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Disturbed Cancels Upcoming Tour Dates Due To Illness

Chicago based hard rock outfit Disturbed has announced that they have been forced to cancel their forthcoming tour dates because lead vocalist David Draiman has been diagnosed with a serious throat condition. The illness is not suspected to be permanent but Draiman must stop performing for at least four weeks in order for it to heal. Refunds are available at point of purchase.

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1. Rod Farva writes:

..again with the throat. Hope they're able to hit up europe. If there were a god, i'd say he's unjust.

# Oct 8, 2010 @ 5:46 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. Agmkreptile writes:

^^^^^
that would depend on whether you like Disturbed or not...

# Oct 8, 2010 @ 5:47 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. yo writes:

You focker get up come on get down with the sickness

# Oct 8, 2010 @ 6:01 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. brandedcfh420 writes:

GOOD, Karama is kicking his a$$ for talking sh** on Lemmy!!!

# Oct 8, 2010 @ 6:04 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. MetalByNumbers writes:

Disturd.

# Oct 8, 2010 @ 6:15 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. systemsdown writes:

I think this is the first time I've ever been in 100% agreement with Branded. He went off about Jeff Hanneman

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7. systemsdown writes:

*too

# Oct 8, 2010 @ 7:04 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. darpa writes:

WHAT?! Lemmy and Jeff Hanneman?! What the hell did this Hot Topic regular say about them?!

# Oct 8, 2010 @ 10:13 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. GeorgeT writes:

Citing fact and voicing your opinion based on that fact is not "talking sh**". David was well within his right in regards to what he said about Lemmy Kilmister and Jeff Hanneman. Quoted: Draiman: “I don’t give a f*** who you are. If you’re going to brandish Nazi symbolism, I’m going to have a problem with you because I don’t understand how anybody could think it’s OK to wear something on their body that symbolizes the annihilation and genocide of my people. I’m not OK with that and there is no excuse and there is no explanation.” Couldn't have said it better myself. Read the following and see for yourself: http://www.metalsucks.net/2010/09/20/regarding-david-draiman-lemmy-slayer-the-jews-and-the-nazis/

# Oct 9, 2010 @ 1:24 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. Diamond Oz writes:

He was saying he was offended that they collect Nazi memorobilia and they should be ashamed etc.

# Oct 9, 2010 @ 7:01 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. batkinson001 writes:

I hope he recovers properly this time... There are few bands I want to see live, Disturbed is one of them.

# Oct 9, 2010 @ 7:36 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. WOLF7 writes:

I wouldn't be ashamed to collect Nazi memorabilia. I'd be ashamed to collect Disturbed albums.

# Oct 9, 2010 @ 8:21 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. brandedcfh420 writes:

but its ok for the jews to commit genocide against the palestenians george?!?!

he can be offended all he wants, collecting nazi memorabilia will not stop. claim w/e you want, draiman is a whiny a$$ b!tch who fronts a mediocre band and has to use his hate to get the spotlight....waaaaaaaaaaaa fkn waaaaaaaaaaaa draiman!!

f*** draiman, and the facist jewish system in israel!!

# Oct 9, 2010 @ 9:42 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. Diamond Oz writes:

I have albums and some Nazi memorobilia. I'm sure that would blow Draiman's mind.

# Oct 9, 2010 @ 9:42 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. Diamond Oz writes:

*Disturbed albums that should say.

# Oct 9, 2010 @ 9:43 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. MetalByNumbers writes:

I miss the people who would write things like "If you don't like disturbed, why are you posting here??!"
ahhh..

# Oct 9, 2010 @ 11:41 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. yeabuddy writes:

the reason people collect Nazi memorabilia is because its simply easier to come across than Jewish peoples ashes.....

# Oct 9, 2010 @ 12:00 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. brandedcfh420 writes:

if they should be ashamed of collecting nazi memorabilia, then he should come out say how ashamed he is for the jews persecuting the palestenians!! or is it ok for jews to do w/e they want to others and claim how the rest of the world are beneath them?!?!

# Oct 9, 2010 @ 12:14 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. b.bristowe writes:

Probably wanted some turkey.

# Oct 9, 2010 @ 1:12 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. MetalByNumbers writes:

as insensitive as post 17 was..i lol'd pretty damn hard. that was f***ed up hahaha

np: The Acacia Strain- Skynet

# Oct 9, 2010 @ 4:50 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. Acid/Rain writes:

Dammit this sucks! I was planning on seeing them Oct. 27th, guess I gotta find something else to do

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22. ripdimebag27 writes:

they spent so much time on uproar, something was gonna happen to the guy with his past throat sh**, bummer for all the fans. shoulda gone to uproar.

