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Christian Black Metal Documentary In The Works

According to Christian Metal News, a new black metal documentary, entitled Light in Darkness - Nemesis Divina, is currently in the works. However, what separates this documentary from countless others that have explored black metal's controversial aspects is that the focus is not on the satanic spectra of the genre, but the opposite - the Christian concept of black metal. Producer Stefan Rydehed, who recently finished completed work on the Pure Fucking Mayhem documentary, which focused on the Norwegian black metal band MAYHEM, and David Nilsson have set their sights on the Scandinavian Christian scene, with particular focus on such bands as CRIMSON MOONLIGHT, ADMONISH and FROSTHARDR.

Rydehed comments: "The topic is very interesting because the genre has a major contradiction because it has evolved from the Satanic black metal and there have been death threats, church arsons, murders and so on but never have there been a documentary about the Christian bands and their point of view of the music genre."

A trailer of this documentary is available below:

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1. zarathustra writes:

Why is it called "black metal" instead of "white metal" (white light). If anybody has heard this type of music does it sound like U2, Stryper, Creed, or The Who?

Keep Black metal Black

# Mar 21, 2008 @ 6:53 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. Jomama writes:

I don't particularly like black metal, but when I first heard about "Christian black metal", I laughed my a$$ off because I thought it was a joke. As it turns out, it's true, but it doesn't make sense to me. It's an oxymoron. How can it be "black" and "crhistian" at the same time? I guess I should keep an open mind, but what are they singing about? Jesus rising from the dead on Easter and going to mass on Palm Sunday. What metal sign are they making with thier hands? Certainly not the devil horns, that's not Christian? Enlighten me!

# Mar 21, 2008 @ 9:08 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. deathbringer writes:

Despite the connotation of the name black metal, it is in the end a subgenre descriptive of the music moreso than the topic, unlike Viking metal, for example, which encompasses more than one style of music.

# Mar 21, 2008 @ 9:24 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. Red_Chord writes:

That post is going to be interesting becausee will get all kind of ignorant fools and Christian haters that will say that Christians do not belong there, what could they be talking about blah blah blah...well just like the first 2 posts basically.

About the horns, it's not really the Devil horns, it use to be a sign that people did to to conjure evil : Ronnie James Dio is known for popularizing the corna sign in heavy metal. His Italian grandmother used it to ward off the evil eye (malocchio or moloch as Dio calls it). Dio began using the sign soon after joining (1979) the metal band Black Sabbath. The previous singer in the band, Ozzy Osbourne, was rather well known at using the "peace" sign at concerts, raising the index and middle finger in the form of a V. Dio, in an attempt to connect with the fans, wanted to similarly use a hand gesture. However, not wanting to copy Osbourne, he chose to use the sign his grandmother always made.
And also : When confronted with unfortunate events, or just when these are mentioned or suggested, a person wanting to avoid that fate could resort to the corna to ward off bad luck. It is a more vulgar equivalent of knocking on wood. Interestingly, superstitious ones can alternatively "touch iron" (tocca ferro) or touch his nose, which are not considered as vulgar alternatives, or grab their testicles (the left one with the right hand in Argentina, country very influenced by the Italian culture), which is considered very vulgar, but is perhaps the most commonplace of the three. All of these gestures are meant to somehow conjure some supernatural power to protect the performer of the gesture.

And if you would have listened to the trailer, the dude says that music, especially black metal can be use to either spread the word of Evil or the word of good. Nothing in there says that one type of music is just for evil or good. But hey, I just know that all the haters are going to show up anyways...

# Mar 21, 2008 @ 9:38 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. Jomama writes:

Thank you! You learn something new everyday. I am not a hater, I just didn't understand. Now, I get that black is more descriptive of the music than the topic. So you can have the black metal w/ whatever lyrics you like. I see. I always associated the term "black metal" with bands such as Mayhem. Which I don't agree with. So this is a good thing.

# Mar 21, 2008 @ 9:48 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. Jomama writes:

So, I have a question. Now that I am all enlightend and stuff. Is it possible to have a Christian Death Metal Band? Or is death metal and black metal relatively the same? If not, what is the difference. Metal 101 here.

# Mar 21, 2008 @ 9:52 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. darenloster writes:

Hi Red_Chord, I agree with you fully - that music is just a ''vehicule'' for a message - much like Alka seltzer wherby the ''water'' is a vehicule to dissolve, disperse and carry the active ingredients into our system. Surely what makes metal black or white is the message. I thought you would like to know that i've seen pictures of Gene Simmons since early 1974 doing the corna sign - He says that he copied it from ''spiderman'' as he would make that gesture to sling his web. Dio seems to be ticked off at simmons for this lolll.

# Mar 21, 2008 @ 10:25 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. Red_Chord writes:

Yeah it's actually a old feud between the 2 of them regarding this sign...a funny feud indeed but in my Book Gene Simmons is completely irrelevant anyways.And as far as death metal goes, you can be Hindu for what I care and make Death Metal, nothing is owned by satan worshippers or Chritians or martians. You just make a kind of music that fits into a genre and then you say wathever is on your mind...

# Mar 21, 2008 @ 10:48 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. SlugEmperor writes:

it's really not that hard to comprehend... it's just black metal sounding music with christian based lyrics or musicians possibly not even in the lyrics instead of the opposite. Now personally i doubt it would sound good because i rarely like black metal except on some occasions, but its really not funny or stupid to me its just not what i would listen to most likely.

# Mar 21, 2008 @ 10:59 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. Shoe Police writes:

It will be interesting to see how many black metal fans initially enjoy the music, and then discontinue listening to the music once they find out it's christian themed.

# Mar 21, 2008 @ 12:49 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. Kalis_wrath writes:

The only black metal that is a joke is nsbm. Xtian bm is in keeping with the bm taradition of preservation of heritage. I used to think xtian bm was a joke, but in delving deeper into the world of bm realized that just like the Norse and Satanic bm its all about heritage.

# Mar 21, 2008 @ 1:17 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. Bastard_Of_Bodom writes:

Besides doesn't black mean like freedom or something in westen culture or something like that??

# Mar 21, 2008 @ 1:25 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. AlliedFront676 writes:

I think the documentary looks like B.S, but the music is obviously for real. It still's annoys me when bands align their religion with the music they create, but i assume it can inspire them. I was raised a Catholic Christian, and Catholic's dont seem be making Catholic Christian bands. Its always the other branches of Christianity, allot of born again believers. I mean Tom Arya is a practicing Catholic i once read, but everyone knows what kind of music he brings to the masses. Their are so many muscians that follow an Abrahamic based religion that play metal and dont bring religion into the mix. My point is that i think Christian Metal regardless of the genre is f***ING BULLsh**!!!!!!!!!!

# Mar 21, 2008 @ 1:26 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. AlliedFront676 writes:

To second that i want to wish everyone a Happy f***ing Easter!!

# Mar 21, 2008 @ 1:29 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. GOD writes:

Im sure ill get bashed for this...but yeah, I f***ing HATE this christian "Black metal" genre....f*** off and find a different genre to explore....have you ever heard of Satanic gospel? NO! stay the f*** away from the dark music you worthless christian swine!

# Mar 21, 2008 @ 2:00 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. deathbringer writes:

Well, you are God, afterall, so the Christians should listen to you... But that is pretty close minded. No one is in any position to tell them to stay away from a certain type of music. Except God, of course. I stand corrected.

But seriously, I don't care if a band is Christian or not. If the music is good, it doesn't matter to me.

# Mar 21, 2008 @ 2:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. Txmetalhead writes:

To post one - no White Metal is aggressive, like Black Metal - except the content has to do with Christianity and positive things...rather than negative, dark, satanic lyrics. I could be wrong, of course.

