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New Soul Embraced Album To Arrive In May; Band Seeks Donations To Fund Release

Rottweiler Records has issued the following press release:

"After 10 years and 5 releases, Little Rock, AR-based American Christian death metal band Soul Embraced parted ways amicably with Solid State Records. Rottweiler Records is to release their new record "Mythos" next year.

"Soul Embraced is comprised of band members Chad Moore - Lead Vocals, Ed Collins - Guitar, Jeff Bowie - Bass Guitar, and Rocky Gray (also of Living Sacrifice, Ex-Evanesence, We Are The Fallen, and Machina) - Drums

"This particular Soul Embraced release sees the band in 100% artistic control over art, music, and production. Rocky Gray has stated that "Mythos" WILL BE Soul Embraced's MOST BRUTAL ALBUM YET!!

"Rottweiler Records is excited to be a part of this monumental project and is excited to be able to have you, the fans, be such an integral part of this becoming a reality! We hope we've been able to offer some nice incentives for helping this thing out!

"Thanx a million!!"

A Kickstarter campaign has been launched soliciting fan donations to fund the release.

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1. sonictherapy writes:

We saw something similar to this recently when Marshall "Fvcking" Beck of Rebirth launched a kickstarter campaign. He said if the fans didn't step up and donate, the band would put out a record that sounded like Linkin Park.

# Jan 4, 2012 @ 9:26 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. OverkillExposure writes:

^Hahaha I would've released a fake teaser track that sounded like Linkin Park, to shame and enrage people before dropping the real thing.

# Jan 4, 2012 @ 9:34 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. btbamfav20 writes:

f***ing christians always asking for their damned donations... piss off and stop asking poeple for money jesus f***ers

NP: A Shield With An Iron Face - Absu

# Jan 4, 2012 @ 11:34 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. brandedcfh420 writes:

they should go ask their sheeple church going pals for donations!! fu(k these bit(hes!!!

# Jan 5, 2012 @ 8:49 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. Drum_Junkie writes:

Hey, at least they're just asking. It's your choice to donate or not. The same can't be said for government, or banks, or credit card companies.
No details provided on the nice incentives. Could be worth it to the fans. Depending on what's being offered in return, it could be a nice... uh, what's the word.... oh yeah... incentive for the fans. It's not like they're asking for money without offering anything in return.
The key difference is that they are asking for the money up front. Pay me now or pay me later.

To btbam and branded: It seems to me that they are asking for donations from their fans (which likely include a few church sheeple). It doesn't sound like you are fans, so they may not be targeting you for monetary assistance. Regardless, of their beliefs, I would view any band in similar financial circumstances the same way. It's a different financial approach and I'm curious to see how well it pays off for them.

# Jan 5, 2012 @ 9:50 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. OverkillExposure writes:

As always DJ, perfectly stated.

# Jan 5, 2012 @ 12:01 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. LOU SELVEY writes:

a bake sale, washing cars, recycling, church social, mowing lawns, bingo night, walking dogs, babysitting, a paper route are some suggestions on what is the right way to accumliate funding, not panhandling
If your relieing on people for a hand out or waiting for a helping hand, your gonna be waiting for a long time, get off your duffs and work or make something happen

# Jan 5, 2012 @ 4:26 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. hellrat writes:

^I like this guys perspective MUCH better

Anyone lacking the basic fiber of personal integrity to shamelessly go about asking for handouts (promised 'incentive' be damned!) is a lazy and cheap beggar.

I have ZERO sympathy for, and will NEVER indulge, such wretchedness.

NP---Poor Man Blues---Jamey Johnson

# Jan 5, 2012 @ 6:49 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. Drum_Junkie writes:

"Anyone lacking the basic fiber of personal integrity to shamelessly go about asking for handouts (promised 'incentive' be damned!) is a lazy and cheap beggar."

And I thought you supported the political process. That sounds alot like political fundraising to me.

Hell, the politicians will lie straight to your face and tell you what they will do in the future for your donation - IF elected. It's not like you get your money back if they lose.
And it's not like they have the ability (or desire) to fullfill those empty promises if they DO get elected.

At least with this, they are offering something tangible.
*$10 and get the CD.
*$15 and get the CD + an exclusive bonus track.
*$25 and get the CD + the bonus track + a digital download copy 2 weeks before the release date.
*$30 and get the above with your name in the liner notes.
*$40 adds a promo photo.
It goes up too $200.

