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Limp Bizkit Working On New EP, "The Unquestionable Truth Part. 2"

American nu metal veterans Limp Bizkit have announced that they have begun work on a brand new EP entitled, "The Unquestionable Truth (Part 2,)" which as the title suggests, is the follow up to their 2006 EP, "The Unquestionable Truth (Part 1)"

Frontman Fred Durst has boldly described the record as, "The heaviest, most crazy metal record of all time." The EP will be released through the bands new label, Cash Money Records, though no release date has been confirmed as of this time.

Limp Bizkit reunited in early 2009 and released their first album featuring their "classic" lineup in eleven years in the summer of last year in the form of "Gold Cobra," which topped the Billboard Hard Rock Albums Chart.

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1. BrokenFace writes:

Fred durst you chat sh** sometimes.

# Mar 9, 2012 @ 4:57 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. KORNDOGG writes:

Okay, I dont hate limp bizkit. But their time has come and gone. I cant help but laugh at the statement "the heaviest, most craziest metal record of all time", followed by "cash money records". Wow......

# Mar 9, 2012 @ 6:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. Caveman1 writes:

I was under the impression he did it all for the nookie, and now he is saying that he is back to being metal- what a joke

# Mar 9, 2012 @ 7:31 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. Caveman1 writes:

his song "counterfeit" mustve been all about himself

# Mar 9, 2012 @ 7:32 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. brandedcfh420 writes:

FK THESE WANKSTA WIGGAS!!

# Mar 9, 2012 @ 9:07 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. ZMA writes:

It'd be cool to see Limp Bizkit reinvent themselves and actually get heavier. Like more thrashy or something cause I can't see them going in any death routes. Also I'm listening to Baptized In Blood right now which is pretty thrashy so that's what came to mind lol.

# Mar 9, 2012 @ 10:23 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. DixieSkumLord666 writes:

Fred Durst...just stop...please, for the sake of humanity...nu metal is dead, let it stay that way

# Mar 10, 2012 @ 1:18 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. whocares69 writes:

They are whores, always been whores, and always will be whores. They dont care about the opinions of metalunderground. They care about $$$ plain and simple. I have to admit that i liked 3 dollar bill yall and was at the right age and right time to have some appreciation for nookie (very sad indeed) but numetal is so dead that the founders (korn and some could say sepultura roots) have left it like last nights breakfast. People are still buying this sh**. And it will continue until they dont make a profit.

# Mar 10, 2012 @ 2:11 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. Lololol writes:

^ just called Sepultura the founder of nu metal lol

# Mar 10, 2012 @ 2:21 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. BrokenFace writes:

lol sepultura founder of nu metal.
If LB did go heavier i dont see them going thrashier, i see them more going into emmure style slow sh**ty riffs with bullsh** lyrics .
Dont get me wrong i actually like LB the only thing that puts me off is freds lyrics.
"Gold Is So Gold So Golden Yall Golden Cobra"

# Mar 10, 2012 @ 8:08 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. Overlord writes:

I haven't taken a word out of this douchebags mouth seriously.

And even he isn't ignorant enough to call Sepultura Nu-Metal trolololololol.

# Mar 10, 2012 @ 12:03 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. hellrat writes:

Die, Durst, DIE!!!

You are a total piece of sh**, always sh**ting out of your face

Go hang yourself from the monkey bars at the playground

hahahahaha

# Mar 10, 2012 @ 2:29 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. R10 writes:

Ha,classic HR! Yea,cool that Imp Bizkits working on new sh*t. I really could care less. Apparently theres still a market for this nonsense;still liked and respected in some quarters. A heavier Imp Bizkit? Thats a joke! NP: Onslaught-Let There Be Death!

# Mar 10, 2012 @ 2:49 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. charest writes:

wow what a joke

# Mar 10, 2012 @ 9:48 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. charest writes:

and the Sepultura nu-metal comment makes me want to choke a b****

*now playing Beneath the Remains*

# Mar 10, 2012 @ 9:51 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. psythe writes:

Sepultura clearly are not nu metal - but he did point out their 'Roots' album in particular, which you actually could say took steps in that direction (especially compared to their other efforts).

