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Ex-Korn Guitarist Brian "Head" Welch Announces Album Release Date

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Former Korn guitarist Brian "Head" Welch has announced that his debut solo album "Save Me From Myself" will be released on September 9th. The albums first single, entitled "Flush", will be available on iTunes on July 8th.

The album takes its name from Welch's book "Save Me From Myself: How I Found God, Quit Korn, Kicked Drugs And Lived To Tell The Story", which chronicles his famous conversion to Christianity and departure from the band. The album also contains the song "A Cheap Name" which is a lyrical attack on rapper 50 Cent. In an interview with CNN, Welch said "I'm not saying I'm better than him, I'm saying that God is telling me something and God is telling me something to tell you, I'm the translator. You can listen if you want but things are gonna happen."

Brian Welch is planning a major tour and all profits from the album will be donated to "Help Indian children get to know God."

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1. CrawfordTexasJingoJango writes:

Tour bus flip

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2. fuckmehard87 writes:

everyone can kiss my d*** off

i hate you all

f***!

# Jun 6, 2008 @ 12:02 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. broken face writes:

briain brian brian so u ave gone mad

# Jun 6, 2008 @ 12:39 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. grimreality writes:

to "Help Indian children get to know God."
ha they already know god, just not your god dumbass

# Jun 6, 2008 @ 1:38 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. Diamond Oz writes:

I have a serious problem with him donating the money for Christian benefits in India personally. They don't need churches and bibles, they need shelters, food and basic things that we take for granted, not ideology.

# Jun 6, 2008 @ 1:38 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. coldiem writes:

You're right Oz, but his presumption is probably that God will provide them with that. Enlightenment through ignorance. People that displaced from the Earth's real problems are too far gone to be helped or reasoned with anyway.

# Jun 6, 2008 @ 2:24 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. holyshit writes:

hell, i'm a christian and i think this is a bad idea. people in India are never gonna accept a different cultures religion. whatever, let the guy do what he wants. i aint gonna lose no sleep over it. i doubt his album will sell very well anyway. and coldiem ur right, people gotta help themselves before even thinkin of bringin God into it.

# Jun 6, 2008 @ 2:38 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. Diamond Oz writes:

Actually a large number of Indians are Christians so I'm told. I respect people's right to believe in whatever they want but to think that setting something up for God to do, when you have the power to do it yourself, is just foolish.

# Jun 6, 2008 @ 3:03 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. Blindgreed1 writes:

Speak the word of god,
Shut your F#@&*%g Mouth...

Clyde Graves - 1998.

# Jun 6, 2008 @ 3:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. saadesigner07 writes:

you guys don't know what your talking about. people are saying he should provide them with shelter and food instead......he already does that. Head has built multiple homes for kids and even cooks for them HIMSELF he has farms over there. Not to mention he as adopted over 100 indian children. I don't see any of you helping anybody. He is taking his money earned and giving it to someone who needs it. You people are sitting behind a key board bashing someone for doing something you don't have the heart to do. Seriously you need to think about how stupid you people sound. I understand that some people don't like the god thing, and i'm not religious at all, but don't talk sh** because somebody else is actually DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

# Jun 6, 2008 @ 3:54 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. Fuck A Name writes:

Ok Fine! Since I too am a millionaire, instead of a lower-middle class citizen just trying to get by in this f***ery of an economy, I will go over there adopt a few hundred Indian children and teach them about God. Thanks for opening my eyes and not letting me waste my time with my silly "opinion". I mean, What the hell do I know about the world, or social injustices? After all, i've never been a member of a famous rock band, or done heroin, or found God, so what the f*** does MY point of view matter? Silly me, opinions are for people who lie to themselves! (said in the tone of the Trix cereal commercial)

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# Jun 6, 2008 @ 4:15 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. coldiem writes:

How is it any different than you sitting behind a keyboard bashing us for stating our opinions? This is a place for opinions, not saving the world.

