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Vinnie Paul Abbott Talks About Phil Anselmo

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UK's Metal Hammer magazine conducted an interview with drummer Vinnie Paul Abbott (HELLYEAH, PANTERA, DAMAGEPLAN) for its January 2008 issue, which celebrates the life of Vinnie's brother, late PANTERA/DAMAGEPLAN guitarist "Dimebag" Darrell Abbott. A couple of excerpts from the chat follow:

Metal Hammer: Do you think [Dimebag] gets the recognition he deserves? That people were too quick to merely see him as Dimebag the party animal and not the talented guitarist?

Vinnie: No, he knew those things went hand in hand. He knew he was the life of the party and a character and that kind of came along with everything he did. That was okay with him and okay with us.

Metal Hammer: Did the pair of you turn to each other for support when Phil Anselmo [PANTERA singer] started encountering his various problems whilst in PANTERA?

Vinnie: Oh, yeah, we spoke to each other about it all the time. We'd made several attempts to reach out to Phil. In the end, we felt it had gone too far and we really needed to do something. I remember, Dime had made some demos, and Jerry Cantrell [ALICE IN CHAINS guitarist] was over. We were just hanging out, pretty depressed. Dime took Jerry out in the car and played him the demos — which later became DAMAGEPLAN — and Jerry said, "You need to move on and do your own thing." Dime came back into the house and said, "Fuck this shit, we're not waiting around anymore. Let's just start our own band and do our own thing." And that's how DAMAGEPLAN came about.

Metal Hammer: Much has been made of the interview Phil did with Metal Hammer in 2004, just prior to Dimebag's tragic death, to the extent that you actually requested a tape of that interview to confirm its veracity, which we supplied. Since then, Phil has said a lot online and in the press about wanting to make amends. Has he ever tried to make contact with you?

Vinnie: No, man. I don't want to talk to him. I don't believe anything he says. He's the master of lies. He says that shit because he wants the fans to believe what he has to say and follow what he does. And they're like sheep and they will. I don't want to elaborate on it any further apart from to say: listen to the Metal Hammer interview and you'll know exactly how he felt about my brother. He can say anything he wants, now on the backside.

Metal Hammer: This is obviously a very sensitive area, and I hope you don't mind me asking the question, and you don't have to answer this if you don't want to, but what memories do you have of that tragic night?

Vinnie: Ah, man, the last thing that really matters to me is the last thing we said to each other before we went on stage. We were warming up on the side of the stage like we always did and we were both really excited — we only had two shows left and we were gonna be going home for Christmas and to begin work on the second [DAMAGEPLAN] record. Our code word to let it all hang out and have a good time was "Van Halen," man. And that's the last two words we ever said to each other. I said "Van Halen" and he said "Van Halen" and we high-fived each other and went on the deck to do our thing… and a minute and a half later I'll never see him again.

Source: Blabbermouth

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1. old skool thrash writes:

me and my brother are thrash maniacs.. i cant begin to feel the pain for vinnie paul - it's possibly the most tragic way.. R.I.P dime - Vinnie stay strong!

# Jan 27, 2008 @ 8:42 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. brandedcfh420 writes:

GODDAMN VINNIE, ITS TIME TO GROW UP YOU WHINY a$$ LIL BABY. WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU MISS DIME...WE ALL DO, BUT LET THE NEGATIVE HATRED GO. YOU AND RITA ARE DOING NOTHING GOOD BY CONTINUING TO TALK TRASH. THE MORE YOU TALK SMACK THE MORE PEOPLE HATE. I KNOW BY ALL THE SMACK I TALK HERE. DIME IS DEAD, PANTERA IS DEAD...LET THEM BOTH R.I.P.