# Mar 21, 2008 @ 2:38 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. Txmetalhead writes:

I believe Extol and Mortification are Christian Black or White Metal...I am almost positive that Extol - is.

# Mar 21, 2008 @ 2:45 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. Terminator writes:

i agree with deathbringer. if the music's good, what difference does the bands personal beliefs make. lyrics tell a story, whether true or not, if they're at least well written then i can get into it.

kalis also made an interesting point. never thought of it like that, but good call.

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# Mar 21, 2008 @ 2:45 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. Txmetalhead writes:

From my understanding, and reading several articles about Christian rock and metal bands....the bands possible intent is to penetrate the "darkness" through their Christian message and witness, or bring enlightment to the individual...therefore the band creates a black metal band to witness to the fans of true black metal...ones who they assume need to be saved by Christ or have alignment with Satan. The music continues to be heavy, similar to black metal. Is it that obvious, now, that I am a Christian, as well. I think Black Metal is bullsh1t - but it has a place in metal...therefore White Metal should have a place too. Personally, Black metal requires little skill...hell, my opinion, of course....since I can't shriek like a damn cat in heat over blast beats..lol. Black metal is my least favorite metal.

# Mar 21, 2008 @ 2:53 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. Txmetalhead writes:

A follow up to my last comment...the band may also just enjoy playing heavy metal or black metal. So Christian bands don't always have a blatant Christian message in their lyrics...it depends on the band and individuals in the band. I have heard some bands like Living Sacrifice who sound as heavy and intense as any secular metal band, that I know of.

# Mar 21, 2008 @ 3:04 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. DeathInEye writes:

So just to make sure I know, what classifies "black metal" musically. We'll leave lyrics out because clearly that's what's in question here. I'm asking because, to me, and I in now way claim to an expert on any genre simply because I find them close-minded and elitist, but I'm asking because it seems to me that when you take lyric content out of the question, black/doom/death metal begin to blur together. Please rave at my ignorance all you want...How I will learn. =)

# Mar 21, 2008 @ 3:09 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. LiquidMetal writes:

black metal really has nothing to do with satanism, but gospel on the other hand will always be christian. the only reason why black metal is a lot of times associated with antichristian music is because many antichristian bands choose their style of music to be black metal.

black metal is characterized by the use of fast tempos, high-pitched guitars often played with tremolo picking, high-pitched shrieking vocals, and unconventional song structures.

so there is a flaw in your post GOD. and christian bands dont necessarily have christian lyrics, maybe all the band members themselves are christian and that may be the only reason why they are considered a christian band.

# Mar 21, 2008 @ 3:25 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. Red_Chord writes:

To post 15 (GOD) Thanks for proving my point !!!

# Mar 21, 2008 @ 3:52 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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25. !!Nailgun!! writes:

All the haters/black metal elitists in the house think if you say f*** enough someone will get what you’re saying or take your suggestion into consideration? f*** no! So get a life ya friggin dolts!

# Mar 21, 2008 @ 9:02 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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26. Diamond Oz writes:

...... so long dental plan!

# Mar 21, 2008 @ 9:30 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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27. adrian writes:

Its stupid because black metal will all ways be evil not saying christians can't have heavy music but call it something else black metal is black metal.

# Mar 21, 2008 @ 10:03 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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28. adrian writes:

oh and to the Red Chord post the devil horns was the evil eye but your hand is different, the Italian curse is horizontal and the devil horns are vertical.

# Mar 21, 2008 @ 10:10 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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29. RememberMetal? writes:

Just another "outsider view of metal" documentary----Christian black metal.....

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wait a minute what?!?

I swear my first guess was that this was a Christian documentary ABOUT black metal....Not a documentary about Christian black metal......WTF?!??!?!?!?!?!....Christian black metal?!? That's like "life affirming" death metal....slow speed-metal, simple math-metal....Whether it can be done is one thing, whether it should is a whole other matter....To each their own, but this is a little hard to accept.....It's almost...blasphemous.

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# Mar 21, 2008 @ 10:14 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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30. DeathInEye writes:

I think you not only hit the nail on the head RememberMetal, but I think you rusted and drove it through these Christian Black Metalist's feet! To me it's a contradiction that can't be set straight. Some things in life are what they are. This is why I asked my question...I think the lyrical/ideological content makes black metal, black metal.

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31. Cynic writes:

Apparently Crimson Moonlight are quite good, I'll check them out when I get off dial-up. Guessing everything else is pretty generic though. Either way the premise is laughable. And the whole "Christianity can be hip!... you kids still say hip right?" thing will never stop being laughable.

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# Mar 22, 2008 @ 5:01 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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32. Red_Chord writes:

You guys are getting pathetic in your attempts to discredit everything that Chritians do. Who the heck decided that black metal was only for evil, Satan worshippers douchebags ? Because it has the word Black in it ? Because most of the bands playing this type of music are haters, Church burners, Bible tearers, Murderers ? A little common sense seems to be a good thing then. Maybe it could open up Kids to Black metal that would otherwise disregard it for it's intense criminal behavior.

And Cynic, I don't think it's about being hip at all. It's just that they like the sound of that music but they have a different message, that is all. What I should understand in these posts is that every type of metal, or Rock or wathever should be exclusive to wathever way of thinking and acting is dominant in the genre or it should at least fit with the name of the genre. So in your closed up world, a straight edge band could not play stoner rock, it just doesn't fit the name...presposterous !!!

# Mar 22, 2008 @ 9:08 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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33. darenloster writes:

Black metal and/or White metal musically speaking is ''Dark'' music. Satanists (or odinists, etc...) will exploit this ''darkness'' and use it for Evil or Evil worship. I realise that Christianity and Dark music on the surface seems to be a contradiction of terms because the Bible does say ''...And what fellowship has Light with Darkness ? '' (2cor.6:14b) but on the otherhand the Christian is to take ''....heed as a Light that shines in a dark place...'' (2pet.1:19) True Darkness is a state of being ''without God or Jesus'' who is the Light (john1:4). Mankind will try to hide themselves in this darkness away from the Light (john3:19,20). As Christians or ''Light bearers'' (mat.5:14) we are '' To give Light to those who sit in darkness...'' (luke1:79) - Jesus himself said '' Whatever I tell you in the dark, Speak in the Light...'' (mat.10:27) And this is where Christian Metal serves its purpose - i can't say that i am familiar with the LYRICS of these Christian extreme metal bands BUT if they bring the Gospel message as ''Light bearers'' to those who are sitting in the darkness then i say Praise the Lord ! But If a band claims to be christian but doesn't Shine its Light (without Gospel) then surely that particular band is a contradiction (eph.5:8-19)

# Mar 22, 2008 @ 10:42 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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34. Txmetalhead writes:

To post 23 - Very good man. Very thorough and informative. Thanks for correcting my statement on black metal.

# Mar 22, 2008 @ 3:27 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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35. Txmetalhead writes:

I read that Christian black metal bands have been labeled Unblack Metal or White metal. I agree the labels are rather stupid. I personally like the term - White Metal over unblack metal.

# Mar 22, 2008 @ 3:29 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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36. Txmetalhead writes:

TO post 33 - very good argument, as well. That was my intention - to explain why Christian's form black metal bands - to deliver their message "light" to those in the "darkness". I know it may seem hypocritical - but Christians are taught to witness to others as devotion to Jesus Christ. Don't worry, though, I don't judge those who love black metal, or satanists - I simply don't like black metal's sound.

# Mar 22, 2008 @ 3:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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37. RememberMetal? writes:

If a band with Christian values want to make music that has since it's inception, been a vehicle for dark and Satanist values go for it. Just remember where your inspiration came from...