# Oct 10, 2010 @ 12:55 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. Lockedin851 writes:

Seriously people? David is jewish there i said it but that doesnt give u people the right to slander him because he was voicing his thoughts and feelings. Now this topic is about david and his throat f**kin up. Now i hate nazis and i hate racism of any kind. David is one of the best vocalest of our time and i hope his throat gets better. So if you dont like Disturbed then gtfo and send ur bs to somewhere else. DISTURBED FOR LIFE.

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24. WOLF7 writes:

I don't see any issue at all with anyone collecting Nazi stuff. 99% of the time it's got nothing to do with how the person in question feels about Nazism. Surely David knews he was going to get some stick for the things he said towards Hannemann and Lemmy.
I wouldn't mind collecting medals from the WWII myself, just cannot afford it. Yet.

If we really go into the topic, it's pretty hypocritical to make statements on jewish people, making them to somehow sound innocent and "the victims" while looking at what is actually happening in Israel on daily basis.
Essentially: Slaughtering Palestinians = good/allowed. Slaughtering Jewish people = bad. Isn't that pretty much how it goes?

As for Disturbed, I don't mind them. I don't listen to them but they're a pro band making the music they wanna make. And they're good at what they do. Just not my thing. Not too excited about David's vocals or those monkey noises he makes (I f***ing hate when he does those!) but Donegan is really a great guitarist and has some pretty awesome riffs combined with a great sound.

# Oct 10, 2010 @ 5:03 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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25. brandedcfh420 writes:

post 23 got his geart hurt because some1 said something about his dream husband!!!! waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa,

fk the jewish system of "hate everyone but the jews"! the jewish system is about "killing everyone that is not jewish", just as islam is about "killing everyone that is not muslim"!! how about jewish and islam worlds just die already! your 2 systems are nothing but hate inspired facism! kill the jewish system and the muslim system, and nuke the christian faith as well!!!

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26. brandedcfh420 writes:

oops, geart = heart

# Oct 10, 2010 @ 11:01 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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27. EsotericSurgery writes:

Branded I think you're buying into mainstream media a little too much. Turn off FOX/CNN. It doesn't get more ignorant than to paint all Jews/Muslims/Christians with the same brush. There are extremist sects of each branch of religion...sure. Does that mean we "kill them all" or that ALL of them wish death upon everyone unlike their own faith? Give me a break dude. If you look at the core of every religion they're all saying the same thing (the scriptures not the dumbass people who've mis-interpreted the message). Each culture was given an enlightened teacher to bring in the universal truth to their people. They weren't gods among men...they were men (and women) who were able to fully open their spiritual gateway (third eye) and tap into the creator energy. God is consciousness...we're all god collectively. We're all one people. Patriotism is equally as evil as religion. They've made you believe that America or whichever nation is somehow better than others or somehow values life more than others. It's a bullsh!t scheme to further divide people, the same reason why corrupt men purposely mis-interpreted and skewed the original texts (of most religions...save Buddhism and Hiduism which are actually the closest to the truth...they wear a bindi to represent their third eye or spiritual gateway...and look at king tut...that serpent coming out of his forehead is the Kundalini serpent...which represents the third eye being open) to divide/enslave man.

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28. brandedcfh420 writes:

i mentioned those 3 religions because those 3 have cause the most destructive evil upon mankind throughout history. you can say im buying into mainstream media if you want. i dont watch fox or cnn.

Its not patriotism for me, its a matter of survival. the rest of the world wants to come in and wipe out the people who are proud to be american and who love america. we are supposed to bow down, and change our beliefs because the rest of the world isnt in the same thought process. WELL FU(K THEM AND ANYONE WHO FEELS THE SAME WAY! im white, and whites in america are being persecuted for being white. go ahead and laugh, call me racist, but if you look around, whites are being run out of everything. and now, even the great barack hitler himself has shown he could care less about what is being done. he didnt come out and rip the black panthers a new a$$hole for voter intimidation in philly! if that were skinheads he would be all over it, claiming how racist they are, and allowing jesse jackson and al sharpton hold massive black power rallies and have the taxpayer pick up the tab!

