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Cradle Of Filth Concert Stabbing Details

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The two people that were allegedly stabbed by a security guard at the Cradle of Filth concert in Cincinnati Monday night (Nov. 8) have been identified as Chris Alsip, the frontman of the Ohio-based brutal straight-edge hardcore band Suffocate Faster, and James Shestina, 18, of Athens, according to The Enquirer.

Police say Donald Germany (photo), 21, a University of Cincinnati defensive end and special teams player on a scholarship, pulled out a knife and stabbed the two men. Neither of the victims was seriously hurt.

The fight, about 9:40 p.m., broke out while about 300 people in the club were waiting for the band Cradle of Filth. Immediately following the incident, Bleeding Through lead singer Brandan Schieppati told the crowd that a close friend of the band (Alsip) had been stabbed, and explained he believed everyone should be welcome at a Bleeding Through show and that the violence displayed was uncalled for. The band promptly left stage to join Alsip in the hospital. Police evacuated the building after the incident and stopped the show.

Germany's mother told The Enquirer her son was trying to keep concert-goers from rushing a door when a fight broke out and he defended himself. She said he took the knife from one of the patrons.

"We just panicked because we heard he was being beaten and stomped," said his mother, Diamond Star, of Columbus. "I have never had any problems with him."

Danny Calhoun, another Bogart's security guard who was working Monday night, said, "I didn't see him stab anybody. I didn't see who stabbed who."

Germany pleaded not guilty to two counts of felonious assault. He was released from jail after his mother paid $200 — 10 percent of his $2,000 bail. The case is scheduled to be heard by a grand jury Nov. 18.

Concert-goer Gregory Gonzales, 21, of Norwood also was arrested and charged with assault for allegedly punching Germany in the face.

Source: Blabbermouth.net

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1. ac666 writes:

And these are the kind of a$$holes that are given a free pass in your education system just because they can play football?

# Nov 11, 2004 @ 5:24 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. Emperor4Ever writes:

It was cool that the 12-15 of us that were out back of Bogarts got to meet Cradle of Filth and all, but it still sucks that we didn't get to see 'em play. I may have to take a road trip to Cleveland or Chicago for a show just to see them play live again. Them damn straight edges gotta ruin everything for us.

# Nov 12, 2004 @ 12:50 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. MadK writes:

Hey E-4ever there was a lot of ppl from my town that went and were left dissapointed
I hope that kid makes it and the jock arsehole gets it in the joint!
Hey man you should check out www.indymetal.com theres metalheads from cincy, indy
and chicago talking about the incident.

# Nov 12, 2004 @ 6:25 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. delinquent writes:

f*** those straight edge f***wits.
those piss weak chicks are always crying, but it's never their fault.
sorry i wasn't there to help that dude chop em up.

# Nov 13, 2004 @ 4:34 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. Emperor4Ever writes:

I don't think that Germany did the stabbing. Everyone says he did, but I talked to that guy before a couple of times, and he doesn't seem like the kind of guy that would do that. I think, like he and others have said, that he was just defending himself, and just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. But that's just me. Anyhow, I seen them last year so it's not like I've never seen 'em play before. At least some of us got to meet 'em out back. It took 'em awhile to get outside cuz, as the scottish band manager was telling me, the cops were questioning them too. I just don't know why they would automatically have to assume that Cradle had anything to do with it. Absolute Bullsh**!!!

# Nov 14, 2004 @ 11:08 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. ryan writes:

wow have you met the president too? and ghandi? and jesus?

# Nov 15, 2004 @ 2:18 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. ryan writes:

dude no one gives a f*** if you met them...

# Nov 15, 2004 @ 2:22 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. ryan writes:

dude no one gives a f*** if you met them...

# Nov 15, 2004 @ 2:22 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. Big_Dan writes:

Man f***, I Would have stabbed those Punks too, just for being in a punk band. and don't f***in' give me this sh** that Hardcore isn't punk, because you know it is. Punk is to Hardcore as Heavy Metal is to Death Metal, it's the same sh** only more brutal. But Hardcore should really be called Pinkp***ypunk, because that's who plays hardcore.
Everyone say it with me "SNUFF OUT PUNKS, SNUFF OUT PUNKS, SNUFF OUT PUNKS......."

# Nov 15, 2004 @ 2:39 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. XFu@KxDrUGSX writes:

Im sXe and I f***ing love death,trash,and black metal!!!!! but b****s like f***in Big_Dan and delinquent are f***in it for you metal guys! wtf!? "snuff out punks"? and "sorry i wasn't there to help that dude chop em up" whats up with that!? Damn right im f***in edge! but i still show luv and respect for metal dudes and i get the same respect back! I think people need to chill out! Get to know other scenes and musical backgrounds before opening your f***in traps!!!

Oh yeh Small d*** dan and his tea-bagging boyfriend delinquent, you guys need think before you f***in talk!!!

# Nov 16, 2004 @ 7:03 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. Emperor4Ever writes:

I have met the Omega Christ. f*** Bush, I would stab him if I met him. Same with Kerry if he got elected. Politics suck in fact. All Bullsh** in the end!!! Even you Ryan.

# Nov 17, 2004 @ 12:22 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. ac666 writes:

Ah, but you haven't met the Andy Christ yet....

Yeah, and politicians should all die.

# Nov 17, 2004 @ 7:27 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. MadK writes:

Perhaps we'll all meet one in day either in Hell or maybe an intnl metalfest!

# Nov 17, 2004 @ 7:31 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. ac666 writes:

My financial state indicates that hell is most likely of the two... D'oh!

# Nov 17, 2004 @ 7:38 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. Big_Dan writes:

f***in' kids "Yeah I'm Edge". mother f***er, your just a puss, one day you'll find out, you don't have to listen to mommy anymore. You love and respect metal dudes? who cares whe hate you, we hate humans, we want them all to die. And I need to get to know other scenes eh? mother f***er you don't know me! I'm sitting here whereing a Lynyrd Skynyrd Shirt. I listen to everything but rap. I like some punk, but it's a$$holes like you that doesn't make me even want to like other punk, especially any music that wants to force their beliefs on me, like thinking it's cool cause you don't do drugs. I don't do hardcore drugs myself, I just Drink Whiskey, beer and anything that's alcoholic, but I don't follow trends that make up those decsions for me. Heres some advice Fu@kDrugs, Think for your self, and speak for your self.....PUNK

# Nov 17, 2004 @ 9:51 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. Peace????? writes:

Wow..heavy sh**....cant we all just get along????

# Nov 19, 2004 @ 9:28 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. ac666 writes:

No.

# Nov 19, 2004 @ 5:14 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. BloodxLust writes:

f*** Big_Dan he's just full of hate!!

# Nov 19, 2004 @ 6:26 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. THaDeal! writes:

Yeah! f*** Big_Dan !!!

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