The contradiction of the Christian message put to black metal music is in itself a very deliberate gimmick (admittedly, as is black metal or stoner metal's initial ideal) but because it is in diametric opposition to the original target audience, it seems uninspired...Not unlike some kid copying your test answers one desk over: "Hey, He seems to have the right idea, I'll just copy him and put MY name on it."

Remember that kid? This is him.

It seems to me that if a Christian band wanted to make music with most of black metals bells and whistles, boasting a message that is the polar opposite--they would be able to make enough alterations beyond the message to differentiate it as it's own unique beast, rather than merely be "Christian black metal".

I can accept Christian metal. Be it POD (heh) Stryper (heh x 2) or Zao (meh). I would just think that God's disciples would choose methods not rooted in such a polar opposite value system.

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38. Cynic writes:

Great post RM? What I meant Red_Chord was that it's just another way of injecting Jesus into every facet of society, even the most rebellious of youth movements. Maybe I should just start saying these things instead of using sarcasm haha.

Just personally I love Trouble and Believer, so lyrics are never a big deal to me if the music is there. Although saying that, I personally find anti-Christian lyrics appealing because I'm so abhorant of the faith.

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39. BLACKDOG writes:

Not quite sure what to make of this.

# Mar 22, 2008 @ 7:24 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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40. Red_Chord writes:

Hey Cynic it's not your fault if I never get your sarcasm. it's true man, your so subtle that I never see it. so I end up looking like a dumbass but that makes me laugh a lot..

For Rm?, when you have a message to deliver you don't deliver it to the ones who already got it, you convey it to the ones who didn't hear it, so it means going places where you have not been before...

# Mar 22, 2008 @ 7:32 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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41. psythe writes:

I'm with Deathbringer here - if the music's good, who cares what they're preaching. To be completely honest, I don't listen to what Satanistic Black Metal bands preach, I don't listen to what Death Metal bands like Cannibal Corpse preach, so I don't see why I should listen to what a White Black Metal band is preaching. If the music is good, I'll listen to that, but I'm not gonna go sacrifice a goat because such-and-such sings about it. And I'm not gonna give my heart to Jesus because la-di-da sings about it.

Still, it seems kind of contradictory, what with the Christian message and the doomsday/apocalyptic/eternal suffering atmosphere of Black Metal...

oh well.

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42. blood enima writes:

Repent for your sins. But if it blows you"re skirt up thats cool.

# Mar 22, 2008 @ 8:23 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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43. LiquidMetal writes:

"but I'm not gonna go sacrifice a goat because such-and-such sings about it"

haha, that sh*ts ancient no one does that these days. and if you ask me, the doomsday/apocalyptic/eternal suffering atmosphere goes well with christianity, well at least for the christians that like scaring people and condemning people into repenting.

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44. Kalis_wrath writes:

Interesting convo guys. I am enjoying reading your thoughts. Ones for and against have interesting things to say. This one I think I shall sit back and watch. *drinks her Jack and rootbeer*

# Mar 22, 2008 @ 11:57 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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45. Public Execution writes:

I think I am going to have to check out Crimson Moonlight now. I am very curious how someone could take the atmosphere of black metal and make the lyrics bring the message of Christ, and then make it sound good. If everybody in a band is Christian, but they do not sing Christian lyrics, I don't really think that could be labeled as Christian Black Metal. This is mostly because black metal itself is normally so blatantly anti-christian that for a band to deserve this title, their lyrics would have to be Christian-themed at the bare minimum.

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46. Andrew writes:

To all the closed minded fags who are talking smack about Christian Black Metal, why don't you listen to the bands of the genre firstbefore criticizing? I think people would be surprised at how good most of them are, it is just a newer genre. Mortification is Death Metal, and pretty good I might add, as far as good Christian Black Metal goes, check out Antestor, Horde, Frosthardr, Pantokrator, Frost Like Ashes, and Crimson Moonlight, besides them, there are very few CBM bands out there, but there will be more in the future and the talent will increase with that. And how gay is it to say that music has to have laws on what it contains thematically and how it sounds, isn't the whole point of metal rebellion anyways? CBM bands want to express their faith through heavy music, big deal, satanic bands express their faith in satan through their music, so what's the difference? In my opinion, you have to be a huge hypocrite fa**ot to segregate music because of the artist's beliefs.

# Mar 23, 2008 @ 4:59 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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47. psythe writes:

"the doomsday/apocalyptic/eternal suffering atmosphere goes well with christianity, well at least for the christians that like scaring people and condemning people into repenting"

In my eyes, scaring people and condemning people is not a Christian act. Nor is repenting because you're scared of being condemned a Christian act. Converting people by showing them love and trust, that holds true to my belief of what are the core values of Christianity. Repenting because you're truly disgusted with what you have done, that seems Christian. Scaring and condemning has nothing to do with "Love thy neighbour", if you follow my drift. And repenting because you don't want to be damned is akin to apologising because you don't want your mother to send you to your room.

"isn't the whole point of metal rebellion anyways?"

I wouldn't say so. Rebellion is for angsty teenagers. The whole point of metal, in the beginning, was something LIKE rebellion - a movement away from established theological beliefs and a denouncement of the power of such in society (or something along those sort of lines, at least) - but I don't think rebellion would be quite the right word. And besides, following your logic, Christian Black Metal would be seen as a rebellion against metal itself. Seems to me that by using what you're rebelling against, you simply become what you're rebelling against: another form of metal rebelling against metal? Seems contradictory. Like a Satanist becoming a Christian priest in order to preach against Christianity. Non sequitor.

That said, as I said before, if the music's good, who cares what they're preaching?

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48. Red_Chord writes:

Thanks Psythe, you show a lot of open mindness and that's the whole point some of us are trying to make. No genre is reserved for a way of thinking. It's just funny to see how many people are Christian haters on this site. You all know I am Christian and not ashamed of it at all but I show respect to different views, Satanists included.
That's the way I chose and I would just hope that the haters would try to understand a little bit...

# Mar 23, 2008 @ 7:53 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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49. LiquidMetal writes:

well psythe, you can condemn people and scare them and still love your neighbor. telling people theyre going to hell isnt an act of hatred. its whats in your heart that matters, not as much the outside action.

# Mar 23, 2008 @ 11:46 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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50. Diamond Oz writes:

Speaking of christian metal, I finally took your advice Kalis and checked out Living Sacrifice. I gotta say I can't see what the appeal is because I thought they were boring. Demon Hunter weren't bad though.

Overall I don't see a problem with religion and music mixing. Bands often spout their political views so why not religious too?

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51. SlugEmperor writes:

who's to say who's going to hell or heaven, any human attacking others with that threat has no right, but in warning it's different.

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52. blood enima writes:

Who is Five Iron Frenzy ?

# Mar 23, 2008 @ 3:28 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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53. Kalis_wrath writes:

Diamond, I just gave you the tool to check out their lyrics. I havent even heard them yet. I believe Deathbringer was the one talking them up, and I think a few other members. I honestly forgot to check them out. Hahahaha! I did take a read to their lyrics and found them to be a bit on the preachy side.

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54. pursuit of vikings writes:

"telling people theyre going to hell isnt an act of hatred." I completely disagree. If it isn't hate what is it? I also have Christian beliefs, and no individual can be told by another where they're going after they die. To quote Shadows Fall- "Eternity is Within".

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55. Diamond Oz writes:

Ah right sorry Kalis! But yeah I thought they were lame. Haven't looked the lyrics up yet. May do that in a minute actually.