NUKE WASHINGTON DC!!

back to the topic. fu(k draiman and his whiny a$$ jewish propaganda. im sure he feels so bad for the palestinians and their plight with the neo-nazi jewish system in Israel!

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29. EsotericSurgery writes:

Well, the one thing I agree with you on is that we need to evolve out of the phase of government and move to self-governance...small communities run themselves no more federal control. This whole idea that we're going to butcher who's in power and replace him with a seemingly better candidate is ludicrous and has gone on far too long. ALL politicians have to be carefully groomed and approved of by the men behind the curtains (if you're not aware of who they are by now I'm not even going to waste my time) before they're even allowed to run. The deck is rigged my friend...it's time to wake up.

As for what you said about "bowing down" that is totally not what I'm saying. What I am saying, however, is that hatred/killing is not the way to solve hatred/killing. It's one thing to stand up for who you are and stand up for your fellow man (whom I would hope you consider ALL races and creeds a part of) but it's a totally different story to rant like a crazed racist. IMO, everyone should practice peaceful non-compliance to the system. Become self sufficient...grow organic food...show love. It goes a long way...

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30. EsotericSurgery writes:

Sorry DB, shouldn't turn this thread into something it isn't. My bad.

On topic, whoever said Draiman was one of the best vocalists of our time... thanks for laugh. I LOL'd. I do like Disturbed...but he's certainly nothing special IMO.

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31. KORNDOGG writes:

I would agree with Branded on the fact that evryone does want us to bow down. @ EsotericSurgery- If we are talking about Irag and afganastan, or terrorism in general, we have to kill. Its kill or be killed. They dont like us and never will. So we have to fight. There will never be peace as long as there is terrorism and extremists in religion, who believe they are right and everyone else is wrong. Im all about peace, but it will never happen. So its best to have peace in your own life, and not worry about what you cannot control.

On topic, I like disturbed, always have. They are not that good live in my opinion, but I have enjoyed all of their albums so far!

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32. brandedcfh420 writes:

ty KORNDOGG!!

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33. Lockedin851 writes:

I hate racism and prejudice of all kinds. I dont believe that you should single out any religion for it. Every religion has some flaws but does that make it any more right to judge before knowing? And brand, dude calm down why so serious all i posted was my views on this topic and here u ready to go off on a rant because i dont think like u. Of course im not because im tolerate of all religions and to wolf7 i agree i myself is a world war buff and i would love to collect stuff as well and thats fine but not because i love nazis or is obsessed with them. Im glad Hilter is gone because what he did was wrong, singling out a religion and killin them off and to the jewish and palestilen thing i do think thats wrong as well this is 2010 goin on 2011 we should be more accepttin on races and religion, but i guess ignorance will always live on.

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34. brandedcfh420 writes:

as long as religous humans are in control of things, it will turn out the way its does. wipe religion off the planet and humans can become a whole race and not fractured due to idealogies that clash!

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35. KORNDOGG writes:

Organized religion can work as long as its not extreme. I consider myself spiritual, or god fearing in a way. I dont follow everything that the bible says, but I believe humans in general need some sort of hope or reason for being. So believing in god will never fade. But know one knows whats true and or false, not churchs, scientists, or any extreme religion. There is deffinetly a higher power or reason for being in my opinion. What that is, who knows.

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36. EsotericSurgery writes:

Just so you guys know...you're mis-informed. Tim Osman was a CIA agent who was extensively trained and went into the Middle East to start a CIA lead and controlled "terrorist" group called the Taliban. You guessed it, Osama Bin Laden wasn't his real identity. He died in 2001 from cancer. 99% of "terrorist" attacks are orchestrated at the highest levels of government/secret agencies...mostly US but there are also many others involved. The war on terror was started with the false flag on 9/11. Fear is used to keep people subservient and give up their rights (patriot act anyone?). There is no threat to American soil from "terrorist" groups. 9/11 was allowed to happen, all the early warning defences were ordered to stand down (same thing happened at Pearl Harbor to get USA into WW2). Don't believe me? Operation Dark Heart was released and blew the whole thing wide open...and the US Department of Defense bought out every single copy of the book under the justification that it "gave out military secrets" which it did indeed and then some.

"Operation Dark Heart is a 2010 memoir by U.S. Army intelligence officer Lt. Col Anthony Shaffer notable for the lengths the U.S. Defense Department went in an attempt to censor information revealed within, after the book had already been distributed free of redactions."