Havnt heard Gold Cobra yet, but I've been told it rocks... by a friend who loves linkin park and disturbed. That said, I havnt even heard Unquestionable Truth Part 1 yet, soooo... Keep on rollin. I guess.

# Mar 11, 2012 @ 4:46 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. WOLF7 writes:

Psythe, I actually thought Truth Part 1 was pretty good. "Propaganda" really kicked ass. Well, "pretty good" as in "better than expected".

As for "Gold Cobra", I thought it was pretty weak. 13 tracks and only 3 of them were solid imo ( Get a life, Shotgun, Walking away).
Having said that, maybe Bizkit should focus on making EPs since their albums are full of fillers.

As for the comment #8, Sepultura - Roots and Nu Metal, I actually think there's something to it.
When you listen to Roots tracks like "Dusted" or "Spit", that's Slipknot right there, especially "Dusted", that IS Slipknot!

So could we say Sepultura kind of helped do develop the nu metal sound while making their masterpiece "Roots"?

Is that a passable way to put it, or was that the final straw and DB will now cancel my MU membership? ;)

# Mar 11, 2012 @ 12:10 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. R10 writes:

Definately agree wolf with the Roots/nu-metal statement. Max took that and used that sound in Soulfly also. Definate nu-metal,and i believe Durst was a guest vocalist on that first Soulfly album,along with Chino of the Deftones if i remember right. I never liked Limp Bizkit,but those Deftones albums got plenty of plays,they still do.

# Mar 11, 2012 @ 12:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. OverkillExposure writes:

I think Sepultura's impact on the development of nu-metal has been pretty thoroughly documented and discussed by now. I acknowledged it a decade ago, and it's never made me enjoy Roots any less. The label "nu-metal" is only an albatross if you make it one, guys. So what's the big deal? Point is, it didn't suck back when THEY did it.

# Mar 11, 2012 @ 12:31 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. WOLF7 writes:

Agreed, gents.

And no reason trying to turn "nu-metal" into an albatross. A pigeon's a pigeon.

# Mar 11, 2012 @ 12:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. Overlord writes:

uhhh... @19

I'm a proud maggot, I love myself some good Nu-Metal, I wasn't making it into an Albatross.

And also, Nu-Metal takes more influence from punk music than Sepultura lol. The only similarity I see is the grooviness (if that's a word).

# Mar 11, 2012 @ 2:29 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. charest writes:

wow i didnt notice he put roots after sepultura, my bad

# Mar 11, 2012 @ 3:25 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. RememberMetal? writes:

R10
I would say that The Deftones were influential on and influenced by nu-metal artists but they are more alt-metal and post-rock than anything. Great band imho, their latest album is at least as good as "White Pony". It only took them 10 years to get back on track...

Limp Bizkit is a whole other beast, that train derailed before it even left the station. That said, I don't think all nu-metal is bad... just the overwhelming majority.

I thought the first two Korn, Slipknot and Mudvayne albums were all pretty damn amazing for their time.

# Mar 12, 2012 @ 7:57 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. R10 writes:

I agree RM. Im think Sepulturas Roots album actually predated the term "nu-metal" anyways. I really dont remember the word being thrown around until maybe 97-98. By then the Crazy Towns,Limp Bizkits,etc had entered that scene. Like you,there were some quality releases in that sub genre i listened to,and still like to listen to from time to time today. Good musics still good music,no matter what sub genre tag its been given . And hey,not ashamed to say i liked the first couple of Sevendust,Staind,Korn,etc albums.

# Mar 12, 2012 @ 8:47 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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25. RememberMetal? writes:

Alright, you got me on one more R10. I was a very vocal and early (pre-"Home") supporter of Sevendust. For the first time since "Next" I was compelled to pick up "Cold Day Memory".

Crazy Town... now there's a band name best left to the deepest, darkest, norrowest, most isolated and frigid confines of the catacombs of music history.

# Mar 12, 2012 @ 10:02 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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26. KanadianKoRn writes:

kannot believe I just read that the almighty sepultura is new metal....I just puked in my mouth..then spat it on my keyboard...