Its a different concept that establishes a connection with the fans and helps them to gauge interest in the album. They only had a goal of $3000 which has already been easily met. 3 grand ain't going to cover everything, so it seems like it was more for fan relations, which hardly seems objectionable. The fans are able to decide how to value their donation and they know exactly what they're getting. The only difference is paying up front vs. paying later.

# Jan 6, 2012 @ 1:36 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. brandedcfh420 writes:

@DJ: maybe they should work for it themselves!! maybe they should put forth the effort to get the $$ themselves however, instead asking for the money is the easier road to take and not earn the $!! it appears that they would rather ask for handouts instead of earning it themselves, which is typical of the world today!!

# Jan 6, 2012 @ 2:28 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. Drum_Junkie writes:

Branded: They're not asking for handouts.

Those that 'pledge' or 'donate' will be getting something in return - the incentives. Those listed in my previous comment were taken from the kickstarter website.
For the third time I'll say it again:
THOSE THAT GIVE MONEY WILL GET SOMETHING IN RETURN.
This is very similar to pre-order arrangements, except they are offering additional items for an additional cost.
They ARE providing a product for those that donate.
They are creating a connection with their fanbase.

# Jan 6, 2012 @ 2:48 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. R10 writes:

Given the climate in todays music industry,i really dont think its a bad idea on thier part. They might be onto something. Labels just dont have the money to throw around anymore. I admire the DIY ethic as much as the next guy; get in the van,tour and sell your music the old fashioned way. I think you'll see more of this,bands are struggling to put out thier work and make a living off from it.

# Jan 6, 2012 @ 2:51 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. brandedcfh420 writes:

@dj: call it what you will, but its a handout! if you were to go out there yourself and ask for "donations" for whatever what are you asking for?!?! A HANDOUT!!! donations are just people handing out money to someone else. as for your pre-order comment, that is people "pre-ordering" the product. this specific situation is the band asking for "handouts" so they can release the album. where did you get your info about them saying this is what you get for x amount of $?!?!

# Jan 6, 2012 @ 2:57 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. Drum_Junkie writes:

branded: click the kickstarter link in the article. In the right hand column is a list of what one gets with their "donation". My interpretation of a handout or donation is that the giver does not expect anything in return - like giving to a charity. This seems different to me, because those that give $10 or more will be getting the CD. $10 for a CD sounds like a deal compared to $12 - $16 at the local record store.

# Jan 6, 2012 @ 3:17 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. brandedcfh420 writes:

how much is the new record label throwing in to help out? ok i see the info now. then the article title needs to be re-worded to " band seeking pre-orders to help get the record released!!

# Jan 6, 2012 @ 3:26 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. R10 writes:

And the band is working for their "handout". They're writing and recording music for their fans. A handout is one who recieves something for nothing;the giver gives,recieves nothing in return. Ive got nothing against a working,professional band trying differant things to get thier product into thier fans hands. Dont know much about these guys,but good for them for trying something differant.

# Jan 6, 2012 @ 3:34 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. Drum_Junkie writes:

They're not the only band trying this.

MU... news/details.cfm?newsid=74980
(also noted by comment #1)
Seems like Marshall Beck is having a tougher time raising his fundage.

Browsed through the kickstarter website and the funding method is much more than just music. I found it interesting that Obscura used it to help release their Illegitimation demo (raising over $14k)

# Jan 6, 2012 @ 3:59 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. hellrat writes:

Wow DJ, where did ya come up with that bunch of left -field drivel (your response to my comment)? I SUPPORT THE POLITICAL PROCESS???
Good Lord, that's rich. :)

Didn't bother with clicking on the link, as I really don't give a flying fart about such an oxymoronic silliness as "Christian Death Metal"...what the hell does that even mean? ;)

Anyway, if these dudes are essentially offering an investment type model (albeit of highly questionable return), why the lovey-feely, goodwill hocus pocus 'donation' facade? Oh right, for the sake of being in possession of 'complete artistic control'...HA! What a frikken joke

My buddy Geof just published a book titled, 'Desert Bighorn, Arizona's Mountain Kings' which is an instant classic. The project was an incredible amount of work, taking up most of his free time (he has a full time career as an engineer) over the course of the last couple of years, and the printing is very expensive, as it is lavishly illustrated with color photographs. He could afford to fund a limited first edition of 250 numbered copies, and spread the word in the tight-knit global Wild Sheep circles that the sale of this entire intitial printing would be necessary in order to finance the general edition. The unadvertised 'incentive' for all of us whom supported the cause is the owning a copy of the limited run, which are sure to become highly valued and sought after collectors pieces. NO bullsh!t...he also is probably never going to make any real money from the thing, as his generous pricing basically covers overhead, and it will never be a commercial 'bestseller', relatively speaking.