The only terrorist group you should be fearing is the global cabal masquerading as the US government. John F Kennedy spoke out clearly warning against this exact cabal. He didn't do what they wanted him to do...and the CIA shot him dead. You're a goddamned fool if you honestly believe it was Lee Harvey Oswald.

As for kill or be killed... hmmm so if Iraq was powerful enough to do what we're (US/Canada/others) doing...would we not fight back? Sure we would. And why is that? WE'RE IN THEIR LAND! It's their home!!! Of course they're going to hate us and want us gone/dead. We created a giant lie and blamed an entire race/religion of people (Islam) for all of the worlds "terrorism." Uh yeah, I think I'd be p***ed off too! They use patriotism/fear to mobilize the populace to fight their wars for them. My heart truly goes out to all of those who are/have lost loved ones due to these bogus wars. That's why I do support the troops...they've got no idea what they've done or started or who they're really fighting for. They believe they're fighting for a just cause and it's a very tough thing to watch.

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37. KORNDOGG writes:

^ Now I know Ive heard it all! Sorry man, but you need to lay off the drugs. All you are is another conspiracy believing moron. 9/11 was not a consiracy or allowd to happen. Your one of these a$$holes that live in the US but constantly bash the US? LOL, we did not need to let pearl harber happen, to join WW2. You need to follow your history a little better. I believe the government is corrupt, but your theories are wrong buddy. But then again, when you believe all this bull sh**, there is no talking to someone who believs in conspiracies. Just anti-government, united states bashing pisses me off!! You live in one of the best countries, get your head out of your ass, and stop thinking every one is out to get you!

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38. jessrock writes:

After reading this absolute ignorance, I couldn't help but to laugh. First the Jews are not trying to destroy the Palestinians. They have requested Peace a number of times. Yet they (Palestine) continue to seek war with Israel trying to take the land that is rightfully theirs. There are radicals in every religion, more so in Christian than any other! Any sort of collection of anything Nazi symbolizes hate. Why would anyone want to breed hate like that? Second, if you don’t like either the band or the man then fine, but don’t share your ignorance and hate with those that do! Dave Draiman is an incredibly intelligent, well educated, man who happens to be Jewish. He has the right to speak his mind about hate against his people. Oh and one more thing, do one of you have the intellect to post something meaningful without a profanity laced tirade? Individuals like brandedcfh420 obviously and has nothing better to do with his day then spread hate.

# Oct 11, 2010 @ 9:36 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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39. brandedcfh420 writes:

sure jess! say what you will, but the jews are killing off paleastinians like they are ants! say what you will about me, but im not the one sucking the a$$ of the hateful jews! I speak out against them!

fu(k draiman and his jewish mentality! he wants to show how someone else is ignorant while he professes his jewish love for his people. he is just another whiny jew spewing forth facist nazi jew idealogies! plain and simple! HEY DRAIMAN, SPEAK OUT AGAINST THE JEWISH GENOCIDE OF THE PALESTINIANS, OR ARE YOU TOO JEWISH TO DO THAT! FKN CVNT! typical facist jew for ya!

jess, if you choose to ignore the truth about israel and the jewish nazi govt there, then im sure you will be glad to go over there and stand with the palestinians! THE JEWS ARE KILLING ANYONE WHO STANDS WITH THEM (PALESTINIANS), OR HAS THAT FACT PASSED YOUR LITTLE KIDDIE MIND RIGHT ON BY?! AS ALWAYS, ITS FUNNY HOW THE PEOPLE WHO SPEAK OUT AGAINST THE FACIST JEWISH SYSTEM ARE THE IGNORANT RACIST!! GO AHEAD PEOPLE, CLAIM THAT IM RACIST! LET THE FACIST ZIONIST CONTROL YOU AND YOUR THOUGHTS! SHEEPLE FOR THE SLAUGHTER!

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40. EsotericSurgery writes:

#37, That was pretty cute I must say. If you had any brains in your head at all you would see my profile says I'm from Canada...not the US. I don't take pride in being Canadian just like wouldn't take pride in being American or any other nationality. As I stated above, they use patriotism to divide just like religion. I need to follow history better? lol Dude the US School system is p!ss poor...the history they teach in school (and the same thing they taught us up in Canada too) is wrong. It's not the truth. You can choose to be an ostrich and keep your head in the sand if you choose to, doesn't bother me any. So Lt. Colonel Shaffer (and MANY others...I can show you many youtube videos of soldiers who are no long afraid of speaking out) is a conspiracy theorist??? LOL Some patriot you are. He fought just like all of the other troops over there are right now. Yep, he jsut made it all up and it was full of lies but the Department of defense bought every copy of his book (even though it was a conspiracy right?) just to make him famous?? Who needs to lay off the drugs???