The whole point of our comments (or my comments, at least) is that his donating money to help Indian children to get to know God is not "DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT", and they have nothing to do with any of his other efforts.

I think it's great that he has built a home for and adopted over 200 Indian children, but how many millions more are there that need help? The bottom line is getting to know God is not going to feed the hungry or put a roof over the heads of those who need it. The money is better spent elsewhere.

# Jun 6, 2008 @ 4:34 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. the 13th writes:

"God is telling me something to tell you, I'm the translator."

Spent too much time in Hollywood and addicted to drugs.

# Jun 6, 2008 @ 4:48 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. xFiruath writes:

"I'm saying that God is telling me something and God is telling me something to tell you, I'm the translator"

He believes that a big invisible man in the sky is whispering secrets in his ear and that he needs to translate these secrets to other famous people. The phrase "mentally ill" comes to mind...

# Jun 6, 2008 @ 5:02 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. broken face writes:

Amen my brothers. i luv jesus i luvvvvvv jesus n jesus loves me you know why?. Because jesus loves all his children even the mentally retarded ones like me n brian, an i wanna spread the word of the lord all over your asses. amen my brothers amen.
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# Jun 6, 2008 @ 5:57 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. kk writes:

the previews on his labels sight actually sound somewhat decent if you want to look at them look up driven music group and theres previews

# Jun 6, 2008 @ 9:13 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. psythe writes:

He's a complete nutcase, looks like we all agree on that. Have you guys listened to his music though? Apart from the obvious lyrical devotion to Big Guns Upstairs, it's actually not half bad.

As for India, it's got its own traditional religion. And it's right next-door to the Middle East. And Mumbai is directly connected to Europe. Let's be honest here, there isn't a religion on Earth that isn't already somewhere in India, hahah. Well, except maybe the Native American Indian tradition, and deep Amizon tribal religions, I guess, hahah. But I'm pretty sure anything major is there. Hell, even Africa has it's own little niche carved out!

# Jun 6, 2008 @ 9:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. psythe writes:

Oh, and I highly doubt the Native Australian Aboriginal tradition has found its way there, but I think my point remains. India has all the Gods it needs. Probably more, in fact.

# Jun 6, 2008 @ 9:46 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. D writes:

who gives a damn what he's gona do with the money... its sure as hell not going to any of us so it really doesnt matter

# Jun 6, 2008 @ 10:53 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. Kali writes:

I am a Satanist, I believe that is all I need say regarding charity.

# Jun 6, 2008 @ 11:12 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. psythe writes:

^^ (snorts) If you were starving, wealthless, and living in a slum, I highly doubt you'd feel the same way. It's easy to say "I'm a satanist" when you live in comfortable conditions. Try getting the malnutritioned, slave-laboured, poverty-stricken children to share your views. Sorry, but for me, being a Satanist doesn't mean you have to be a selfish prick too. Not that I'm Christian or anything- far from it. I guess I just value life a little more than some.

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# Jun 6, 2008 @ 11:40 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. Kali writes:

A Satanist would not let themself get in that sort of position. I am not a selfish woman, I take care of those who DESERVE it, my friends and my loved ones. I truly (and dont care what anyone thinks) dont give two flying f***s about charity.

# Jun 7, 2008 @ 12:06 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. psythe writes:

Not everyone comes to that sort of situation by wasting their money on booze and gambling, you know. Many people are born to it. Tell me they don't deserve help. Tell me they deserve to be less fortunate than you. All I'm hearing here is an inability to put oneself in another's shoes. That's pretty much the definition of immaturity. There are babies starving, born to starving parents who were once starving babies themselves - and that's supposed to be their own fault? They deserve that? They don't deserve to have the same chances, opportunities and comforts that most in the Western world are born to? Yeah, not selfish at all...

# Jun 7, 2008 @ 12:45 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. psythe writes:

I don't mean to be overly harsh here, or personal - you're a cool chick, Kali, and I actually have nothing against you. I just get a bit upset about needless suffering. And especially about people being apathetic about it. No hard feelings, nothing against you, you understand.

