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Winter's Dawn Drummer Amnon Defends Christian Black Metal
Expanding on our recent Unearthing the Metal Underground column on Christan "unblack" metal, Metalunderground has also posted an editorial on the role of religion in black metal. While researching various unblack metal bands for the article, I spoke with several metal bands from both sides of the religious divide to get their input. As a teaser for the editorial, we've posted the full answers to the questionnaire I sent to each band.
After first talking with the band Frames, which took the anti-religious stance, I next corresponded with drummer Amnon of U.K. based Christian black metal act Winter's Dawn. Amnon explained his thoughts on the term "unblack" metal and how he sees it as a style of music that can be separated from its original message.
xFiruath: What does black metal or extreme metal personally mean to you, either as a musical style or a philosophy?
Amnon: Black metal for me is about passion, atmosphere, and feeling.
xFiruath: Do you personally see a distinction between unblack metal bands and black metal bands? That is to say, do you think bands with religious members and religious lyrics should be categorized differently?
Amnon: This is a controversial area, some say that Christian black metal bands must be called something else i.e. “unblack” because a black metal band must have a certain type of lyrics or spirit. I tend to dislike the term unblack myself and prefer to say Christian black metal, where “Christian” is the message/lyrics and “black metal" is the musical style.
xFiruath: There’s no question that black metal saw its major awakening with Norwegian bands that either had anti-religious sentiments or had members who were themselves involved in anti-religious activities. Do you think that black metal can be separated from its beginnings without becoming something else entirely?
Amnon: For me personally, black metal is a style of music, just the same as rock is a style of music. I know black metal elitists may disagree with me here and say that the music and the message are tied together too closely to be separate, but I don't mind adhering to my own interpretation.
xFiruath: How do lyrics influence your decision to listen to a band? If you heard an amazing black metal band you loved, but later discovered the lyrics were anti-Christian, would you continue listening to them?
Amnon: The lyrics of band have a big influence regarding whether I will listen or not. Being a Christian I don't want to listen to songs that are blasphemous towards the God I worship. Some say, they are just listening to enjoy the music alone, but I prefer to embrace a band completely, including the message they present.
xFiruath: How would you feel about listening to a pro-Muslim black metal band with all Islamic members (or a pro-Jewish black metal band, or pro-Scientologist black metal band, or pro-Mormon black metal band, or so on…)?
Amnon: It would depend on the lyrical content, again I wouldn't listen if they were blasphemous etc.
xFiruath: What would your response be to a Christian who prayed on the subject and found they had a sincere conviction that black metal was an absolutely evil tool of the devil?
Amnon: I would respect their opinion and conviction.
xFiruath: After listening to a lot of Christian rock and metal bands, I’ve found they tend to segregate out based on lyrical content. How do you feel about Christian unblack metal bands using war and gore themed lyrics, such as about battles between angels and demons? How about lyrics dealing with the times God kills people (or commands others to kill people) during the Bible? Do you think unblack metal bands should only have positive and uplifting lyrics?
Amnon: I don't have a problem with lyrics that are biblically based.
xFiruath: What Christian bands do you personally listen to, metal or otherwise?
Mostly black metal bands: Antestor, Crimson Moonlight, Sanctifica, Horde, Frosthardr, Drottnar, etc.
xFiruath: What specifically in your life led you to either believe or disbelieve in ideas like God and the supernatural?
Amnon: I first believed in God after finding the Bible compelling and since then my faith in God and the Bible are based on personal experience of seeing God at work in my life.
xFiruath: What’s going on with your band these days?
Amnon: Winter's Dawn are currently recording songs for our 2nd full-length album that should be out Winter 2011, updates will be posted on our myspace here.
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I have listend to some christian metal even though i disagree with its lyrics or message. This guy says he wont listen to bands that have lyrics he disagrees with so i discredit him. Hearing an islamic metal band would be interesting but my strong dislike of thier beliefs would make it difficult
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I'm a little late here, but I agree. My experience with the Abrahamic faiths is that Islam views Christianity as polytheistic because of the trinity and the belief that JC was a living incarnate of god, propping their selves up as the one and only true monotheistic Abrahamic faith. For some reason, the similar "god" of the Abrahamic faith doesn't factor in, rather that JC/trinity are the gods of the Christians, which is impossible for a monotheist, and the argument goes on.
I hate to pigeon hole, but the guy interviewed above exhibits your stereotypical stubborn "I'm a convicted Christian" attitude. They are strongly convicted in their beliefs, yet won't dare listen to anything that might go against them.
In all facets of life there is a positive and a negative. Without one you can't have the other. If you convict yourself to one side of an argument without ever allowing yourself to hear what the other side has to say, you're just as bad as any so-called "blasphemers".
It's like what Oz is saying. These religions all reference the same God yet they all seem to refuse to accept that fact. They just plain don't want to hear it. It's your classic "I'm right, you're wrong. LALALALALALALA" ears-plugged, playground attitude.
Believe what you want to believe, I don't care either way, but at least have the balls to listen to what others have to say before you say "Nah, I'll stick to what I already believe, thanks."
Think of the things you believe in like bricks and what you don't believe as the mortar. Bricks without mortar will just fall down if they are disturbed. However, slap a little mortar between those bricks and you have yourself a solid, sturdy wall of belief. Aren't metaphors fun? :P
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I like how he assumed a pro-Muslim band would be blasphemous, despite Muslims and Christians believing in the same deity.