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41. EsotericSurgery writes:

Branded, your latest comments don't paint you as a racist. Infact, you're 100% correct. Israel is slaughtering innocent people just like the "good guys" are slaughtering and raping innocent people in Iraq/Afghanistan. Israel and the US are very closely allied, they're one and the same behind the scenes. However, the global cabal or "NWO" or "Illuminati" as some call them is NOT just Zionist bankers. That's just simply not true. They are indeed a part of it, but they're not all of it.

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42. brandedcfh420 writes:

ES: Its just a shame that when we try to tell the sheeple about it, we are branded as crackpots and racists.

Korndogg: He is correct about how history has been taught to us in american schools.

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43. EsotericSurgery writes:

Branded: "The truth passes through three phases: first it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, finally it is accepted as self-evident." - Arthur Schopenhauer

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44. brandedcfh420 writes:

INDEED it does!!

The american govt learned from the nazis exactly how to turn their people into braindead sheeple who follow the great leader to their graves and the ones who led them to death get away everytime!!

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Yes sir, correct again. Where did all the high ranking Nazi's and Nazi scientists go after the empire crumbled? Oh...whoops that's right...into the goddamned US of A. Poor old Einstein was one of them (he jumped ship long before the end of the war mind you). He thought he was doing the right thing by alerting Eisenhower that Germany was in an accelerated race to develop their first atomic bomb. If Eisenhower wasn't replaced by Roosevelt (who personally ordered the stand down at Pearl Harbour) it might have been a good thing. If you haven't already, check out Eisenhower's AND JFK's farewall state of the union addresses. They both warned about the same dark cabal seizing control through debt slavery (The Federal Reserve banking system) and the military industrial complex.

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ES-you are correct on how they teach history in schools, in America and Canada. Ive been out of school for 13 years! So in no way is my history knowledge or research do to anything I was taught 13 years ago! So thats irrelevent. Your free to believe what you want. There were many mistakes made in Pearl Harbor and 9/11. But neither was a conspiracy. I do believe there is alot we dont know about the JFK assination. It wasnt one shooter. As corrupt as most nations are, not everything has some giant secret behind it. I believe your a little paranoid, and I am drug free by the way! But I bet your not. Like I said, I hate all these people that bash USA but live here, you do not. So that statement doesnt include you. I would love for those people to go live in a third world country for a bit, then look at how good they had it. There is alot we dont know with religion and government. The american government could f*** up a wet dream, so you truly think they are capable of 9/11? And still be a secret? Its hard enough for 2 people to keep a secret, let alone the whole government. I guess Ill keep my head out of the sand with all the other sane people

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47. brandedcfh420 writes:

""The american government could f*** up a wet dream, so you truly think they are capable of 9/11? And still be a secret?""

Its no longer secret, the evidence points directly to the govt helping fund and train the pilots of 9-11 here in america, protected them, and made sure that they got the job done. They admitted to "PULLING" building 7. it takes weeks to prep a building for demolition, yet it was prepped in a matter of hours??!! sure!!

im not goin against ya KD, but its out in the open!!!

# Oct 11, 2010 @ 4:45 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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48. KORNDOGG writes:

^ I understand what ur sayn, there are many theories. I dont believe we would go through all that just to go to war. The government can go to war when it pleases, as we always do when we stick our nose in others business. Its a fact that the terrorists want us dead, with planes, bombings, whatever it takes. I believe the only thing we did wrong was let our guard down. Anyone can train to be a pilot, and fly a plane! I think people hated bush soooo bad they will make up conspiracy theories. But I guess none of us know for sure. Pearl harbor was not a conspiracy, we would not have blown up most of our fleet, planes, and other military equip. just to jump in WW2. We barely recovered from that in the time needed to go to war. My opinion tho

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49. Cynic writes:

*Walks into this thread*
*Turns 180 and walks out*

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50. KORNDOGG writes:

^ Lol

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51. The_Passenger writes:

@EsotericSurgery i Believe you man i know where your coming from and what your saying...