# Mar 12, 2012 @ 10:29 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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27. WOLF7 writes:

^ Sepultura is NOT nu metal, but listening to Roots, they're definitely partly responsible for it. But you know, no one's perfect ;) Accident's happen.

RM, I agree on argument nro1 on the Deftones: They truly are a great band.
They're not exactly metal, they're not rock, nor pop or Nu-metal, they simply make Deftones music, and imo that's a sign of a great band.

And on the 2nd one I don't: Diamond Eyes is great, but I think they've made great albums all along. Their 2003 release "Deftones" was hard to get into, but it's still got plenty of good tracks on it.
And "Saturday Night Wrist" is an awesome album!
But I understand they're not for everyone's liking though.

# Mar 12, 2012 @ 12:47 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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28. KORNDOGG writes:

I personally like adrenaline and around the fur, after those there is a few good tracks here and there. But those two albums were solid, start to finish. Plus Deftones live are not very good, seen them 3 times. I liked all LB records , except unquestionable truth 1 and gold cobra.

# Mar 12, 2012 @ 1:03 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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29. KanadianKoRn writes:

plz people help me with some clarification, cause i am stumped at the root :p what is the official classification of new metal, cause to my understanding it was the whole hiphop vibe to it, lyrics and the bass. now im hearing that the guitar riffs can shape what we call newmetal? how so? i just dont see how roots shows us that..

# Mar 12, 2012 @ 1:05 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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30. Definition writes:

:: Wiki ::

Nu metal (also known as nĂ¼-metal,[4] aggro-metal,[1][5] neo-metal[6] or new metal) is a subgenre[7] of heavy metal.[4][8][9][10] It is a fusion genre[9] which combines elements of heavy metal with other genres, including grunge and hip hop. The genre gained mainstream success in the late 1990s and early 2000s.

:: Urban Dictionary ::

The boy bands of metal. A form of music with repetive and irratating riffs, deridable forced angst lyrics, bad singing, and an undeniable lack of talent. It is a trend among Hot Topic sheep goths, steroid addicted jocks, and 10 year olds who just have been introduced to MTV. The music is commercialized, fake, and mixes metal with forms of rapcore and bad alternative rock. Bands include Slipknot, KoRn, Cold, etc.

# Mar 12, 2012 @ 1:23 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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31. bananaterracottapie1 writes:

Thanks, KORNDOGG (#) for offering your invaluable opinion on the Deftones live experience.


#MAJOR emphasis on the name.

# Mar 12, 2012 @ 1:25 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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32. KanadianKoRn writes:

^^saw deftones live b4, they were great!

definition- was a serious question..im aware of both those answers that mean absolutely nothing of what im asking...thx for notta...quoting wiki. pathetic.

# Mar 12, 2012 @ 1:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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33. RememberMetal? writes:

My take.

Sepultura: a significant influence on nu-metal and slightly influenced by nu-metal but not a nu-metal group.

WOLF7
I think the self-titled Deftones album had some amazing tracks but as an album front to back, it is their weakest. 'Saturday Night Wrist' was definitely a step up from there but it still had some ("Pink Cell Phone" comes to mind) disappointments for me. "Diamond Eyes" was the first 'tones album I've enjoyed track for track since the initial three brilliant albums.

KORNDOGG
Indeed, The Deftones are a studio band if there ever was one. Having seen them twice, I will say that they put on a fairly clean and very energetic show on their 2010 tour which stood in great contrast to the show I caught in '00.

KanadianKoRn
Nu-metal includes but is not limited to hip-hop vocal and instrumental elements, fixation on angst/bravado-style lyrics, turn tables, great emphasis on bass and groove, downtuned guitars... there has to be more but that's what's coming to mind.

The most classic and archetypal bands I think of are Korn, Limp Bizkit, (hed) PE, Disturbed, Staind, Coal Chamber, Godsmack, Papa Roach and POD.

# Mar 12, 2012 @ 1:57 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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34. KanadianKoRn writes:

Thank you RM, thats a respectable answer. So in regards to roots? were talkin down tuned guitars and the groove to it?

