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A Decade Of Metal In Review

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On the 31 Dec 1999, no planes came crashing out of the sky, nuclear bombs went off or microwave ovens tried to eat anyone. However, times were about to change and in the metal scene change was already well underway. Let us take a stroll through the decade in metal that was.

Many of the 90s big names like Emperor and Pantera prepared to give their last venomous scream dying off in the wake of ever diminishing interest in the metal scene that had plagued the 90s. In the year 2000 a band named “Limp Bizkit” came out with an album called "Chocolate Starfish and the Hotdog Flavoured Water" and in a storm nu-metal took over the public perception of heavy music, changing the face of metal irreparably. Although nu-metal had already been pioneered by Korn, bands like Deftones, Disturbed, Mudvayne and Linkin Park all had breakout releases in 2000.

However, underneath this movement was a small American snowball that with help from such prototypical bands like Unearth was to become metalcore. You see, 2000 also saw the release of albums by bands such as Killswitch Engage and Lamb of God - emerging names that would dominate zine covers and awards for the rest of the decade. Combining the melodic death metal of the Swedes, hardcore punk, breakdowns and musicianship absent from their nu-metal brothers, so great was the trend in these new metalcore (and diversity, with bands such as Lamb of God moving firmly into metal territory) that it birthed its own tag - the New Wave of American Heavy Metal, or NWOAHM, to match the NWOBHM, which rose to prominence in the early 80s.

The early 00s were also a time for a select few special bands to rise out of the coming scene stagnation that happens to any popular scene. Mastodon, with its sludge and technical death metal background seemed an unlikely candidate for metal super-stardom. But the clash created a progressive groove thrash monster that sucker punched fans in 2004 with the release "Leviathan," bringing attention to a band that would be highly praised for future releases.

In fact, when the staff of Metal Underground were polled on the best album and newcomer of the decade, Mastodon's three latest releases and the band itself both dominated the votes. Unfortunately, getting people to agree on the best of a whole decade (a decidedly long time) was like herding cats. Everyone from Norther to Ihsahn to Anaal Nathrakh got a vote for best newcomer with Trivium eventually topping the points - even so with only three coinciding votes.

In terms of meteoric rises however, after a successful sophomore effort called "Sonic Firestorm," a novelty guitar game called Guitar Hero launched a power metal band called DragonForce into the world’s spotlight. With lightning speed output it became clear that in the 00s, solos were back in style. On the other end of the spectrum an oddball wall of sound called Sunn O))) was making an unbearable bass heavy racket to neighbors across the globe. While forms of drone music had existed previously, the amalgamation of doom metal with ambient experimentation caused a bubbling and brewing that lurched out of nowhere in the early to mid 00s bringing with it plenty of interesting drone infused sludge bands. In fact, a huge number of doom/sludge/ambient bands merged with elements of drone as the once separate fields experimented with freakish fusions.

Back on the main track, as nu-metal fell out of favor as an out of date trend (bar Slipknot and a select other few), the NWOAHM rose in prominence reaching a peak in the mid 00s. Trivium's "Ascendancy" album probably serves as a flagstaff for the scene, which by this time was burgeoning with bands trying to join the crowd. However, 2005 also saw the birth of a new scene taking its cues from those revolutionaries of the metalcore scene. With the buzz surrounding Job For A Cowboy's "Doom" EP came deathcore, a mixture of metalcore and death grind given a new vocal twist (soon to be named pig-squeal or bree vocals) and heavy on breakdowns. Since that release, deathcore and metalcore has dominated the last 5 years of emerging bands with even metal stalwarts like Cryptopsy trying their hands (to decidedly dismal response).

There is no doubt however that the emerging trends of metalcore and deathcore have driven a spike into the metal community. On one side the so called elitists who have been defending holy territory like rabid dogs since the 90s, and on the other a new generation of people genuinely influenced by beloved metal legends but who stray from the roots of metal into mainstream waters or new trends. But despite differences we trudge on together, perhaps most noticeably against the defining music trend and much maligned of the decade; Emo. Like a Trojan horse wearing girls jeans, attempting to infiltrate the walls of metal with such acts as Bullet For My Valentine and Atreyu, metalheads have largely decided to open fire as oppose to open gates.