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56. psythe writes:

" "telling people theyre going to hell isnt an act of hatred." I completely disagree. If it isn't hate what is it? "

I wouldn't call it hatred, but it certainly isn't love. I think (lounge-chair psychologist that I am) that it stems from a need for power more than anything else. It's an unconscious way of asserting one's domination over others. Particularly for men. The male psyche is overwhelmed with the need to be bigger, stronger, better than his peers. To be a better specimen for the females, I guess. For me, telling people that they're going to go to Hell unless they do as you insist is just another form of assuring yourself that you are better than your peers. Not love, but I wouldn't call it hate, either. Which is why I don't believe that you can condemn or scare someone out of love for them. It's your ego talking, not your heart. A Christian might say "the way you act, you should be scared you'll end up in Hell", whereas I would say to a loved one "with the way you're acting, I'm scared for you". Not much difference, but just enough to matter, I feel. The first is a kind of 'act like me or else' power trip. The second adheres more to 'I'm concerned about you because I care for you, and I really hope you know what you're doing and I'm completely wrong about all this'. Lounge-chair psychologist rant over :P

I was raised by a non-christian family, but went to christian schools, so I guess I'm here-and-there on a lot of this. There are parts of Christianity that appeal to me, and parts that repel me. Same with Black Metal- love some of the bands out there, but at the same time, corpsepaint? pfft! hahah :P

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57. Kalis_wrath writes:

Tis o.k Diamond. Not a big deal, just refreshing your memory.

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58. Coal Black Horses writes:

Hellhammer played session drums on an Antestor album. I'll bet he actually thinks the music is a joke just because it's Christian, amirite lol?!

Interestingly enough, most of the comments here against Christian black metal are entirely reactionary and clearly made by people who have never actually listened to any of the bands who consider themselves Christian black metal.

At any rate, not that this will ever stop being a point of contention for idiot, self-absorbed elitist wannabes to squabble over, I really don't see what the ideology behind music has anything to do with the quality of the music itself. Music is music, it can't be Christian or Satanic or whatever; the intent of those making the music really doesn't effect the final product in my book, and to those who make a big deal of that, I simply think you're being incredibly naïve. But wait, I feel such solidarity among my angry satanic brothers when we're all jamming to Black witchery together! Give me a break. I listen to music that is considered Christian, National Socialist, Satanic, Vegan, Jewish, etc. I listen to it because it's good music and it appeals to me. There are very few artists out there that actually have any significant appeal to me directly due to their ideological or lyrical content.

Not that this will really change anyone's mind. Hating religion is simply too trendy and cool to be gotten over.

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59. Kalis_wrath writes:

^So you listen to nsbm and say it appels to you. Does this mean that you are raceist? Just wondering, not to start a fight.

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60. metaljeff writes:

I dont think that i really care about so called "christian black metal" that is so stupid to do...seriously its like the christians are just trying to be "cool" or fit into a genre of music that hates them.

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61. AlliedFront676 writes:

Death in the name of God: Probally 200 million
Death in the name of Satan: Probally 500.
f*** OFF f***ing HYPOCRITES!!!666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666

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62. creeper writes:

it's the worst joke...

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63. LiquidMetal writes:

it would make more sense if post 61 referred to Allah, no offense to anyone.

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64. psythe writes:

You mean in place of 'God'? If so, I would say that Middle-eastern terrorists have killed more people in the name of Allah than Christians have in the name of God IN RECENT YEARS. If the media is telling us the truth, that is (don't you just love how conspiracies breed conspiracies?). Over the course of the history of the religions, though, I would say Christianity has more than likely done the majority of the 'culling'. I mean, amongst other atrocities, the Crusades alone count for millions of deaths at the hands of invading Christian armies. But then, who knows, maybe the media was lying to us back then too :P

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65. LiquidMetal writes:

yeah, except the past is the past, you cant call all christians hypocrites just because of something that has happened a long time ago.

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66. Diamond Oz writes:

In answer to your question about NSBM Kalis. I think the answer there is yes. You don't have to believe any message from any type of music but if it's good why not listen? Though most nazi bands suck a$$ through a straw.

# Mar 24, 2008 @ 6:59 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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67. psythe writes:

Fair point, Liquid - just like you can't call all muslims terrorists because of 9/11.

Hell, why not forego the deity and just say "Death in the name of belief:"? Though that number would be pretty much inestimable.

Yeah, I found out about NSBM, looked into it, hated every second of it, not going back there. Worst music I've ever heard hahah. Besides, the whole Nazi idea is deader than chivalry.

# Mar 24, 2008 @ 7:33 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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68. darenloster writes:

Hi psythe, you are right that we can't call all muslims terrorists - to change the subject - How many people here are aware that some short time after the 9/11 tragedy 'system of a down' was interviewed in Toronto and when asked about their feelings toward the terrorist attack THEY indirectly and carefully supported it ! I guess this being a canadian interview they felt it safe to carefully share a glimpse of their TRUE feelings. Its makes me mad when i see them making their ''fame and fortune'' in America. I hope everyone will read this and think twice before spending another penny on their music. Just thought you would like to know.........

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69. darenloster writes:

Hi psythe again, To give you another 'perspective' of your comments in *64 - when you say 'Christians' you really mean 'roman catholicism' . You see, there is a major difference between catholicism and True Biblical Christianity. I am not saying this to offend anyone but the RCC is not founded on the Bible. Many True Christians believe that the Pope is ''the man of sin'' (antichrist) of 2Thessalonians2:3,4 and that the RCC is the 'Great whore' of Revelations 17 and 18 - NOTICE - Rev.17:9 - gives us the LOCATION of the whore - sits on 7 mountains . The ONLY city on earth that geographically sits on 7 mountains is .....ROME !

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70. Diamond Oz writes:

Yeah you posted that before. I already have all the SOAD albums and from the looks of it they won't be making any more so I won't be spending another penny on them lol. I see what you mean and why it pisses you off though.

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71. darenloster writes:

And yes...the RCC is responsible for MANY murders - more than this world will ever know - Rev.17:6. Truly, this EVIL system is NOT from GOD.....''For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. And no wonder ! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his (satan's) ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness...'' 2corinthians11:13-15

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72. Comaborn writes:

I know a little about the genre. I listen to lots of metal, probably only as heavy as the faceless, the black dahlia murder, or job for a cowboy, but christian metal always has a place in my heart. I don't really get any deeper than mainstream metal christian bands but at least I can give some sort of perspective.

I'd say the lyrics from christian bands that actually have value are either of extreme guilt from sin or are somewhat like a coach yelling in your ear for you to stay on the straight and narrow. Here is some lyrics I know offhand from some..

As I Lay Dying - 94 Hours (The first time he sinned)
"94 hours of regret for me to realize what I held
unfading beauty, not just a face
I held its innocence within my heart
Now I won't let go
The torment of your eyes has awakened my soul.
The pain of a moment's time will forever beg your forgiveness
Forgiveness
94 hours for me to realize
I held unfading beauty
I held your innocence"

August Burns Red - Redemption
"Memories of laying face down, motionless, with such a hollow feeling inside.
Soon I would end this life I was living.
I am just a man with a heart and sinful hands.
I am a fallen victim.
Lord, show me the way."

Killswitch Engage - Vide Infra
"I have opened my eyes to see the world the surrounds me daily
I refuse to be led by the majority
Can't compromise I and I
To pass judgment
Judgment will be passed upon you
I will stand up for who I am
Never moved by condemnation
No one is placed higher than another
No matter race or creed or gender
We must teach forgiveness and compassion for all life
Through understanding of our differences
We will find respect for one another
We are all flesh and blood
I am not afraid to speak my mind
No matter the consequences
Stay true to yourself
Through the humble eyes of a child we will realize true equality
They can not take me from me"

Unearth - Black Hearts Now Reign
"Take.
Rob this world of resource.
Burn the oil for fortune.
Stealing from our savior.
In quest of power. Sealed.
Our fate is catastrophic.
The coming days of failure.
Take all you want and these bloody skies will reign.
Take what's hers and these bloody skies will reign.
These bloody skies will reign.
Oh mother, close your eyes.
These bloody skies will reign.
Dear savior,
brace your heart."