# Mar 12, 2012 @ 2:13 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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35. R10 writes:

Some pretty good examples of nu-metal RM. A few more: Adema,Static X,Spineshank,Snot. But your definitions fairly accurate. Deftones were certainly lumped in with the whole nu-metal genre,but they certainly distanced themselves from the pack after Around the Fur. I remember they really were'nt with the label,tried to distance themselves from it. I also recall reading reviews on Seps Roots album when it came out,critics in Metal Maniacs heralded it as a daring masterpiece,got rave reviews. It took me awhile to warm to it;i was really getting into Arise and Chaos AD at the time.

# Mar 12, 2012 @ 2:15 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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36. KORNDOGG writes:

Well your entitled to your opinion banana, even if it is worthless. But if your trying to say Deftones are better than Korn live, then you not entitled to a opinion, because thats just idiotic. Chino sounded horrible all 3 times, instruments sounded on key. And they do have alot of energy, just Chino sounded nothing like he does in the studio. And I prefer a band to sound almost exactly like the record.

# Mar 12, 2012 @ 2:31 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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37. KanadianKoRn writes:

gaaawd korndogg. where in his statement did he say the 2 bands are comparable live. I mean i agree with you that korns live show is wikd but come on man...he never compared the 2 live experiences. your also entitled to be stupid but you far to often abuse the privilage ...You wanna see chino go off like the mad man he is watch the video with him on youtube collaberating with droid. nobody and i mean nobody can scream like chino..

# Mar 12, 2012 @ 2:40 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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38. KanadianKoRn writes:

again thank you for your imput r10

# Mar 12, 2012 @ 2:41 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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39. RememberMetal? writes:

... Gah, how did I leave Linkin Park out of my list of nu-metal bands. A copy of 'Hybrid Theory' and their 2000 band photo should be captioned next to the definition.

# Mar 12, 2012 @ 2:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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40. KanadianKoRn writes:

lol and project wyze!

# Mar 12, 2012 @ 2:52 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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41. KORNDOGG writes:

KK, major emphysis on the name, im pretty sure that is what he was getting at. Anyways, a few more I consider nu metal are faith no more and RATM, some would disagree but they do fit the definition.

# Mar 12, 2012 @ 3:08 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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42. Hold-It writes:

I don't mind the Sepultura comment as much, but Faith No More? Absolutely not. You need to rephrase that. There is absolutely NO way shape or form Faith No More can be considered Nu Metal. I seriously hope you aren't basing this on the ONE F UCKING song they did with a rap like Epic. That has to be one of the stupidest things I've heard in my entire life. No joke.

# Mar 12, 2012 @ 8:58 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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43. Overlord writes:

I love how one well worded writer comments that Roots influenced nu-metal and all of a sudden EVERYONE changes their opinion hahaha, well done Overkill.

It may be true... I would imagine a writer on the subject would have a more accurate, well-informed opinion, but I sure don't see it... :/


& @42
There's no way Faith No More is nu-metal (trolololol wtf?) but you would have to be blatantly ignorant to deny their influence. The rapping is the most obvious lol.

# Mar 12, 2012 @ 9:28 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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44. Granted writes:

They may have involuntarily influenced the aforementioned sub genre which we are discussing here, but FNM is the furthest thing from Nu Metal you could possibly imagine.

Even Mike Patton himself acknowledges the truth which Im shedding light on here. That people generally tend to base their opinions on FNM based on the one song he rapped on.

Which is a sad fact, given their enormous catalogue of truly unique music. By that logic you can also label them as country, jazz, punk, and several other genre tags of which their sonic roots encompass. Fortunately they do not down tune their guitars, they don't feature turn tables, and the only rap they did was on Epic.

The issue so many people have with Nu Metal, is that its a sub genre thats completely focused on a snob like attitude where the music is overshadowed by the bands own image. The majority of Nu Metal acts clearly payed more attention to their backwards hats and eye candy, than the actual depth of song writing.

Many of those bands have stated themselves that they are in it just for fame and fortune, and that reflects clearly through what they present to the public. If it was something that had integrity and substance, more people would embrace it. Thankfully, people are smarter than most would assume, and have a short attention span for these kinds of novelties.