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# Jun 7, 2008 @ 12:49 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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25. Public Execution writes:

I am actually kind of curious to hear this album, to see what kind of musical direction he will go with this.

# Jun 7, 2008 @ 1:04 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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26. Kali writes:

Psythe, no hard feelings taken. I dont care if someone else does the charity deal. If it helps someone feel better then whatever. My whole deal is that I think people should be more in control of their destany and do what they can with what they have and strive for better. I see too many people who suck charities dry and I would rather take care of those who show me they want bettter... not beg me or harass me on the street or what have you. I have more respect for those who over come obsticles on their own.

# Jun 7, 2008 @ 1:40 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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27. Kali writes:

I would also like to add that when it comes to children I believe that parents should be 110 percent responsible for their offspring. I did not get born into parents who were well off, in fact they were not doing so well in the money department. Instead of turning to charity my parents pulled out all the stops to ensure that me and my sister were fed and clothed. My parents went to school, worked and raised the both of us FULL time. If they can do it so can anyone else!

# Jun 7, 2008 @ 2:26 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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28. Kali AGAIN writes:

Psythe, I think you are a cool dude too. Oddly enough my old rickety phone I used to post from did not show me who the mods were and nor did I pay attention to who wrote the articles and was surprized you were a mod. Samd with RM? and a few others.

# Jun 7, 2008 @ 2:38 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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29. b.bristowe writes:

I could give two sh** about Christianity. A phrase comes to mind when I think of such things. Somewhere along the lines of "f*** OFF a$$holes" comes to mind. Everyone knows as History has taught us, Christianity was created in order to control the peons that littered the land during the first 20 centuries. Unfortunately now the world is opening its eyes and is discovering the lies behind it all. (BTW [if i had to choose]I support Buddhism and Satanism most because of the free will both gives)

Another note, I had a visit from a man in the military who is currently stationed in Afghanistan at the moment. He shared an insight into the situations concerning "Operation Freedom" or so some call it over in the Middle East. The joint forces (not sure who all is in the band wagon) are over there building schools, shelter and providing aid for those in need. All the while trying to spread Christianity to those who don't support it or need it. America etc. feels it is there civic duty to relieve these people of the harsh situations they are living in. However they are missing the point where it is none of their business to intervene with the fundamentalists Muslim beliefs. Their way may seem cruel to us, but thats because of the free will we are given. “Existence precedes consciousness.” Social context takes precedence over innate behavior; or, in other words, one of the main features of human nature is adaptability. Their problems will solve themselves whether it be by peaceful coexistence or brutal bloodshed. As long as they carry their beliefs nothing will change, and so it has been for the last 2000+ years.
"Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself."
While I am ranting, I might as well give and insight as to what is going on in India. At the rate the U.S.A. economy is slowing and the rate in which India's economy is skyrocketing, at the projected rate, India will be caught up to the United States by the year 2060. Shortly before it, in 2040, the Chinese will have reached the same height as the U.S. Unfortunately, this means there will be 3 world powers within the next century. Have fun while you can, the future holds no glory.

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30. b.bristowe writes:

While speaking about human nature. The recent discovery of yet another indigenous tribe in Brazil is a hot debate. What do you think should be done about this?

# Jun 7, 2008 @ 3:27 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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31. b.bristowe...again.... writes:

ok, not what should be done. but, How should it be treated?

# Jun 7, 2008 @ 3:28 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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32. psythe writes:

Leave 'em alone and let 'em live, I reckon.

# Jun 7, 2008 @ 4:56 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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33. JeZus I Am, to prove it Cassandra writes:

i am so glad to be back on top of my game.

# Jun 7, 2008 @ 8:46 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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34. come and get me fuckin cunts writes:

everyone can kiss my d*** off

i hate you all

f***!

