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Emo And Goth To Be Made Illegal In Russia

Kerrang! reports: The Russian government is in the process of drafting a law to make emo and goth music illegal.

Last month a parliamentary committee was convened to discuss a draft proposal of the Russian government's Government Strategy In The Sphere Of Spiritual And Ethical Education bill, the details of which were leaked to The Moscow Times. The newspaper subsequently reported that, among other things, the draft bill dubbed the musical movements a "dangerous teen trend" and called for emo and goth websites to be regulated and young people dressing like emos or goths to be banned from entering schools and government buildings.

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1. DeathInEye writes:

hahahahahahahaha So wrong but so funny

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 1:44 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. b12 writes:

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahah i love it

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 1:45 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. Detmetal20 writes:

Even though this is one of the funniest storys I have heard....its not right, music and the "music trends" do not cause kids to do bad things or make them dangerous, I have listen to metal for a long long time, I am also a huge Manson fan and have been a Marilyn Manson fan for a long time. That does not me dangerous or make me a bad person, its just f***ing music, an escape from life when you listen to it. People need to understand that music doesnt ruin life, parents who dont care, teachers who dont care, and people who dont care is the reason why people go bad. And seriously, why ban emo? If that music does anything, it just make kids gay.

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 1:46 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. DeathInEye writes:

I'm curious as to how they will define "emo and goth" in legal terms and how they plan to enforce this tyranny.

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 1:55 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. Zero54 writes:

To answer your question DeathInEye with Crazy Ivans, Tesla Tanks, Yuri's Mind Control and Kirov Blimbs if nessesary.

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 2:08 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. Kalis_wrath writes:

Wow! Russia sucks more and more everyday! I am a dedicated metaller, but for the Russian goths would help them out if I could. Fvck the emos though. Cant stand them! Emo should be illegal world wide!

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 2:15 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. SHREDDER13 writes:

POST #3 & #6

LOL!!!!!!....


I'm not an emo nor a goth therefore, I could care less...

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 2:34 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. Kalis_wrath writes:

It wont just stop at emos and goths either. They will ban metal, rap, and anyother form of "undesireable music." Vladmir Puttin you are a fvcking FAG!

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 2:40 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. SHREDDER13 writes:

It must sukk to live in Russia then...If the U.S. attempts to perform these similar actions.......they will pay!...but I doubt it

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 2:46 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. MetallicPunk writes:

I think that is a bunch of BS people should be able to express theirselves anyway THEY see fit not what others want them to look like,they will always try to squash individuality but indviduality will never die.

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 2:48 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. b.bristowe writes:

3 cheers for communism.

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 2:49 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. Infected-Voice writes:

to me goths r just emos in complete black and a cross

soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo WAY TO GO RUSSIA

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 2:53 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. SHREDDER13 writes:

#12...I mildly agree...

Any form of government is completely full of BS...

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 2:55 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. Kalis_wrath writes:

Shredder, people are so fvcked up in Russia that their government in an attempt to keep people procreating has to bribe them! Their suicide rates and deaths from alcohol poisioning are sky high ane exceed any country in the world. There is a reson why the women there are so desprate to get out of that country and put themselfs on a mail order list to be married off to a forigener(sp?).

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 2:59 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. Kalis_wrath writes:

Also, Russia drinks more alcohol per capita than all of the countries of the world combined.

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16. kidhatesyou writes:

lmfao, who are the other russians going to make fun of now? for real, this sucks, you should be able to live however you want and listen to whatever you want, regardless of how gay it is. lol

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 3:04 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. SHREDDER13 writes:

Kalis that makes perfect sense.
Is there anything good to do in Russia rather than being extorted by the mob?...
Russia is really devouring souls one by one.

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 3:08 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. SHREDDER13 writes:

"kidhatesyou"

That's "Natural Law" you're implying. John Locke greatly supported that lifestyle method but, nobody approved of it.