Black metal seemed to be increasingly split into two camps as the 00s went on. On one hand, the constant source of Norwegian bands keeping true with Immortal influenced blast beat demolitions came slow and steady. On the other hand, the Americans were stewing their own concoction of misery and melancholy. Depressive black metal as it became known taking cues from Burzum emerged from the early 00s USBM (United States Black Metal) bands like Xasthur, Leviathan, Draguar, Weakling and more. This unholy offshoot also made waves by creating unheard of mixtures with funeral doom metal and sludge.

Aside from new fusions, the deciding feeling in the metal scene of the last decade was one of retroactive longing. The 80s were the heyday when metal kicked ass and took names with limits of speed and aggression constantly being expanded. So what became of this resurgence in the interest of old metal bands? The thrash revival of course! While admittedly worshiping and sometimes dubiously recreating the original sound of mid 80s thrash bands, bands like Evile, Warbringer, Bonded By Blood and more were warmly welcomed into the metal community, as deep down most metalheads hold within a deep desire to return to the glory days of the 80s.

And as it turned out, so did the 80s bands. Metallica, Megadeth and Slayer all made serious attempts at blotting out the 90s with vicious new releases, and at the drop of a hat fallen heroes such as Atheist, Pestilence, Forbidden, At The Gates, Exhorder and many more reformed to enjoy the belated legacy they had created. Along with the return to 80s metal ethic, was a return to the complexity of thrash bands in belated reaction to the simplistic groove and nu-metal music that had clouded the late 90s/early 00s. You can read about the trend of progressive metal in another Metal Underground.com column.

Folk and heathen metal had a considerable boost in popularity compared to the 90s, with bands like Primordial, Eluveitie, Finntroll and more making their traditional infused mark. Doom stayed noticeably away from all of this experimentation, choosing instead returning to its basement to concentrate on honing in on the traditional elements of the genre. Likewise, other than the Nintendo metal of DragonForce, power metal stayed the true metal course.

Other mini trends? Pirate bands, inhuman super clicky drums, relentlessly copying At The Gates riffs, increased interest in trolls and Vikings, Ozzy Osbourne becoming known as less of a rock god and more of a shaky Tourettes sufferer, ambient black metal (read: one guy in his bedroom), ninja and gorillas invading pits, the rise of kvlt and tr00 and br00tal, the Grammys still sucking, Devin Townsend losing hair and the proportional increase in the "skullet" as a fashionable haircut, masked bands, increasing tightening of pants from the Limp Bizkit era, and Lemmy refusing to stop rocking. Good on ya Lemmy.

We’re already well into 2010 now, we wait with bated breath to see what you have in store.

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1. Diamond Oz writes:

Great article Cynic!

# Feb 17, 2010 @ 3:43 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. Jackrum writes:

excellent..

loved the emo description

# Feb 17, 2010 @ 5:01 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. DeathCrush writes:

nicely put man!

# Feb 17, 2010 @ 6:24 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. deathbringer writes:

"Like a Trojan horse wearing girls jeans" - that made me LOL the first time and I still giggle when I read that now.

# Feb 17, 2010 @ 8:53 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. zMETALlica writes:

You nailed ever point I'd make, great job man!

# Feb 17, 2010 @ 8:57 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. gripper writes:

shredded
this type of work is why iam all over this site
also prec the Slough Feg review it introduced me to the band and they are my kinda deal

# Feb 17, 2010 @ 10:03 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. Blindgreed1 writes:

Fvcking Cynic nails it again. You REALLY need to write more buddy.

# Feb 17, 2010 @ 10:42 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. spiral_architect writes:

great article, cynic! the only trend you left out was retro-metal, such as the zeppelin-sabbath-purple hybrid of wolfmother.