# Jun 7, 2008 @ 8:51 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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35. Captain Hook writes:

Spoil Sport

# Jun 7, 2008 @ 8:55 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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36. saadesigner07 writes:

the music sounds good, kinda has a korn sound actually. (which makes sense) there are samples on the driven music website.

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37. come and get me fuckin cunts writes:

I apologize deeply for what said on Saturday
I was actually high on some ecstasy I had found under the sofa and put in a blender
The only reason I said that was because I crave attention - I just want people to notice me
I'm a sex slave, my master doesnt even notice me when he's doing coke off my back

# Jun 9, 2008 @ 5:38 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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38. xSlipknotxMaggotx writes:

I find it funny how people base their lives around god like Brian. His life may be "better" now, but when he dies, and finds out that he isn't going to float up to a better place, and is just going to rot in the dirt, his life won't be so great, and he will wish he stayed in Korn.
But that's just my opinion, who knows...Maybe I'll be dissapointed and end up floating off to some place that I don't want to go to.

# Jun 10, 2008 @ 9:10 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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39. A scene kids Nightmare writes:

And would you please care to explain to me why it matters if he finds out that Heaven does or does not exist?

Why can people simply not leave the man alone and let him find his inner peace? Why is it that we respect people and say that they have found wisdom when they convert to Buddhism or Islam, yet when they convert to Christianity we (you) call them stupid for believing such a thing?

To each man is his own and to each man there is owed some inner peace. There is no need to simply hate the man for (in theory) finding himself and discovering himself. You say that he was himself and then he went batsh** crazy... Maybe he wasn't who he was supposed to come and you just never realized it?

Your so f***ing sophomoric that it's not funny. Shut the f*** up and let him believe what he wants to believe. You can keep to your hopeless cradle of atheism and leave other people alone.

# Jun 14, 2008 @ 1:39 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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40. Kalis_wrath writes:

WOAH! Nightmare, I am a Satanist and would much rather someone find peace in the xtian religion that those f***ing psyco Islamic or Muslims! Those idiots just need be nuked!

# Jun 14, 2008 @ 1:58 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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41. b.bristowe writes:

typical american....

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42. Red_Chord writes:

Oh shut up with your typical american, I am canadian and I think they should get nuked as well. f***ing extremist idiots.

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43. kk writes:

so yea about the music lol

# Jun 14, 2008 @ 9:59 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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44. psythe writes:

^^hear, hear.

Oh, and by the way, the faith is Islam, the people Muslim. A lot of - in fact, I would say most - Muslims are considerably wiser, in my opinion, than anyone of the Christian faith. I would also say that they are a more poetic, reflective and less dangerous people than the Christians. Let's face the facts here - it's the Western military forces in THEIR countries, not the other way around. We arm them, bomb them, shoot them, and then get righteously angry when they try to fight back with the little weaponry they have? One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. If we left them alone, and only interfered by offering financial aid in times of crisis and such, they'd probably continue to blow each other up for a while. But could they continue to blame Western cultures and societies for their plight? If the Christians weren't so vindictive about democracy (and that's a whole other debate in itself), maybe the world would know peace. Hell, I say if we're gonna be stupid enough to use nuclear weaponry, we should nuke the Christians, they're the real 'f***ing psyco's and terrorists. Particularly the ones with governmental positions and persuasions.

# Jun 14, 2008 @ 10:01 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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45. psythe writes:

Whoops, "hear, hear" meant for post 41

# Jun 14, 2008 @ 10:02 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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46. bananaterracottapie writes:

psythe, that was one heck of a post! At least someone is being reasonable here, I mean you cannot blame the entire muslim community for what a few extremist ignorant bastards do. That is just unabashed stereotyping. Unnacceptable and ignorant.

# Jun 14, 2008 @ 12:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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47. b.bristowe writes:

Well I retract my statement about "the typical american". No offence, but that is the general stereotype that the U.S. is given. I talked to a few people in the U.K when I was there and it is the same emotional response.