Nu Metal bands don't last for a reason. They have their moment of glory, and quickly die out. These days, they are lucky if anyone gives them five minutes of fame as opposed to the standard fifteen.

# Mar 12, 2012 @ 10:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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45. Overlord writes:

As I said, Faith No More are not even close to nu-metal.

You seem to think them influencing a wide variety of subgenres is a terrible thing, it is actually a huge praise , as it's necessary to explore every avenue of music. Without hip hop (which I have no interest in as a genre) we would not have Bonobo, Nujabes, or DJ Okawari, who have spearheaded a unique genre.

Well there may be a number of so-called snobby nu-metal bands, it comes with the fame. Nu-metal happened to get extremely popular, which gets to a lot of musicians heads. I don't think nu-metal has any higher a ratio than any other genre. "Many of these bands" admitting to being in it only for money and fame translates roughly into one, Limp Bizkit (which I would call rap/rock or something other than nu-metal).

It's only close-minded fools like you who complain about nu-metal being about the "image" when it isn't it's about the live show, DUHHH. For example, the self proclaimed "Big Four" of Slipknot, Mushroomhead, Mudvayne, and Gwar all focus on their live show, not their image. You will never fully appreciate Slipknot until you see them live, I will vouch for that.

I f***ing ROFL'd @ "Nu Metal bands don't last." The aforementioned Big Four have been around since '95, '93, '96, and '84, respectively.

# Mar 13, 2012 @ 3:42 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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46. RememberMetal? writes:

FNM is nu-metal the same way that Mozart is nu-metal... in that they very much are not.

As with Sepultura, FNM was an influence on nu-metal. Acts like the Run DMC, Anthrax, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Beastie Boys, Rage Against the Machine, and Bodycount were paving the way for nu-metal years before it existed as we know it and had a name. They were not nu-metal acts themselves but got the horrible boulder rolling. I'm sure they all lose sleep over it, especially Mike Patton.

# Mar 13, 2012 @ 8:26 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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47. bananaterracottapie1 writes:

lol@ KORNDOGG.

I guess that's all I need to say. I could stop typing at this point and post this comment and my opinion would still be relevant and I'm sure everyone agrees with me. FNM are nu-metal? ROFLCOPTER! I think a relatively simple retort like "Cool story, bro" would suffice in this situation BUT I'll indulge you anyway. KanadianKorn was right when he said I wasn't comparing the two bands but now I'm gonna do just that. Why? Cause this is gonna be fun.

Ok, let's focus on the present shall we? What's Korn(y) doing right now? Oh yeah, they just put out a dubstep album, right? LOL. Jon Davis sounds like my grandmother live... If she was Bi-Polar and threw hissy fits every five minutes. Don't even get me started on his lyrics, man 'cause that sh** is downright deplorable. The first two albums were great but the lyrical content has been regurgitated for every subsequent album. It's always 'wah wah my life sucks' this or 'wah wah i wanna cry' that. I'll give him one thing though : He always finds new ways to write self-deprecatory bullsh**. Their musicianship sucks, there's nothing innovative about anything they are doing right now. They're not heavy either. They are basically aggro music for the pop crowd and nothing more. They suck.

Now Deftones on the other hand, recently put out one of the best albums of their career. Every song on every album of theirs sounds different. Can you think of any other band in the world that is capable of doing that? Chino's lyrics are some of the most abstract and creative in the heavy music realm. Sure, Chino sounds very unfocused live but guess what? That's the point! He's not a traditional singer and has never been. He probably has the most unique voice in Metal/Hardcore right now, there's no one else that sounds quite like him (Many have tried though). His voice provides the atmosphere and aesthetics for the music. The music is like a newly bought Hayabusa and Chino's voice is the shmexy mofo that rides it, to put it in Layman's (read : kdawg) terms. That's why every single show of theirs is a different experience. If you can't understand or comprehend that about their music then you're looking for the same things in their music that you would find on a Korn cd (read : easily digestable mediocre bullsh**). Not to mention how experimental the 'tones music is : Alternate tunings, off time signatures, abstract noisescapes, you name it.

