era) and that in turn has changed what metal is like today you can't honeslty say that metallica didnt change anything almost every metal band that was formed after metallica has had some inspiriation from them

# Dec 12, 2004 @ 8:37 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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48. drew writes:

'no wonder he's a fa**ot he doesn't hail satan like all the rest of us' jesus christ that has to be the gayest statement ever, true metal heads worship satan hahaha creeping-death i wish you would creep the f*** off this website, do you no anything about metal!????

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49. metdallisha07 writes:

HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you so much about metal spit it out, lets hear your side about metal.

# Dec 12, 2004 @ 3:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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50. metdallisha07 writes:

Don't f***en talk about Lars like that, that is true disrespect to METALLICA and the fans that love him.

# Dec 12, 2004 @ 3:21 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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51. Drew writes:

If that was aimed at me, i no enough about metal that you dont have to 'hail satan' to be a metal head, is that a nu metal rule now that you have to hail satan to like metal, jesus you mall goths are so f***ing desperate to be takeing seriously!, but in reality you are all just f***ing p***ies

# Dec 12, 2004 @ 3:39 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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52. metdallisha07 writes:

I didn't say that and I'm not a f***en goth either most people think I am but I think so I just luv metal cuz that is what keep me going. DON'T PUT ME UP IN BELIEVING IN SATAN CUZ BELIEVING IN SOME THING IS BULLsh** OR IF YOUR NOT f*** THIS sh**. GOTHIC'S ARE p***ies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

# Dec 12, 2004 @ 5:08 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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53. metdallisha07 writes:

I take that back drew.
HELL YEAH YOU HAVE TO HAIL SATAN YOU f***ER AND I AM A f***EN GOTH
YOUR THE f***EN p***y b****.

# Dec 12, 2004 @ 10:55 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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54. Creeping-Death writes:

your a f***ing retard im not nu-metal..80's metal is my era..yeah nice and creative metal head name "Drew" yeah good work fa**ot..i can tell u i know a sh** load about metal and how to fukn play it then you do you piece of sh**..and im through arguing about tihs sh**...80's was so much better no fukn arguing about metal..your all f***s fuk you all..if you don't respect metallica you are not a f***ing metal head so f*** u you f***en d*** f***ing sit in your tower you piece of sh**

# Dec 16, 2004 @ 3:13 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address

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