# Jan 27, 2008 @ 8:49 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. hurricane125 writes:

that story at the end with van halen is so sad...thats the first time i heard that...and i cant believe this person above me show some f***in respect you idiot vinnie has every right to be mad it was his brother for god sakes

rip dimebag

# Jan 27, 2008 @ 9:32 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. brandedcfh420 writes:

yo hurricane, go fuk yourself. how many times has these same questions been asked and answered already???!!! i showed plenty of respect when dime died, but now, like thousands of others, i am tired of seeing the same damn story over and over and over again. also, rita, dime woman, is still doin nothing but talkin sh1t, and now shes takin shots at pat from damageplan. both of these morons need to just move on in their lives. dime is dead, we miss him, and i would love to go to dimes grave and lay some flowers and smoke a fat one for him while there. also, at blabbermouth.net, vinnie says all the fans are sheep. well, US SHEEP MADE HIM WHO HE IS. WITHOUT US SHEEP PANTERA NEVER WOULD HAVE GOTTEN AS POPULAR AS THEY WERE.
look vinnie, we are sorry that dime was murdered. but to continue to say it was phils fault is immature. as far as damageplan and hellyeah are concerned, DOWN blows them both away. vinnie needs to accept that he is relegated to his brothers legacy...move on with your life man, and it will get better. both you and rita need to quit draggin dime into everything you do.
also, you both claim REX got a free ride through the whole pantera thing..well, what a fukin joke that is. Rex made his own bass lines. it took 4 to ride that ride...now, you both want it to look like it was just dime and vinnie that made pantera what it was...well, BS!!!

here is a link to an article at blabbermouth with rita, dimes woman:
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=89365

# Jan 27, 2008 @ 9:48 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. www.iced-earth.net writes:

I f***ing cried for a week ... when Dime died.... and I am still crying an 8 of December... but the fact that all people want to blame Phill Anselmo doesnt seem fair ! Yes, he had / has bigh issues .. but hey ... Nathan f***ing Gale is to blame for this tragedy. He is the only one to blame! I wish he burns in hell .. in extreme pain right now!

www.iced-earth.net

# Jan 27, 2008 @ 10:17 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. broken face writes:

So help me brandedcfh420 if i knew who u were id hunt u down n strangle ur fa**ot ass

# Jan 27, 2008 @ 11:35 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. Liar,liar writes:

What kind of sick f*** would kill Dimebag I hope he nurns in hell

R.I.P. Dime

# Jan 27, 2008 @ 11:37 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. Diamond Oz writes:

If I saw my brother killed in front of me. I'd be p***ed off with people talking smack about him just before he died too. However, I do sympathize with Phil, sometimes it takes something as tragic as death to make you realize how much someone means to you. Some people need to cut Phil some slack but I won't sit here and tell Vinnie and Rita how to feel. It's not my life and I'd probably feel the same way too.

# Jan 27, 2008 @ 11:41 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. brandedcfh420 writes:

broken face writes:
So help me brandedcfh420 if i knew who u were id hunt u down n strangle ur fa**ot ass

ok, am i suppossed to be scared...I LIVE IN CHARLOTTE NORTH CAROLINA...COME AND FIND ME B1TCH!!

# Jan 27, 2008 @ 11:51 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. brandedcfh420 writes:

oz, i agree to a point. dime is dead. i cried too when he was murdered, but i moved on..im sure it would take a lot longer if my brother was killed like that, but since i hate my brother i wouldnt hold hatred to that person. but dime and vinnie loved eachother. now all he is doing is keeping the hate alive...MOVE ON VINNIE...!!!

# Jan 27, 2008 @ 11:58 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. anonymus writes:

sick f***in minded people, f*** you guys
R.I.P. DIME

# Jan 27, 2008 @ 12:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. Jrizzle writes:

R.I.P. Dime. I'm not even gonna talk about this subject

Now Playing: Mastodon - Capillarian Crest

# Jan 27, 2008 @ 12:46 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. brandedcfh420 writes:

panteradudexxx420 writes:
FCKIN DIME BROKE UP PANTERA SO FCKIN FCK HIS DEAD FCKIN a$$ YEAH I SAID IT HE WAS A FCKIN SICK GUITARST BUT FCK HIM FCK HIS FAGHGOT BROTHER ILL SEE PLENTY IF PPL N FRENS KILLED IN FRONT OF ME WHEN I JOIN THE MARINES AN I WONT CRY LIKE A b**** OR A FCKIN NIGGGER HAHAHA YALL KNOW ME brandedcfh420 ITS COOL 2 C SUM1 ON HERE WHO DONT TALK FAGG SHIIT PEACE BRO 420 4 lIFE HAHA YALL KNOW ME

what a complete moron!!!