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 3:11 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. Kalis_wrath writes:

Well nothing really of a positive nature Shredder. Russia is just on a slow decline to self destruction.

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 3:16 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. SHREDDER13 writes:

Well then, I shall remove Russia from my "Places to visit before I die" list. Remind me to never go to Russia...NEVER!.....unless???

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 3:21 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. Kalis_wrath writes:

*LOL* Going to visit is one thing. I would reccomend keeping your passport superglued or even better Gorrilla glued to you and then get out A.S.A.P!

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 3:29 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. Fuck_A_Name writes:

Damn Commi's. It's sh** like this thought that makes me like Commie's better than nazi's; at least they get sh** right half the time, instead of never. Vodka for instance, I think evens out for me against how sh**ty their launguage is. Their kickass tanks makes up for how horrible Siberia is, and their frequent use of Molotov's to kill Nazi's makes up for them allying with the Germans in the first place. In this case, sure, they're sh**ting on human expressions of individuality... but who doesn't hate people who look like The Cure?

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# Jul 23, 2008 @ 3:32 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. SHREDDER13 writes:

lmao!!!.....what in Satan's name is "Gorrilla Glued?"....Anyways, if that's the case then, nothing pertaining to Russia shall cross my mind ever again. (No fear towards Russia implied)...

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 3:39 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. ED209 writes:

Pinko's!!!!! What will they think of next?

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 3:45 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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25. Kalis_wrath writes:

Gorilla glue is a super strong water proof glue. It bonds damn near anything to anything!

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 4:27 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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26. Jenny writes:

This is pretty funny, too funny, but that ain't cool. I'm definitely not goth or emo but I support individuality. How would you feel if your homeland banded anything to do w/metal? I would be f***in' p***ed no doubt about that!!!

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 4:37 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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27. Jenny writes:

This new "law" is just POINTLESS, just like every other political decision.

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 4:39 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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28. Fuck_A_Name writes:

^Anarchy in the USSR!!!

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 4:41 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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29. Cynic writes:

Wow this is bad - come on people you think an ignorant politician is going to know the difference between goth and black metal? Hopefully this is just a bad rumor.

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 4:41 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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30. hot k writes:

Well... there goes the russian market for facepaint n eyeliner.

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 4:48 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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31. skribb writes:

Wow. This is almost as retarded as when Greece decided to ban any form of gaming and gambling.

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 4:48 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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32. DeathInEye writes:

That's why I posed my question as to how will they legally define emo & goth, not to say they'll follow it, but.... When I was in high school, only 4 years ago, I was commonly labelled goth, which made wonder how they will enforce this? What would my "punishment" have been for being "perceived" as goth, now a "threat to Russian youth"?

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 4:53 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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33. citrus_tea writes:

There will always be some political turd looking to blame societies problems on music. Anyone remember Tipper Gore and her retarded PMRC.

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 4:54 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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34. Fuck_A_Name writes:

^that's it! send Dee Snider over to Russia and see what happens. We could send Manson, but then the law would probably succeed for sure. :p

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# Jul 23, 2008 @ 4:59 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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35. SHREDDER13 writes:

"Kalis"

Ok now that seems clear...lol...
"Gorrilla Glue".....I still can't get over that...that's an instant classic moment.

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 5:11 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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36. Kalis_wrath writes:

Dee would do it too F.A.N!
Another tid bit of info on Russian politics is that they are a Socialist government. They do not support individualism. That is why as crappy as this news is to me as I am too all for individualism, not at all surprised they would do something like this.

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 5:14 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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37. Fuck_A_Name writes:

Canada is Socialist too I hear... Watch out Canadian stoners! soon you may not be able to wear eye-makeup!

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# Jul 23, 2008 @ 5:17 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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38. Kalis_wrath writes:

*LOL* Glad to make you laugh while helpin ya out Brother!

