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Ash From Sumerian Records Comments On Century Media/Metalsucks Spotify Battle

It was announced earlier this month that Century Media Records and its associated labels InsideOutMusic, Superballmusic and People Like You have completely pulled out of the Spotify website. Since that announcement, a series of back and forth articles between Metalsucks.net and Century Media have gone online (you can check out the first one here).

Other musicians and record industry members have given their own thoughts on the situation, such as Borknagar's Jens F. Ryland. Ash Avildsen of Sumerian Records has now also thrown his hat into the ring to discuss the decision and Metalsuck's coverage of the event. An excerpt from what Ash had to say follows:

"A lot of people have been asking me about my thoughts on the recent MetalSucks vs Century Media drama in regards to Spotify, the modern day way to run a record label and the livelihood of artists.

"First off - I believe all music should be able to be heard for free. This is why every song on Sumerian can be streamed on our YouTube channel, for free. However I don't agree with the popular modern trend of just conditioning humans to always go for the most convenient, quick and lazy way possible to do anything and everything. This happens regardless of the consequences on our culture, the consequences on the quality of the activity, the experience or the product, or the consequences on community and the negative impacts made on the equanimity of society.

"Recently he [Vince Neilstein of Metalsucks] has been telling Century Media, along with everyone else who looks at his site, that record labels shouldn't bother to sell recorded music, that the concept of paying to have albums recorded and people buying these albums is a dead thing of the past and that the only real way to survive is for record labels to become management companies for bands. He also said that almost none of these bands can actually live off their music anyway. Hmm, that's an interesting business model. The bands can't live off their music but maybe other people can?

"So to end this first episodeā€¦ When I listen to music on my computer, I do it with headphones or external speakers. I like to listen to my favorite songs on CD or with ripped WAV files. Why? WAV Files and CDs sound better than MP3s and sound significantly better than streaming music on the internet. I refuse to sacrifice the quality of my music experience for the sake of convenience and laziness. I stream music all the time if I'm checking out a new band or a song I haven't heard before, or casually listening to different artists. I love streaming when I want to listen to the radio, whether it's Pandora, KROQ, or my own personal Spotify playlist. If I don't really like something I won't buy it. Obviously if I can't afford to purchase it then I won't buy it eitherā€¦ but if it's something I really enjoy? I want to own it. I want to own the best version of it and I want to know my support mattered.

"Added: MetalSucks has plenty of cool content, reviews, interviews and fun articles. They just need to stop preaching and pretending like they know how to run record labels. Ben 'Vince Neilstein' Umanov actually stayed at my house once. I respect the guy, just not his argument on this particular topic."

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1. goatlady writes:

Say what you like about the Spotify thing, but I think it was pretty rude of him to out Vince's "real" name.

# Aug 27, 2011 @ 5:11 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. R10 writes:

Probably pretty pissy on his part,but i agree with all of the Sumerian prez's points! I love MS for its humour,but the holier than thou preaching from Mr. Rosenjburg and Neilstein i could do without! These guys were sucking God Forbids and Killswitch's c***s 5 years ago,now they ride trendy beardo metal d***. All those shows they see,they see for nothing. I can understand thier point,free tunes,shows,full of win! Bite the hand that feeds! Love Sarge D's trolling and Corey Mitchells column;Vince and Axl,nah!

# Aug 27, 2011 @ 5:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. Greyback writes:

Only level-headed guy in this thing. You can't just totally expect record labels to do nothing but just manage bands, although it can be argued they've sure ruined quite a few of them. lol. Anyway, his point about not sacrificing quality is a good one. Music should be enjoyed at the highest fadelity without artifacts. However, FLAC is the solution to your problem buddy, not huge .WAV files.

# Aug 28, 2011 @ 11:44 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address

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