# Jan 27, 2008 @ 12:50 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. B12 writes:

panteradudexxx420

wow we could give a sh** less about ur marine status...you problly think ur badass...i bet theres ppl who care about you if you died theyd be sad...pretty hard to believe tho with the way you talk

rip dime...godbless

# Jan 27, 2008 @ 2:26 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. C writes:

Nice one, post13... really smart. I agree 100%, GJrizzle. Enough of this. R.I.P Dime!!!!!

# Jan 27, 2008 @ 2:27 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. Dimebag_Forever writes:

totally agree with Diamond Oz, it's a damn shame Phil has gotten such a bad wrap from both vinnie and rita, sure he might have said somethings to anger them in the past, but they should move on and learn to forgive someone, and phil is no longer a drug addicted alcoholic so thats probably why he is seeing how f***ed up the things he said in the past were.

# Jan 27, 2008 @ 2:29 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. Old skool thrash writes:

Im sorry to say this.. but if some1 bad mouths you're brother and your bro passes away with that frame of mind on him.. i am pretty f***ing sure, you wont be fogiving. it's an unfortunate event but phil have to bare with the consequences. it's life.

# Jan 27, 2008 @ 3:34 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. Kalis_wrath writes:

Like I said here before. If I saw my sister be shot would be very p***ed. Phil deserves the bashing and is a worthless lieing d***! I think would do everything in my power to get the truth of the matter out and would not be as kind as Rita and Vinnie are by allowing Phil to continue to live another day! Anyone on here telling Vinnie to get over it should watch their family be shot THEN tell us just how long you get over it and what he should do. As far as Rita goes think that if my boyfriend of 20 years was murdered would do exactly what she is doing.

# Jan 27, 2008 @ 3:40 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. Old skool thrash writes:

Kalis_wrath
u hit the nail in the coffin... well said..

# Jan 27, 2008 @ 3:49 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. Public Execution writes:

I just wish this topic as a whole could be dropped. I am not saying Vinnie doesn't have a right to be p***ed, but people need to stop bringing up the topic. This hatchet needs to be buried, and hopefully we can reconcile. Metal Hammer is creating half the problem by continuing to ask Vinnie Paul questions on this subject. Hopefully time can bring healing.

# Jan 27, 2008 @ 4:10 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. WOW writes:

panteradudexxx420 writes:
FCKIN DIME BROKE UP PANTERA SO FCKIN FCK HIS DEAD FCKIN a$$ YEAH I SAID IT HE WAS A FCKIN SICK GUITARST BUT FCK HIM FCK HIS FAGHGOT BROTHER ILL SEE PLENTY IF PPL N FRENS KILLED IN FRONT OF ME WHEN I JOIN THE MARINES AN I WONT CRY LIKE A b**** OR A FCKIN NIGGGER HAHAHA YALL KNOW ME brandedcfh420 ITS COOL 2 C SUM1 ON HERE WHO DONT TALK FAGG SHIIT PEACE BRO 420 4 lIFE HAHA YALL KNOW ME

what a complete moron!!!

You do the same thing haha wow

# Jan 27, 2008 @ 6:07 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. Kalis_wrath writes:

Public execution, that may happen sometime in the future. The wounds are just too fresh right now.