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39. Jackrum writes:

and people say that Putin isnt a die hard old skool commie B*****d

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 5:29 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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40. SHREDDER13 writes:

F.A.N.

lmao!!!.....canadian stoners watch out!....
You people are going to make die of excessive laughter!

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 5:34 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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41. tirentu writes:

Good move, Russia. Now get rid of rap. Then we'll talk.


Seriously, however much I approve of the elimination of emo and goth, I don't want it to happen this way, orchestrated by dipsh**s in positions of power. Cause you know this means that all "dark"-themed metal (read: metal) is going to be lumped in with goth and summarily disposed of thanks to the narrow-minded f***tardedness of politicians. It's a good thing that all Russian metal bands play cheesy power metal...

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 5:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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42. SHREDDER13 writes:

Forgot to insert *me* after make...but who cares...

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 5:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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43. Jenny writes:

hehehe....nice Post 39 (chuckle)

I agree w/ post 41 all the way. I hate to see politicians involved in this sort of matter when they should concentrate on more important things: oh wait, they don't know how 2 do that either. Damn politics.

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 5:45 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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44. coldiem writes:

Yeah, that's going to work great. Instead of actually solving your countries problems, force them not to dress a certain way, then everything will fix itself! If people want to dress like idiots, let them. If you ban them from dressing one way, they'll either not listen to be a big bad rebel, or find some other stupid way to dress to "express themselves."

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 5:47 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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45. binary_asphyxiation writes:

for once i think i agree with every post on this board. this potential 'law' is ludicrous. a total joke and waste of effort. i believe in eradicating the emo infection, but to do it without an axe or baseball bat with nails is just cowardice...

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 5:52 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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46. SHREDDER13 writes:

43 & 44

You think they care?...All they care about is controlling their people.

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47. Jenny writes:

By banning a people form listening or dressing the way they want? Trust me, this is just the beginning Just like everything else, the goth n emo Russians are gonna try somethin' against this, right?

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48. b.bristowe writes:

No, they will just kill everyone off who opposes them. Russia has done it for years and it's worked. Most efficient way to run a Nation. All Hail Stalin.

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49. KinG_KoOPa writes:

thats some sh**
lol
why dont they ban gangsters too

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 7:32 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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50. Kalis_wrath writes:

I am sure that if the Russian government were to really crack down on the mob it would do way more for their country.

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 7:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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51. jx writes:

thank god were in the states where emo and goth is fine, we just crack down on people sagging their pants!

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52. That_One_Guy writes:

Lol, that's funny. Sad and horrible... but funny.

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 8:19 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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53. ED209 writes:

I cant help but think that there has to be more important problems in that country. Seriously Goth and emo? really? thats the big subversive threat to the Reds youth culture? They should spend more time worrying about those stockpiles of cold war era weapons.

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 8:53 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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54. BLACKDOG writes:

Haven't they learned that sensorship is never the best way to go.I'm not a big fan of GOTH although I like it way better than I like EMO.But either way your treading dangerous ground when you try to regulate what people do behind closed door's and there not hurting someone.People are allway's gonna gravitate toward the new and different.especially kid's.They really need to let this one go.

# Jul 23, 2008 @ 9:34 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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55. Metallian writes:

this is funny, but there is a difference with goth there. Goth there is taken more seriously like they do dress like black metalists when there in concert, and emos well that's funny so I dont care. But if you walk around with a wrist band,and tattoos on your arms and a band shirt with camo shorts and steel toes you won't be considered goth or emo. I travelled to Russia twice and even though I obviously went to more of a tourist spots there is a difference. There almost like germany they like metal and techno, more techno though. Just dont go to Russia with tight pants acne make up and a dildo up your a$$ and your be fine. so this is funny and useless

# Jul 24, 2008 @ 12:27 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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56. Lady-Reaper writes:

The only thing this would really do is increase the popularity of EMO and Goth. Historically, that's how it works. If you ban it, people want it even more.