# Oct 11, 2010 @ 10:29 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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52. RTB writes:

Haha cynic!
No offense to my metal brothers here but a 9/11 conspiracy to me is ludicrous. .valid points made but not buying it one bit. ..the bush ties to the bin laden family is about as far as I go...unless there is concrete evidence that points to it, I just can't believe that

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53. brandedcfh420 writes:

as for perl harbor, the american people did not want to go to war, yet the US govt needed a reason to get into it! let the fleet get bombed and the americans will roll out in force to fight! the american opinion before the attack was NO WAR for months, but the fleet had been told to stand down numerous times leading up to the attack! its documented yet some people refuse to beleive that the evil us govt could do that! WAKE UP!!!!

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54. EsotericSurgery writes:

I'm done arguing and defending myself. Hopefully I've inspired at least ONE person to look further into the matter and consider the evidence rather than just shoot it down because you refuse to believe it could be true. Regarding 9/11 and everything else in the world today...those who know...know. Those who don't know...don't want to know. You know? :/

Branded: Correct again sir :p

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55. big-d writes:

branded go f*** yourself f***in racist piece of sh*t. i really hope you die a painful death and burn in hell eternaly. i really really hate u. shut the f*** up already with your stupidity, ranting and talking out of your a$$

# Oct 12, 2010 @ 2:31 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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56. brandedcfh420 writes:

big-d, did mommy stop you from breast feeding and now you are all mad that you cant suckle her anymore?!

what makes me racist for telling the truth? waaaa fkn waaa for you! im still screaming fu(k draiman and the facist jewish sytem!

# Oct 12, 2010 @ 9:53 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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57. MetalByNumbers writes:

How did the conversation turn from Draiman sucking fat chodes to religion? o.O the internet is such a strange place

# Oct 12, 2010 @ 10:23 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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58. Wat writes:

Wtf am i reading. I think you guys are a bit paranoid.

# Oct 12, 2010 @ 1:41 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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59. Wat writes:

I actually have a huge headache from reading your guys's BS. I belive in some JFK conspiracies, but the rest seems a little to ridiculous to me. Fun to read about in a not-so-hateful way though.

# Oct 12, 2010 @ 1:45 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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60. KORNDOGG writes:

Nothing wrong with a good debate!

# Oct 12, 2010 @ 3:20 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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61. WOLF7 writes:

Due to a busy week I wasn't able to join this one earlier. Pity.

Branded, I agree with you on lots of issues... but, man........

" "islam is about "killing everyone that is not muslim"!! "

Man, don't generalize! I've come across with quite a few Muslims (mainly Pakistanis, Indian, Iranian and Turkish people) and every time Bin Laden or Al-queda has come up, they've all stated being 100% against "lunatics" like that. The muslims I've come across with have said all the muslim terrorism and especially 9/11 was the worst thing that could have ever happened to them on a private level, their personal lives and to their religion.


"the rest of the world wants to come in and wipe out the people who are proud to be american and who love america. we are supposed to bow down, and change our beliefs because the rest of the world isnt in the same thought process."

Come on... that's just SLIGHTLY extreme, Branded.

Ok fair enough; there are people who Do want to wipe out America and the Americans. BUT, these "people" are the ones who'd happily wipe out EVERYBODY in the western world.

Let's put this in facts, shall we:

- There are close to 7 billion people on our well polluted planet
- Population of USA is slightly over 300 million
- Approximately 1.27 billion muslims
- Al Queda has (rumoured) around 800 members
- other extreme muslim groups have some 8000 members, all together (estimation)

So, 7billion people. 300million americans, 1.27billion muslims, and out of THAT number maybe 10000 psychos who pretty much are the "neo nazis" of the muslims. That's the best description I think anyone could give.

So, Branded mate, don't generalize.
Sure, lots of sick people and lots of a$$holes out there, but there's lots of good people out there as well.

And "the scumbags will lose". That's my motto ;)

# Oct 15, 2010 @ 1:00 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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62. brandedcfh420 writes:

Im generalizing, i going with what i see on a daily basis in life, around the world and where i live!

# Oct 15, 2010 @ 1:30 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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63. WOLF7 writes:

Oh well. I tried. Pretty hard, I might add.

# Oct 15, 2010 @ 1:38 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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64. DisturbedA7X666 writes:

Okay the Muslims. They're religion states that the people in the west are the infidel. That means that we don't believe in their God and we are like the heretics of the world. The Muslim want to convert as many of us as possible, that is part of the religion, look it up. If we don't convert then we are a liability in their eyes, yes that's true to the religion. So liabilities must be removed. That is where Al' Queda comes in ( however the f**k it's spelled ). They are an extremist part of the religion. They are doing what they think is right. Okay so basically we are bad they don't like us and they think we should die.