# Jan 27, 2008 @ 7:00 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. KILL ANSELMO writes:

Ha ha ha, this is great Anselmo is going to die!
This story will not end untill Anselmo is Dead and buried.
As for all of you fa**ot Anselmo fudge packers your just a bunch of SHEEP!
There is going to be no let up until Anselmo has his Brains sprayed all over the place.
brandedcfh420 sucks d***........come get some punk!!

# Jan 27, 2008 @ 8:24 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. thefunpalace writes:

its not like vinnies saying phils responsible for dimes death, hes just saying that hes a f***in liar trying to reach out now to vinnie like he loved dime and him. and hes says he clearly showed how he felt in the interview where he said dime deserves to be severely beaten, and nothing phil will ever say about dime and his family will ever make that right.
R.I.P. Dime i saw hellyeah last night and the crowd make a f***in chant for u bro. Your legacy will never die.

# Jan 27, 2008 @ 8:29 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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25. deathbringer writes:

Yeah, I don't get the "get over it" comments. 1) he's being asked these questions and answering in a reasonable manner and 2) who's to say he has to make up with Phil at all? If someone gets on my bad side or I write them off for being fake/backstabbing/etc., I am done with them. No need to ever talk to that person again. It doesn't mean Vinny (or I) have to have some negative hatred built up or anything. Why waste another second on it at all?

I thought ever question and response in that interview showed an interesting perspective I had not gotten prior to reading it.

# Jan 27, 2008 @ 10:27 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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26. Red_Chord writes:

Dimebag was great, this story just blemish his memory. f*** that story, let's move on.

# Jan 27, 2008 @ 10:30 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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27. Kalis_wrath writes:

I know I am going to sound harsh and such by this, but until Phil is out of the picture wont be able to move on. Looking at him just brings everything back and alot of that has to do with the fact I dont forgive and forget with stuff like this. I have even boycotted all of Phil's side bands. I carried a picture of Dime in my purse for 6 years before his death, lived for new Pantera, actually cried when he was murdered and supported Pantera and Damageplan. Most of all always loved Dime for being a decent man. I even have/had friends who knew him and was left counceling all of them. So yes, it hit me a little more close to home and that adds to my anger.

# Jan 28, 2008 @ 12:02 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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28. Twitchybassist writes:

Phil is an a$$hole. Not saying I hate the guy but he is an a$$hole. What more can you say. There will always be bad blood between what remains of Pantera. And yes, unfortunatly for Phil, you never realize what you had until its gone which is Vinnie Paul's friendship as well as the life of Dime. I do think that Phil said those horrible things about Dime and I think he realized later on how inane and stupid his petty argument with the Abbott bros. was. I just hope that the feud between Phil and Vinnie Paul never overshadows either Dime or what Pantera has done for everything that is metal.

Rest in peace Dimebag and the others who died on Dec. 8th '04.

# Jan 28, 2008 @ 12:23 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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29. Red_Chord writes:

I understand what you say Kalis but what I am saying is that until this feud is put behind us, there will always be a shadow over Dime's memory, mostly about all the fans and his family remembering him peacefully and cherishing the good moments. Until then, I think that yes, Phil might have been a resident d*** head, but every time we are full of anger and we are sour, we forget to just pay respects to a great guitar player, a great band mate and a super human being.

# Jan 28, 2008 @ 7:46 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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30. GOD writes:

Panteradude, You are one of the most worthless human beings I have ever heard of....If I new who you were, I would not hesitate to f***ing slaughter you......and there would be no remorse...There is no need for you on this planet....I f***ing hate pretentous rednecks, (That for sure is an oxymoron)......Stoners f***ing suck, even more so ones that constantly feel the need to remind us that they smoke....You are not a baddass, you are an inbred moron hick....F U C K everything you stand for and believe...your words dont mean anything, and your posts are just your way of getting attention....Well, here it is....F U C K YOU PANTERADUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

# Jan 28, 2008 @ 11:34 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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31. GOD writes:

Find me PanteraDude....Im staying at, 3962 Garnet St, Boise ID, Off of west State St...By Veterans parkway...I hate you so much....