# Feb 17, 2010 @ 11:22 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. Analguest writes:

what about the comeback of death metal never has it been as popular as it is now dozens of great bands and albums and i'm not talking about the bands that reformed...
thought i would mentioned that since death metal is my love :d

# Feb 17, 2010 @ 12:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. Inthecasket writes:

Excellent article, the decade in metal could not be described any better than this. Nice job!

# Feb 17, 2010 @ 12:54 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. metalrox555 writes:

I loved this article. It was extremely interesting to read especially because, since I'm 18, the last decade was the decade I can say I came into my own as a metalhead. Also, I loved how most of it was very unbiased.

The only thing I would say is that Atreyu and BFMV are technically not emo. Emo is an alternative genre from the 90s. Or, if you mean they're emotional, well then Metallica would be emo and so would every other band because all music is emotional. Sorry, just had to point that out haha.

Like I said, all around a great article though.

# Feb 17, 2010 @ 12:55 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. Blindgreed1 writes:

^^^Personally I can't wait to read Cynic's response to metalrox555. I'ma go get some popcorn and find a good seat.

# Feb 17, 2010 @ 1:00 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. deathbringer writes:

I think Atreyu's direction blends some emocore in with the metal/core-ish influences they already had. Their first album wasn't bad, but they got more whiney and emocore-ish as the releases progressed. BMFV less so on the core. While they use some whiney clean vocals, they also stick to more of a metal style riffing from what I've heard, even if watered down at times.

# Feb 17, 2010 @ 1:21 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. MetalFodder writes:

Excellent Article! I have been trying to get my older friends who grew up with metal in the 80's to realize this. It's coming back! No more boring drone like Nu Metal bands! I think we've finally killed just about all of them.

# Feb 17, 2010 @ 4:01 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. metalrox555 writes:

Blindgreed1, why are you making it sound like I insulted him or something? :S I didn't, I just gave my opinion on genres. Plus, I wasn't saying Atreyu and BFMV are death metal or anything close. They're post-hardcore/metalcore. I was just saying that I don't consider them emo. Emo bands are bands like Sunny Day Real Estate and Rites Of Spring.

# Feb 17, 2010 @ 4:15 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. Blindgreed1 writes:

metalrox555: It isn't that at all, I just happen to know Cynic loves a good genre debate. lol. I can say with the utmost certainty that Cynic is the leading authority on metal genres here at the MU. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone here who would disagree with that statement.

# Feb 17, 2010 @ 4:38 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. rushfan1 writes:

How ironic that the article starts out by saying, "On the 31 Dec 1999, no planes came crashing out of the sky..." since today here in Palo Alto, CA we had a plane fall out of the sky and knock out power for most of the city for almost 12 hours! Oh the irony!

# Feb 17, 2010 @ 7:47 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. metalrox555 writes:

Blindgreed1: Ohhhh ok, well I like to think that I know a lot about genres in general too so I would love to talk to him about it. Sorry if I thought you were trying to start something by the way haha, I don't come here enough to know that kind of stuff.

# Feb 17, 2010 @ 8:47 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. EsotericSurgery writes:

Nice read Cynic! I really enjoyed this \m/

# Feb 17, 2010 @ 11:54 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. americanpatriot1 writes:

Pointing out that Cynic writes good articles is like telling a meteorologist that the sun is an orange ball of flames. It's kind of a no brainer. But, for the sake of stroking ego's, good job bud.

# Feb 18, 2010 @ 12:35 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. Zach Lym writes:

Are you crazy, you forgot to metion the highest charting death metal album of all time came out in the past 10 years: The Dethalbum by Dethklok. Sure, they are a virtual band, but they are totally metal!

# Feb 18, 2010 @ 1:10 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. cudos to paul, fuck you bruce writes:

Great f***in' article man, couldn't have said it any better than that Cynic, good stuff. Having just turned 20 this week the last decade was basically my decade as a metalhead, kinda reminded me of how it all happened, cool.

