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Sunday Old School: Body Count And Ice-T Versus Police, Parents And Presidents

The relationship between rap music and the world of hard rock and heavy metal has long been an interesting one. In many ways, both genres are very different and many members of each community look at the other with contempt. Whether it it be that metal fans think that rap is all about "bitches and money" or that rap fans think metal fans look stupid and every band is just screaming. However there are many others in both genres who at least respect the other, at times colloborating such as Public Enemy and Anthrax. One such member of the rap world who had a respect, admiration and love for hard rock and metal music was the legendary Ice-T. Ice-T decided to form his own rock band, Body Count with musicians he knew from school to help expand his musical palette in 1990 and debuted the band at the 1991 Lollapalooza tour, which many stated was the highlight of the tour. From there the band appeared on Ice-T's acclaimed album, "O.G. Original Gangster" and opened for Guns N' Roses before releasing their self-titled debut album in March 1992.

The band was highly controversial, not least due to the song, "Cop Killer," a song inspired by the Talking Heads track "Psycho Killer" and intended to criticise corrupt police officers in the United States. The band was boycotted by police groups as well as parents and the religious right and were even denounced by then U.S. President George H. W. Bush. "Cop Killer" wasn't the only song on the album to receive a negative reaction either. "KKK Bitch"and "Evil Dick" also gained the band notoriety for what people saw as obscene lyrics, to the point where noted actor Charlton Heston entered a Time Warner shareholders meeting and read the lyrics out, confident with a sense of unwarranted self-importance that by doing this the band would be fired from the label. Ice-T himself decided to remove the song "Cop Killer" from the album because he felt that the band should be more known for their music than controversy. The band does, however, continue to perform the song live.

Since then the band has released three more albums, 1994's "Born Dead," 1997's "Violent Demise: The Last Days" and 2006's "Murder 4 Hire." Sadly, of the original lineup, only Ice-T and lead guitarist Ernie C are still alive, with drummer Beastmaster V passing away in 1996 after a battle with leukemia, bass player Mooseman being killed in a shooting while working for Iggy Pop in 2001 and guitarist D-Roc succumbing to lymphoma in 2004. The band has been inactive for a while but recently made an apperance at the Vans Warped Tour anniversary party in Los Angeles. No word has been given on whether they will record a new album again at some point, but Body Count still holds a large cult following across the globe, particularly in Europe, and the very thought of a new tour or album is something that generates a lot of excitement... and probably some controversy for good measure.

Body Count - "There Goes The Neighbourhood"

Body Count - "KKK Bitch"

Body Count - "Born Dead"

Body Count - "I Used To Love Her"

Body Count - "Cop Killer"

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Ollie Hynes has been a writer for Metal Underground.com for four years and has been a metal fan for ten years, going so far as to travel abroad for metal shows.

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1. Eric J. Bitterman writes:

I have an original copy of this album with Cop Killer and the artwork intact.

# Mar 14, 2010 @ 12:48 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. wilco writes:

damm forgot that band

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3. Persecution Mike writes:

BORN DEAD is a great album !!!

# Mar 14, 2010 @ 5:06 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. hellrat writes:

Yeah dude, sweet

seriously, I hadn't thought of these dudes in a decent while until you made that crack a couple weeks back about how if you want bm, you'll just stick with BC

so I reconned my dusty retro collection, and its been fvcking great...reminds me of some classic times!

cool deal...BLACK METAL!!!

Long Live the SOS

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5. Spaghetti_Motel writes:

COP KILLA!!!!!!!!!

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6. Tivic writes:

The band is amazing and heavy as hell if you watch their live dvds. I have an original copy of this album with Cop Killer and the artwork intact after I found an 2nd copy for $35.00 at my local cd store.

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7. darkA.T.M writes:

where can i find these cds???

# Mar 14, 2010 @ 10:58 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. Diamond Oz writes:

I got them all off Amazon a couple of years ago. Usually find them quite cheap too. Cool to see some old BC fans on here.

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9. 6(sic)6 writes:

I have 'Born Dead' somewhere in my abyss of CDs.
I really miss BC.