# Jan 28, 2008 @ 11:58 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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32. Kalis_wrath writes:

O-O *LMAO* GOD, he wont even try to come get you. He is way too much a p***y. He is a supposed stoner too so he is fat and lazy.
Red, I know. Phil just needs to get out of the picture. Then the true healing can start for everyone.

# Jan 28, 2008 @ 12:55 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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33. brandedcfh420 writes:

GOD writes:
Find me PanteraDude....Im staying at, 3962 Garnet St, Boise ID, Off of west State St...By Veterans parkway...I hate you so much....

i googled the address and its a real one...wow, go get some panteradudette!!!!

# Jan 28, 2008 @ 1:04 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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34. Kalis_wrath writes:

I want video footage GOD! I would love to watch Panteradude get his arse beaten. Would even pay to watch it!

# Jan 28, 2008 @ 1:27 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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35. GOD writes:

maybe I will post footage....But he isnt going to come

# Jan 28, 2008 @ 1:32 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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36. Southern writes:

Now listening: Atheist- Unquestionable Presence

# Jan 28, 2008 @ 1:46 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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37. txmetalhead writes:

I also get very emotional about this issue. I am 100% in agreement with branded...this sh** just needs to go away. All this bickering between Rita/Vinnie and Phil/Lachman is very unprofessional. I also took heavy offense to Vinnie referring to fans as sheep...what that fukk brought that on? I have complete respect for Vinnie Paul and his accomplishments, but that statement is just fukked up, man. I also agree that DOWN is badass, and quite possibly the best, live band I have ever seen. Phil has his own personal demons to contend with, why must the media continue to criticize him, and bring back old painful memories? At least Phil tells you what he truly means - he doesn't sugarcoat sh**....the master of all lies...give me a break. Vinnie Paul is not GOD...he is very talented, but he is not God. He needs to let the hatred pass, so he can truly mourn the death of Dime.

# Jan 28, 2008 @ 3:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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38. txmetalhead writes:

I would not stop listening to a band because I hate one of the band members. That is just me. Down makes really good music, and it is not just Phil Aselmo in the band. I met the vocalist for Crowbar at a show, and he is a nice guy. I had a hell of a time at the Down show, and I repeat, Down is one of the best bands I have ever seen. Phil made mistakes - he was also interviewed in Revolver - and he fully accepts that he screwed up...but I would know that because I am one of Phil's "sheep"....hah - whatever. Perhaps fans who really want to know Phil's side of the story - go pick up that Revolver magazine...it was very good.

# Jan 28, 2008 @ 3:36 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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39. Kalis_wrath writes:

GOD I hope he does come to you. He needs an a$$ kicking. It may wake him the f*** up!
Txmetalhead, who says Rita has to be profesional about anything? She was Dimes woman, not a musician. She has every right to say whatever she wants and be as emotional as she wants/needs. Like Deathbringer said she is just answering questions. I agree that its not right for Vinnie to attack the fans.

# Jan 28, 2008 @ 5:00 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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40. Red_Chord writes:

Kalis, I don't think that Phil will live a very long life, he's too f***ed up. He's already brain dead.

# Jan 28, 2008 @ 5:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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41. deathhead writes:

im pretty sure both sides were talkin sh**,before dime died.so why is phil the only bad guy?

# Jan 28, 2008 @ 6:16 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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42. Red_Chord writes:

Cause he's a d***

# Jan 28, 2008 @ 7:41 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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43. BLACKDOG writes:

GET OVER IT?!?

That's kind of incensitive.The fact of the matter is Phil saide some pretty terrible thing's publicly.He's a d*** the end.I don't pity him & I certainly don't blame Vinnie or Rita.

R.I.P Dime......

We miss you brother.

Also Guitar Player has an interview this month.Haven't picked it up yet.But I will. BELIEVE THAT !!!!