Sorry the post is a little long =P

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73. LiquidMetal writes:

the pope is not the antichrist.

many alien abductees have claimed that aliens teach theology and that they have said,
"we will bring to power on earth a powerful being half human and half alien to rule the world as one government. some will reject your new leader, even calling him the antichrist. we will deal with them(annihilate?)."

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74. LiquidMetal writes:

abductees have also said that the new leader will help us in our next step in evolution, this time being a spiritual one.

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75. darenloster writes:

Hi liquidmetal...most people would laugh at the things you said but not me - i believe in aliens - but not as in life on other planets - but as demonic beings (fallen angels) . I believe that those demonic beings ressemble the typical E.T. Alien photos that we usually see - the ones with the 'big eyes' or froggish face of that classic E.T. movie (from Steven S.) - At this point of time there is alot that we can't understand in the Bible but curiously Revelations 16:13 tells us that the ' spirits ' of the satanic trinity have a FROG - like ressemblance. So, definately it all fits together - the end-time pope will literally be posessed with a satanic spirit. Satan is preparing for a world domination through a world leader who will be the antichrist (with the false prophet by his side). In my opinion, the antichrist will be a 'great' politician who will rule the NEW WORLD ORDER and the false prophet will be the religious head of the UNITED RELIGIONS (eccumenical movement). Don't be deceived - the satanic trinity will perform all sorts of signs and lying wonders on earth and even in the SKY ! (2thess.2:9 / rev.13:13-15) BUT you my freind can be 'saved' by realising your need for salvation (romans 3:23, 5:8, 6:23) through Jesus Christ (john14:6 , acts 4:12)

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76. LiquidMetal writes:

^haha yeah i was just saying that the antichrist might be an alien(demon or whatever), i know it wasnt that clear, but i didnt feel like typing everything. i am a saved christian by the way, thanks for the offer though. nonchristians most likely will take what i said as proof that christianity was all based on alien encounters in the past and that it is all BS.

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77. DeathInEye writes:

I love how people can reduce an "all powerful, all knowing" god down to a piece of literature.

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78. Txmetalhead writes:

Listen to early Living Sacrifice and tell me that you knew that band was Christian. Better yet, listen to early Mortification...even my friends and family thought the band was satanic - just by the drums and vocals. Living Sacrifice is awesome, and very technical. Mortification is straight up death metal. Christian metal is comparative to its secular counter-parts.

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79. psythe writes:

lol oh no, what have I started here??

Darenloster, thanks for the lesson on System, I personally could care less what they think of 9/11. And as for the Roman Catholic Church being Satan... hahahah. That's a good one. Believe me, you'll have to do more than quote from a book intrinsic to your beliefs to get me to think about them seriously. The Bible bores me. Catholics bore me. Christians bore me. Obviously I'm speaking very generally here, but seriously? The pope? *yawn* Aliens? *yawn* I mean, really, you can find a quote to suit any situation, any theory, any ridiculous, over-the-top bullsh** idea you want.

Does it hurt the 'True Christians' that the Bible was pretty much re-written by the Romans? Does it hurt more to know the original texts are pretty much unrecoverable?

The only good thing about Chritianity, and Catholicism as well, is the underlying morals of the teachings - love one another, don't kill people, stealing isn't nice, yada-yada, blah blah blah. Talk to me about those, and I'll listen. Starting quoting the Good Book and I'll see you later- or never, if I have my way.

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80. cruor writes:

"Does it hurt the 'True Christians' that the Bible was pretty much re-written by the Romans? Does it hurt more to know the original texts are pretty much unrecoverable?"

While I believe the core behind christianity I believe atleast a good portion was made up by the Romans as a form of social control. I mean the damn Catholics just added new sins. "Don't use mind altertering drugs", bull f***ing sh**.

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81. Diamond Oz writes:

Yep the catholic church has added some new commandments I think. Either that or they're just sins. Drugs is one of them, greed is another. There's some more but I can't remember them. I hate the Pope so much. I don't have anything against religion or religious officials as a whole but I just despise the current Pope. I hate the f***ing look of him for a start. He looks like the god damn emperor from Star Wars! If that isn't proof that he's trying to control people and sh** then I don't know what is.

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82. Diamond Oz writes:

Yep here are the new seven deadly sins:

Environmental pollution
Genetic manipulation
Accumulating excessive wealth
Inflicting poverty
Drug trafficking and consumption
Morally debatable experiments
Violation of fundamental rights of human nature

Anyone else think it's hypocritic and idiotic that the Vatican don't want people to accumilate excessive wealth?

# Mar 24, 2008 @ 8:44 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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83. psythe writes:

Accumulating excessive wealth?! Says the Vatican!?! Tell me you're joking!

I'm not advocating them, but I have nothing against drugs- I just hate the addicts hahah. I agree with the environmental pollution, inflicting poverty and violation of rights ones though.

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84. Diamond Oz writes:

I wish I was joking but that's the statement. I think by introducing these new sins, they've proved what many atheists have been saying that religion is nothing more than a way of controlling people.

I hate everything about drugs. Addicts are twats. I wish I could leave the house nowadays without hearing "Can you give us 50p mate?" 20 times.

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85. Red_Chord writes:

I'ts funny how people are always trying to discredit the Bible on supposedely allegations that it was rewritten and changed when you can look at all the best scholars in all the universities in the world that will tell you that it's pretty close to the original but what has changes is that some words got a translation that was different than what it Meant originally. They have tons of documents and originals available to study and rpove that all in all, it's still a pretty acurate translation.

But I guess it's easier to just believe a side of the story that doesn't involve studying or looking into it. I was like that 12 Years ago but then I went out and tried to find answers. I did and I am now Christian. I've never regretted it, my life got way better and I started sleeping very well at night (use to ne insomniac).

And again, has I have said in other posts, don't discredit the Bible or Christianity and the way some religions such as Cathloics are running their things. you can be Christian and not being involved in an organized religion. I am Catholic but you will never see me in a Catholic Church because it sucks ass, Priests sucks a$$ and the way they are acting sucks ass...enough said, look into it and maybe you'll see that the bible is much more reliable than what you thought.

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86. DeathInEye writes:

I know you're reacting to psythe and diamond but it be credible doesn't satisfy my disgust with the fact that people think something as powerful as a god can be put into a book. Saying this is god simply makes him a limited being. If god is real, you can't define him, which discredits any theology. You can't live up to the expectations of something you don't know.

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87. LiquidMetal writes:

^^^that doesnt make any sense.

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88. DeathInEye writes:

Which part and I'll elaborate when I have time.

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89. RememberMetal? writes:

This awesome! I love Christians and Catholics just for this kind of stuff!!!!!!

Environmental pollution-------fair enough, whoops I drive. Hell time!
Genetic manipulation------?!?!?!? Thank Jurassic Park. Poor Michael J. Fox.
Accumulating excessive wealth.....Republicans will "love" this one.
Inflicting poverty.....this one too.
Drug trafficking and consumption....Take that hippy!
Morally debatable experiments--------------------- LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Violation of fundamental rights of human nature...see also 10 Commandments

I'll keep trucking with the agnostic outlook of "I don't KNOW and neither do you." For the sake of family, friends, pets and good people everywhere I hope there IS a heaven. Maybe I'll get religion as I age. Nothing like the finality of death to scare one toward a god.

As for my view on the initial subject it's unchanged since post 37. What would cause a Christian to make music inspired by and devoted to the Christian God's one true enemy?

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# Mar 24, 2008 @ 11:16 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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90. LiquidMetal writes:

^^^thats just catholics, the other christians dont have those dumb commandments

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91. LiquidMetal writes:

DeathInEye, no matter how powerful a god, why couldnt you put him in a book?? secondly, you can define gods attributes but you cant describe him indefinitely. and third, you can live up to the expectations of a god you believe in, which means you know what youre living up to.