To sum it all up : Deftones>;Korn
*ding ding ding*
No contest. Come at me, brah.

# Mar 13, 2012 @ 10:17 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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48. KORNDOGG writes:

^ What the f*** are you smoking? Every deftones song sounds different? Each one of their shows is a different experience? LOL. Okay, now im forced to rip on a band I actually enjoy, just not live. I own every deftones record, and have listened to every song numerous times. Your a little deftones fanboy is all you are, I on the other hand will admit they are a good band, but nothing like you have mentioned above. Alot of their sh** sounds the same, chino can scream, no doubt about that. In no way does he have a great singing voice. So he sings of key on purpose? Your saying thats the point, right? Or could it be, hes just not a great performer, or live singer, PERIOD! As stated adrenaline and around the fur were solid, after that it was a few tracks here and there. And some absolute horrific songs also.

Now on to korn, I on the other hand will admit when a band I love puts out a horrible album, or is horrible live. Every Korn album up until see you on the other side, is good. See you on the other side and self titled, Im ashamed to even have bought. Korn III was a step back in the right direction, and now (while I enjoy a little dubstep) the path of totality is a toss up. I like them trying new things, but at the same time should stick to their roots. If you believe korns live show is anything but amazing, then your just not honest with yourself, and have such a hate for them that you cant get yourself to admit it. I know alot of people who absolutely hate korn, but are blown away with their live set.

Your paragraphs were all opinionated, as are mine. So ding, ding, ding. Nobody wins.

# Mar 13, 2012 @ 11:46 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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49. KORNDOGG writes:

And yes RATM and FNM helped pave the way for nu metal, I should have stated that differently. But in a sense they were the nu metal before it arrived. Nu metal is a great genre when used correctly, Korn, slipknot, staind, deftones, mudvayne, cold and a few others came from nu metal, and have out lived it. While the limps, pods, and coal chambers have all faded with it. Nu metal is dead, those bands that out lived it have kinda changed and grew away from it.

# Mar 13, 2012 @ 11:52 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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50. Overlord writes:

I've never liked Korn, I don't like their style but I have nothing against them (I hear the dubstep album is really embarrasing though).

The Deftones on the other hand... possibly the worst live act I have ever seen. Maybe they should stop trying to make "every show different" and just try and teach that guy how to sing.

# Mar 13, 2012 @ 3:14 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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51. hellrat writes:

Ah yes, so it would appear that any band that unwittingly suffered the misfortune of having some aspect of their style poached by the Nu-Metal frontrunners could rightly be considered the hapless Mariners stricken by the taint of this Nu-chunder Albatross eh? ;)

"Sipknot, Mushroomhead, Mudvayne and Gwar all focus on their live show, not their image..."

Good Golly, that has got to be one of the most ironically contrary observations I've ever encountered on here...very interesting! :)

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52. SomeDeathFanboy writes:

Thank you fred durst we desperately needed another album from your ever so talented band

# Mar 13, 2012 @ 8:56 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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53. Overlord writes:

Hellrat, if you can't comprehend the difference between a band's image and their live show, you need to go to more shows.

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54. KORNDOGG writes:

I agree ^, come on HR :)

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55. hellrat writes:

So, you would argue that the bands you mentioned (in particular) do not have a carefully considered, constructed (fabricated) image that is fundamentally intrinsic to their respective live presentations?

Like I said, very interesting! :)

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56. Overlord writes:

lmao, oh I see now, you've some sort of problem with the masks/makeup/outfit thing... grow the f*** up dude, Black Metal is another genre that focuses on the bands presentation during a concert, so by your logic they're all terrible musicians too.

I find it "very interesting" you assume you can mock me with such an ignorant opinion.