Oh, and if you don't f**kn like Disturbed, then stay off their pages, stay off their comments, and keep your f**kin thought to you self because no one wants to hear your sh**. And I bid you good day.

# Oct 15, 2010 @ 6:29 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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65. DisturbedA7X666 writes:

Comment #49, ahahahahaha. hysterical. I give you a knuckle-bump good sir

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66. Blindgreed1 writes:

Has anyone here ever tried a Lion Bar? They're quite tasty.

# Oct 15, 2010 @ 6:45 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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67. WOLF7 writes:

I'm actually sad that you guys have been brainwashed by the media to believe all muslims are bad when it couldn't be further from the truth.
Truly sad.

I don't care what the coran says, I don't care what bible says. I know both of the books make statements in the direction "this is the only right way to live" etc but I'm not buying into that, and the same goes for a lot of people regardless of their religion.

# Oct 16, 2010 @ 6:30 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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68. brandedcfh420 writes:

well, they look at all americans as trash, and feel that america should be wiped off the earth, so fk them and game on! they come to america and begin talking sh!t and then claiming to love this country. IF THATS TRUE, WHY COME HERE TO HATE IT, USE UP THE WELFARE SYSTEM, AND THEN SPEW FORTH ALL THE HATRED OF YOUR FACIST SATANIC BELIEFS?! O wait, you can do that in america, as long as you are not american!

Its always the americans looked at as the bad ones, when al we are doing is responding to the worlds hatred of us! so if it bothers you for americans to say the same thing that is said to us, then boo hoo!!! America is under attack from the facist idelists who want to slughter americans, but we are wrong for standing up for ourselves!

FU(K YOU b****ES WHO WANT TO CALL US RACIST REDNECKS FOR LOOKING AT YOUR 3RD WORLD TOILET LIVES AND COUNTRIES AND NOT CARING ABOUT YOUR PROBLEMS, BECAUSE WE HAVE OUR OWN PROBLEMS TO DEAL WITH!! But as always, if americans do not help some trashy 3rd world toilet out then we are the evil, bad, racist ones! Dont look at "their" govt and how their govt brought their contry to the toilet it is, just as our govt is doing it here in america! Ignore the fact that their govts are progamming them to hate us, to want to kill us, to teach them to kill anyone who doesnt convert to their satanic order! OPEN YOUR EYES ! Its happening all over the world now! Islam is a disease that needs to be wiped out, just like christianity!! AND IF YOU HATE ME FOR THIS POST, I DONT CARE! IM NOT SCARED TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST THE FASCIST PIGS IN THIS WORLD!

,l,, (**) ,,l,

# Oct 16, 2010 @ 6:44 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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69. WOLF7 writes:

fair enough, Branded.

I just don't want to see all Muslim people labelled as being bad, as speaking from my own experience, a modern day muslim is no different from any of us. You wouldn't know they were muslims if religion doesn't come up. They don't want any harm to anybody. It's the lunatic extremists that are the serious problem.

Let me just be clear that I'm by no means defending any lunatics out there. All the Bin Ladens and Al Queda scum should be shot. Period.

I just hate the generalization on muslims. It's pretty much like saying that all Irish people want to kill all protestants cos of an organization called IRA.

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70. brandedcfh420 writes:

Back to the topic:

Hopefully this takes disturbed out of the picture for a loooooooooooooooooooong time!!

# Oct 16, 2010 @ 7:19 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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71. MetalByNumbers writes:

"Oh, and if you don't f**kn like Disturbed, then stay off their pages, stay off their comments, and keep your f**kin thought to you self because no one wants to hear your sh**. And I bid you good day."

And you can bite my d***, c***. Because both bands that comprise your namesake are complete trash. And nice 666? haha

# Oct 16, 2010 @ 11:03 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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72. RTB writes:

Greed, you members those reggie bars back in the 80s....every now and then theyll pop up at a store...
I saw disturbed live at mayhem fest a few years back and for a band that I dot dig musically I thought they were quite good.....that is all

# Oct 16, 2010 @ 12:56 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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73. WOLF7 writes:

Awesome post, MetalByNumbers! Pure gold.

Now I see how it's done...

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