# Jan 28, 2008 @ 8:02 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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44. Kalis_wrath writes:

O.k. Due to the fact this subject is kinda makeing me angry and deppressd will not comment further. The wounds are still fresh and maybe in a few years will be o.k with it, but for now am not. I love Dime and hope his soul rests easier when this whole fight is over. I did have a dream where I think he came to me and oddly enough was at a computer actually crying. I could not read what was on the screen, but he looked at me and asked me "why?" This was shortly after his death. Rest in peace Dime. I hope you guys understand and dont think I am crazy.

# Jan 28, 2008 @ 8:32 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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45. O-Matron writes:

what?

# Jan 28, 2008 @ 8:52 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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46. SNAKE writes:

WITH ALL THE PAIN IN MY LIFE, I CAN'T START TO THINK ABOUT THE MEMORIES THAN BURN IN BIG VIN'S HEAD, HIS BROTHER WAS KILLED ON STAGE, DOING WHAT HE DID BEST, SO HE COULD HAVE A LIFE, BUT THEN CAME A DUMBASS MONKEY F*CKING DIPSH*T NAMED NATHAN GALE, AND SHOOTS HIM, AT LEAST DIME GOT SOME VENGENCE AMONG THE GRAVE, CAUSE THEN A COP, (PEOPLE I DON'T TRUST, FOR VARIOUS REASONS) KILLS THE MURDER, HEY, I MAY HATE COPS, BUT I TAKE MY HAT OFF TO THAT COP, AND LONG LIVE DIMEBAG, NOW BACK TO VIN AND PHIL, SINCE I DON'T WANT TO MAKE EITHER, PHIL OR ANSELMO PARTY MAD, I HAVE RESPECT FOR YOU BELIEFS, BUT THE FACT IS WHAT VIN SAID ABOUT PHIL, IS TRUE, HE'S A LIAR, THE FANS SAY HE'S A D*CK, SO I THINK THAT HE'S AN A**HOLE, HE EVEN MADE THREATS TO DIMEBAG, IF ANYONE BROKE UP PANTERA IT'S PHIL, A HERION JUNKIE, AND A BURNOUT, WEED AIN'T BAD, BUT HARD DRUGS LIKE HERION, WILL MESS YOU UP, IF IT WON'T FOR PHIL, THE WHOLE DISASTER ON DEC OF 2004 WOULD'NT HAVE HAPPENED, PERSONALLY IF ANYONE SHOULD HAVE GOT SHOT IT SHOULD'VE BEEN PHIL, SINCE MOST PEOPLE KNOW HE'S A D*CK, HE DID SOME FOR THE METAL COMMUNITY, BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE-UP FOR ALL THE TIMES HE'S BEEN A D*CK AND A BURNOUT, AND EVEN ALL THE TIME HE HURT SOMEONE EMOTIONALLY OR PSYICHICALLY, ME I WISH EVERYONE COULD GET ALONG, UNFORTUNATELY THAT WON'T HAPPEN AND MY OPINION IS PHIL WILL NEVER HAVE VIN'S TRUST, OR ANYONE ASSOCIATED WITH DIMEBAG, BETRAYIAL HURTS, I KNOW, I'VE BEEN BACKSTABBED, SO MANY TIMES IT'S, UNFAIR, SO I DO KNOW THAT PHIL IS A D*CK, AND IF I WAS VINNIE I WOULD WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH PHIL, I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE DOING DRUGS, BUT BEING AN A**HOLE AND A D*CK, JUST DON'T CUT IT, SO I WILL NOT TRUST PHIL, AND I QUOTE, REST IN PIECE DIMEBAG, YOUR FINE NOW, YOUR ARE UP THEIR WITH JESUS NOW, SO ANYWAY DIMEBAG, WHEN MY TIME COMES I'LL BE THERE BUDDY, REST IN PEACE MY FRIEND

# Jan 29, 2008 @ 5:56 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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47. Red_Chord writes:

I miss this guy, seriously ! He should be playing right now and I would go : woah !