The people the U.S. is out to kill are the extremists. They are the ones that live by the fundamentalist ways. Burning down the schools etc. to prevent knew knowledge (other than the knowledge handed down) from spreading.

# Jun 14, 2008 @ 12:24 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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48. bananaterracottapie writes:

As much as I feel that the satanic principles are quite sensible and easy to follow, the idea of worshipping the devil is kinda lame and childish. But to each his own and I really dig satanic black metal. Its just that when people keep saying "Im a satanist, Im a satanist" it sorta sounds like theyre seeking attention. Just my impression, no offence :)

# Jun 14, 2008 @ 12:36 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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49. Kalis_wrath writes:

I do say this out of love Psythe, but would you remove your head from your arse? Have you ever taken time to really delve into their dogma and practices historicly? They were killing "infadels" since day one! Furthermore I as a woman cant respect a religion that does not allow females to educate themselfs, forces them to wear a burqa no matter how hot it is and if they take it off kill them, not even let them out of the house without escort and that is just the tip of the ice pick. I dont give a sh** if my hatred towards dirt heads makes me a "typical American," and if it does then Satan bless America!

# Jun 14, 2008 @ 3:14 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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50. cruor writes:

Another theological discussion? To quote South Park "One answer is fine, in the hands of rational people". Personally I don't give a fvck if your satanist, christian, atheist, muslim, wicca, norse pagan, budhist, druidist, etc. as long as you dont force your beliefs down my throat, that is just not rational.

Both sides (christians and muslims) are both intolerant and extremists. Atleast the muslims appear not to be denying it. I will say no more on this subject (atleast in this thread).

# Jun 14, 2008 @ 3:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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51. Fuck A Name writes:

Norse Pagan, holla!

Islam is a sound idea, they actually preach quite a bit a bout peace in the Koran, the bit of violence they are supposed to use is just to raise the youth up right and punish criminals. Unfortuantely, very few religions actually follow their respective "good books" to the letter. (didn't Jesus say that he didn't want a religion founded around him? hmmm, whatever...) Even Buddhism has it's terrorists, and the most basic rule of that religion is not to hurt anybody or anything! Alot of people like to blame wars and violence on religion, but really, it's just people. Religion just ends up being the societal scapegoat for them to ride on half the time. Other than that, I'm pretty much with Cruor on this one.

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# Jun 14, 2008 @ 3:37 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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52. b.bristowe writes:

Well, in all fairness Kali, if you are the satanist you say you are, your not quite following the rules accordingly are you?

"Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked"

"Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself"

# Jun 14, 2008 @ 4:26 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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53. psythe writes:

hahah, but Kali, my arse is the perfect hat :P

On a more serious note, please don't tell me to take time to delve into the history of a nation or religion and then argue your point using absolutely no historical references whatsoever. "Day 1" doesn't cut it, I'm afraid. And I believe you'll find that "Day 1" began with the British invading the Middle East, not the Muslims invading Britain.

Oh, and if you actually went to the Middle East, I'm certain you'd find, particularly in the youth, that many of the people there are embracing towards sentiments of change and advancement - Lebanon has nightclubs where the girls wear mini-skirts. Yes, there are the fundamentalists. But my guess is that they are mostly the older generations and their young that havn't broken away from time-worn ideals, restricted to localised areas, something of a dying breed. And where are the fundamentalists in the US? Been to the White House lately? The Republican party might as well change its name to The Party For The Reunification of Church And State.

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# Jun 14, 2008 @ 11:07 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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54. bananaterracottapie writes:

Yeah, the muslim religion is kinda screwed up , but look at christianity with all it's molestation scandals and corporal punishment procedures. And hey Kali, while youre dissing islam, the world out there is calling satanists "those pseudo-intellectual homicidal maniacs". What goes around, comes around. Agnosticism is my preferred choice.

# Jun 14, 2008 @ 11:30 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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55. psythe writes:

hahah, I like the 'pseudo-' twist. Satanism: the smart choice for people too stupid to understand true intellectualism. (shrugs) Whatever, man, it's your beliefs and you have to live with them, I'm gonna continue to enjoy the better parts of all religions. I think I'm done with this debate thread.