# Jul 24, 2008 @ 12:56 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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57. Lady-Reaper writes:

Now all the Emo's and Goths will be so distrait over this, they'll be committing suicide left and right

# Jul 24, 2008 @ 1:04 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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58. JoO writes:

I sincerly hope our government(USA) never becomes as dense as this.... I'm no fan of emo or goth but to think they are actually trying to outlaw a certain genre of music. Who's to say what goth or emo is, I can only sit here and think that this is only going to create more trouble in a country that is allready doomed.

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# Jul 24, 2008 @ 1:20 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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59. Jenny writes:

Its $#!tty, but true, all the Russian Gov. wants is "control", but this is a ridiculous way 2 do it. I'm not a fan of being Goth R Emo, but I think all the Politicians are the ones that need to commit suicide lol.

# Jul 24, 2008 @ 1:21 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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60. Kalis_wrath writes:

Jenny how old might you be?

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61. Jenny writes:

I'm 16. Why?

# Jul 24, 2008 @ 1:40 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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62. Lady-Reaper writes:

jenny is 16 kalis!

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63. Jenny writes:

Hahaha...whats this all about?

# Jul 24, 2008 @ 1:50 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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64. Kalis_wrath writes:

That explains everything and relieved to know you are 16! You have alot to say, however nothing of any substance about this subject and are still learning about the world, how it works and the way to be able to talk about it on an intellectual level. You will get there with alot of education. Just my observations as a 23 year old woman. Just remember to keep hitting the books and and as I tell all of my younger sisters of steel; your brain will get you far.

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65. Jenny writes:

Seriously, why do u wanna know?

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66. Jenny writes:

Thanx Kalis, I'll be sure to do my research. I'm not trying to offend anyone personally. My heads a work in progress. I may not know everything, but I know the world isn't fair, and I may not know what everyone else my be going through, but I side with people who deserve respect. I'm actually quite capable of looking at things very seriously, just at the right place @ the right time, otherwise people might take me too seriously. Thanx agian.

I still believe what happened at this event is unfair!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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67. Kalis_wrath writes:

Hey Lady Reaper! How are you brother? I myself have been saying "DAMN COMMIE BASTARDS!" all day!

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68. Jenny writes:

Try n' stay on topic ladies! LOL.

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69. Pacer writes:

f*** You Russia

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70. Kalis_wrath writes:

Its un-fair yes, but unlike here in America, Russia has no form of constitution that protects the individual. Life in Russia is far from fair. Do I understand why they would do this? Yes, its in their nature sadly. I am feeling pretty lucky to live in a country that has the right to freedom of speach, religon and to bear arms to protect myself.

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71. james44 writes:

maybe it just russian april fools

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72. Jamez writes:

Looking at the comments, seems like I'm the only one who's actually been to Russia. And in any case, this bill will never pass. Just some BS by a couple of oversensitive parlament members. There are bills like this in every nation, 'ban tobacco' ban alcohol, ban metal, ban porn' blah blah blah and they never pass. Till now

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73. Buttface writes:

Bwwwaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha thats piss funny...... How f***in Nazi is that....

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74. psythe writes:

^LOL!

I don't pretend to know everything, but crossing Russia off your 'places to visit' list is a HORRIBLE choice. There's way too much unique culture, history and scenery there to pass it up. Especially if you're doing so on the basis of their national alcohol-related deaths rates.

As for banning music, no Western government would ever bother to try it - not because they know they wouldn't succeed, but simply because music is far too popular and simple a distraction for the masses. The government isn't going to ban us from listening to music if we'd rather do that than investigate their affairs. Sure, you can listen to music about what the government's doing wrong, but I've never yet seen a song unite a people to civil action.

Music is an artform, a reflection of self. If the Russian government bans a particular type of art, they will be banning a particular reflection of self, which is impossible unless we allow our imaginations to run to the "thought police" in Orwell's '1984'. This legislation is a mockery of its' legislators, if it is indeed not mere rumour and hearsay.