# Jan 29, 2008 @ 8:00 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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48. fuck off writes:

I will try and keep this as short as I can.

First of all: Pantera suck. Their best album is Power Metal. After that all they did was rip off the band Exhorder (who, by the way, were much better than Pantera could ever have been). They are not real thrash, they f***ing blow. Period. Anyone who knows anything about metal would know this. Most of the pansy-ass-fa**ot-wannabe-metalheads (i.e. Pantera/modern-day-Slayer fans) know *nothing* about metal. They think Pantera (or modern-day-slayer) are the heaviest bands ever. You're idiots. Die. There and so many bands that are better/heavier than Pantera and you know none of them. Learn something about the f***ing genre of music before you claim to be a fan of said genre, dipsh**. So you can all f*** off and die.

Second: Phil was the worst of all members of Pantera. No argument there. He's a worthless c***sucker. Dimebag Darrell was not the only bandmate he stabbed in the back. I have heard stories of some other bands he was in.

Third: Dimebag was a pretty good guitarist. BUT, since he died all you little Pantera fanboys seem to have bumped his status to guitar god. Whjich he was not. You're idiots. Just because he died under the tragic circumstances that he did, doesn't increase his skill level. That's not how it works. Pantera are/were way overrated. Now that he died as he did, Dimebag is way overrated as a guitarist. Mourn his loss, fine. Don't make him out to be 6 times better than he ever was. No surprise that people do this however. Any genre of music is plagued by the same problem of making someone out to be so much better after they die than they actually were. (Kurt Cobain anyone?)

Last: have fun with your completely mispelled/grammatically incorrect reactions to my post. I am sure this post will be followed by the likes of "You dumb f***! Pantera r00000lzzzz and I would kic ur azz if I ever saw you!" I am sure you would, tiger. Nobody is afraid of a computer screen. Die.

# Feb 5, 2008 @ 11:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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49. C writes:

well I agree on - Phil was the worst of all members of Pantera. No argument there. He's a worthless c***sucker
Thats true.

# Feb 6, 2008 @ 7:40 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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50. to f*ck off writes:

All I have to say is that is why Exhorder is so famous right. Also how come cowboys fro hell came out before slaughter in the vatican? Im not saying Exhorder isnt great. Im just saying the are pantera without the talent.

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51. pacifront83 writes:

ye go f*** yourself (f*** off) u f***ing little kid, keep reading wikipedia u pile of cum. Pantera or slayer isnt real metal what the f*** do you know kid. And f*** exhorder their are plenty of metal bands that sound similar thats a part of music u f***ing poser. Just because u stoped listening to "modern" day metalcore and are now one of those douche bag thrash kids dont pretend to know anything u f***ing p***y. And Phil was the best member of Pantera period, without Phil's voice and personality Pantera wouldnt have been sh**, when he came on board they blew Exhorder out their f***ing asses.

# Feb 7, 2008 @ 6:38 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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52. txmetalhead writes:

Every heard of something called Redemption? Even Phil has the right to redemption. We all make mistakes, even Dimebag. I love the guy's music-amazing talent, but I didn't know him personally, and never will, sadly. All I know about Dimebag is what I see about him in interviews..and he seemed like a fukin' cool guy who really loved his fans. For Vinne to make some stupid remark about the fans being sheep is completely and utterly disrespectful - to Dime and to the metal community. I understand, though, that Vinnie is only human, as well. We always say things we regret when we are angry or hurt. Perhaps if I knew Dime personally - I would be completely heart-broken and depressed. Nevertheless, I will continue to listen to Damage plan and Down....because I love metal, and both Phil and Dime are incredible musicians. I also agree that Phil was part of the success that Pantera achieved. Thank you for your respectful disagreements, and please respect my feelings, as well.

# Feb 7, 2008 @ 7:01 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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53. Don lopez writes:

This sh** is old how long have you guys been talking about this.Hellyeah cd sucks Down cd kicks ass.