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# Jun 14, 2008 @ 11:53 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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56. Kalis_wrath writes:

B.bristowe, I am not a LaVey Satanist. In fact I am rather angry at The Church of Satan. I am a Spiritual Satanist.

Psythe, my appoligies for sounding rude. Not to make excuses, but my family is stressing me out.
My point is that I find that the Muslim religion to be a bass ackwards faith. I wont deny the corruptions of even my own religouse "breathren," but you dont find them strapping bombs to their chest and blowing up innocent lives. Anyway, much like bars music message boards really are not the place to discuss religion.

# Jun 15, 2008 @ 1:21 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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57. b.bristowe writes:

my apologies then kalis. No hard feelings k?

besides that, its not the majority of islamic people that are nuts. Just the fundamentalists that believe it should be the way it is. Psythe has got it bang on. They are a dieing breed. Which is why they are trying to spread word to the younger generations. It is how it has worked for the last hundreds of years.

# Jun 15, 2008 @ 4:35 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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58. Kalis_wrath writes:

No hard feelings B.Bristowe. You did not know what kind of Satanist I am. The only things that I like about LaVeys Satanic Church is; dont do illegal activities, dont harm children, dont attack an animal unless attacked or for food, and dont be stupid. I am not sure if you all want to hear my rant as to why I hate the Church of Satan, but will say that it has everything to do with its current clergy. As far as the Muslims go have said my peace. To those who are not fundamentalist kuddos!

# Jun 15, 2008 @ 4:52 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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59. A scene kids Nightmare writes:

The current problem with Islam in the Middle East has to do with extremists claiming that the West is barbaric and wants to take over their religion, countries, etc. Now, the war in Iraq has absolutely nothing to do with religion... And how one can decipher "oh, well since we are a Christian nation (it's undeniable that most of the citizens in the U.S. are Christians and most hold Christian values dearly) and we have troops in other countries because we are pushing democracy, that we (Christians) are all of the sudden the cause for violence in the Middle East.

Yes, we may very well be in a foreign country and pushing democracy, but that does not make an excuse for killing our troops. Why in God's blazes would anyone say that? As I am sure you very well know, killing people simply because they're in your country is no excuse. Extremists are the ones advocating the killing of American troops... No serious Christian would ever advocate the killing of people simply because they were in the U.S. or because they were pushing their values. No Christian who has read The Bible and follows God's word whole heartedly would ever advocate such a thing.

U.S. troops are never provoking an attack... They are being attacked. More than 50% of the Muslims in the Middle East do not see a problem with this. Iraq, Iran, Egypt, Jordan. There has been extensive research and polling, and the majority of Muslims in the Middle East are apathetic that their fellow faithful are advocating mass genocide against an entirely different culture.

It is called tolerance my dear friend, and to be honest with you, Muslims in the Middle East are much less tolerant than their fellow religious counterparts here in the United States.

# Jun 15, 2008 @ 5:49 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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60. A scene kids Nightmare writes:

I think I've read some stuff about the Church of Satan and have heard that there are "Satanist" values, but that there is no actual belief in Satan. Any truth to that?

# Jun 15, 2008 @ 5:51 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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61. A scene kids Nightmare writes:

Sorry for the triple post... Let me go back to post 59.

I think it's undeniable that we are provoking Islamic extremists simply because we are occupying Islamic dominated states, but as Kalis said previously, most of the Islamic extremists believe in fundamentalist Islam... Which is thought by many people of the Muslim faith to be a more accurate way that their faith should be offered... There isn't much room for interpretation. But most people of the Islamic faith in Western Civilization do not believe that simply because it is more accurate that is okay to advocate killing people.

That seriously has to make you think about whether or not it's a peaceful religion if you have to cease action upon your religious values for the good of humanity.