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92. biro writes:

okay this is really old.. but post 60, short though your post was, the moment i read the second sentence, i had a million things to say.. but ill shorten it to a few phrases.

the point of christians to have this kind of music is not to 'fit in' or be 'cool'.. heck thats the complete opposite! their purpose is well.. to stick out. to make a point. some bands could have, in the past been nonchristian, then came to christ, and because of their previous interest in black metal, saw black metal as an outlet for their christian views. and not to press it upon others, but more to just declare their beliefs, and make music while at it.

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93. biro writes:

might i add, that the reason they would immerse themselves in an environment that would kill them is out of love. i know, sounding a bit idealistic but love never fails. Though the prophet's word may come to an end, tongues come to nothing, and knowledge have no more value, love has no end. (1 corinthians 13:8) christians should be prepared for the worst, to brace themselves against all that may be set against them. im sure this is what all the christian martyrs were living for.

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94. DeathInEye writes:

You can't put God in a book because by the end you are saying "there is no more to write about this God or what he does," thus cutting off everything he could be capable of doing. Same goes for the attributes. If you say God is blah blah blah, you will inevitably leave something out, which implies he cannot do whatever is left out. And if you can't define God, you cannot live up to his expectations because inevitably there will be one you forget or did not know you had to live up to! Now I'm not saying God doesn't exist. I just do not buy any existing theology, because they attempt to define who and what God is when it is not possible.

As far CBM goes, no matter what, lyrical content matters. Now don't confuse this as me saying BM can't be positive. I think all music CAN be positive, but labeling it Christian just because it's positive doesn't float my boat. In a way I see Behemoth as positive, but this could just be because I found the bible tearing incident quite entertaining. =)

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95. darenloster writes:

Hi DeathinEye, you are right when you say that songs don't have to be 'christian' to be positive. For example - 'dawn over a new world' by Dragonforce or 'follow your heart' by Triumph are POSITIVE songs but NOT christian...therefore, we should make the distinction between positive/inspirational songs and Christian based lyrics....As for putting God into a book...I think it is good to distinguish God's revealed will from His Secret will - All that God's wants us to know has been revealed to us in His Holy Writ. His revealed will (the Bible) is the definer of our duty and the measure of our responsibility. His secret will is His hidden counsels that belong to His Sovereignty....Here's a great verse that explains both Wills....'' The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but those things which are revealed belong to us...'' Deuteronomy 29:29. To know God is to know His word (revealed will) '' All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is PROFITABLE for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be COMPLETE, thoroughly equipped for every good work.'' (2Tim.3:16,17) ''For by Grace you have been saved through Faith...'' (eph.2:8a) ''....Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.'' (rom.10:17) ''Heaven and earth will pass away, but MY Words will by no means pass away.'' (matt.24:35)

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96. LiquidMetal writes:

The bible is not a book that compiles every single thing god can do. you get that from personal experience. and the bible says god is almighy which means he can do whatever he wants to do and whenever, so technically nothing is left out. and if there was an expectation to live up to that no one knew, wouldnt you think god would know?? he'll be fair and just, he doesnt care as much about peoples actions as he does whats inside of them.

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97. DeathInEye writes:

But saying he is always Just is saying he cannot be Unjust, thus a limitation, hence he is not almighty. If God is truly almighty, every possibility is open and either has occurred or will occur, no matter how unfathomable. And Liquid, you've never questioned why a completely just and fair God needs secrets? Seems to me it would be just and fair to have it all on the table and make your choice. And daren, quoting the book I've openly disagreed with isn't going to change my opinion.

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98. Red_Chord writes:

Remember Metal? will you just stop with those dumb a$$ made up commandments you're always talking about. I never heard of those and they are not in the Bible so you are putting your money on a loosing horse from the start. Who gives a rat's a$$ what the Pope and the Catholic religion says about those commandments ? Like I said I am Christian and was baptised catholic but I don't give a care for the Church or the Pope and whatever stupid things he is making up. So you want to talk, let's talk but just drop those 'we, the Catholic Church we're making stuff on the go to try to stay on top' thinga...please !!!

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99. LiquidMetal writes:

if god has secrets, it is most likely because if he revealed them we would never understand, like explaining calculus to an ant, or he has no need to reveal them to us. and youre right, God cant do everything, i should have said this earlier. God CANNOT sin. that is the one thing he cant do, but that doesnt mean he isnt almighty. evil is essentially the lack or absence of God. therefore God cannot sin because he cannot remove him from himself unless he somehow erased his existence which would mean that he would no longer be able to do anything because hes not there. if he stopped existing, you might say that this means hes not almighty, but how can you label something that doesnt exist?? so in conclusion, god is almighty, But he cant sin.

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100. psythe writes:

God can't sin? What is he, a eunich? :P

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# Mar 26, 2008 @ 6:32 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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101. darenloster writes:

Well done LiquidMetal, i couldn't have said it better myself. God is sovereign and almighty BUT He cannot sin - this is what we call a 'paradox'. we as finite beings cannot begin to comprehend the Infinite. the apostle Paul said it well too - '' Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God ! How unsearchable are His judgements and His ways past finding out ! '' romans 11:33

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102. Txmetalhead writes:

All people men, women, priests, the pope, have sin in their life. No one is free from sin.
The pope is simply a figure head..for the Roman Catholic Church. Everyone commits sin. It is hypocritical for anyone to deny that they are sinners. I live with sin, in sin, and only I can change my life. I choose to ask Jesus and God to forgive me of my sins. Very interesting discussion.

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103. Txmetalhead writes:

damn typo from above....I meant to say "It is hypocritical for anyone to deny that they are NOT sinners".

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104. Diamond Oz writes:

I swear if I see one more f***ing bible quote on here I'm gonna smash this computer! :P

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105. Txmetalhead writes:

Yeah - take me to sunday school already...I have seen enough scriptures from the bible..lol. kidding, of course. I don't like black metal or a band trying to play black metal, so more than likely I will pass on the offering from these guys - Crimson Moonlight etc. And yes, bands can have positive messages, and not be a Christian band, look at Hatebreed, or Killswitch Engage.

# Mar 26, 2008 @ 2:25 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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106. LiquidMetal writes:

Txmetalhead, there was no typo, you had it right the first time.

# Mar 26, 2008 @ 2:29 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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107. DeathInEye writes:

God = Infinite...We cannot comprehend the Infinite...We cannot comprehend God...God cannot be written about then. Case closed, the bible made a nice attempt but failed.

# Mar 26, 2008 @ 5:03 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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108. RememberMetal? writes:

Red Chord:"will you just stop with those dumb a$$ made up commandments you're always talking about."

To start: This is my first time mentioning these "new revised sins." I had already read about them elsewhere but didn't think to bring them up before Oz mentioned them.

Second: I too was baptized Catholic.

Third: and most importantly--Relax. I'm not trying to tear down your God. It's my genuine hope that there is a God who will/does take care of good souls as I would hate to think deceased family, friends, pets are gone forever in every sense-----I admit though, I try to accept that possibility as I am presently agnostic.

I merely find it odd that Christians would want to make their own version of black metal. A form of music rooted in church burnings, murder, rape, top shelf debauchery, bottom rung morals, overt hatred of Christians and their practices AND direct worship of God's one true enemy. It's like if the American government adopted a few Nazi policies and slapped a different name on it to justify the action.

It just doesn't make sense.

Now Playing: Porcupine Tree - "Gravity Eyelids"


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# Mar 26, 2008 @ 5:09 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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109. Diamond Oz writes:

With regards to the afterlifeyou brought up there RM?, I would actually prefer there not to be an afterlife. As much as I would like to see and meet people who are no longer with us, I really don't like the thought of eternal life. Nobody wants to live forever right? So why does religions promise of eternal life appeal to so many? That's what I don't understand.