# Feb 18, 2010 @ 2:12 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. HarvesterOfSorrow18 writes:

Great DP metalroxx555!!!

Oh and this was a great article too haha

# Feb 18, 2010 @ 2:58 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. munsonthedestroyer writes:

Great read!

Though, Deathcore was kind around before '05 with JFAC's Doom EP, but JFAC definitely launched it into the more mainstream of metal, and went on to define most of what is considered "deathcore" now.

# Feb 18, 2010 @ 8:32 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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25. RTB writes:

17 LMAO
Not a bad read

# Feb 18, 2010 @ 10:51 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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26. Tekmet writes:

If there is one thing to be said for the 2000s it was the continued meteoric rise (and equally fast fall) of bands that really weren't original or creative or even good. Most of that was due to the phenomenal, undeniable influence of the internet, file sharing p2p, and cheap downloads. Nice to see you mention doom. As really an unsung sector of the metal world, it does deserve some credit for its creativity (sometimes) and its stamina. Think YOB. Oh, and go listen to them too. Good article.

# Feb 18, 2010 @ 11:29 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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27. Blindgreed1 writes:

Tekmet: Cynic LOVES the Doom.

# Feb 18, 2010 @ 11:34 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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28. spiral_architect writes:

americanpatriot: the sun i see in the sky is yellow, not orange!

# Feb 18, 2010 @ 11:37 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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29. Blindgreed1 writes:

^^^You're an architect, not a meteorologist.

# Feb 18, 2010 @ 11:40 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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30. Hammerheart writes:

Awesome article, loved the emo description as well, lmao.

# Feb 18, 2010 @ 12:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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31. hater_guy writes:

well put article.

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32. OlafBerzerker writes:

Nice read, it made my toilet time all the more exciting. I look forward to reading more in the future. thanks. \m/

# Feb 18, 2010 @ 2:01 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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33. Halalallah writes:

Awesome post. Bang on about everything. 2010 is going to be a great year with bands like Anterior and the like poping up.

\m/

# Feb 18, 2010 @ 5:30 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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34. killernofiller writes:

Top knotch article...."Trojan horse wearing girl jeans"....f*cking priceless...

# Feb 18, 2010 @ 8:13 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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35. HeadbangerHippy writes:

Very well done article. I laughed at the Ambient Black Metal description! Haha. Awesome stuff. I don't feel so bad about this past decade, not long ago I was talking with a pal and I was like "f***, some great Metal has come out in the last ten years, but no one is going to know that, or appreciate it. This decade will be known for Emo music, Techno and Rap!" But I can see there are still many Defenders of the Faith! Great read, rock on my brothers. /,,/ Who gives a f*** what the mainstream population knows or cares?

# Feb 18, 2010 @ 10:26 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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36. hellrat writes:

Nice work Cynic....hard to take such a broad topic and wrap it up into an article...ya did good!

the Headbanging Hippy makes me think about something in his statement about a lot of great metal going unnoticed in favor of all things pseudo-metal...Hell Almighty, ain't that the truth!

One unnoticed but glorious gem that marked the first year of this past decade that should not be further ignored:

DEATHRACE KING by a lovely little swede death/thrash quintet called THE CROWN....find it!

There are many discarded diamonds scattered among the metal WASTES of the last ten years...

'metal' today is largely an example of the general decline of ANY good genre once the sheep start voting

# Feb 18, 2010 @ 10:55 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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37. americanpatriot1 writes:

Architect, I refuse to lower my educational standards to suit your lack thereof. How's about doing a little homework pal.

# Feb 19, 2010 @ 12:38 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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38. R#er writes:

dude u forgot one of the most important events of this decade ...growth metal on the internet...