Christianity, unlike Islam, offers room for interpretation and things simply as "stone all adulterers" were meant to be interpreted and can be fairly easily understood if you know anything about how Jewish laws were followed before Jesus Christ, and how The Bible established the laws for Christianity and followers of Christ.

Simply put... Old laws were before Christ and were strict for the time and for the people. New laws were meant for interpretation.

Okay... I'm beginning to feel like a religious nut. But I say what I feel must be said.

# Jun 15, 2008 @ 6:06 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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62. Kalis_wrath writes:

Nightmare, to answer your question in post #60; yes. CoS members dont actually believe in Satan as a diety, but as a symbol. The Hebrew translation of Satan means "adversary" or "accuser."

# Jun 15, 2008 @ 3:48 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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63. psythe writes:

^I love that the word 'Lucifer' means 'Bringer of Light' - I find that hilariously ironic, hahah. The Prince of Darkness, Bringer of Light... lol well, which is it?

Hmmm - in regards to post 59, I'm not saying that Christians are the cause of violence in the Middle East. I'd be wrong if I did. But they are perpetuating it. And if the troops weren't in the Middle East in the first place, they wouldn't be getting shot at. You occupy another country, you gotta expect a bit of resistance. If so much of the population doesn't mind democracy being pushed on them, then it is likely that, if left alone, a state of democracy will likely eventuate in any case. No need to send troops to get shot at.

"things simply as "stone all adulterers" were meant to be interpreted" - I wouldn't say they were meant to be interpreted. I would definitely say they were, but whether they were meant to when written, I doubt. That would be like the parliament passing a law and then saying "but hey, take that whatever way you want".

You know, there are Christians for stronger nuclear armament... THAT is backwards, man. Maybe the problem is not that Islam is too strict, but that Christianity is too flexible. I mean, stronger nuclear armament, what sort of interpretation is that? 'Love your neighbour, as long as you can keep him at bay'? 'Love your neighbour, but make sure he knows his place'? 'Love your neighbour if his values match yours'?

I dunno, man, you can argue about religion and state forever and you'll never reach a conclusion. Kali said it, there are much more appropriate things to discuss here.

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# Jun 15, 2008 @ 7:41 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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64. psythe writes:

And further to that last note, how stupid is the title for Head's book! "Save Me From Myself: How I Found God, Quit Korn, Kicked Drugs And Lived To Tell The Story" - That should be the back cover blurb, not the damn title!

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# Jun 15, 2008 @ 7:45 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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65. Kalis_wrath writes:

I cant remember which Watain song on "Sworn to the dark," but one of them says "the brightest light casts the darkest shadow." I think it was in referance to Lucifer.

Hahaha! Psythe, I agree fully with how the title and back blurb should be.

# Jun 15, 2008 @ 8:20 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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66. Kalis_wrath writes:

Whoops! *is, but one of them...

# Jun 15, 2008 @ 8:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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67. xSlipknotxMaggotx writes:

I think it's great the guy found god and is leading a better life than he was before.
I just think it's stupid how he had to stop everything he use to do, for god.

# Jun 16, 2008 @ 9:32 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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68. darenloster writes:

WHOAH.....i can see by reading most of these comments that north america needs the Gospel more than India :-(

# Jun 16, 2008 @ 2:58 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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69. cruor writes:

"I love that the word 'Lucifer' means 'Bringer of Light' - I find that hilariously ironic, hahah. The Prince of Darkness, Bringer of Light... lol well, which is it?"

Before his rebellion against God, Lucifer (as he was called than) was the brightest (used in both ways as it pertains to intelligence and his luster) and most beautiful of everything angelic. His power was 2nd only to God himself. He became full of pride (which according to the bible is the most deadly of the 7 deadly sins), decided what he had wasn't enough and gathered 1/3 of heaven's forces to rise against God and take his place. He failed and was cast out and placed into hell, and as Kali stated he began being called satan which is hebrew for "the enemy" and his goal became to pervert god's agenda, and if god represents light than in that aspect it is safe to say that Satan represents darkness and since Jesus is called the "prince of peace" than it is only fitting to refer to Satan as the "prince of darkness".