However I am happy no more bible verses have popped up yet :P

# Mar 26, 2008 @ 5:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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110. LiquidMetal writes:

We can understand the mathematics and geometry of higher dimensions, though we will never fully comprehend what it actually looks like. Its the same with God, it doesnt mean we cant write things about him.

Now case closed.

# Mar 26, 2008 @ 5:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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111. LiquidMetal writes:

Oz i kinda agree with you there, ive always thought about that. wouldnt we get bored of eternal life after about 100 years of it?? im guessing its something more than we could ever imagine.

# Mar 26, 2008 @ 5:45 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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112. Red_Chord writes:

Yeah for awhile eternity used to scare the heck out of me, even more than death. but then I figured that when we will go in the afterlife, we will not think or be like we are right now, so our state of mind would be able to cope with eternity. But eternity as a human being ? Heck no ! Eternity with different parameters ? Makes sense.

Remembermetal? sorry about thinking that you brought them up first. But those ridiculous commandments are really making me p***ed off because they are so ridiculous. In fact anything that comes out of the mouth of these idiots in Rome pisses me off big time. I just hope they would shut up and start acting Christian once and for all...the Pope sucks as much as Limp Bizkit...

# Mar 26, 2008 @ 6:10 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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113. Red_Chord writes:

Just to finish, what pisses me off so bad about the Pope and all his zoo animals is that everything they say, they make all the world believe that it's for all Christians in the world. Hey it's not you old monkey fart, I am Christian, I am proud to be Christian, I am saved but you you freaking wrinklrd retard b**** need to be less in love with yourself and with power and read your Bible again because you got it all wrong stupid decomposed f***tard of my ass...I feel better but I would feel better saying that to his face...motherf***er...

# Mar 26, 2008 @ 6:34 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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114. LiquidMetal writes:

death never really scared me, its how i die that scares me.

# Mar 26, 2008 @ 6:49 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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115. Diamond Oz writes:

I wanna die peacefullt in my sleep like my grandad, not screaming and crying like his passengers!

# Mar 26, 2008 @ 7:00 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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116. Diamond Oz writes:

*peacefully sorry

# Mar 26, 2008 @ 7:00 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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117. LiquidMetal writes:

^^^lol

# Mar 26, 2008 @ 7:04 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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118. Red_Chord writes:

Death used to scare me dude...the total extinction of Me...not existing anymore, everything I was down the drain...ok some people would say they like the idea of me not existing anymore but not ME !

# Mar 26, 2008 @ 7:17 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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119. Diamond Oz writes:

Haha! Nah you're cool Red_Chord. I know what you mean about the not existing anymore bit, but if I can do something in my life that at least a few people remember, I'll be quite happy to at least leave memories since a person isn't truely gone unless no-one knew about them or remembers them.

# Mar 26, 2008 @ 7:21 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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120. godlike writes:

hey, 115 sounds familiar..?

So, one day at the local Catholic Church, the janitor is mopping the floors around the confessionals..when to his surprise the Father taps him on the shoulder and asks him to sit in the confessional an take his place while he uses the restroom..
The janitor says, "what if someone comes in...what do I say"
the Father says..."listen to what they confess and then look it up in the chart on the wall and tell them what they need to do for forgiveness... its really easy, I wont be gone very long."
So the janitor takes the seat and is quietly praying that no one shows up, when sure enough he hears a womans voice say "forgive me father for I have sinned.." so he goes with it and says...
" yes my child"... the woman goes on to explain that she has engaged in anal sex with a strange man and wants to obtain forgiveness for her sin....
While trying to contain his laughter he looks through the chart of sins, but damn, there isnt anything about anal sex..??
Not knowing what to do, he steps out of the confessional and sees an Alter boy up near the front of the church... frantically he runs up to the Alter boy and asks him " what does the Father give for anal sex.?"
the Alter boy says " Well, this week its two cans of pop and a candy bar."

# Mar 26, 2008 @ 7:48 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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121. Diamond Oz writes:

That's a good one Godlike, heard it awhile ago though.

Priest and a Rabbi are talking about promotions in the faith systems.
The Rabbi asks: "What can you acheive higher than a priest?"
The priest says: "Well I suppose if I was good enough I could become a bishop."
The Rabbi keeps on: "And then?"
"Well if I was really REALLY good I might be able to become a cardinal"
"And then?"
"You're pushing it now Rabbi, the best I could do I guess is become Pope"
The Rabbi, unimpressed replies "That's it?"
The priest responds "What?! Do you want me to become god himself?!"
The Rabbi says: "Well one of our boys did it!"

Now watching: ECW- Barely Legal '97

# Mar 26, 2008 @ 8:14 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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122. RememberMetal? writes:

Oz: "I really don't like the thought of eternal life. Nobody wants to live forever right?"

Stop being so logical Oz, you're crushing whats left of my youthful optimism :P

As with life I'll have to accept whatever death hands me. Be it a never ending nap or some form of post-life (eternal suffering or endless-euphoria....I don't know which is scarier, heh) or weirder still, some reincarnation thing where I don't get to remember previous lives as I don't remember the last one where I was the co-pilot of the Hindenburg.

*sigh* This is weighty: I blew up people in Call of Duty 4 today!....there thats more like it.

Now Playing: Nine Inch Nails - "13 Ghosts II"

# Mar 26, 2008 @ 8:28 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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123. Cynic writes:

Think not that Death malignly waits,
A weapon of the hostile Fates,
To strike the sinner down;
'Tis but a link in Nature's plan
To join succeding growths of man,
And life complete to crown.
All finite things unfailing tend
From a beginning to an end,
For what is Time but Change?
What goal of growth could Life possess,
If stretch'd out into emptiness,
With bleak unbounded range?
What bard with grace could ever sing
The cloying charm of endless Spring,
Or Praise eternal day?
Since man is tun'd to Time alone,
The wise in Death a friend must own,
And bow to Nature's way!

That's a poem called "Death" by the great H.P. Lovecraft whose work every metalhead will know by his inspiration, i.e. Metallica, Nile, Cradle of Filth, Morbid Angel etc. Sort of poetically puts Diamond Oz's point, I always thought it was an great piece of writing.

...on a random, hopefully religious-debate-derailing point, anyone heard "Kill" by Cannibal Corpse? I've always smirked at them as a gore-gimmick band but damn, Five Nails Through The Neck!!

Now Playing: Cannibal Corpse - "Five Nails Through The Neck"

# Mar 26, 2008 @ 11:40 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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124. LiquidMetal writes:

time is the one thing that scares me the most. if you think about it, all that you ever do will only become a distant memory. even the present and future, wait long enough and it will pass from you and you have no way of ever returning to the past. time is always moving forward so all we're doing in life is living out the memories of our future dead self. i dont know if you guys know what im saying, but it kinda creeps me out sometimes.

# Mar 26, 2008 @ 11:49 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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125. psythe writes:

Because I could not stop for Death,
He kindly stopped for me;
The carriage held but just ourselves
And immortality.
We slowly drove, he knew no haste,
And I had put away
My labor, and my leisure too,
For his civility.
...
Since then 'tis centuries, and yet each
Feels shorter than the day
I first surmised the horses' heads
Were towards eternity.

Lovecraft is good, but I've always been a big Emily d***inson fan. That's D i c kinson, hahah. She puts things very simply, in a very catchy way, but some of the stuff she says is pretty heady. Lord Tennyson and Lord Byron, and Dylan Thomas are great too, though likely for the most part less inspirational to metal.