# Feb 7, 2008 @ 9:30 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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54. fuck off writes:

ah I just had to return to read the replies. First, by release date the full length Slaughter in The Vatican did, indeed, come out after Cowboys..., however, Exhorder were playing the style for 4 years before that (back when Dimebag was Diamond and wearing makeup) [note: I have nothing against glam, actually, just pointing out their style adopted in 1990 was heavily taken from a band who had been doing it for half a decade already].

Now, Pacifront83: My point about Pantera/modern-day-Slayer (note the distinction of "modern day") is that they are both completely overrated and many people swear by the two bands thinking they are the very definition of metal.

Second, Yes many bands do borrow sound, it is hard to be original these days. The point about Exhorder is they had a rather unique thrash sound. Listen to Exhorder then listen to Pantera and they share that distinct sound. Now find one single band with that same "thing" in their sound.

And, actually I never listened to any mallcore, metalcore or whatever else you would like to assume. I expressed opinions you don't like so you trash me specifically to try and downplay what I said. I have been listening to real metal (from thrash to black to death to traditional, etc.) for near 20 years. I will also put my knowledge of metal and it's history up against you, or anyone for that matter, any day of the week.

Now on to your comments about Phil. Yes without him & his voice they would not have been what they were: overrated-wanna-appear-badass-and-hardcore. That "ideology" radiates from him and came out through their music just making the rest of the band look bad when connected to Phil (look bad from the perspective of people who know the band strictly from music, not personal friends).

As far as: "they blew Exhorder out their f***ing asses"....regarding popularity this is correct. Pantera became one of those "mall metal" bands. Whether they were more popular than Exhorder is irrelevant. Quality music does not equal success. If you could listen to Pantera and Exhorder without bias (if you have that ability) then I challenge you to find a single Pantera album that compares quality wise to Exhorder. Naturally this "quality" can be considered a matter of opinion. However, anyone I have ever introduced Exhorder to and they have objectively listened and compared the two have always gone for Exhorder.

Is it Pantera's fault that Exhorder never became famous or well known? Of course not. There is a fine line between ripping a band off and taking inspiration. If a new band came out today and had those same distinct qualities that Pantera shared with Exhorder then they would be confronted with the question about "sounding like Pantera" in every interview they ever did. Because Pantera are famous. And you know what? Die hard Pantera fans, while some would probably embrace said new band, would trash them for being unoriginal and ripping off Pantera. Yet I am a bad guy for saying Pantera ripped off (blatantly) Exhorder. Imagine that.

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55. Yngiwea writes:

Dime was an amazing guitarist, and yes he was bumped up the a "Guitar god" after he died, it was just a shame it took people up til then to notice just how amazing he was.
Phil Anselmo is pretty much being blamed for Dime's death, which is total sh**. He wasnt the one that pulled the damn trigger, yeah he had issues with Dime, but it wasn't his fault at all that Dime was murdered.
Vin doesn't have to move on, or make up with Phil, i sure as hell know I wouldn't, but some peeple just don't get the facts that te murder WAS NOT PHILS FAULT.

Damn. Get a grip people. Enjoy the damn music. It's all we got left.

# Feb 8, 2008 @ 11:13 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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56. DIMEBAG4EVER writes:

R.I.P DIME.I hope your still rocking 4 GOD man love u DIME.

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57. al writes:

red_chord go f*** your self

# Feb 13, 2008 @ 1:02 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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58. killkillkill6661 writes:

GOD DAMN U GUYS ARE F***ING IDIOTS

R.I.P DIMEBAG

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59. ZT writes:

f*** Off, no one cares what you think. I've heard the Exhorder/Pantera bullsh** time and time again. NO ONE CARES WHO CAME FIRST.

# Feb 22, 2008 @ 9:29 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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60. southern slumlord writes:

This is a disgrace....

R.I.P. PANTERA

Now listening - Vomit Remnants - Putrefying Dead Flesh

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