# Jun 16, 2008 @ 6:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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70. cruor writes:

"I just think it's stupid how he had to stop everything he use to do, for god."

He was trying to stop before he found god but he used god as his crutch to help him kick drugs and alcohol, and I believe that the rest of Korn wasn't too thrilled about his conversion and he left because they didn't accept them.

# Jun 16, 2008 @ 6:37 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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71. psythe writes:

lol @ post 68

Thanks cruor, I knew all that, but nice to have it confirmed. What was 'Lucifer's angelic name, though, I can't remember? Michael? Samael? Can't quite pick it...

# Jun 16, 2008 @ 8:29 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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72. Kalis_wrath writes:

And if you really begin to go deeper he (Lucifer) is still the bringer of light. With the truth (being the light) there is is the dark underbelly OF the truth.

# Jun 16, 2008 @ 9:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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73. HuTcH_616 writes:

"WHOAH.....i can see by reading most of these comments that north america needs the Gospel more than India :-("

That's the last thing North American needs, more people like the ones that b**** too much like those f***ers in California.
What we all need to realize is that Christianity is full of hypocrisy and Satanism is the way to go.

# Jun 17, 2008 @ 7:38 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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74. Jamez writes:

Nah, man. Each to his/her own. Whatever make you tick and happy. Not an easy thing to do and to be in our world these days. 'The Trick Is To Keep Breathing...' (oops! I just revealed Ive got 2.0 by Garbage...ouch)

# Jun 17, 2008 @ 8:03 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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75. darenloster writes:

Hi HuTch_616.....Actually i disagree...True Christianity (in contrast to false christianity such as roman catholicism) is not hypocritical - men are hypocrital. I can understand your anger towards christianity because there are men who have crept in unaware who have perverted the Truth of God. 1 John 2:18,19 says that the Antichrist comes from WITHIN christianity and NOT from without. So indeed, there is alot wrong coming from within christianity. Satan is working from WITHIN christianity (2corinthians 11:13-15) BUT, friend, don't let that stop you in believing the gospel of Jesus Christ. Whether we agree or not we all have an appointment with death and judgment (hebrews 9:27) so don't you think it's a wise decision to get right with God ? We need to repent from our sins and turn to Jesus (romans 3:23, 5:8, 6:23) it is the ONLY WAY (john 14:6)

# Jun 17, 2008 @ 1:00 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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76. cruor writes:

Psythe, Lucifer was his angelic name but now he is refered to as Satan. Michael is an archangel in heaven and I believe him to be the angel who replaced Lucifer, he lead the angels who remained loyal to god against Satan, this is because Michael was the first angel to refuse Satan's offer to join his rebellion. Samael, I'm not sure other than he was one of the angels who joined Satan. I believe that Samael is the angel of death.

# Jun 17, 2008 @ 2:56 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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77. cruor writes:

By the way Kali that puts a very interesting spin on the whole subject.

# Jun 17, 2008 @ 2:57 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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78. b.bristowe writes:

Hi darenloster, to quote a very famous post 74.
"Nah, man. Each to his/her own."

I'm not picking on Christianity alone, religion in general. Something bothers me about living my life try to impress someone.

Although religion isn't all bad. In general, it has a good message. I mean our entire world is based on the 10 commandments. At least our justice system is. The way I have always seen Christianity though is/was a way to control people. ex: Back when the church was more powerful than the king, it was a way to control all the peasants. When you looked at the social hierarchy the peasants made up about 80% of the population. So why not introduce something to scare that 80% into follow the church/lord of the land. Pay your tithe to the church? Come on!!!

(My views, not pointing directly at anyone here but I was curious if anyone felt the same)

# Jun 17, 2008 @ 2:58 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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79. BLACKDOG writes:

Damn !!! Thing's have gotten INTENSE in my absence.

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