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75. Jamez writes:

Wow! Very impressive, psythe.... (without sarcasm, for once)

# Jul 24, 2008 @ 5:10 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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76. Jackrum writes:

In the Rodina, we do not tolerate the music of emo and goth pigdog americans.. them with their mcdonalds and floppy hair wit de eyeliner...

*watches as Commendant Putin orders a spetznaz firing squad to excecute a cd rack of sisters of mercy cds*

# Jul 24, 2008 @ 5:18 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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77. acacia writes:

LOL best thing about it is there is no such thing as emo or goth music

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78. ComeUntoSweetDeath writes:

Russia sucks

# Jul 24, 2008 @ 9:28 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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79. anonymous writes:

while i do not agree with some russian policies and supression of freedom of speech, however to all of u who say russia sucks i would understand considering all the things going on at the moment, but nevertheless russia under putin is a far better place than it was 8 years ago in terms of living standards for working class people and most people there actually in favour of him so unless u have lived there and been a victim of unfair treatment it is pure ignorant to say such things considering u get ur info and only know whats going there through news reports which are totally biased in the western world due to russia's opposition in power to america.
and alcohol consumption is just as high in other countries so stop this stereotyping.
as for banning the music i think its a step too far by any means and i dont think that its gonnabe possible considering previous russian leader in the 90s tried to ban alcohol and what happened?!
i dont know if im gonna get grilled for this statement but i just tried to explain my view

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80. metalheaddrummer101 writes:

actually, the US government is almost as bad. If we get another republican (Mccaine) in office, it might mean the death of freedom of speech

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81. sahaubutie writes:

Actually, the Russian Constitution has plenty of articles that protect the individual. It's in Chapter two of said Constitution. Article 29, in particular, clearly states the individuals rights of free speech. Is it perfect? No. Can it change? Yes. Our own "Patriot Act" is proof of that. But I don't think that a bunch of made up teenagers who are depressed because their girlfriend/boyfriend dumped them and thinks that that makes them special in some way is going to cause such a political change. Unless they're terrorists. Then they're fvcked.

# Jul 24, 2008 @ 10:40 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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82. Christfucker writes:

I understand banning emo. But I only halfway understand banning goths.

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83. deathbringer writes:

Without Eastern Europe to act as their human shields (you know, for when the Americans attack), you'd think Russia would need emos and goths around, just in case. Perhaps a registration system for all "offenders" is part of the plan. [/sarcasm]

# Jul 24, 2008 @ 2:54 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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84. Mr.Pot writes:

Ha this is f***ing funny...kinda wrong...but hey, i hate emo's so go russia!
but for the goth thingy, eh, i could care less if they came or go ya know.

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85. ATHENA writes:

GOTH I KNOW, BUT WHAT'S EMO?YOU MEAN,LIKE EMO PHILIPS-THE SHOP TEACHER IN "UHF"WHO CUTS INTO HIS HAND?THOSE POOR RUSKIES-NOW THEY'L HAVE TO GO NEXT DOOR TO DUESCTHLAND FOR GOTH-HOME OF RAMMSTEIN&MEGAHERTZ-DAS IS GUT!

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86. Kalis_wrath writes:

^Or "Ist krieg!"

# Jul 25, 2008 @ 1:58 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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87. Terminator writes:

i am strongly against putting a ban on any type of artistical expression or musical form (emo and goth included)....both emo and goth (kids/style/music) generally annoy me, but you cant ban a person from being their self, well idealistically anyway. i quite enjoy ripping on and poking fun at goth and emo kids. but damn, some of the goth and emo chicks are f***in hot!

# Jul 25, 2008 @ 2:26 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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88. Kalis_wrath writes:

I am going to stress this again; its communism for you.

# Jul 25, 2008 @ 2:36 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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89. rusty string writes:

this is a bad joke... fukin goverment dont know sh** about music...