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10. OlafBerzerker writes:

there goes the neighborhooooooooooooood!!!!!!!!!

# Mar 15, 2010 @ 2:19 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. Rayze writes:

Thanks a lot for this. This is why I love this site. This, and unearthing the underground are my favorite weekly reads, as they can introduce you to bands that were playing before you were born, or that are really talented but aren't exactly the face of metal.

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12. deathbringer writes:

Rayze - glad to hear it! That's one of the main reasons we put together these weekly columns. Thanks for the feedback.

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13. Jomama writes:

Body Count is on of my fav's too. I have the original somewhere as well. I had no idea they made an album in 2006. I need to check it out. I've always liked the mixture of the 2 genres. If it's done well of course, ie: Biohazard/Onyx-Judgement Night, etc; Check out the soundtrack for Judgement Night the movie which, BTW, Ice-T does a song with Slayer.

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14. MCL writes:

Soooo good, have all the albums and was lucky to see them live at Reading a couple of years ago!!!!!! Soooo good!!!!!

M

# Mar 15, 2010 @ 12:01 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. RTB writes:

I had no idea BC was that big in europe, also didnt know about the 3 members passing away....
Like their music, wasnt really big on Ts vocals though, idk why just couldnt get into his voice....his rap lps though back in the day were awesome....i always thought T s voice sounded better and alot more savy on those rap lps...especially with singles like " high rolla" played yourself", those songs are still tight...
Good piece oz

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16. hellrat writes:

hell ya, RT...and don't forget:

...fvckin blue lights, read 'em their rights...DRAMA

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17. Chazz writes:

I've been wondering what happened to these guys. I haven't heard their music in years and I didn't know they recently had a new album.

# Mar 15, 2010 @ 11:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. RTB writes:

Hell ya HR, you know what im talkin about, especially after running the streets of SBARB, LOL.....WaR jim rome being a ucsb grad and ucsb going to the final 4
GO GAUCHOS \m/ \m/

# Mar 16, 2010 @ 1:48 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. hellrat writes:

ya man...and i know how you be pimpin out in the Big Red ;)

seriously, that crap is around here...once saw two carloads of idiots shooting handguns at eachother on the freeway out of ventura...right at dusk, could see split seconds of flak exchange between the goddamned clown wagons

was stopped in traffic when that stupid riot broke out when the kid was killed by stabbing...fvcking dozens and dozens of sh!theads throwing anything they could find at eachother--pieces of the curb, bikes, flowerpots, benches, bottles...cops flying in from every direction on motos up the sidewalk, people pretty much causing traffic accidents trying to flee outta there in a panic

some other banger kid got stabbed right around the corner from my house not long thereafter

i fvckin hate all of em....let em kill eachother off---along with the religious zealots of any persuasion, corrupt politicians (99.987% today), fuel monopolies, the britney spears type following, any pseudo 'metal' whatsoever.....

ah hell, fvck it....but i'll tell ya, a good pipe dream is great sometimes

NP---Bowels of the Devil---BC

this tune makes me fvckin jolly.....its SO fvckin cheesy :)

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20. hellrat writes:

oh yeah...Rome Up, Jim ;)

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21. RTB writes:

God damn man, i had no idea SB was that vile....havent been up there in about 10 years, and i know things get a little crazy with ucsb students but shootings, riots?
Wow....sorry to hear that bro....

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22. hellrat writes:

ya, it ain't all oprah, avocados, and hollywood's club med :)

nah really, it ain't too bad at all....nothin' like growin up a white kid in northern new mexico---now, THAT was a real fun rodeo...had us a lotta good dust ups in them days!

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23. Vermin writes:

Next Sunday Old School on Death Angel? :D

# Mar 18, 2010 @ 5:45 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. Diamond Oz writes:

Not a bad idea that. I have a couple of others in the pipeline but I think Death Angel will have to be done. ood shout!

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25. Nimrev writes:

No problem! This was a great one, by the way, Body Count is an amazing band. Good job.

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26. Diamond Oz writes:

Cheers mate. Glad you enjoyed it!

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