These guys, on the other hand, are fvcking full of it. Hell, I can make ya a CD chock full of frikken 'Bonus Tracks' and scribble your name in the goddamned 'liner notes' for less than 50 cents! I would NEVER ask the public, much less my own fanbase 'family' to fund my recordings under some thinly veiled bullsh!t guise like these goofy dudes are trying to pull. And I'd be willing to bet that this band's paying fanbase does not match even the number of folks who will buy such a special-interest volume as 'Mountain Kings'

Also brother, I must ask you to refrain from appropriating ANY (especially such highly erronious) perspectives/philosophies to myself, as you quite simply don't know me very well. It is incredibly uncourteous and foolishly presumtuous for someone of your apparent manner and level of intelligence.

Thanks

# Jan 6, 2012 @ 5:03 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. OverkillExposure writes:

Not to butt in on the love, but I believe City Of Fire took a similar route in making their new record.

# Jan 6, 2012 @ 5:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. Drum_Junkie writes:

My apologies brother.

I thought I had read elsewhere on this site where you said that you had relatives in Congress and Senate and also during our conversation in the Forbidden OWS article you state the importance of working legitimately within political system.
"...of course the system is fvckin jacked, but we have to work with it legitimately."

I misstook the two to indicate your support for the political process. I jumped to a false assumption on that. Again, I offer my apologies for the insinuation.

I think a lot of this article has been overstated with the word 'donation'. FWIW, that word is not used at all on the kickstarter page for Soul Embraced album.

# Jan 6, 2012 @ 5:37 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. brandedcfh420 writes:

exactly, the "donations" word is what made me say what i said!!

# Jan 6, 2012 @ 6:23 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. hellrat writes:

Nah bro, its no worries man...maybe 'cheap and lazy beggar' was a bit harsh if them dudes ain't actually asking for donations. ;)

Yes, I've had many past family members in big politics, and that is a fact I'm not necessarily proud of. I fvcking DESPISE the system and the extreme level of overt corruption that oozes from its cracked visage, and its insolent sneer of indignant arrogance.

I rejected its disgusting emptiness long ago (I have NEVER cast a vote in a political election, and likely never will!)...my dear ol grandfather, who's brother Johnny was once governor of New Mexico, once lovingly referred to me as "the biggest waste of political talent the family has ever known"...I took it as quite a considerate compliment ;)

And yes, I did say "...work WITH it legitimately", Not "Within". There are many viable approaches to do so without taking to the streets in a motley gang of lawlessness and rash disrespect for the people directly and negatively affected by such canine antics.

We unfortunately have to work with the Sh!tstem, unless you are prepared for an outright insurgence that you'd better be able to win ;)

Anyway, thanks for the genuine apology, but we were always good brother \m/

Cheers Bud :)

# Jan 6, 2012 @ 7:31 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. deathbringer writes:

Yeah, I don't know if "seeks donations" is the best way to phrase it and is seeming to be the focus of a lot of comments. Crowdfunding is getting more common in the DIY/Indie era and we'll have some articles on it shortly. Obscura also used kickstarter to fund their recent demos project and I've seen labels using crowdfunding as well.

# Jan 6, 2012 @ 10:08 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. sonictherapy writes:

In a way, this reminds me of that Kiva website: http://www.kiva.org/

# Jan 6, 2012 @ 10:31 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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25. OverkillExposure writes:

Just to weigh in - while I'll refrain from taking any more sides, I do support the band in what they're doing, and my phrasing in the title held no negative connotations. The semantic distinction was perhaps an oversight on my part, and apologies for the unnecessary fecal storm this stirred up over relatively little.

# Jan 7, 2012 @ 11:04 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address

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