As for time and everything we do being forgotten, I don't see anyone forgetting Hitler any time soon. But then, I'd rather be forgotten than be remembered for doing what he did, so all in all, I'm not too worried.

Time held me green and dying,
Though I sang in my chains like the sea. - Dylan Thomas, 'Fern Hill'

Now Playing: Chimaira - "Cleansation"

# Mar 27, 2008 @ 6:37 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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126. Christfucker writes:

Christian variant of Black Metal is called unBlack Metal

White Metal is a term used for Black Metal bands that are NSBM/Nazis

# Mar 27, 2008 @ 8:05 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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127. RememberMetal? writes:

unblack metal......

~~~~ LOL!!!!!!1112!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!11ONE!!!!!!!!!!!1!1!

Bwah hahahahahahahahaahahhaahahahah!

May need adult diapers about 50 years earlier than planned.

I wish I could inflate my text (plus bold) just for that one lol cus that was AWESOME!

Best News Today!

Thank you Christf***er (!) wow.

Now Playing: FleshCrawl - "Into the Fire of Hell"

# Mar 27, 2008 @ 10:09 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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128. LiquidMetal writes:

lol post 120

# Mar 29, 2008 @ 6:36 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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129. DeathInEye writes:

Death Be Not Proud (Holy Sonnet #10)
John Donne

Death, be not proud, though some have called thee
Mighty and dreadful, for thou are not so;
For those whom thou think'st thou dost overthrow
Die not, poor Death, nor yet canst thou kill me.
From rest and sleep, which but thy pictures be,
Much pleasure; then from thee much more must flow,
And soonest our best men with thee do go,
Rest of their bones, and soul's delivery.
Thou'art slave to fate, chance, kings, and desperate men,
And dost with poison, war, and sickness dwell,
And poppy'or charms can make us sleep as well
And better than thy stroke; why swell'st thou then?
One short sleep past, we wake eternally,
And death shall be no more; Death, thou shalt die.

# Mar 29, 2008 @ 7:03 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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130. Red_Chord writes:

Wow, a poetry contest, just hope that Otep won't show up with her poems...

# Mar 29, 2008 @ 7:49 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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131. Diamond Oz writes:

As the shadows of darkness fall
Upon the paths of despair
They leave a trail of nothingness in their wake

But yes let us pray Otep doesn't turn up and talk complete bollocks.

Now playing: Jimi Hendrix- Angel

# Mar 29, 2008 @ 7:56 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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132. Red_Chord writes:

Amen !

# Mar 29, 2008 @ 10:29 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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133. LiquidMetal writes:

Love me or hate me, it's still an obsession.
Love me or hate me, that is the question.
If you love me then thank you!
If you hate me then f**k you!

I'm fat, I need a diet.
No, in fact I'm just too light
And I ain't got the biggest breast-s-s, but I write all the best disses.
I got hairy armpits, but I don't walk around like this.
I wear a big baggy t-shirt that hides that nasty sh**.
Ugh!
Never had my nails done.
Bite them down until they're numb.
I'm the one with the non-existent bum,
Now I don't really give a....Ugh!
I'm missing my shepherd's pie
Like a high maintenance chick missin' her diamonds.
I'm missin' my clippers lighters.
Now bow down to your royal highness.
No I don't own a corgi,
Had a hamster, it died cause I ignored it.
Go on then, go on report me,
I'm English, try and deport me!

Love me or hate me, it's still an obsession.
Love me or hate me, that is the question.
If you love me then thank you!
If you hate me then f**k you!

now watching(music video): lady sovereign - love me or hate me

# Mar 31, 2008 @ 12:13 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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134. psythe writes:

Not taking a shot at you, Liquid, but those are some of the worst lyrics I've ever heard, even for an RnB/Rap song.

So... Christian Black Metal... lol

Now Playing: 8 Mile Soundtrack - "Spit Shine"

# Mar 31, 2008 @ 5:26 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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135. Hatebreeder writes:

CoB follow the reaper begin with those words I had no idea where it was comming from:) thank you post 129 :)

# Mar 31, 2008 @ 9:28 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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136. ! writes:

a priest and a rabbi are walking down the street. they see a group of boys playing in the park. the priest says" lets go f*** them little boys." the rabbi says" out of what?"

# Mar 31, 2008 @ 11:14 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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137. Kalis_wrath writes:

*LMAO* Post 136 that is great! I like that one.

# Mar 31, 2008 @ 11:41 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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138. LiquidMetal writes:

haha psythe, i expected that reaction, people were posting lyrics and poems and i was watching a music video, so i was like, what the hell ill post the lyrics and see what people say. i thought that song was cool though in my opinion.

# Mar 31, 2008 @ 3:04 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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139. LiquidMetal writes:

has anyone here ever seen russell peters??

# Mar 31, 2008 @ 3:07 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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140. Diamond Oz writes:

Yeah Lady Sovereign is bloody awful.

# Mar 31, 2008 @ 3:16 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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141. Txmetalhead writes:

Well I can at least check out this type of metal...whatever you want to call it. Unblack metal sounds too technical, though. I like most forms of metal, even some "gasp" Black Metal.

# Mar 31, 2008 @ 5:27 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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142. Dark_Funeral writes:

id like it a lot of bands like demon hunter and as i lay crying play metalcore or alternative rock. those bible thumping queers have no right to play a genre that they dont even stand for.

christians to the lions!

# Mar 31, 2008 @ 9:31 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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143. Red_Chord writes:

Get bend you freaking hater. I sure don't wish fir anybody to be sent to the lions or to hell but I have a special wish for you : Please Lord, give him at least half a brain, it would be better than the turd that's in there right now.

That's a pretty good wish no ?

# Mar 31, 2008 @ 9:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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144. LiquidMetal writes:

hey Oz, why are you hatin on your fellow British chick?? haha jk :P
i like love me or hate me but most of her songs suck.

# Apr 1, 2008 @ 12:41 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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145. darenloster writes:

Red_Chord....LOLLL !!

# Apr 1, 2008 @ 9:43 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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146. Diamond Oz writes:

In answer to your question LM, it's because she's atrocious! There's very few British "rap" acts that I enjoy though. I like the American and Chicano stuff for the most part.

# Apr 1, 2008 @ 9:46 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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147. LiquidMetal writes:

^^^who do you listen to in the hiphop/rap scene??

# Apr 14, 2008 @ 3:29 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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148. xXxBODOM OF MY HEARTxXx writes:

THIS IS IRONIC TOO....
CHRISTAIN ++++ BLACK METAL = POLAR OPPOSITES!!! !!! !!! !!!
RIGHT?
WHY THE f*** MAKE A DOC. ON THAT....
THEY ARE WASTING THEIR PRECIOUS TIME...
C'MON....
R U SERIOUS...
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING....
AND ISN'T THERE A SMALL AMOUNT OF BANDS THAT ACTUALLY FIT INTO THIS CATEGORY?????!!!???????!!!
WHO ELSE AGREES??????
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# Apr 14, 2008 @ 5:13 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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149. xXxBODOM OF MY HEARTxXx writes:

HOWEVER MAYHEM IS COOL.....SOOO.......

# Apr 14, 2008 @ 5:14 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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150. Red_Chord writes:

Did you know that if you press caps lock on your keyboard you can make the letters smaller ?

# Apr 14, 2008 @ 5:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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151. xXxBODOM OF MY HEARTxXx writes:

yes Red_Chord I did....
thx...
=P

# Apr 14, 2008 @ 6:07 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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152. Txmetalhead writes:

What I don't understand is why most bands get progressively "softer" the longer they are around. I really hate that. Now Demon Hunter, as much as I like them, have softened up their sound too. I respect melody but damn, some of it is too melodic. I can't stand listening to a band that 90%+ melody, usually. I have made exceptions, but I need harsh, heavy, brutal metal...lol

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