:) :) :) :)

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57. Drum_Junkie writes:

I guess I need to go to more shows, Overlord.
I've seen Slipknot (3x), Gwar (3x), and Mudvayne (1x)
I haven't seen Mushroomhead, so I can't comment knowledgeably about them.
It seems Knot, Vayne and Gwar all incorporate their image as an intrinsic part of their live show. (Although, Mudvayne is currently not using the costumes and stage names.)
How does the image they put out differ from their live presentation?
Slipknot's image: Aggressive, angry, and horror themed.
Slipknot's live show: Aggressive, angry, with lots of pyro.
Gwars image: Cartoonish violence, and alien personas.
Gwars live show: Cartoonish violence and alien personas.
Mudvayne changed their visuals and from what I've read, their intent was for the visuals to support and enhance the music and to set them apart from the crowd.

It doesn't seem like any of these bands really like the Nu-metal moniker. They also align their image with their live show. Additionally, none of those bands have anything in common with the douchey subject of this article, IMHO.

So what am I missing here?

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58. Overlord writes:

Junkie, I couldn't have said it any better. I guess I was splitting hairs with the band's image and their live show, but I was originally referring to this comment,

"The issue so many people have with Nu Metal, is that its a sub genre thats completely focused on a snob like attitude where the music is overshadowed by the bands own image."

I think he was referring to their image in a similar way this claim by Fred Durst is only about his image, and has nothing to do with his live show.

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59. hellrat writes:

Oh no, the mighty ittle Overlord is feeling sensitive eh!

I don't have a problem with any of your precious band's images, nor did I EVER allude to any of them being 'terrible musicians'....you are evidently too emotionally attached to the subject to see the matter objectively. Your witcraft and debate skills are quite abyssmal as well....pfffft

But since you brought up Black Metal, I do find it mildly intriguing that the band with the greatest musicianship in the genre also happens to be one of the most visually understated.

Hmmmm, could it be that there MIGHT be SOME sort of correlation??? Very interesting!

And yes, now I am openly mocking you O'Lordy :)

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# Mar 15, 2012 @ 1:06 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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60. Overlord writes:

y u heff to be mad ?

# Mar 15, 2012 @ 1:41 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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61. ZMA writes:

Like a drunken whore at Ozzfest, this thread really jumped around.
I'm glad that nu-metal is dead though. Because now you only have a select amount of bands who do it as a choice, not a money scheme. Kind of like deathcore. Right now the market is absolutely flooded with deathcore bands. But in a few years the genre will either slow down or die out and we'll be left with a few...........*clears throat*..... core bands that'll hold the genre together. But bands that actually do the genre justice like All Shall Perish and Killwhitneydead to name 2.
I could just be thinkin' crazy though. Either way I didn't hate nu-metal, but I couldn't listen to it all the time.

Very weird arguments sparked up in this thread lol.

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62. R10 writes:

Good post Z! Every sub-genre in metal has those bands that stand out,go on to have long careers. Yea,weird thread,started out about Imp Bizkit,then Sepultura,then Korn,Deftones,Slipknot,etc. Good dialogue though.

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63. KanadianKoRn writes:

hahahaha i was thinkin the same thing

# Mar 15, 2012 @ 3:09 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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64. hellrat writes:

Nah Overlord, I ain't mad buddy...slightly amused, yes and thank you for that

I guess I just take ever so slight exception to the dishing out of presumtuousness and insult from someone who has failed to comprehend my point...nevermind the misguided black metal analogy that utterly backfired on ya as well ;)

Anyway, I wasn't maliciously mocking you to begin with... I was just givin ya a bit of jolly good hell, and you had to get all feelings

mighty thanks to DeeJ fer 'splainin it to ye :)

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65. Enough writes:

^ needs to put the thesaurus down and stop arguing like a 5 year old

# Mar 15, 2012 @ 4:46 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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66. KanadianKoRn writes:

^lol dont be mad cause hooked on phonics didnt work for you.

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67. Overlord writes:

lmfao, I understood your point, I was laughing at you for it.

The best you can do is argue that Emperor didn't have a specific look on stage? Emperor doesn't need a look, they have Ihsahn.

lmfao
:) :) :)

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68. R10 writes:

Overlord buddy,the last guy you want to pick a vebal debate with on this site is Hellrat. Seriously,id just walk away if i were you. HR's oldschool,knows his metal,trust me.