# Jul 25, 2008 @ 8:33 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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90. Fuck_A_Name writes:

damn, some of the goth and emo chicks are f***in hot!

Actually, terminator, those are dudes; those emo bastards are sneaky like that!

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# Jul 25, 2008 @ 2:36 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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91. psythe writes:

^ I was wondering why my girlfriend had a p***s :P

# Jul 26, 2008 @ 4:15 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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92. big hole mum writes:

ohhhhhhhhh my god the world has finnally gone bonkers

ahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

haaheeheheheaahaaheaeaheaehea

# Jul 26, 2008 @ 7:17 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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93. Red_Chord writes:

the world as always been bunkers, look at history books and learn...we are a disgrace to the universe

# Jul 26, 2008 @ 10:23 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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94. teeheehee writes:

f*** emos! f*** goths! f*** russia!

# Jul 26, 2008 @ 10:46 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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95. Red_Chord writes:

Yep, the world as always been like that (look on post above)...what's new ?

# Jul 26, 2008 @ 11:24 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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96. Kallah 2000 writes:

Looks like A7X will be illegal in Russia... lucky bastards.

# Jul 26, 2008 @ 5:15 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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97. Jackrum writes:

i could be a right B*****D and cite sooo many time sthe russian "government"has fcuked with the eastern european living standards but whats the point.. anyone in america need only look at the countries east of germany..

thats what 60 years of russia does.. it kills and retards everything..

commie rule fails.. cuba is a stagnant island.. and its a shame putin rules the ex USSR, because we are going to be in a second cold war.. because of him

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98. jordan writes:

thats the gayest thing ive ever head

# Jul 27, 2008 @ 4:53 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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99. stephen writes:

Doesn't this sh** seem really Orwellian?

# Jul 27, 2008 @ 4:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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100. iEATbabies writes:

im moving to russia

# Jul 27, 2008 @ 6:21 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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101. Kalis_wrath writes:

They will ban your life style too I.E.B.

# Jul 27, 2008 @ 8:17 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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102. Kris6161 writes:

Oh my..
Let be realistic, in the eyes of many, goths, emos, metalheads (either fans of black metal, death metal or any other sub-gender of metal) they all are labeled the same. Anyone that wears black clothes, boots, long hair etc. will be targted..So you guys above who say "im not goth Im okay" so some stupid thing like that, think again..They are gonna target everyone that looks like an "emo" or "goth" as if they will know how to define whether you are goth or hardcore fan of Burzum..
It will be interesting to see how they will implement such change, cause I belive it will fail just like many things have already faild within Russia but also world-wide. Example, they tried to ban (globally) a CoF shirt that had printed on it "Jesus is a c***" I grant you, some people were arrested however, do people still wear it? YES..Is everyone who wears it ending up in jail r with a fine? NO! So I think its just gonna fail like many policies world "leaders" come up with..

# Jul 27, 2008 @ 11:50 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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103. stephen writes:

I find it funny that the Russian government has nothing better to do than pick on subcultures.

If they're only concerned with the way "goth" or "emo" people appear outwardly and their musical preferences, their priorities are completely out of order.

If they're concerned with something deeper like these people's mindsets, their attitudes towards life, then simply banning certain clothing and music isn't going to help at all and the ban is therefore irrelevant.

# Jul 28, 2008 @ 12:30 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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104. Kalis_wrath writes:

Remember, remember, remember, the 5th of November
The gun powder treason and plot
I can think of no reason the gun powder treason shall ever be forgot!

# Jul 28, 2008 @ 12:58 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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105. XWigglesX writes:

You shouldn't say "second cold war". Just because the wall came down and they are not Commie anymore it doesn't mean a thing has changed. Putin may not be president anymore but he still calls the shots. I saw in the newspaper last week a Russian general said if the Americans put up a missle defence shield in Poland then they will put missles on Cuba again. The Americans basicly said do it and it means war. You cannot tell me things have changed. Oh Kalis did you get my email I sent from my new phone?