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39. r#er writes:

i stay in a country where only maiden and metallica albums are released in stores ..if not for the net ,burzum would only be a onomatopoiea for my bowels

# Feb 19, 2010 @ 1:05 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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40. METAL213 writes:

Very good overall review. My only disagreement is about Trivium being the flagstaff for the metalcore scene and influencing other bands to "join the crowd." That title belongs more to Killswitch Engage because of their album "Alive or Just Breathing." But they aren't even the first band to combine both harsh and clean vocals. That pretty much started with Fear Factory. Anyway that's just my one small disagreement but other than that, they hit the nail on the on the metalhead with a ten ton hammer. STAY METAL MY FRIENDS!

# Feb 19, 2010 @ 1:11 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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41. deathbringer writes:

I think "flagstaff" may carry differing implications depending on who you ask. I think that release could be identified as being instrumental in the tipping point of the metalcore movement though. I think KSE and Shadowsfall, and Unearth (and let's not forget Overcast and Vision of Disorder) all played important rolls in the build up of metalcore. Like he says, by then the scene "was burgeoning with bands trying to join the crowd" already. But Trivium blended some core with Metallica-wannabe sound that opened the floodgates to the mainstream masses for sure, even before many metalcore stalwarts started softening their sound to gain more mainstream followers.

# Feb 19, 2010 @ 9:45 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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42. Jomama writes:

Great recap of this decade of metal. I also can't wait to see how it morphs again. Being a teen in the 80's it's awesome to still be a metalhead!

# Feb 19, 2010 @ 11:38 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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43. wilco writes:

great reading hornsup to cynic

# Feb 20, 2010 @ 4:36 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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44. Rayze writes:

Interesting that although this is written by Cynic, and mentions the return of bands such as Atheist, he didn't mention the return of Atheist's kin: CYNIC!!!!

Crazy jazz-fusion tech-death bands. Oh well, maybe didn't want to confuse people.

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45. Persecution Mike writes:

That's a hell of a good article.

# Feb 20, 2010 @ 12:38 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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46. Cynic writes:

Thank you all for the kind words - I'm just glad you all enjoyed reading it. We've all slogged through this decade as metal fiends together!

@metalrox555 - "Emo is an alternative genre from the 90s." - If only that were so, unfortunately terms get hijacked and for better or worse emo has become popularly more associated with an 00s music culture. Good point though I'm glad you mentioned it for people. The same thing happened with the term post-thrash, which used to be used to describe proto-death bands like Death and Possessed.

Zach Lym, munson, hellrat, R#er, Rayze - all good points, it's impossible to cover it all without writing a book so thanks for the contributions. Also a few points were covered in the tech-metal article I linked to (such as the return of Cynic).

# Feb 22, 2010 @ 2:55 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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47. n0thinghead writes:

kickass article cynic man. while i agree w/ DB's #13 post and i also am w/ metalrox on this one. i completely loved the article kuz it was full-truth until that part about bullet and atreyu, but it is arguable and completely understandable y one (a REAL metalhead) would write/say/think that. i personally would love an article of what the MU staff rlly thinks about what's in store for metal's future. i think metalcore and deathcore r gonna continue to get more and more watered down until it's nothing but 2 or 3-min. pig-squeals, breakdowns and recycled chugga-chugga guitar riffs. also probly a return to old style like with black tide, i would love to see them succeed along with, a personal fav from my home state, the absence, gothenburg style melodeath from FLORIDA!! i rlly think melodic metal's gonna get even bigger, but sadly, w/o the respect of the swede sound and it'll just become nothing but simple guitar playing, cute clean vox and nothing more.

# Feb 22, 2010 @ 5:25 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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48. MetalRockFan1982 writes:

I loved the artical, as always and loved the bit about emos ha.
I only dont agree with one thing, I myself dont consider Mudvayne a nu-metal band and im sure there are many others that dont as well.
They may have came out around that time but it seems they got tagged and labled nu-metal.
There the only band of the Nu-Metal bands you listed that i listen too, the rest i dont care for what so ever
i think Mudvayne is very talented and is a cut above the other nu-metal bands you listed.
thats just me tho. . .