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69. Blindgreed1 writes:

Overlord has taken so much uncut sausage to the jaw and rope to the face that his face looks like a painters radio.

sup fvckers?

I see HR found a mouse to play with before he kills it again.

Why hasn't Oz chimed in yet?

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70. Blindgreed1 writes:

Oooooohhh yeaaaaahhh! 69!

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71. Overlord writes:

haha hey I respect I'm pretty new here and this guys been around for a while by the looks of things.

It doesn't change the fact that he hasn't had a good point yet...

Just sayin!

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Don't listen to them. Playing favorites and elitism on a forum is another way of expressing their lack of daily activities in order to make time for such immature discussion. In other words, the people who spend the majority of their time commenting a forum typically don't have a life.

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73. R10 writes:

#72: says the guy with 6 comments in this thread;including a wiki definition of "nu-metal".

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74. KORNDOGG writes:

The only reason not to pick a argument with hellrat, is because you wont understand the jibberish language he posts in.

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75. RTB writes:

I think its jargon kd...
Sam dunn was quoted in metal evolution, along the lines of linking sepulturas last studio album featuring max as the beginning of the nu metal era, or spawning it...
Durst got this from from dunn, so i wouldnt rip fred for that...
I listened to the gold cobra cd, it sounded more like a hip hop album than a rock record, be intresting to see what this next album sounds like

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76. Blindgreed1 writes:

I'm actually surprised 72 didn't go in for the "eating cheetos and drinking mountain dew in your mother's basement" line, but then it's still early.

@ Overlord: HR made his point. DJ clarified it further. Don't deny it just because your arse chapped. It's okay. A lot of people come in here and underestimate HR. He's a master fisherman. lol.

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77. bananaterracottapie1 writes:

"I'm glad that nu-metal is dead though. Because now you only have a select amount of bands who do it as a choice, not a money scheme." You sir, speak the truth. /close thread

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78. Blindgreed1 writes:

Good call Banana. Allright. You heard the man. Lets clear out!!! You don't have to go home but you can't stay here. *starts smearing his feces on the walls*

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79. ALASKADP writes:

I love to get on here to talk trash about trash talkers. Listen...How many of you still listen to slayer, metallica, hell even Ozzy...If a band is good at what they do then they will continue to do what they do. If you don't like them don't listen to them. You guys hating are the ones making them the millions that their nearing 40 asses still make. My opinion, get it done. One more thing, name a band that isn't excited about their next album this is no different than what many other bands do. Even the ones you haven't heard of. They didn't say it was gonna be the best album ever, its gonna be there craziest hardest album ever....just for the record....

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80. Blindgreed1 writes:

Is that how you "talk trash" in Alaska? Fvckin weak man. Here's an idea. How about you get back in your igloo and stick to bangin penguins? "If you don't like it don't listen"? Really? That's what you brought to the party? What are you?... 12? STFU and GTFO.

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81. Overlord writes:

lol hey don't bring the poor penguins into this.

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82. Blindgreed1 writes:

Yeah, I guess that was going a bit far. He's still a moose fvcker though. Lol.

# Mar 18, 2012 @ 3:47 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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83. whocares69 writes:

So, i'm the guy that made the Nu-Metal / Sepultura reference

All i can say is WOW! After posting my comment and seeing charest's response, I realized I should have been more specific and quit reading the thread. The article is about LB and they arent worth defending. Bands evolved more like Korn than LB. I would think the lasting characteristics would define the genre. Also look at Ross Robinson's production catalog on wiki, coincidence? How many bands that have been mentioned here are on that list? Jonathan Davis also sang on "Lookaway"on Roots.

Props to wolf7 for the "Dusted"similarity to Slipknot. An interesting re-listen. Interesting discussions by many.

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84. Limp Bizket fan writes:

You guys are just jealous that wes borland and Fred Durst are so successful, and they invented modern day heavy metal.


All you haters hate! Long live Limp Bizket

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85. RememberMetal? writes:

^ You're a fan of a band whose name you can not spell. Awesome.

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86. Blindgreed1 writes:

MUUUUHAHAHAHAHA!!! RM for the kill shot.

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