# Jul 28, 2008 @ 9:26 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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106. Kalis_wrath writes:

Putin made himself Prime minister of Russia. He made it indefinate and the first Prime minister of Russia.

Wiggles, I got your e-mail and attempted to reply, but it said "problem sending this e-mail" Its been doing that for the last two weeks on every e-mail I send out.

# Jul 28, 2008 @ 1:13 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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107. Zane writes:

You people wouldn''t be b****en if they banned metal and said it caused people to worship Satan and become alchoholics so STFU. Freedom of speech is at big risk right here. If you don't like goth/emo then keep it to yourself.

# Jul 28, 2008 @ 6:24 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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108. Kalis_wrath writes:

Uh... Zane, you are an oximoron!

# Jul 28, 2008 @ 6:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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109. Zane writes:

ok....

# Jul 28, 2008 @ 6:37 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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110. XWigglesX writes:

I'm sure if metal was banned we would b****

# Jul 28, 2008 @ 6:38 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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111. Jenny writes:

Like hell if metal was banned!!! That's impossible.

# Jul 28, 2008 @ 6:56 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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112. Dark_Funeral writes:

RUSSIA FVCKING RULES! Fvck the scene and all those dumb emo fvcks! America should take the hint and tell emos to shove off.

np: Belphegor-Bondage Goat Zombie

# Jul 28, 2008 @ 8:08 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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113. Dark_Funeral writes:

oh and for the people who said you cant tell a goth from a metalhead you are retarded.

metalheads look like EVERYDAY people, goths...well, look at marilyn manson.

Now if Dave Mustaine was walking down the street next to Marilyn Manson, who would the cops pick up? Do you realize how dumb that point you tried to make was now?

np: Belphegor-Stigma Diabolicum

# Jul 28, 2008 @ 8:12 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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114. Dark_Funeral writes:

WAIT what about the russian girls who make that crazy a$$ techno music that plays at raves that makes me want to do the robot dance and such?

# Jul 28, 2008 @ 8:19 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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115. Kalis_wrath writes:

Dark funeral, I myself am percieved as goth. I wear all black, make up and such. So by the Russian standards would be banned due to my apperance, even though I listen to metal. Not every metaller looks like your avrage Joe or Jane.

# Jul 28, 2008 @ 8:24 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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116. psythe writes:

^But they should. Just my contention, I never felt the need to dress up for everyday life. There are those who wear their heart on their sleeve, those who cover their heart with their sleeve, and then there's the nudists :P


And those Russian rave chicks kick arse!

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# Jul 28, 2008 @ 10:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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117. fadetoblack writes:

well it sucks and all that ignorant polititians may not be able to tell the differences between a metal head an and emo or goth, but since this ridiculous law is being proposed in a country not remotely close to me, im not too fussed. but in all serriousness though there is no way they can fairly enforce this law. anyone wearing black will be targeted. its going to go way over the top.

it would be funny to see how they plan to define an emo in legislation.

sucks for russians though.

# Jul 29, 2008 @ 7:10 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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118. MetAL Micro Machine writes:

Lol are they gona ban metallers too? send swat teams in to a metallica concert and arrest anyone in black ?

# Jul 29, 2008 @ 10:50 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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119. emoisjokesbutiloveit writes:

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA, banning emo is so jokes.
I mean, whatever emo is considered i love and hate it at the same time.
But people getting so agrivated over it just makes me LOL.
ahhh, god i love stupid government

# Jul 29, 2008 @ 5:55 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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120. Anti-emo writes:

I love Russia hahahahahahahahahhahahaaaaaaaaaaaa f*** emos

# Jul 29, 2008 @ 8:41 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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121. def jaguar writes:

yay emos are just an excuse for guys to act like girls finally they are banning them

# Aug 18, 2008 @ 5:43 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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122. Dork writes:

Pretty cool... Now, can USA ban Nu-Metal?

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