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49. BoltThrower writes:

Sorry, Cynic, but anybody who attempts to talk about metal between 2000 and 2010 without even mentioning High On Fire loses all and ANY credit.

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50. deathbringer writes:

LD50 was definitely in the realm of nu-metal. With the down-tuned guitars and up front bass lines, they fit right in. I loved that album, but it and the band (IMO) have not stood up to the test of time well.

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51. Rayze writes:

Thanks a lot Cynic. This article and the one about prog/tech metal bands inspired me to join this site. Great for anyone young metalhead to find good bands from when he was a toddler.

# Feb 24, 2010 @ 12:23 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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52. cuntfuckingwhoreforamother writes:

BETWEEN THE BURIED AND ME???? HELLO? Hands down the most talented musicians of any new band from the 2000's. Watch them play and try and prove me wrong. I never gave them proper dues till I saw them up close and live and just studied them playing. I had no clue their music was so damned complicated and they played FLAWLESS and have every other time I've seen them. Not to mention they're the most innovative and "breath of fresh air" in the whole Metal scene of the past ten years. imo

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53. n0thinghead writes:

db: lost and found was the one the did it for me. i've been done with mudvayne for yr.'s now, but NOT as long as i have been done with limp bizkit, korn, etc.

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54. Nekromaniac writes:

Actually a pretty good article, covers ALL bases and gives a fresh take on the metalcore scene by showing it as a reaction to the numetal thing.

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55. Spellbinder writes:

Great article Cynic!!!

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56. Riku writes:

huh who are you people where am i

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57. 80zSpeedmetalFreak writes:

being a fan of mainly bands like Metallica, Pantera, Lamb of God, Megadeath, Ozzy and so on and so forth...
Mudvayne is the only band ill listen to out of thoz "Nu Metal" bands weather it be LD or there newest self-titled album.
but i am about as old as the guys in mudvayne and my taste in music has changed a little since i was younger, i can see how they started making diffrent sounding music with old age, just like metallica ( black album, load, reload )
there old and mellow now, not young and full of it

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58. KluKluxClam writes:

Sorry but Guitar tones dont place you in any set of genre.
it must be written on some stone that coming out at the millnium and have a certain guitar tones makes you nu-metal.
um no.
As for mudvayne iv never been a fan but i do think there trying to do good, like keeping rock and metal afloat and not garbage like most bands that come out now days
try to stick to the roots of rock and metal itself
thats my 2 cents no one will care about or here what im trying to hear

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59. Cynic writes:

deathbringer said "down-tuned guitars" not anything about guitar tone. That along with rapping, some "jump-da-f***-up" lyrics, up front bass, drop-d and groove influenced guitar riffs make LD50 nu-metal.

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60. Guttersniper writes:

Best metal article I've read in a while.. :) .. People need to stop mentioning bands they wish were in the article. There are great bands that weren't mentioned but its probbly becaust they didnt have so much actual influence on music as the ones mentioned did

DB- Completely agree with you about Mudvayne and L.D. 50, that was a great album but they just weren't able to make themselves any better after that and actually regressed with each album.

B4MV and Atreyu are emo, whether you are a fan or not you need to realize that. However, i do not think they have been a bad thing for metal, thus far. Alot of my friends started listening to them and i have slowly been able to turn them to listen to more metal; whereas, had they not started listening to them they wouldnt have been able to progress their metal tastes to begin with

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61. n0thinghead writes:

^^^ soo basically, what ur saying is, bullet and atreyu are now the modern korn and linkin park. they're the gateway metal bands of nowadays.

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62. Guttersniper writes:

^ Yeah pretty much.. You summed it up alot nicer than I did tho

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63. Brittany Beautality writes:

hmm...it was a good article. just think you should remember that Slayer is a great thrash metal band.....that is old but recently released their "Playing With Dolls" album. the album is good....

but it is funny how you describe emo's....nu-metal sucks....Trivium is'nt a very good band either...they should'nt be considered metal at allll......

-Brittany Beautality

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